Author Topic: Differentiate Vinnie Colaiuta and Dave Weckl? (Read 9200 times)

cymor · « **on:** July 02, 2007, 07:42:46 PM »

Anu po ba pagkakaiba nila..

sorry po sa noob question...wah! pareho ata cla ng style ehh..nung napanood ko ung solo sa tribute nila kay Buddy Rich's Memorial with Steve Gadd....

Halos ung solos nila same....si Steve Gadd lng tlaga na-iba..

Am I right? correct me if I'm wrong...Thanks po!

harugrugrug · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2007, 01:03:46 AM »

vinnie is known for his polyrhythm things pag solohan..
while weckl loves to hit eveything and trilet fill ins
vinnie is known to be a verstile studio drummer for gospel to megadeth
while weckl is and innovator of contemporary jazz...
personally.. Vinnie is the best....

cymor · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2007, 04:31:46 PM »

Quote from: harugrugrug on July 03, 2007, 01:03:46 AM

vinnie is known for his polyrhythm things pag solohan..
while weckl loves to hit eveything and trilet fill ins
vinnie is known to be a verstile studio drummer for gospel to megadeth
while weckl is and innovator of contemporary jazz...
personally.. Vinnie is the best....

wow!~ thanks po sir Alvin! haha...cguro di ko lng nahalata ung pagkakaiba..kasi binase ko clang dalawa dun sa bata-bata pa cla...haha!

intake · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2007, 04:41:10 PM »

differentiate?

name
age
may glasses si vinnie si dave wala
mas macho si dave
they have different endorsements
they have different setups
vinnie played for zappa, herbie, karizma.. dave did not

for me...vinnie has more "oomph"..gets?

ushuaia · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2007, 08:58:43 PM »

for me..

weckl=skilled/more on hard work/i can feel his pulse is more on sixteenth note feel

vinnie=gifted/more on quarter note pulse

both not just great drummers,but great musicians!

drumster · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2007, 01:40:28 AM »

Wanna get to know Vinnie and Dave more? Visit their official websites!

Vinnie Colaiuta's Official Website --- http://www.vinniecolaiuta.com/

Check out the discography page. It's as mind-boggling as his drumming. Don't forget to visit the Q&A portion too. Vinnie answers questions convincingly (by the way, at the Q&A, a number of top pro drummers also asked questions to Vinnie).

Dave Weckl's Official Website --- http://www.daveweckl.com/

Lots of nice multimedia stuff here, and details about Dave's equipment. Plenty of info in this website.

starfugger · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2007, 07:33:15 AM »

hmm... hindi naman ako vinnie and dave afficionado pero eto lang first impressions ko:

dave weckl - flashy! he does this frontman type thing. bida sya. jaw dropping.

vinnie collaiuta - intelligent, sensible

not because of the glasses but because his grooves, fills, and over all feel is so subtly ONE with the music. ang sarap pakinggan

toybitz · « **Reply #7 on:** October 01, 2007, 04:05:17 PM »

Quote from: cymor on July 02, 2007, 07:42:46 PM

Anu po ba pagkakaiba nila.. sorry po sa noob question...wah! pareho ata cla ng style ehh..nung napanood ko ung solo sa tribute nila kay Buddy Rich's Memorial with Steve Gadd....

Halos ung solos nila same....si Steve Gadd lng tlaga na-iba..

Am I right? correct me if I'm wrong...Thanks po!

RE: BRMC

Accompaniment: Vinnie swings better in a big band scenario.

Movement: mas may economy si Vinnie

Solos: Mas rock yun feel ni Vinnie. and yun 16 note fills niya with alternating right hand and foot, its amazingly clean and fast.

I think Bro yun napansin mong similarity is...Dave and Vinnie play (or can) fusion.

Ralph_Petrucci · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2007, 04:40:17 PM »

vinnie plays with the toms more and kita mo ung control nia sa sticks.

dave shows off his skill in mixing cymbals and cymbal variety.

and tama,

the similarity is,

they can both play fusion. . .

@cymor. . .

musta ang new drummer ng sticker happy?

3tgte27 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2007, 03:29:21 AM »

Here's my opinion

Vinnie can play in any situation with anybody and make the music sound good.
He has great feel and sense of time.

Dave he has great chops technique..........................

No feel

I saw him with his Band and The Chick Corea Electric band last year and he played all his chops like a drum machine no interaction with fellow musicians, it's like he just played his part like a machine. On another note he's probablly one of the best drummers of our time.

toybitz · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2007, 03:09:53 PM »

Quote from: 3tgte27 on October 02, 2007, 03:29:21 AM

Here's my opinion
Dave he has great chops technique.......................... No feel I saw him with his Band and The Chick Corea Electric band last year and he played all his chops like a drum machine no interaction with fellow musicians, it's like he just played his part like a machine. On another note he's probablly one of the best drummers of our time.

that's what I thought about him back in the 80s...

but, the "new" Weckl to me is all about technique, tone, musicality and feel. but, that's just me.

but re: "feel" Dave vs Vinnie...iba talaga is Vinnie eh. he can really express it out while doing technical and "incomprehensible" patterns

bloodshedd · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2007, 11:43:25 AM »

Dave Weckl... Makina toh... D ako drummer pero pag sya ang pumapalo eh alam mong nandun yung drummer and he is doing something...

Vinnie... Tatang na toh! Sa playing niya eh nakikita yung power ng understatement. He can also bust your nuts technically but me human feel parin...

Magkaiba talaga yung ginagawa nila...

FINGERZAP · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2007, 05:55:31 PM »

Pareho magaling pero mas taste ko yung mga chops ni Weckl. Saka clockwork precision, para syang machine, grabe!

marvinq · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2007, 02:12:58 PM »

Both drummers have developed their own unique sound, and in my book, any musician who's able to do that earns my respect. And I'm not just talking about having a unique sound for it's own sake (I've encountered a few musicians who insist on doing something their way, because it's 'their sound', with very little regard (if at all) for the material in question), but being able to achieve that sound through diligence, and real musical situations (as opposed on insisting to play a song in 11/16 when it'll work very well in 4/4).

I'd be very honored to one day be able to play side by side any of them...

A few weeks ago I got to see Dave Weckl in action. It was a gig with Oz Noy, and he was only able to rehearse with the band the day before. He was reading charts for almost the entire duration of the gig, but his playing was so full of integrity that one couldn't really tell that he wasn't the drummer who played regularly for Oz. He played as brilliantly as if he was playing alongside people with whom he played for a long time.

Vinnie's got my vote too. His versatility, technique and musicianship is very admireable. I only got to see him play live when he played for Sting at the ULTRA. Definitely kick-ass!

intake · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2007, 11:59:51 AM »

you mean ULTRA there in the Philppines?

marvinq · « **Reply #15 on:** November 01, 2007, 02:12:47 PM »

yes. in the mid 90's.

cs_mapper · « **Reply #16 on:** November 02, 2007, 01:10:18 PM »

weckl became famous and also rediculed dahil sa techinically precise spot on playing nya.

vinnie can be as precise and technicall as he wants to but still sounds human and totally flexible/adaptable to all types of music and it really means from all extreme spectrums.

tsaka mas cute tignan mag drums si vinnie hehe.

legnacilyz · « **Reply #17 on:** November 02, 2007, 03:51:07 PM »

uncomparable..

marvinq · « **Reply #18 on:** November 02, 2007, 03:54:36 PM »

exactly.

bloodshedd · « **Reply #19 on:** November 03, 2007, 01:05:37 AM »

Ganito na lang siguro....

Si Vinnie ay si Vinnie!
Si Dave ay si Dave!
Ayuz!

jeff_proX40 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2007, 04:11:41 AM »

I like Dave kz napaka inovative nya. all back to the basic then improving it.hehehe

toybitz · « **Reply #21 on:** November 04, 2007, 01:48:41 AM »

I still humbly think they both are comparable instead of being incomparable since they both played under some similar bands or artists like Chick Corea, John Patitucci, Chaka Khan, Buddy Rich Band...etc.

black_panther · « **Reply #22 on:** November 08, 2007, 09:56:48 AM »

mas tropa at mas close ko si dave weckl kesa kay vinnie hehehe....

marvinq · « **Reply #23 on:** November 08, 2007, 10:16:16 AM »

Quote from: black_panther on November 08, 2007, 09:56:48 AM

mas tropa at mas close ko si dave weckl kesa kay vinnie hehehe....

talaga? eh, bakit hindi ka niya nabanggit sa akin nung nagkita kami? hehe.

black_panther · « **Reply #24 on:** November 08, 2007, 10:25:16 AM »

uy astig yan sir hehehe

..cheers sir marvin

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Author Topic: Differentiate Vinnie Colaiuta and Dave Weckl? (Read 9200 times)