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Offline trewzd

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how to eliminate rust
« on: August 12, 2007, 04:14:33 PM »
pano po ba matangal yung mga kalawang na kumakapit sa mga PU at sa iba pa????


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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 07:28:08 PM »
ako nahihirapan magtanggal ng kalawang kaya di ko na pinapakeelaman...  :-D

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2007, 10:51:27 AM »
liha?  :?

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2007, 11:01:47 AM »
pano po ba matangal yung mga kalawang na kumakapit sa mga PU at sa iba pa????

don't use chemical like wd40. it will soften the insulation on the pickup wires.

number 32 for seymour duncan's Q&A section

31. Why do the magnets in my pickup rust?
A typical Alnico magnet used in the majority of guitar pickups consists of several different alloys. Aluminum, Nickel, Cobalt, Copper, Silicon, Titanium and Iron. With the presence of Iron, a magnet can rust due to moisture in a case, high humidity in the air and most likely the sweat coming from your hands. Moisture contacts the pole piece and can cause it to rust. Most companies do not plate the Alnico pole pieces in their pickups. Fender plates their Cunife magnet pole piece used in their guitar and bass humbuckers. Gibson plated the magnets on their rectangular adjustable Alnico Pickups, used on the 56 (neck position) Les Paul Custom . Nickel, Gold or Chrome plating helps reduce the oxidation (rust) unless the plating is worn off from extensive playing. Rusting of the poles is why many Vintage Pickups stop working. The rust continues into the bobbin where the coil is wound, breaks down the insulation until the copper magnet wire becomes exposed and shorts out then there's no reading in the coil To help prevent this in single coils it is best to keep your instrument's case dry especially in hot humid areas. Try to keep your guitar in cool areas (not in hot car trunks) so the case doesn't sweat. It's amazing how much moisture your case can absorb. Wipe down the strings and pickups after playing with a dry cloth. I've put my guitar case in a room with a dehumidifier to take the mosture out. Always keep your case closed when rehearsing. There are special potting processes that can help keep your pickup working longer. If you have specific questions you can write me. I'd be glad to help.
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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2007, 11:05:38 AM »
ako din di rin ako marunung magtanggal kaya di ko na ginagalaw =)


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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2007, 11:07:16 AM »
so..does seymour duncan have their pickups plated?

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2007, 02:06:09 PM »
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how to eliminate rust
......calling the attention of Agent WD40!

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2007, 03:12:34 PM »
......calling the attention of Agent WD40!
wag nga daw gamitan ng WD40

don't use chemical like wd40. it will soften the insulation on the pickup wires.

number 32 for seymour duncan's Q&A section

31. Why do the magnets in my pickup rust?
A typical Alnico magnet used in the majority of guitar pickups consists of several different alloys. Aluminum, Nickel, Cobalt, Copper, Silicon, Titanium and Iron. With the presence of Iron, a magnet can rust due to moisture in a case, high humidity in the air and most likely the sweat coming from your hands. Moisture contacts the pole piece and can cause it to rust. Most companies do not plate the Alnico pole pieces in their pickups. Fender plates their Cunife magnet pole piece used in their guitar and bass humbuckers. Gibson plated the magnets on their rectangular adjustable Alnico Pickups, used on the 56 (neck position) Les Paul Custom . Nickel, Gold or Chrome plating helps reduce the oxidation (rust) unless the plating is worn off from extensive playing. Rusting of the poles is why many Vintage Pickups stop working. The rust continues into the bobbin where the coil is wound, breaks down the insulation until the copper magnet wire becomes exposed and shorts out then there's no reading in the coil To help prevent this in single coils it is best to keep your instrument's case dry especially in hot humid areas. Try to keep your guitar in cool areas (not in hot car trunks) so the case doesn't sweat. It's amazing how much moisture your case can absorb. Wipe down the strings and pickups after playing with a dry cloth. I've put my guitar case in a room with a dehumidifier to take the mosture out. Always keep your case closed when rehearsing. There are special potting processes that can help keep your pickup working longer. If you have specific questions you can write me. I'd be glad to help.

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2007, 03:25:45 PM »
......calling the attention of Agent WD40!
   sir wag daw gamitin yan sabi ni RANDYMARSH. :-)

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2007, 11:40:16 AM »
wag nga daw gamitan ng WD40


hindi nyo nman papaliguan ng WD40! :lol: gamitan nyo ng cotton buds! Para ma-lessen lang and tumagal ang pole pieces ng pickup!

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2007, 12:25:14 PM »
metal polish

o kaya baking soda(dilute nyo sa water)

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2007, 12:40:49 PM »
hindi nyo nman papaliguan ng WD40! :lol: gamitan nyo ng cotton buds! Para ma-lessen lang and tumagal ang pole pieces ng pickup!
sige good luck na lang sa pick up mo :-D

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2007, 12:47:50 PM »
prevention of rust is the best solution  :-D

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2007, 05:01:33 PM »
mga sir pwede gamitin yung wd40 basta wag mong spray directly sa pickup gumamit kayo ng cotton buds or tela pang apply.

Offline st0mpb0x_bahista

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2007, 05:10:53 PM »
yung sinabi ni sir randy ay yung magiging epekto sa pickups pag nagkaroon "inner coil pole corrosion"  ito yung pagshoshort ng coil sa rusted pole ng pickups kaya nagiging cause ng hindi pagtunog ng pickup. pwede naman gamitin yung wd40 basta wag lang spray directly sa pickup. gumamit lang ng cotton buds or cotton cloth pang apply ng wd40 sa pickups. pwde karin maglagay ng 4 in 1 oil gaya ng mga sewing machine oils pang protect sa kalawang, at pwede rin mag apply ng natural color nail polish para hindi na kalawangin yung pole pieces

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2007, 05:38:53 PM »
have you tride na po ba 2??
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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2007, 08:16:40 PM »
how about sa bridge parts? ok lang ba na i sand ko ung lumang chrome finish para even na ulit ung surface then apply another chrome coating? or mag chip agad un? any advice? ang sagwa kasi tignan.

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2007, 08:30:27 PM »
how about sa bridge parts? ok lang ba na i sand ko ung lumang chrome finish para even na ulit ung surface then apply another chrome coating? or mag chip agad un? any advice? ang sagwa kasi tignan.

bad idea. hindi ko alam kung chrome paint yung dinedescribe mo dude. it's better na disassemble mo yung bridge parts or trem then clean it with wd40. or send mo sa nag chrome plating yung bridge mo. punasan mo nalang yung bridge parts mo ng tuyong basahan pagkatapos mong mag gitara. meron akong friend na laging pinupunasan yung  guitar niya pagkatapos gamitin. i think 7 years old na yung guitar niya pero yung lo-pro bridge sa guitar niya parang bago parin.

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yung sinabi ni sir randy ay yung magiging epekto sa pickups pag nagkaroon "inner coil pole corrosion"  ito yung pagshoshort ng coil sa rusted pole ng pickups kaya nagiging cause ng hindi pagtunog ng pickup. pwede naman gamitin yung wd40 basta wag lang spray directly sa pickup. gumamit lang ng cotton buds or cotton cloth pang apply ng wd40 sa pickups. pwde karin maglagay ng 4 in 1 oil gaya ng mga sewing machine oils pang protect sa kalawang, at pwede rin mag apply ng natural color nail polish para hindi na kalawangin yung pole pieces

yup. wag nyo i-spray directly sa pickups. pwede yung tip lang ng cotton buds. dati palagi kong iniisprayan ng wd40 yung seymour duncan pickup nung isang gitara ko kasi may corrosion na rin sa ibabaw. after a few months the pickup stopped working.

pero dudes pag may nakita kayong signs of rust sa ibabaw ng pole pieces it's possible na meron na rin ganito sa loob. kung hindi nyo ginagamit yung guitar nyo for weeks or months mas maganda itago nyo nalang siya sa hardcase and buy put some silica gel sa case para ma absorb yung moisture. never put leave your guitar in a hot and humid room. humidity ang number one factor and source of rust.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2007, 08:37:29 PM by randymarsh »
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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2013, 01:39:45 PM »
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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2013, 02:17:42 PM »
punas punas lng pag tapos mag-guitar... 8-)

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2013, 02:51:57 PM »
by knowing first what is the cause then you'll know how to prevent and eliminate it...

HUMIDITY is a major contributor FYI

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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2013, 09:19:31 PM »
how to eliminate: metal polish. but in the process, mawala din ang chrome/nickel finish. it looks aged but at least walang rust.

how to prevent: put the guitars inside a huge dry box or dehumidifier box.
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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2013, 10:32:09 PM »
I know one thing get desicants sa mga meds or vitamins and put in your hardcase to prevent molds on our guitars or buy dessicants  :-D
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2013, 11:34:08 AM »
Pwede WD40 basta make sure don't let it sip in sa loob ng pickup. Pole pieces lang din naman yung lilinisin mo eh. I even use WD40 to clean my bridge, strings (except when I use Elixir) and tuning head. Tama si sir MarkV.

Hint: usually kahit sa frequent punas, nagfa-fade din yung chrome plate ng mga bridges, more so pag gold plated. Unless you really want to clean it, then go ahead. Pero yes, mas madaling mag fade ito using WD40.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 11:37:25 AM by tonwins11 »
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Re: how to eliminate rust
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2013, 11:42:01 PM »
maglagay ng desiccant silica gel sa hardcase/gigbag(?) tsaka alaga sa punas(?)  :-D yan lang naman ginagawa ko para iwas kalawang
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