heavy metal and distortion efx

[warpigs]

Check this out from Zoom dude.

http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1968&brandID=4

[danleo]

limitado kasi pag nag dist ako e... di ganun kabigat tunog, di kaya metal na tugtugan

...umm sir, wala kasing gtx sa jb na binibilhan ko e, boston lang meron, ....sale kasi dun kaya napipilitan ako sa boston lang hehe

...pero, magkapareho lang naman po ata gtx atsaka boston ee haha

GTX and Boston are the same rebaged pedals from Beta aivin from china. The only difference is the logo. GTX are the one you can find at Raon or other music store while Boston is exclusively distributed by JB Music. Yung case color, tone, etc are just the same.

Ok yung HM-100 ng Boston, good for metal sound. Sounds similar to MT-2 but much better and could also achive tones of DS-1 which for me is a simple Distortion. Great bang for the bucks pedal but I dont own one. I own the DS-100 which sounds just similar to HM-100 but with lesser controls. Ok din siya for me cause all the tone it produce just fits for the music I'm playing, using together with OD-100 and ZOOM G Series. Yung tone the distortion sa zoom ok naman. I could achive great tone that fits for the music I'm playing but some of the distortion just sounds like crap, like the Metal Zone and OD-1. But the Peavey 5150, Mesa Boogie Dual Recti, MXR Dist+, US Blues, Marshall Guv'nor, Mesa Boogie Crunch and Proco Rat sounds ok naman just have to tweak it properly. Those simulations are good for rythmn but for lead I just don't find them transparent sounding and thats were my DS-100 and OD-100 kicks in.

[doremi]

kung ako sa iyo, save mo muna pera mo para sa magandang pedal, or sa magandang amp kung di maganda amp mo. 

and hindi mo naman talaga kailangan ng "metal" pedal to play metal. they suck IMO. karamihan sa kanila masyado madami gain na hindi mo naman kailangan. lalo lang papangit tunog mo. kahit nga overdrive pedal sa overdriven amp pwede ka na tumugtog metal.

sir, i currently own an ibanez tone blaster x ...maganda yung tunog ng x mode niya pero, kulang pa e, kailangan talaga ng heavy metal na effects haha ummm, mga sir, habol ko po kasi is yung taba/richness at pagkabigat ng tunog.. ..sa tingin ko kasi makukuha ko yun sa heavy metal. ....tas as what ive mentioned before, parang magndang buy yung hm200 kasi pwede mo rin siyang itweak para maging simpleng distortion lang, ung tipong pang urbandub. ...kaya 2 in 1 siya haha

umm, atsaka, sale kase e, lake ng discount, sayang haha

GTX and Boston are the same rebaged pedals from Beta aivin from china. The only difference is the logo. GTX are the one you can find at Raon or other music store while Boston is exclusively distributed by JB Music. Yung case color, tone, etc are just the same.

Ok yung HM-100 ng Boston, good for metal sound. Sounds similar to MT-2 but much better and could also achive tones of DS-1 which for me is a simple Distortion. Great bang for the bucks pedal but I dont own one. I own the DS-100 which sounds just similar to HM-100 but with lesser controls. Ok din siya for me cause all the tone it produce just fits for the music I'm playing, using together with OD-100 and ZOOM G Series. Yung tone the distortion sa zoom ok naman. I could achive great tone that fits for the music I'm playing but some of the distortion just sounds like crap, like the Metal Zone and OD-1. But the Peavey 5150, Mesa Boogie Dual Recti, MXR Dist+, US Blues, Marshall Guv'nor, Mesa Boogie Crunch and Proco Rat sounds ok naman just have to tweak it properly. Those simulations are good for rythmn but for lead I just don't find them transparent sounding and thats were my DS-100 and OD-100 kicks in.

ummm sir, problema ko naman dun sa peavy drive ng zoom g1x ko is, masyado siyang mabuzz.. pag nag pplay kami ng live medyo basag yung tunog e, di maganda sa tenga haha. ...yung iba namang drives... di kasi ganun kabigat at kataba yung tunog ee.. ........atsaka, sir wala po ako nung iba niyong sinabeng drives haha iba yung G1x sa G2 at sa G9 .....and so on and so on

[digitalcyco]

ser i think IMO for distortions and drives, analog is still the way to go.

then use the digital stuff for all the crazy effects you can think of.

[doremi]

sir medyo newbie p ko sa forums eh, whats IMO ?

[sweeplikevai]

sir medyo newbie p ko sa forums eh, whats IMO ?

FYI

IMO = in my opinion

[doremi]

mga sir, what do yu think if pinag sama ko yung boston hm200 and my zoom g1x? ..magkakaron b ng tone sucking? or kung anu mang disadvantage or side effects??

[skip1]

siguro kumuha ka nalng ng multi effects para all in one nalng...tapos pag nakapag decide ka na kung ano gusto mo talagang tunog tska ka na bumilipag may budget ka na..

[doremi]

naka zoom g1x na ko ....ngayon bili ako ng hm200 na boston kasi ang nipis ng drive ng zoom, ...pero sa tingin ko magkakaron ng tonesuck pag pinagsama ko yung zoom and boston hm200 eh

[digitalcyco]

naka zoom g1x na ko ....ngayon bili ako ng hm200 na boston kasi ang nipis ng drive ng zoom, ...pero sa tingin ko magkakaron ng tonesuck pag pinagsama ko yung zoom and boston hm200 eh

i use a Zoom G2 together with a bunch of other analog pedals, all it needs is just a little tweaking. but yes sadly its true I hear a little tone sucking, but its not THAT bad in my opinion its unnoticable.

im having a true-bypass switch built by CGI Electronics (to bypass the digital line) to seperate my digital line from the analog. if you plan to build a analog-digital pedalboard hybrid in the future, you might need one.

[doremi]

true bypass switch thingamajig?

...umm sir, whats that for?? haha )

...sa pagkakaintindi ko from the word itself ummm, parang sineset yung zoom mo for bypass mode?

...eh, pwede namang wala nang seperate switch yun e, dba sa g2 pag inapakan mo ng sabay yung up and down for mga 2 to 3 seconds mag bbypass n yun

medyo manipis pa po kasi sakin tunog ng boston eh, para lang siyang drive ng zoom na mas ma fuzz haha. ....kaya ayun manipis na papanipisin pa. haha. ........kailangan ko po kasi nung digital epeks o e, udub po kasi tugtugan ko e, pamatay p naman sa epeks udub haha

[Mardk]

pag na bypass yung digital line using a by pass switch, pwede pa ba lagyan ng modulation from the multi effects yung signal na pupunta sa dirt pedal?

[doremi]

mga sir, tanong ko lang... di p kasi ako maka decide kung alin bibilin e, kung dist o hm e.

may nagsabi kasi sakin na... kahit dist lang ayos na sa metal na tugtugan, di ko naman daw kasi kailangan ng ganung karaming distortion para bumili p ng heavy metal. ...kahit simpleng dist lang daw ayos na

.....tsaka, ....anu bang pinagkaiba nung dalawang yun? gain lang ba? ..o mas mabigat at mataba tunog ng heavy metal?

...gusto ko po kasi mag tunog urbandub yung drive ko tas pwede ring pang lamb of god... ...lam niyo un, 2 in 1 n pedal

[rad_12]

in my opinion yan.....tama ba mga sir? 

mt-2 ka na lang tapos EQ ka kung kulang pa rin lagyan mo ng pre-amp solve problema mo. yun lang magastos hehehehe..

[Deadwing]

just  stay away from those boss metalcore pedals. haha. it sucks

If you're using it alone as the dirt pedal on your signal chain, that's true.  I found that if I placed my TS9 before the metalcore in my signal, it brings out great sustains on lead lines and crushing rhythm sounds.  BTW, the metalcore is more suited for guitars on either drop-d tunings or guitars tuned to C# or C.

[mikomiko]

Buy a Boss DS-1 maghanap k sa classifieds then bring it to MarkV for his brit MOd im sure youll like the tone kung versatility lang din ang hanap mo

[digitalcyco]

true bypass switch thingamajig?

...umm sir, whats that for?? haha )

the principle works something like this.

if I want to use the "digital line" together with the analog I just depress the pedal once. and I i want to rejoin it to the signal chain I just press it again.

my idea here is that when i dont need the digital line, I bypass it (SKIP) and go directly to the analogs. but when I need it, i just hit the switch and it joins the entire line.

yeah it works like a BOSS PSM-5 actually but with a little cosmetic modifications, and a more simplier cuircitry.

[doremi]

mukang ayus yun a. ....kaso po sir, madalas ko po gamitin yung zoom ko e. ...halos every part ng mga songs na tinutugtog ko may epeks n kailangan from my zoom e  haha

pero sir digitalcyco salamat po sa info! ......it will come in handy pag dumame na mga analog epeks ko  ..(nako 10 years pa yun) hahaha

......pag nabili ko n po kasi yung hm 200 ko, bale ang set up ko is guitar - zoom g1x - hm 200 - amp. 

[doremi]

kung di lang talaga mahal yang mga Boss pedal n yan di na sana ko namromroblema dito haha. 

[Hellghast]

bkt naman sir?? 

ehehehe.. tama mt-2 k na lang.. tapos bili ka ng eq.. try mo muna bago ka bumili..

If you're using it alone as the dirt pedal on your signal chain, that's true.  I found that if I placed my TS9 before the metalcore in my signal, it brings out great sustains on lead lines and crushing rhythm sounds.  BTW, the metalcore is more suited for guitars on either drop-d tunings or guitars tuned to C# or C.

medyo i find it na hindi flexible kumbaga. sobrang iisa ang tunog. na try ko na din i chain sa other pedals pati sa multi pero tlgang ayoko ung output. tried it low gain combined with an overdrive. still hindi ko nagustohan. BTW my tuning is CGCFAD.

about sa zoom naman... experiment tlga eh para ma achieve mo ang sound na gusto mo. kahit lowly 606 lang ang gamit ko (yeah cheap) satisfied naman ako sa mga timpla ko. sobrang dependent din kasi sa amplifiers ang patches nang zoom and other multi effects eh.. minsan sa amp mo sa bahay ang ganda nang tunog sa studio panget, nqagtimpla ka sa studio ok na pag nasa gig na panget nanaman. hehehehe kaya i create patches for specific amps na nagamit ko na.

that way nakukuha ko ung "simpleng distortion" na hanap ko at pang grind na distortion.

[tops_in_saucers]

If you're using it alone as the dirt pedal on your signal chain, that's true.  I found that if I placed my TS9 before the metalcore in my signal, it brings out great sustains on lead lines and crushing rhythm sounds.  BTW, the metalcore is more suited for guitars on either drop-d tunings or guitars tuned to C# or C.

wow.. hndi ko pa natry toh ah.. overdrive ba ang ts9? parang gusto ko tuloy itry ah.. eh sir gumagamit ka din ba ng eq pedal?

[Deadwing]

wow.. hndi ko pa natry toh ah.. overdrive ba ang ts9? parang gusto ko tuloy itry ah.. eh sir gumagamit ka din ba ng eq pedal?

Yung TS9, yung Ibanez Tubescreamer.  OD pedal siya.

Nope on the eq.  Tweak na lang sa akin yung eq settings sa amp mismo.

[tops_in_saucers]

ahh.. pero nagiging ok na ung leads nya pag ginamitan mo ng ts9.. sir gawa ka naman ng soundclips oh.. interested talaga ako eh.. naka ml-2 din kasi ako eh..

[Deadwing]

OK.  I'll try and put something together this weekend.

[tops_in_saucers]

thanks.. balitaan mo na lang ako kung meron na ah.. thanks!!