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I had/am having formal drum lessons and Im happy with it
I had formal lessons but prefer to be self taught now
I am self taught and I am happy with it
I am self taught but is considering formal lessons

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Offline harugrugrug

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Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2008, 11:04:22 PM »
Formal lessons po ako... una napilitan pero nahanapan ng kiliti..
ayun.. naging teacher ko si Roy ng Mutiny na ngayon ay nakay Miguel Escueta na..
nakakabaliw kasi kaliwete siya at ako right handed so palipat lipat nake ng kit pag may dedemonstrate siya.. it's better to have formal lessons to learn notes and learn executions of rudiments.. basta good teacher dapat.. nagturo din ako at mahirap pala magturo.. pero nasa satin yan kung gusto natin matuto..

natuwa ako kay migs(intake).. former student ko.. he was first self taught tapos nag lesson ng formal.. una.. lagapak talaga.. from posture at ayaw matuto magbasa..
tinetenga niya ang turo ko.. so i urge you to "TAKE TIME READING AND UNDERSTANDING NOTES" kasi malaki benefit yan.. pag feel mo kaya mo na mag isa e books ang isang essential na makakatulong sayo..

sunod nung dumalaw si MIgz.. nagulat ako.. sobrang lake ng inimprove niya..
nagbabasa na ng notes at kung anu anu pa.. natuwa ako.. so nasa drummer talaga ang room ng development niya.. so just take formal lessons from a good teacher when you have a good ground.. you can study on your own..
ako.. gusto ko pa matuto..
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2008, 12:38:41 AM »
self taught ako. pero gusto ko mglesson kasi marami pa kelangan iimprove sken at pra magabayan ako.  :-D

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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2008, 12:43:54 AM »
hehe nabuhay ulet yung thread!!!

Self-taught pa rin with matching sangkatutak na drum EB's...
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2008, 01:29:35 AM »
self taught is better here in baguio...  :-)

masyado ng outdated mga instructors dito. they still cling to the mike portnoy era.




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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2008, 04:15:36 AM »
I didn't have any formal instruction to start out drumming and I sure wish I had. Imho, drumming (as is music) should ideally be approached as a science then as an art. Science muna dapat to learn the fundamentals, that is, drum notation, rudiments, etc. Art comes eventually when you're already able to express yourself thru different styles and applications. Feeling ko mas solid ang application kapag solid ang foundation. Iba pa rin talaga kapag may formal training.


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« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2008, 10:04:57 AM »
Pag sa mga Videos ba sa youtube na tuto ung drummer anu un??self taught o formal lessons??? kasi dun ako natututo ng mga basics, note reading, ung mga theory echuvacheness......tska konting advance lessons......anung category un mga sir??
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Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2008, 11:29:35 AM »
Pag sa mga Videos ba sa youtube na tuto ung drummer anu un??self taught o formal lessons??? kasi dun ako natututo ng mga basics, note reading, ung mga theory echuvacheness......tska konting advance lessons......anung category un mga sir??

Self taught. :wink:
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Offline stiknstone

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« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2008, 02:19:54 PM »
I'll go for self taught..although my brother taught me some basic drumming.But i myself continue researching for drums lessons and rudiments to improve my drumming skills. :-)

Offline el Brutal

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« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2008, 03:11:08 PM »
nagformal lessons fo a while... then naging bahala na si batman... i shifted learning from videos na lang.. walang gastos sa youtube eh.

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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2008, 11:05:26 PM »
i had formal lessons when i was young, then natuto ng konti (mabilis natuto) tapos nagfeeling kaya hininto na yung lessons. nagdrums magisa, ginaya ang OPM bands like bamboo and hale.

nag-aral, naging busy, then naSTUCK na sa style, naging stagnant yung palo ko. ang pangit solid.

then nagkaron ng time, advice sakin ng kapatid kong sick dude sa gitara, mag cover kasi ka din ng foreign... so yun, sinunod ko. and nakatulong solid. SUPER i grew as a drummer on my own although i still honestly think that everybody needs formal lessons before learning by themselves.

like in kickboxing, we have to learn the basics first so that when we are going to teach ourselves, we sort of already have had developed our muscle memory.

so formal lessons then your on your own on how you are going to maiximize what you've learned during your formal lessons.

PS: please try to learn from different drummers of different genres.. trust me. it will help you THAT MUCH. swear.
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Offline NATSBRATS

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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2009, 01:54:21 PM »
i was self taught :). and happy with it..
i think that self taught drummers are more versatile..
since they depend more on raw skill and practice more than
notes and arent limited to several beats.. they learn from watching
drummers and learn a lot from advice.. i dont have a drumset and
ddnt take formal lessons.. sticks and pillows lang :))..



just stick and pillows.... how about your foot work? :mrgreen:

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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2009, 05:35:36 PM »
kung ilalagay sa percentage, 80%- self-taught 20%- formal.. sandali lang kasi akong nag aral sa teacher ko.. sariling sikap at tyaga na lang kasi mahal din yung paturo..
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2009, 11:03:33 PM »
Ako self taught. tinuruan lng ng sobrang basic na tug pak tug tug pak tapos ako na nag aral mag isa. Una shadow drumming lng hehehe wla pang kit eh. Tapos nung nag ka kit ayun dun na natuto pati sa mga vids sa youtube. PEro Gusto ko pa rin mag paturo sa mga pro para dag dag kaalaman.  :-D

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« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2009, 11:12:18 PM »
self taught. videos lang ang source ko ng education.
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« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2009, 12:46:44 AM »

i think formal lessons instructors are rip-off artists just because of the fact that in my experience, all of them charge BY THE HOUR...

i am not saying they are cheating on you or anything, but IMO, drumming is A LOT about muscle memory. say that beat in Rosanna, while your brain may get that concept of triplet shuffle, your muscle memory doesn't. so what you do is pressure your self to learn the songs at the normal tempo (which of course is fast for your virgin drum muscles), and you end up being a sloppy drummer.

same thing with double pedals... you know the bass drum goes dit-dah-dit-dah sixteen beat while you hit the snare on the 2 and 4 ... your brain knows that but your muscle memory would take weeks to adjust to that, and by that time, your instructor had robbed thousands of pesos off you from one BASIC concept that even your kapitbahay drummer knows about.

i am just so happy that nowadays there are drum forums and youtubes, and all of these "beginner" instructors arent ripping-off kids as much.

right now, im learning drums and loading muscle memory patterns in me. i watch a lot of youtube and pick up lots of gear advice from here (techniques are better seen than read)... and im not being ripped off.

ive been to  different instructors both with bass and guitar, and i realized none of what they taught stuck.

after paying 3,000 pesos worth of bass lessons, i know how to do some parts of rio funk and slap a pattern in G. for 3,000 pesos, i can pay someone to record 5 slap patterns or well, id just buy two DVDs and just be sure i have a player that can slow mo it.

IMO, you should get instructors when your muscle memory is more than adequate to handle patterns at a snap. that is so you will be learning concepts, theories and opinions. if that instructor is good, he will transform the way you approach the instrument... if he is like one of those talented instructors who capitalize on their skill, you'd end up not learning anything and be left wondering "how did he do that?"

and id also appreciate it that an instructor knows [gooey brown stuff] about gear. with my bass experience, my instructor doesnt even know the pedals in my board, and couldnt even have basic conversation with me.

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« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2009, 01:56:16 AM »
ako self taught lang, wala pera pang formal since sariling gastos ko yung drums...

hirap din mag self taught dahil nga "you're on your own". sariling program ng pag-aaral din kailangan at mas mabagal ang headstart ng progress mo kesa sa may instructor.

pero its all good...."if you want it, you get it"
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« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2009, 09:28:15 AM »
self taught.
but would it be better kung may ngturo sa atin from A to Z rather than go zigzag off no direction?

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« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2009, 12:20:26 PM »
I always pray na magkakaroon ako ng formal lesson.
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« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2009, 03:19:05 PM »
^^^same here sigh*
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2009, 09:55:45 AM »
im a sef taught drummer din mga bro, big help talaga ang youtube and nag start uli ako sa basic exercise then intermediate and now im in advance lesson na. pero laking tulong din yung binigay ng brother ko na play drums today level 1 book, notation to nagtanong tanong lang ako sa mga marunong bumasa at ayun, nakakaintindi na rin dun ko rin natutunan ang syncopation, jazz, triplet blues at marami pang iba, gusto ko nga sana maka experience magturo eh ask ko lang kayo bro, pwede ba yun kahit wala ako certificate ng drum instructor?

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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2009, 10:02:45 PM »
i am gifted! my talent is a gift. The first time i held the sticks i played a groove already haha!

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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2009, 11:18:49 PM »
self taught.
but would it be better kung may ngturo sa atin from A to Z rather than go zigzag off no direction?
yes. (for me at least. depende sa tao e. but having lessons made everything better for me. from note reading, to drumming vocabulary, to finding my own style/groove. but for some people, being self taught is the way to go. i say "whichever works for you, then great.")
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« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2009, 09:09:08 PM »
taking lessons from different drummers worked for me, i am proud student of sir jun regalado :wink:..this year my goal is to invest more on education :wink:....cheers also to antony dio of k/24/7 and loubert vidal of eternal now who were once my drum teacher :wink:
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« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2009, 11:27:45 AM »
I'm also self taught drummer. I started to learn drums while I was in HS in Siena and until now self study lang but i'm also planning to enroll also with Sir. Jun or Mar maybe this year (if my schedule permits me).Having a teacher will help a lot specially if you want to learn other techniques dahil mga experienced na ang teacher. :D

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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2009, 04:45:42 AM »
Self taught here.

Started playing drums at the age of 10 (grade 5) back in OLOPSC. I was just watching a close friend of mine play drums, and that's where my interest in drumming had started.

That friend of mine BTW is Michael Ambas current drummer of the band UNEVEN

Ever since that day until 2004 I have only learned the basics of drumming. Never knew exactly all those vocabulary and stuff like that. Until DT was introduced to me in 2002 and I took notice, but thought that DT was too hard and had studied at the time. Again around the end of 2004 - 2005 me and my former band GPA had decided to change musical styles, namely from alternative rock to metal to progressive metal. That's when my 4 year progression started.
I was so interested in it I had already learned and seen some of the actual lessons I really needed. 

I don't think I'll be needing formal lessons anyway since the key part that I'm only missing is reading the notes from all paper in actual notes. Just that. I can live without it. hehe.