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Re: FreedomTom the German..
« Reply #400 on: February 15, 2009, 01:46:35 PM »
I hope this thread will serve as a warning for everyone.   People who are not aware of his bizarre marketing strategy are fortunate to be aware now and lucky to have the idea on what to expect from this guy.  

Eto mga boys, icebreaker masyado na tayo mainit eh . . .

Eto mga reklamo natin kay Tom

1. Maangas! (Low Gain) -  Iismolin nya yung gear na binebenta mo as if naman na mas hi end yun ipapalit nya.  Iismolin nya yan hanggang sa maramdaman mo na siya na lang at wala ng ibang tao sa mundo ang may interes na bumili ng gear mo.

   (Sasabihin nila: "may choices ka", "eh di wag mo na itext at sa iba mo na ibenta")

2. Baratan Galore!  -  Kung magbebenta ka naman babaratin nya masyado.  May reklamo din before na kahit nagkasundo na kayo sa presyo pagdating mo sa place nya eh babaratin ka pa rin nya hanggang sa mapilitan ka na ibenta sa presyo.   Kung pwede nga lang na ibigay mo na lang yang binebenta mo at ikaw pa ang magbayad sa binigay mong gear ay malamang na ginawa na nya.
 
(Sasabihin nila: "may choices ka", eh di wag mo ibenta at umalis ka sa place nya)


3.  Maangas! (Hi Gain)  -  "Yung una ipaparamdam nya sa 'yo na balewala yung gamit mo at ang susunod eh ipaparamdam naman nya na balewala ka, Sabi pa nya "I am receiving 300 text messages a day, I am so busy, no time to deal with your cheap gear!   If you want to deal with me call me  . . . "   Grabe no?  Ipaparamdam nya na kailangan mo sya kaya dapat ikaw ang sumunod sa sasabihin nya,  hindi mo nga matatawag na deal yun kasi lahat opinion nya, lahat set-up nya, lahat sya, sya magsasabi at ikaw naman tatango ka lang.   One sided masyado . . .  Kung may godfather sa bentahan ng musical gear sigurado ko si Tom 'yun  At kapag umayaw ka sa gusto nya . . hay naku Low Baller ang itatawag n'ya sa 'yo.

(Sasabihin nila: "may choices ka", eh di wag ka makipag-deal, one sided pala eh)


4.  He will eat you if you are weak - May nagshare sa kin ng experience nya kay tom,  masyado kasi mabait ang tao na nagkwento nito, kung titingnan mo sya mukhang inosente ang itsura nya.   Benta sya gamit, nagkasundo sa presyo, pagdating sa place ni tom binabarat pa uli yun gear nya, eh taga Laguna daw sya, para lang hindi na sya mapagod na iuwi yung dala nya eh napilitan na syang ibigay sa presyong gusto ni tom.  Paguwi nya ng bahay talagang galit na galit sya kay Tom kasi wala naman reason para baratin pa yun gear nya dahil sobrang baba na ng napagkasunduan nila.  Feeling niya niloko talaga sya.

(Sasabihin nila: "may choice ka", eh di iuwi mo na lang 'yung gamit mo kahit mabigat)

Tama sila may choice tayo . . .

Ganito 'yun,  negosyante si Tom, sa tingin nya effective yung style nya kaya hindi nya babaguhin 'yung style na 'yun. He is earning money through that strategy.   Hangga't hindi sya natututo hindi sya magbabago.  

And again may choice tayo . . .  

  Naisip ko lang PWEDE NAMAN PALA IBOYCOTT SI TOM!

  Tama 'yun na lang ang pwede nating gawin sa kanya.   That is the best thing that we can do . . .  Kapag wala ng bumibili sa kanya baka magbago na ugali nya!

On this day we established a new group here in Philmusic!

BOYCOTT PREYDOM TOM MOVEMENT!

To all members please spread this thread!

Basta ako di ko na kakausapin 'tong taong ito!   At choice ko 'yun!

agreed :lol:
When World War III begins, get as many boss pedals as you can and build your fallout shelter out of them - you may not survive but they will :-D

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Re: FreedomTom the German..
« Reply #401 on: February 15, 2009, 01:58:19 PM »
I hope this thread will serve as a warning for everyone.   People who are not aware of his bizarre marketing strategy are fortunate to be aware now and lucky to have the idea on what to expect from this guy.  

Eto mga boys, icebreaker masyado na tayo mainit eh . . .

Eto mga reklamo natin kay Tom

1. Maangas! (Low Gain) -  Iismolin nya yung gear na binebenta mo as if naman na mas hi end yun ipapalit nya.  Iismolin nya yan hanggang sa maramdaman mo na siya na lang at wala ng ibang tao sa mundo ang may interes na bumili ng gear mo.

   (Sasabihin nila: "may choices ka", "eh di wag mo na itext at sa iba mo na ibenta")

2. Baratan Galore!  -  Kung magbebenta ka naman babaratin nya masyado.  May reklamo din before na kahit nagkasundo na kayo sa presyo pagdating mo sa place nya eh babaratin ka pa rin nya hanggang sa mapilitan ka na ibenta sa presyo.   Kung pwede nga lang na ibigay mo na lang yang binebenta mo at ikaw pa ang magbayad sa binigay mong gear ay malamang na ginawa na nya.
 
(Sasabihin nila: "may choices ka", eh di wag mo ibenta at umalis ka sa place nya)


3.  Maangas! (Hi Gain)  -  "Yung una ipaparamdam nya sa 'yo na balewala yung gamit mo at ang susunod eh ipaparamdam naman nya na balewala ka, Sabi pa nya "I am receiving 300 text messages a day, I am so busy, no time to deal with your cheap gear!   If you want to deal with me call me  . . . "   Grabe no?  Ipaparamdam nya na kailangan mo sya kaya dapat ikaw ang sumunod sa sasabihin nya,  hindi mo nga matatawag na deal yun kasi lahat opinion nya, lahat set-up nya, lahat sya, sya magsasabi at ikaw naman tatango ka lang.   One sided masyado . . .  Kung may godfather sa bentahan ng musical gear sigurado ko si Tom 'yun  At kapag umayaw ka sa gusto nya . . hay naku Low Baller ang itatawag n'ya sa 'yo.

(Sasabihin nila: "may choices ka", eh di wag ka makipag-deal, one sided pala eh)


4.  He will eat you if you are weak - May nagshare sa kin ng experience nya kay tom,  masyado kasi mabait ang tao na nagkwento nito, kung titingnan mo sya mukhang inosente ang itsura nya.   Benta sya gamit, nagkasundo sa presyo, pagdating sa place ni tom binabarat pa uli yun gear nya, eh taga Laguna daw sya, para lang hindi na sya mapagod na iuwi yung dala nya eh napilitan na syang ibigay sa presyong gusto ni tom.  Paguwi nya ng bahay talagang galit na galit sya kay Tom kasi wala naman reason para baratin pa yun gear nya dahil sobrang baba na ng napagkasunduan nila.  Feeling niya niloko talaga sya.

(Sasabihin nila: "may choice ka", eh di iuwi mo na lang 'yung gamit mo kahit mabigat)

Tama sila may choice tayo . . .

Ganito 'yun,  negosyante si Tom, sa tingin nya effective yung style nya kaya hindi nya babaguhin 'yung style na 'yun. He is earning money through that strategy.   Hangga't hindi sya natututo hindi sya magbabago.  

And again may choice tayo . . .  

  Naisip ko lang PWEDE NAMAN PALA IBOYCOTT SI TOM!

  Tama 'yun na lang ang pwede nating gawin sa kanya.   That is the best thing that we can do . . .  Kapag wala ng bumibili sa kanya baka magbago na ugali nya!

On this day we established a new group here in Philmusic!

BOYCOTT PREYDOM TOM MOVEMENT!

To all members please spread this thread!

Basta ako di ko na kakausapin 'tong taong ito!   At choice ko 'yun!

agreed :lol:
When World War III begins, get as many boss pedals as you can and build your fallout shelter out of them - you may not survive but they will :-D

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Re: FreedomTom the German..
« Reply #402 on: February 16, 2009, 04:08:42 AM »
I nominate this for thread of the year 2009! :lol:

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« Reply #403 on: February 16, 2009, 10:48:49 AM »
iba parin ang filipino ka deal mabait at edukado
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« Reply #404 on: February 16, 2009, 10:53:57 AM »
I nominate this for thread of the year 2009! :lol:

i second 'tat
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« Reply #405 on: February 16, 2009, 10:56:12 AM »
iba parin ang filipino ka deal mabait at edukado

not all man. hanapin mo thread ni deltaslim. I don't think this has anything to do with race or culture. Kahit saang bansa may mahahanap kang magulo kausap. sa pilipinas lang, napakarami.
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« Reply #406 on: February 16, 2009, 11:08:30 AM »
any reviews about his 'original '71 stratocaster the olympic white one he's selling for 4500 dollars ?? is it authentic
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« Reply #407 on: February 16, 2009, 11:11:29 AM »
wala bang pics ni freedomtom d'yan? baka may nagpa-pics after ng deal? from a satisfied customer  :lol:

joke joke  :lol:

wag na sana palalalain... kung gusto, gusto. pag ayaw, ayaw talaga... magsama na lang para hindi mahulog sa patibong, sama n'yo nanay o tatay n'yo

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« Reply #408 on: February 16, 2009, 11:34:36 AM »
i had no problem with him in fact sabi niya kung ayaw ko items niya if i go sa place niya ok lang daw no problem and no i dont find his prices high infact i find them low like the gibson 77 its like 100k+ in ebay hes salling for 78k not bad
medyo madaldal lang siya hehe
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« Reply #409 on: February 16, 2009, 11:36:32 AM »
naka lagay ba yung serial numbers sa fender in neck at sa body ? yung 71 strat niya na white orig ba yun?
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« Reply #410 on: February 16, 2009, 12:36:18 PM »
up for

BOYCOTT PREYDOM TOM MOVEMENT

Guys I will try to create a social network for this movement ala friendster .. . .

pwede sigurong name is ANTI_TOMster

hahahah .   .   .   add n'yo ko ha!

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« Reply #411 on: February 16, 2009, 02:25:51 PM »
i just talked to him awhile ago regarding the 71 strat he seems to be a very nice person to talk to he pledge like as he was treating me as a kid in saying that price is last .. we all have our thoughts
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« Reply #412 on: February 16, 2009, 03:18:43 PM »
wag na sigurong gawing sobrang complicated ang topic na ito. kung namamahalan sa tinda nya, kung naangasan sa kanya, kung minamaliit nya yung gamit nyo, kung ayaw ng nakahubad kapag humaharap sa tao, etc..etc.., EH DI WAG MAKIPAG-DEAL SA KANYA.

well, maliban nalang kung tipong basic necessity ang binebenta nya, parang tubig or kuryente, tapos monopolized pa nya ito. eh kaso... hindi naman eh.

yan ang opinyon ko.

(belated happy valentines sa inyong lahat. love and world peace na mga tol.)  8-)
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« Reply #413 on: February 16, 2009, 07:22:21 PM »
wag na sigurong gawing sobrang complicated ang topic na ito. kung namamahalan sa tinda nya, kung naangasan sa kanya, kung minamaliit nya yung gamit nyo, kung ayaw ng nakahubad kapag humaharap sa tao, etc..etc.., EH DI WAG MAKIPAG-DEAL SA KANYA.

well, maliban nalang kung tipong basic necessity ang binebenta nya, parang tubig or kuryente, tapos monopolized pa nya ito. eh kaso... hindi naman eh.

yan ang opinyon ko.

(belated happy valentines sa inyong lahat. love and world peace na mga tol.)  8-)


tama! +1 sa mga post natin! hehe nag Febfair ka ba? hehe

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« Reply #414 on: February 16, 2009, 08:16:14 PM »
^hindi brad eh. wala na siguro hahatak saken dun sa grounds sa tagal ko nang hindi nakakadalaw.
natawa naman ako -> alam natin ang difference ng "febfair" sa "UP fair" geographically.  :lol:
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« Reply #415 on: February 16, 2009, 08:23:01 PM »
i guess it depends kung sino ka-deal niya i mean pag-nakita niya na kaya niyang makuha sa "gulang" syempre he will go for it nag-pakita ka ng weakness eh...based sa mga nag-bigay ng kanilang experience nung makita ni Tom na "matigas" sila wala namang nagawa si Tom
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« Reply #416 on: February 16, 2009, 08:47:15 PM »
i've been in the buy and sell biz of guitars and drums even before Philmusic ever existed..yung tipong Buy and Sell Magazine pa lang tinignan ko sa  section 505 Musical Instruments section..and i have a 5ft + file stack of that magazines!just to know kung meron bagong murang gitara na binebenta at una akong makabili!at yung panahon na 7k to 8k lang ang bentahan ng mga lawsuit long tenon Lp's...like Tokai love rock,greco..orville..at hindi ko pa pinapansin nun ang maga tele!at strat!kasi more on tusok at floyded pa hilig ko nun!he.he.kaya mura ko lang bebnebenta ang mga Lp at strat nun pag Ibanez,Yamaha yan ang medyo mahal!he.he.yan hinanahanap sakin ng mga clients ko e..but little by little nalaman ko na mas luma mas mahal!
and for straight 5years of buy and selling ng guitars at drum items naging success naman ang buy and sell biz ko those years past..selling for about 300+ guitars and 20+sets of drumset mostly branded not including cymbals,piccolos and other pedal stuffs...until i met this guy Mr.Tom the German from the heart of CCP!we met when buy my 60's Fender Twin Amp at merely 14thou but my price is 22thou..dapat hindi sa kanya ko dadalhin ang twin reverb kasi may buyer pa akong isa na pinoy na sure 22k bibilhin..but i decide na kay tom dalhin kasi amaayos kausap at mukhang mabait pero not what ive expected...by dollars kung magbawas sya ng price kung bibili cya..example kung may punit tolex minus$$,,kung magkaiba tubes,,minus dollars$$$...wala nako magawa kasi ive rent a van just to deliver the twin to him!i sell him fender champ12 all tube he buy at messly 2.2k or 3.2k..kasama ko pa pinsan ko nun at forum fanatic na dito sa pm..wala ka na magagawa kasi ang layo pa ng pinangalingan mo at para bitbitin mo pa ulet pauwi ang napabigat ng amp!!madali cya kausap pag dipa kayo magkaharap pero once magkaharap na kayo ayan ang tunay malalaman m9 na pagkatao nya..siguro this days nagbago na sya kasi madami na nagrereklano sa kanya..kaya instinct wise magpakabait na sya"Ive learned my lessons in a tragic way...at just think this mga sir ..yung mga vintage stuff na dapat tayo ang nagmamayari or rather nandito pa sana sa pinas at someday mahawakan din ng mga future musician natin maybe mga anak natin e  napapunta sa ibang bansa dahil dun nya binenbenta ang mga ito..well,siguro  hindi na ngayon..kasi inaads nya na rin sa pm e...yung mga nagsasabi na mabait sya at matino naman ka-deal e nito na lang sya ganun mga ser..fyi,,.I have nothing against Tom what im saying is what he is!PEACE..
to my old friends sa buy and selling JIE of nueva ecija,,Dan utoy taba aka Dan Sparta,Jerry of Angeles Pampanga,Jon Nerry of Paranaque,Darrell Oregeorge,,you might not know me as Karlwilson but i know you mga ser!at naging maganda ang bawat deal natin mapa Luge man o mapa Tubo man sa deal..he.he.Salamat sa inyo mga sir!
PEACE..out..
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« Reply #417 on: February 16, 2009, 11:32:58 PM »
i just talked to him awhile ago regarding the 71 strat he seems to be a very nice person to talk to he pledge like as he was treating me as a kid in saying that price is last .. we all have our thoughts

well,perhaps he is learning and he should. " he seems to be a very person..." haha .. for how long? we have another testimony from a forumite karl wilson below..

he can't keep his real character long. lalabas at lalabas din yan.. :wink:

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« Reply #418 on: February 17, 2009, 05:04:08 AM »
i've been in the buy and sell biz of guitars and drums even before Philmusic ever existed..yung tipong Buy and Sell Magazine pa lang tinignan ko sa  section 505 Musical Instruments section..and i have a 5ft + file stack of that magazines!just to know kung meron bagong murang gitara na binebenta at una akong makabili!at yung panahon na 7k to 8k lang ang bentahan ng mga lawsuit long tenon Lp's...like Tokai love rock,greco..orville..at hindi ko pa pinapansin nun ang maga tele!at strat!kasi more on tusok at floyded pa hilig ko nun!he.he.kaya mura ko lang bebnebenta ang mga Lp at strat nun pag Ibanez,Yamaha yan ang medyo mahal!he.he.yan hinanahanap sakin ng mga clients ko e..but little by little nalaman ko na mas luma mas mahal!
and for straight 5years of buy and selling ng guitars at drum items naging success naman ang buy and sell biz ko those years past..selling for about 300+ guitars and 20+sets of drumset mostly branded not including cymbals,piccolos and other pedal stuffs...until i met this guy Mr.Tom the German from the heart of CCP!we met when buy my 60's Fender Twin Amp at merely 14thou but my price is 22thou..dapat hindi sa kanya ko dadalhin ang twin reverb kasi may buyer pa akong isa na pinoy na sure 22k bibilhin..but i decide na kay tom dalhin kasi amaayos kausap at mukhang mabait pero not what ive expected...by dollars kung magbawas sya ng price kung bibili cya..example kung may punit tolex minus$$,,kung magkaiba tubes,,minus dollars$$$...wala nako magawa kasi ive rent a van just to deliver the twin to him!i sell him fender champ12 all tube he buy at messly 2.2k or 3.2k..kasama ko pa pinsan ko nun at forum fanatic na dito sa pm..wala ka na magagawa kasi ang layo pa ng pinangalingan mo at para bitbitin mo pa ulet pauwi ang napabigat ng amp!!madali cya kausap pag dipa kayo magkaharap pero once magkaharap na kayo ayan ang tunay malalaman m9 na pagkatao nya..siguro this days nagbago na sya kasi madami na nagrereklano sa kanya..kaya instinct wise magpakabait na sya"Ive learned my lessons in a tragic way...at just think this mga sir ..yung mga vintage stuff na dapat tayo ang nagmamayari or rather nandito pa sana sa pinas at someday mahawakan din ng mga future musician natin maybe mga anak natin e  napapunta sa ibang bansa dahil dun nya binenbenta ang mga ito..well,siguro  hindi na ngayon..kasi inaads nya na rin sa pm e...yung mga nagsasabi na mabait sya at matino naman ka-deal e nito na lang sya ganun mga ser..fyi,,.I have nothing against Tom what im saying is what he is!PEACE..
to my old friends sa buy and selling JIE of nueva ecija,,Dan utoy taba aka Dan Sparta,Jerry of Angeles Pampanga,Jon Nerry of Paranaque,Darrell Oregeorge,,you might not know me as Karlwilson but i know you mga ser!at naging maganda ang bawat deal natin mapa Luge man o mapa Tubo man sa deal..he.he.Salamat sa inyo mga sir!
PEACE..out..

the same old trick by Tom, hr's been doing these for years na pala. the same same complaint as well.. tsk. tsk.. sir karl unfortunately di pa rin po sya nagbago, kanina ata nagbago na parang kid nga daw turing nya sa tumawg at may pledge pa.. but i am sure it won't take long, he might have felt the ire of the pilipino musians he offended, insulted...

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« Reply #419 on: February 17, 2009, 05:59:07 AM »
^hindi brad eh. wala na siguro hahatak saken dun sa grounds sa tagal ko nang hindi nakakadalaw.
natawa naman ako -> alam natin ang difference ng "febfair" sa "UP fair" geographically.  :lol:


Hahaha magkaiba pala tawag no? ngayon ko lang nalaman...

para hindi OT... mabuhay si Tom at ang kanyang malabong business prakteeees!!! hehe

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« Reply #420 on: February 17, 2009, 09:51:20 AM »
haay,,grabe na toh,,,,,thread of the year na nga ata toh,,the PREYdomTOM thread,,,o well wala na ata talagang pagbabago tong aleman nato ah..kagara.. :| mga pinoy sa sariling bansa napaglalamangan padin,,,when will we ever learn?????? jesus :?
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« Reply #421 on: February 17, 2009, 12:03:16 PM »
Bago na ang stand ko with tom. im not for him or against him. i hate his tactics and his dirty personality. he manipulates deals. so para sa akin you have to learn to manipulate him din.  :lol:


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« Reply #422 on: February 17, 2009, 01:34:53 PM »
Bago na ang stand ko with tom. im not for him or against him. i hate his tactics and his dirty personality. he manipulates deals. so para sa akin you have to learn to manipulate him din:lol:


I agree

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« Reply #423 on: February 17, 2009, 02:00:48 PM »
Bago na ang stand ko with tom. im not for him or against him. i hate his tactics and his dirty personality. he manipulates deals. so para sa akin you have to learn to manipulate him din.  :lol:


i couldnt agree more.
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« Reply #424 on: February 17, 2009, 06:57:39 PM »
i couldnt agree more.

+1.....sheeesssss manipulate him?? no way,,magiging tom th 2nd lang aku nun.... :| teach him a lesson mas mabuti pa ata yun
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