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Offline nickoreno

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2008, 10:19:01 AM »
 :mrgreen: parang bwal mo itest ung mga gitara dito...
nung nagpunta ako ng tomlee music sa hk lahat pwede mo itry kahit ung prs na tig 100k hk dollars pwede. kahit mga jem series o js o kya ung pinakamahal na fender or gibson or musicman, kahit amp and fx pwede kahit wala kang bibilhin ok lang pero syempre nahihiya din ako kaya bumibili ako paunti unti tulad ng mga cables, picks o kung ano2 na mura hehehe.. tpos ung presyo dito sobrang mahal.. ung sale natin dito sa pinas ordinary price lang ng guitar dun minsan mas mahal pa din ung sale price natin dito... kaya kayo punta na kayo dun.. joke hehehe! problema baka masita sa custom hehehe mas maganda kung my kakilala kayo na taga dun or nagtratrabaho dun para alang tax hehehe.. ako kasi di ko dineclare ung guitar ko eh lusot hehehe..

Offline nathanmanansala

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2008, 10:19:46 AM »
sana meron rooms where you can test gear in private. away from the kibitzers.

also, spare parts!!! matched tube sets please! celestion, eminence and jensen speakers! sperzel, gotoh kluson and grover tuners! wilkinsons and floyd rose trems!

also, more guitarist widgets!!! jazz III picks please! more tuner choices! better capos! heavier guage strings! stock up on more 11s and less 8s!!! :lol:

also, depreciation!!! items over 2 years old should not be sold at brand new price (kahit na ba pinunasan para walang alikabok). and dont make us wait for the next sale kasi by then, nagastos na namin yung pambili. :lol:

Offline scofield

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2008, 10:25:54 AM »
some music store clerks act like they own the guitars that they are selling..

i heard some stories about them fender pickups from them us deluxe fenders being...hmmm...info is not yet verified just heard them from previous employees

some clerks are nice - like the ones in perfect pitch south mall and some in audiophile(the manager maybe)

last frustration - not enough gibsons and epiphones!i know there are some in pjc and everymusic but in the mainstream music stores..i wanna see them again :lol:

Offline Single Stroke Seven

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2008, 10:26:17 AM »
1. Brand exclusivity - only this chain carries this brand, only that chain carries that brand. Sana parang sa States, you walk into a music store or shop online, almost all brands are carried by the merchant. This creates price competition. In the end, panalo ang consumer.

2. Music too loud at their stores - this is especially true with stores that are selling those karaoke microphones. For one, hindi kayo nagkakarinigan ng mga salespersons. Some customers who are trying out some guitars cannot even hear what the guitars sound like because of the blaring noise from the Ikstrim Madyiksing!

3. Customer service - they (the salespeople) should be the one to tell the customer that he can try whichever product he wants. Hindi yung medyo hesitant silang ipa-try ang product kahit in the end the customer may not buy it.

4. Set up the guitars properly before displaying - A lot of guitars that are on display are not properly set up. The bridge is too high, the intonation is off, etc. Alangan namang customer pa ang magse-set up ano? If a beginner is out to buy his first guitar, he tries out one, and ang hirap i-fret ng strings because the action is too high, he may end up not buying the guitar. But if it was properly set up and it was a joy to play, he may end up buying it.

5. More choices - If I'm out to buy a guitar and I'm eyeing a particular brand and model, I should be able to try several of the said brand & model. Hindi yung one guitar per model lang yung available/naka-display. Pag minsan one guitar per brand nga lang available e. Because the one on display may turn out to be defective (say, uneven frets), I should be given another guitar of the same model to try out. Pero hindi e, nasa-warehouse lahat e. Now hanggat hindi nabebenta yung guitar na may uneven frets, they're hesitant to bring in another one from the warehouse. Sayang on their part, sales na sana yun, naging bato pa. If they could bring in at least 3 of the same model for me to try out, I might end up buying one of those three.
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Offline farleysbeat

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2008, 10:29:59 AM »
1) limited choices of gear
2) madalas sobrang mataas ang patong
3) walang testing rooms
4) yung mga old stock, bnew pa rin ang presyo
5) walang spare/modification parts...kung meron man, sobra-sobrang low-end
6) parating di nila alam kung "kailan ulit ang dating" ng out-of-stock equipment
7) kulang sa costumer support at costumer service lalo na kapag nabili mo na yung gamit

OT:

pero classic pa rin yung ganitong pangyayari sa music stores:

costumer: "magkano yung (insert item here) nyo?"
seller:       "mahal yan."  :evil:
Luke 1:37; Mark 9:23


Offline Lahed92801

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2008, 11:57:37 AM »
Ang laki ng patong. Ang daya.

And i hate it that they never EVER seem to have new stocks of guitars. The guitars i test in most stores are dilapidated already. How can you expect me to buy a guitar if my first impressions of it are like that?

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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2008, 12:52:23 PM »
High prices limited choices :-D
+1  :-D

Kahit pick, ang hirap maghanap ng trip mo talaga.. :lol:
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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2008, 01:50:33 PM »


costumer: "magkano yung (insert item here) nyo?"
seller:       "mahal yan."  :evil:

naganyan na ako.. sinagot ko ng :

"ows? ampanget panget tapos mahal?"  :evil:
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2008, 01:53:36 PM »
 :lol:
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Offline tam_guitar

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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2008, 01:59:58 PM »
they should not always focus on freakin guitars...

they should include small important stuff like

height screws - cause they easily get rusted
pickguard srews - " "
pickup rings - always out of stock, no so much selection of colors.


etc...


There is no tone. There is only music.

Offline powerchord41

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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2008, 03:14:19 PM »
naganyan na ako.. sinagot ko ng :

"ows? ampanget panget tapos mahal?"  :evil:

ganyan palagi sa perfect pitch sa park square... ehehe... baka ako lang yung nakaka experience don i really hate that store...

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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2008, 03:24:46 PM »
some stores don't have the 7 day direct replacement of the item/s that you bought na nasira... or sira... yes they have like 3 or 6 months warranty pero i bought 1 pedal sa jb... equalizer... i had it for like 2 days lang tapos nagloko then i asked if they can give me a replacement.. hindi daw pede so what they did is they took my pedal and told me na aayusin tapos ang tagal ng paghihintay 2-3 weeks... (until now i don't have my pedal yet)

---> sa lazer they really do replace pala... i bought a new guitar straight from their stockroom the next day umangat ung bridge ng acoustic guitar ko i brought it back then after a month nung dumating ung new stocks nila they gave me a new one...

sana stores here have enough stock in their stockroom kasi minsan when you buy ang bibigay sa iyo yung display... and when you ask if they have stock wala na daw...

spareparts like others frustration...

updated prices sa sites nila...

and better service...


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Offline gereyster

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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2008, 03:42:05 PM »
as one of the forumites have said, panalo talaga sa tom lee hongkong. you can test basically anything on that store and the sales clerk are very accommodating. the price is also right for the item. ayun nga lang may mga problema sa tax ek ek. diskartehan nyo nalang. :-D

honestly, nung nagbukas ang mall of asia, inisip ko, "may tom lee na siguro dito.." wala lang.. umasa lang naman ako..

regarding the music stores here, siguro variety ng mga brands to sell sa guitars, bass, and effects etc.. and sana man lang include nila yung buong line ng products hindi yung mga kadalasan lang nabibili.. at shempre sana mas bigyan nila ng justice yung price ng item.
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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2008, 03:53:08 PM »
dito palang sa pampanga malalaman mo talaga agad pag di alam nung salesperson (or maybe "bantay" would be a better term) yung binebenta nila.  :-(

ito pa isang experience ko, pinag eksperimentuhan ko sila while looking for a nice cheap bass: i acted real nice and then nag reklamo ako, yung bass di nila alam itono kaya sabi ko: "o sige, sige, ako nalang magtotono". i acted really disappointed (after all, i was a little) when doing this part. i tried to gain some kind of "upper-hand" by throwing some technical terms, asking them about the guitar/bass (kung anong kahoy, kung san gawa) and then correcting them (hehe)... it's much easier to haggle after that... pero di ako bumili...  :-D

andami din parts na kelangan ko pang pumunta ng manila para mag-browse lang. biro mo, mag bbrowse lang ako... tapos yung iba nga ding stores din dyan, yun nga, di  din accomodating.

mga toggles (sira yung sa LP ko, sino meron?  :lol: ) , mahal ng knobs, walang mabilan ng magagandang PU, tuning machines, dami nilang pagkukulang as music stores
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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2008, 05:50:18 PM »
That seems to be the trend....
when stocks run out, they usually don't know when the next batch will arrive or if there even is a next batch at all.

oo nga ehh..

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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2008, 06:13:21 PM »
hmmm overkill prices ng mga items. oh baka naman talagang mababa lang sweldo ng pinoy? LoL
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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2008, 06:17:06 PM »
Quote
hmmm overkill prices ng mga items. oh baka naman talagang mababa lang sweldo ng pinoy? LoL

Point taken. woe to the buying power of the Peso.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2008, 06:19:08 PM by alalala »
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Offline dark_minister

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2008, 07:56:15 AM »
like what most of the guys are saying...


SPARE PARTS, REASONABLE PRICES AND A WIDE ARRAY OF GUITAR RELATED PRODUCTS, LALO NA BRANDS TO CHOOSE FROM WHEN IT COMES TO GUITARS, AMPS AND EFFECTS PEDALS!!!


lagi na lang sa spare parts... like for example i called this well-known music store (not mentioned for confidetiality), asking if they have pots... what kind they asked, i told them a 500k split shaft mini pot, they said "ay ser, wala po, out of stock"... then asked when can they have supplies of those, they said "di po namin alam, siguro by start of 2008 na, di ko sure"... sa lagay eh di pa sila sure... naman... kung mag-aala-"stewart-macdonald" sila then halong musicians friend, aysus, maraming matutuwa for sure... :-D
« Last Edit: January 05, 2008, 07:59:33 AM by dark_minister »
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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2008, 01:28:21 PM »
1. Brand exclusivity - only this chain carries this brand, only that chain carries that brand. Sana parang sa States, you walk into a music store or shop online, almost all brands are carried by the merchant. This creates price competition. In the end, panalo ang consumer.

4. Set up the guitars properly before displaying - A lot of guitars that are on display are not properly set up. The bridge is too high, the intonation is off, etc. Alangan namang customer pa ang magse-set up ano? If a beginner is out to buy his first guitar, he tries out one, and ang hirap i-fret ng strings because the action is too high, he may end up not buying the guitar. But if it was properly set up and it was a joy to play, he may end up buying it.


+100

gusto ko sana magka schecter dito... haha
saka nung sinamahan ko yung cousin ko bumili ng bass sa l****, tumingin-tingin ako sa mga gitara dun, halos lahat ata wala sa tono... natawa pa nga ako kasi nung tinetesting namin yung bass, ginamit nung guy yung tuner na binebenta nila, pero hindi gumagana... hehe

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2008, 03:57:14 AM »
bakit maraming salespersons mukhang nakakatakot lalo na pag kaming girls yung bibili. yun bang hardcore na mahaba buhok balbas kambing?
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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2008, 11:09:59 AM »
oo nga saya sana kung masusubukan mo lahat ng gitara sabi ng erpat ko nung my biyahe sila sa london dami daw mga gitara and ibang mga brands ,saya nga eh hindi marunong erpat ko sa instrumento kaya hindi ako mbilhan ng gitara from abroad,.

dami ding kulang supplies for musicians dito sa pinas usually makikita mo mga sikat na brand, kaya nga nung nkita ko yung shure na gitara ng isa nating kasamahan dito sa forum sh*** ang ganda sabi ko,hehehehe violent reaction hehehee....sir delta kanino nga pla ulit yung gitarang yun kay sir joric ba? yung pulang gitara sa xmas party ang ganda kasi nun


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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2008, 01:42:24 PM »
Spare parts for guitars amps and even effects( ie: knobs, tubes, other hardware)

lack of variety in terms of guitar/amp model,color,brands...haaay

finally, a credible service center or customer support...sensya na but then there are music stores that offer services but doesnt have a qualified repair person. sometimes they even get the instruments screwed..there was one time i walked into a store, the sales man cut all 7 strings simoultaneusly then restring a floyd equiped guitar, then while doing it, he even drop the guitar and got it dinged....buti nalang meron tayo mga go to guys dito sa philmusic for maintainance of our gears :-D



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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2008, 01:55:37 PM »
Nobody likes to carry Gibson.... (why are they so afraid of Gibson anyway?)
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« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2008, 02:25:46 PM »
maybe because its high cost , and therefore will be hard too to dispose off at large quantities....kahit na i carry nila, bka 1 model per store lang, buti nga kung me iba pang kulay

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Re: What are your frustrations regarding music stores in the Philippines?
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2008, 02:51:50 PM »
Nobody likes to carry Gibson.... (why are they so afraid of Gibson anyway?)

Kasi, mahal. Alam nilang hindi kayang bilhin ng ordinaryong pilipino. hahahahaha!!

Sa Lazer hindi masusungit mga tao, except siguro dun sa cashier sa isang mall dito sa taguig. hehehehe.

Kulang din sa variety eh. So you need parts. Bibigyan ka nila ng generic parts na mura, which is good if you own a Raon guitar (ginawang brand yung Raon eh, noh?). But you will not put generic strings, tuning keys, etc on a Grestch, Gibson or even a Fender original, di ba? Buti na lang we have stores like RJ who produce high quality parts at low prices.

Sama natin yung mga practice studio. Sa Lazer, Market! Market! sobrang liit nung studio, tas ang limit nila eh 5 band members. Mukha kaung sardinas sa loob. Hope they read this and do someting about it.
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