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which one has the best tonal response,brilliance and resonance?

mahogany
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rosewood
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Offline melvz

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acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« on: February 17, 2008, 11:52:42 AM »
which tonewood has the best tonal response, brilliance and resonance?



Offline borgy

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Re: acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2008, 04:19:29 PM »
Mahogany and rosewood will give different sounds. I prefer solid rosewood guitars for they give you much warmer tone. The grain of rosewood back and sides gives more aesthetic appearance.
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Offline GGBR

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Re: acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2008, 11:19:05 PM »
which tonewood has the best tonal response, brilliance and resonance?

WHAT IS YOUR PREFERRED ICE CREAM FLAVOUR - STRAWBERRY, RASPBERRY OR MANGO??? WHICH FOR YOU IS A BETTER PALATE TEASER

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Re: acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 05:55:48 PM »
anong acoustic ba sinasabi mo?
Steel ba or Classical "nylon"?

kasi sa classical (nylon) mahogany is used for the neck...isa sa pinaka magandang mahogany ay ang sariling atin na Philippine mahogany...tapos ang rosewood ay para sa back & sides.. pwede din sa finger board... sa top of the line na classical guitars... brazillian rosewood (jacaranda) for back & sides... solid cedar or solid spruce (AA german spruce). tapos mahogany for the neck.. mga ibang bansa kumukuha sa atin ng mahogany kasi mas solid sya at di umuurong pag nagiiba ng climate..

sa back & sides marami na din options na wood tulad ng Zircote (siricote or ziricote).. example na dito yung bagong mga gawa ni tata apa na nagulat ako at pwede na tumapat sa mga Khono at Ramirez in terms of quality ng sound at volume!




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Re: acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2008, 06:14:13 PM »
which tonewood has the best tonal response, brilliance and resonance?

rosewood... warm, darker tone
mahogany... snappy and brighter

the luthier plays a very important role too...
« Last Edit: May 15, 2008, 06:23:35 PM by farseer »


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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 06:16:26 PM »
 example na dito yung bagong mga gawa ni tata apa na nagulat ako at pwede na tumapat sa mga Khono at Ramirez in terms of quality ng sound at volume!


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maybe some of the lower end ramirez... but a khono??? no way :-)

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 06:32:31 PM »
you better see it to believe it..
ask phil valdez... after he tested it he didn't even bother to bring out his friend's khono

tata even dared him to compare it..
better yet ask tata who bought his guitar then bring a khono with you... :-D
tapos compare the two...

i've seen almost all locally made classical guitars.. from the demetrios,javiers, derecho etc... even tata's old guitar works..almost all of them are good & have their own identity.. . but i have never heard or seen a locally made classical guitar that has the tone/sound quality of his recent works isama mo na pati yung volume (4 actually) pang 6th na yung pinapagawa ko.... i have seen & tested also a greg smallman, a fleta, & a robert ruckman. even a khono.. kaya i'm sure what quality tata's guitar is worth.. yung pinaka top end ng ramirez lang di ko pa nasusubukan..

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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 06:43:13 PM »
nagpagawa na ako sa kanya 3yrs ago.... the project guitar turned out to be a lemon... though some of his works for charles raby were ok... but nothing like a khono... sana nga gumaling na si tata :-)

i dont own any classical at the moment... but ive tried a few highend khono classicals...

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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »
onga pala..i have tested my friends rey Echeveria's & chaitanya das tamayo's ramirez'... chai's ramirez is a student model type & rey's is the model right below the concierto models... medyo high end but not quite the concierto guitars of ramirez...  still, tata's new works are better :-) i havnt tested the top of the line ramirez yet... except for the fleta... mas maganda syempre ang fleta.. but i like tata's than that of a smallman in terms of sound quality :-D dont get me wrong here maganda din ang smallman parang tubig yung clarity ng notes... masyado lang manipis para sa romantic period pieces... but a smallman is still smallman :-D

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Re: acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 06:56:56 PM »
for some reason, madiling mag crack ang mahogany neck lalo na pag paiba iba ang temp
« Last Edit: May 15, 2008, 07:18:39 PM by william251082 »

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 07:01:37 PM »
ah... onga yung mga dating gawa nya ay sablay..2 of my friends had the same problem.. kaya nga ako di nagpagawa dati... but i've seen his new works :-D consistent! hindi na pa-tsamba tsamba... nasira nga sya sa UST because of that.. but i guarantee his new works specially the brazillian sized body.. you got to try it man :-) the volume is the same as the khono's & the tone/sound quality is better :-D sabi nga ni tata sa akin  "eto si nards wala talagang tiwala sa akin dati 12 years na kami magkakilala ngayon lang nagpagawa"...

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 07:10:44 PM »
its funny, i didnt ask him if he can play the guitar... di pala siya marunong... if i had known that fact, hindi talaga ako magtitiwala... i know leo doesnt know how to play also, but he got it right on those teles and strats... tsamba??? maybe... but he is into engeeniring stuff... yun ginawa ni tata for me was disastrous, hindi lang yun tone... even the craftsmanship was bad and lousy... the khonos ive tried are far superior than most of tatas work in terms of tone and craftsmanship... atleast those that ive tried and tested :-)

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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2008, 07:12:39 PM »
back to regular programing :-D

its really up to you kung mahogany man o rosewood... wala pa nga diyan maple, koa, walnut etc... you have to try stuff :-)

william251082

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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2008, 07:16:52 PM »
oi may gitara ako ni mang tata dati ah! awa naman ng diyos, naipanggatong ko na whaahahahahah! :-D

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 12:26:16 AM »
oi may gitara ako ni mang tata dati ah! awa naman ng diyos, naipanggatong ko na whaahahahahah! :-D

lol... buti nabenta ko pa ng 1/3 of what i paid for
« Last Edit: May 16, 2008, 12:41:02 AM by farseer »

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Re: acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2008, 05:55:51 AM »
baka naman mga student model ang mga nakuha nyong gitara ni tata? :-)
like i said yung mga old works ni tata medyo sablay talaga... i admit meron magagnda pero tsamba-tsamba lang..
kaya nga 12 years na kami magka kilala ngayon lang ako nagpagawa eh..
kausap ko nga rin si mang Narding yung bayaw ni tata na gumagawa kay tabo derecho .. pati sya namangha sa ganda ng mga bagong gitara ni tata...
kung kilala mo si sir joe valdez... tanong mo rin yung na test nya na bagong 10 string ni tata...
kung tone quality lang at volume ang pinag usapan pwede na tumapat sa mga khono.. yung finishing lang di pa kaya tumapat pero ok na rin....

sir, pag natapos yung pinagawa ko na gitara.. i-PM kita ... EB tayo at kung ok lang sa iyo mag dala ka rin ng pinaka high end mong gitara at i compare lang natin :-) pag wal;ang kwenta yung sa akin sagot ko kahit 2 case ng SMB. :-)
sama na rin natin yung pulutan.. oks ba?

duda ko yung mga iba dito mga derecho fanatics :-) peace tayo! dalin nyo na rin at i compare na rin natin haahaha

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Re: acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2009, 02:31:26 AM »
sino ba si tata at san sya matatagpuan?

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Re: acoustic guitars?mahogany or rosesewood
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2009, 02:35:47 AM »
lol... buti nabenta ko pa ng 1/3 of what i paid for
sino ba si tata at san sya matatagpuan?