My understanding of going direct to the board is to bypass the guitar amp, hence my reply. And the subject of the whole discussion is Zoom, not the Boss DS-1.
Well, that's a f*ckin cop-out!
If you're all for buying your sound instead of working for it, go on right ahead. But don't tell me that my set of hands are different than anybody else's. And I'm confirming it right now, I don't have special powers.
Don't cite me as an excuse for anybody's ineptitude.
While I'm not striving to sound like Guthrie (never heard of him until around 2005, where'd that comment come from?), I pulled out my sound out of that allegedly crappy Zoom product, despite not going through the "accepted" (sic) signal route.
Well we understood "direct to the board" differently then. My mentioning the DS-1 is to illustrate a setup without amp emulation or recording options. I don't see how that can be irrelevant to the topic at hand. I hope I made it clear now.
Who ever said I or anybody here is "buying" their sound? Are you telling us that is complete rubbish and invalid that we find something off with using a certain product? If we happen to notice unpleasant artifacts coming from Zoom products, and we choose not to use them, is that completely beyond your or anyone else's understanding?
Au contraire, I do "work for my sound". I do it the hard way by micing my amp, finding the right mic placement and raw tone to begin with. I try to record my guitar the hard way without too many effects and "daya". Mind you, in certain perspectives, using modelers such as Zoom pedals are in fact, the "shortcuts". I don't see how choosing NOT to use Zoom pedals can be viewed as "buying your sound" as opposed to "working for it".
Since when is choosing not to use a Zoom product "ineptitude"?
I'm not making excuses. What I'm saying is there are things we don't like about Zoom products. And I, personally, don't like using it for recording. And if you have a way of making it work for you, okay, great. Pero kung ayaw ko, ayaw ko e. My point in saying you are more skilled than I am in guitar playing and in recording, experience-wise, means that if you have a way of making Zoom pedals work for you, GREAT, because it just happens to not work for me.
Yeah, you pulled out your sound from your Zoom product. What if that sound isn't good enough for me or for what I want? That isn't by any means automatically ineptitude, right?
Since we more or less all agree that sound and tone is largely subjective, how can you attempt to disprove our preference for not having Zoom products in our recording chain?
And I'll tell you right now, I have much to learn, I'm young and I know for a clear as night and day fact that you are a better, more experienced guitar player than I am. That's not making an excuse for myself. That's being realistic and true to myself. That's a concept not too hard to swallow, right?
I just don't get it. The discussion is about preferences and what we don't like about Zoom products. Why has this devolved into another "TONE IS IN THE FINGERS" goddamned arguement?
If we were rich snobs who "buy our sounds" who don't "work for our sounds" why the heck would we even ATTEMPT to get good sounds out of Zoom products in the first place?
And I seriously take offense in your using the phrase "f*cking cop-out". I have great respect for you but I want you to know that it just sucks for a fan like me to be spoken to like that.
