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Offline raikidoodles

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Re: Boss GT10 users thread
« Reply #1225 on: July 03, 2010, 03:33:11 AM »
Nice input sir, pero paano kung sa live na halimbawa mayroon akong patches na may preamp at mayroong wala. sa CD in AUx parin ba ako sasaksak sa amp? o ililipat ko pa ng saksakan kapag wala ng preamp ang setting ng gt10 ko sa guitar input? just in case walang PA na pwedeng pagsaksakan ang GT-10. kung direct naman sa PA paano ginagawa iyon? anong cable ang gagamitin ko doon?sorry noob questions..
okay sali ako ha, very simple guys. . .

gt-10 connecting in front of an amp: (eto yung isasaksak nyo un left output ng gt-10 sa input ng kahit anong amp

1. as much as possible use the od/ds ng gt-10 nyo to drive your amp, better if you can set your mfx to manual mode to control other fx, od/ds etc. ..
2. you may use the pre amp simulations ng gt-10 but you must bypass or turn off yung mga cab models, stacking na nga ng amp pati cab models factor pa, then get the flat response of your amp(when i say amp, it is your real amp kung saan nyo isasaksak gt-10 nyo) usually nasa 12 o'clock position ang low/mid/hi or todo way up ang mid and todo lowest naman ang low and highs  OR connect nyo muna ang guitar nyo sa amp nyo and play some chords and listen to the tonal character ng amp nyo, kapag masyado ma-treble you must cut yung high ng amp. 3o'clock is a good position to start with.

gt-10 connecting to an amp with cd in or send/return loop or a mixer/line

1. it is like connecting to a mixer or power amp,  this is the best way to use the amp models of your gt-10, because your amp will act like a straight speaker, bypassed na agad ang tonal character ng amp nyo.  the tone of the amp models from your gt-10 na lang ang lalabas.  Use the line/out ng gt-10 in this setting.


Guys analog users are just using stomps to drive their amp. and their main reason to hate mfx is because it is not the real thing.pero maganda ang od/ds ng gt-10 mejo sablay nga lang sa amp models.    And all analog users are obviously in manual mode ika nga,
lets us explore muna yung od/ds ng gt-10.  Metal zone lang busog na ako eh. i tried it before using my mt-2 stomp and the mt-2 model of gt-10, napa wow ako kasi kahit anong tweak ko sa mt2 ko eh kayang habulin ng gt-10 mt2 model. Superb!   dyan talaga nakilalala ang boss, sa stomps but amp modelling mejo sablay talaga sila, and i feel sorry for that. Use your amp models when making a recording, or connecting to a mixer etc.   Anyway sino ba ang may kailangan sa amp modelling?  Usually metal sounds lang naman nangangailangan nun and i can say that gt-10 is not for metal guiarists, believe me.

If your problem is your patch then try to create a patch with a dirt tone driven by your od/ds and a separate patch with dirt tone driven by an amp sims.

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Re: Boss GT10 users thread
« Reply #1226 on: July 03, 2010, 03:43:19 AM »
"As for me I am using pre amp sims of my MFX in front of an amp pero by-passed ang cab model ng amp sims"how can i do this in GT10? :-)

you can manually do that sa amp settings ng gt-10  OR if you will use the jc-, small amp or combo amp as your output it will automatically bypassed tha cab models

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Re: Boss GT10 users thread
« Reply #1227 on: July 03, 2010, 02:50:47 PM »
im not a metal guitarist...i play in a cover band, variety ang tugtugan...wala kami keyboard, so lahat ng klase ng tunog mejo kelangan ko makuha, and satisfied naman ako sa tunog ng GT10, even the Amp Sims, kahit nga yung Synth nya nagagamit ko..di na ko gumawa ng separate set of patches na may Amp Sims and walang Amp sims..puro may Amp Sim ang mga patches ko....

hindi ko ginagamet ung amps (real amp) as my main output sa mga venues or bars na tinutugtugan namen, direct to mixer/PA lagi ako..ginagamet ko lang ung amp (real amp) as monitor sa stage, pwera lang kung indi talaga nilalabas sa house/PA yung gitara, pero nakakuha naman ako ng ok na tunog kahit galing sa amp (real amp) tunog ko...madalas ang settings ko sa amp (real amp) pag sa main input ako naka-saksak Bass-3  Mid-5  Treble-3 or  Bass-0  Mid-5  Treble-0, depende sa amp (real amp)...

pero for me mas ok gamitin ang keyboard amp sa GT10 kesa sa guitar amp kung ginagamet nyo Amp Sims ng GT10..try nyo mga bossing, kung merong keyboard amp sa stage un ang gamitin nyo, baka mas magustuhan nyo tunog

kadalasan problem naten sa GT10 yung paggawa ng high gain patches..sa mga wala pa DEC like me, meron ako nakuha tip na settings sa Eq block para sa high gain sounds, nakuha ko ata sa GT Central, pero may forumers na ata dito na ginagamet din un, free willy eq ata tawag nila, research nyo na lang, nakatulong talaga ng malaki saken..saka kung single coil pickup nyo try nyo gamitin yung Guitar Sim sa FX block, meron dun S->H (means single coil to humbucker),tapos play with the settings na lang...
« Last Edit: July 03, 2010, 02:52:36 PM by poink27 »

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« Reply #1228 on: July 03, 2010, 04:21:08 PM »
im not a metal guitarist...i play in a cover band, variety ang tugtugan...wala kami keyboard, so lahat ng klase ng tunog mejo kelangan ko makuha, and satisfied naman ako sa tunog ng GT10, even the Amp Sims, kahit nga yung Synth nya nagagamit ko..di na ko gumawa ng separate set of patches na may Amp Sims and walang Amp sims..puro may Amp Sim ang mga patches ko....

hindi ko ginagamet ung amps (real amp) as my main output sa mga venues or bars na tinutugtugan namen, direct to mixer/PA lagi ako..ginagamet ko lang ung amp (real amp) as monitor sa stage, pwera lang kung indi talaga nilalabas sa house/PA yung gitara, pero nakakuha naman ako ng ok na tunog kahit galing sa amp (real amp) tunog ko...madalas ang settings ko sa amp (real amp) pag sa main input ako naka-saksak Bass-3  Mid-5  Treble-3 or  Bass-0  Mid-5  Treble-0, depende sa amp (real amp)...

pero for me mas ok gamitin ang keyboard amp sa GT10 kesa sa guitar amp kung ginagamet nyo Amp Sims ng GT10..try nyo mga bossing, kung merong keyboard amp sa stage un ang gamitin nyo, baka mas magustuhan nyo tunog

kadalasan problem naten sa GT10 yung paggawa ng high gain patches..sa mga wala pa DEC like me, meron ako nakuha tip na settings sa Eq block para sa high gain sounds, nakuha ko ata sa GT Central, pero may forumers na ata dito na ginagamet din un, free willy eq ata tawag nila, research nyo na lang, nakatulong talaga ng malaki saken..saka kung single coil pickup nyo try nyo gamitin yung Guitar Sim sa FX block, meron dun S->H (means single coil to humbucker),tapos play with the settings na lang...

eksakto!  +1000 to this.  Dont expect your gt-10 to sound good when it comes to metal tones, pero sobrang daming magagawa with gt-10 enough reason na yun to keep your mfx, yung guitarist ko kasi parehas kami gt-10, eto mejo excited na uli kami sa pagkikita namin, im now using rp1000 and he will use gt-10, yung mga fx sound eh sya usually ang kukuha specialy the synths, pitch bend, etc. for me rhythm lang ako so i need fat round tones to make our sound MAKAPAL.   It will be a good partnership between rp1000 and gt-10 i think.   Ang sarap nito!!! :-o

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Re: Boss GT10 users thread
« Reply #1229 on: July 04, 2010, 12:34:08 AM »
@Gerit

Thanks sir, hindi ko alam yung 4 cable method
pero pagaaralan ko yan. wala ring send/return ang amp ko.

E dapat pala gagawa ako ng may pre-amp na patch at wala kung guitar input..pero sir ang tugtugan niyo ba heavy ang dist at overdrive? kasi mahalaga sa inyo ang pre-amp.

pero posible bang gawin yung mag switch ako between amp and PA system in a song?hindi pa ako sanay sa foot switch pero paano ginagawa yung pwede ako sa distortion ng amp tapos biglang lilipat sa GT-10 na nakaconnect sa PA system. pansin ko kasi sa gt-10 may option na amp control o para lang iyon sa paglipat sa clean and overdrive ng amp?

nagtanong ako sa taga perfect pitch last time..sabi niya pag gt-10 daw sa clean channel ng amp naka connect with flat knob settings at off yung overdrive channel at plug and play na daw wala siyang binangit tungkol sa pag off ng cab sims at pre-amp? ok ba yun sir?

ok pala at direct box na din yung gt-10. pero sir question lang pag diretso ba sa pa-system kailangan magcoordinate din ako sa tao na nasa mixer na lakasan yung level ng input ko?

@rakidool

thanks sir nice input about amp settings, so i must turn off the cabinets and use the amp as the cabinet.

so sir ang the best pala para sa gt-10 para lumabas lahat ng characteristics ay pagconnect sa mixer? ang problema sa live ba pag iba ng patch settings pag tugtog magiiba rin ang overall all sound? paano niyo nababalanse ung different cab sims sa live sa ibat-ibang patches?meron bang instance na mahina ang guitara kasi mahina yung pre-amp knobs na naka set sa gt-10 tapos yung isang patch malakas, may ganun ba?

@poink 27

nice sir at ginagamit niyo sa PA ang gt-10. ok din pala sa keyboard amp yan..

hindi ko pa nasusubukan yung s-->H na effects mas maganda siguro yun tapos high gain patches walang problema kahit single coil? bumili pa kasi ako ng isang gitara na may humbuckers, hindi kasi kaya ng single coil yung sobrang bigat na patches.


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Re: Boss GT10 users thread
« Reply #1230 on: July 04, 2010, 01:51:52 AM »

so sir ang the best pala para sa gt-10 para lumabas lahat ng characteristics ay pagconnect sa mixer?
---the answer is yes

ang problema sa live ba pag iba ng patch settings pag tugtog magiiba rin ang overall all sound?
---yes, dami user patches ang gt-10 200 patches to save your self needed patches, enough na yun to set your patches when you  are connecting to your amp, mixer/keyboard amp.  maybe patches 1-10 for guitar amp (front of your amp connection) and 11-10 for mixer,power amp,keyboard amp etc.

paano niyo nababalanse ung different cab sims sa live sa ibat-ibang patches?meron bang instance na mahina ang guitara kasi mahina yung pre-amp knobs na naka set sa gt-10 tapos yung isang patch malakas, may ganun ba?
---nagkakatalo lang naman ang cabinets models sa size nya, un level ng patches is nagkakaiba kapag hindi mo nai-set ang balance sound ng mga patches mo, use the phrase loop function ng gt-10 if you are about to set the balance level of your patches, first try to record a chord progression then play the progression that you recorded, from there try to change your patches and check if balance sila sa isat-isa.  Adjust ka muna sa preset level, if you think balance na ang tunog with other patches but mejo fizzy un tunog try to lessen yung gain and amp levels.  it is best to start your gain at 30 and amp level at 50, remember that a four 12inch speakers stacked in a cabinet will sound wider and more round compared sa 2x12 na cab sims, i usually use 4x12 lalo na kapag hi gain patches.

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« Reply #1231 on: July 04, 2010, 06:00:47 PM »

@poink 27

nice sir at ginagamit niyo sa PA ang gt-10. ok din pala sa keyboard amp yan..

hindi ko pa nasusubukan yung s-->H na effects mas maganda siguro yun tapos high gain patches walang problema kahit single coil? bumili pa kasi ako ng isang gitara na may humbuckers, hindi kasi kaya ng single coil yung sobrang bigat na patches.


mmm....di pa rin completely parang naka-humbucker ka na pag ginamet mo toh...parang eq lang ata tong effect na toh (S->H guitar sim), so ang effect is mas makapal ung distorted sound mo, pero indi nya matatanggal ung hum (kung indi ka naka-noiseless single coil)...hanap ka na lang ng ok na settings sa Noise Suppressor nya..saken madalas ko settings sa high gain sounds ko threshold-45  Release-0 (HSS gitara ko)

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Re: Boss GT10 users thread
« Reply #1232 on: July 04, 2010, 06:26:21 PM »
mga sir ask ko lang sa noise gate elaborate naman yung treshold and release..thanks...minsan kasi inooff ko talaga yung noise gate sometimes kasi parang hinihigop nya din yung tone umuiikli yung sustain kahit may long sustain sa compressor?
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« Reply #1233 on: July 05, 2010, 01:44:57 AM »
mmm...lahat naman ata gumagamet ng noise gate kapag naka-high gain sound, maski ung mga naka-individual stomps, lalo na kung single coil gamet na pickup... di ko naman masyado nararamdaman ung pag-iksi ng sustain...siguro mas ok ang tunog at masustain pag walang noise gate, kaso pag sobrang ingay naman nung patch wala rin silbi...

di rin naman ako expert pagdating sa mga effects, pero ganung settings yung nag-wwork saken...ang alam ko yung threshold yung pag ganun na kahina yung tunog, gagana na ung noise gate...yung release naman yung kung gano sya katagal sumipa or gumana pag andun na sa threshold yung tunog... zero ang release ko kasi gusto ko pag narating yung threshold pasok na agad yung noise gate...ewan ko kung tama pagkaka-intindi ko, pero ok naman result saken... 

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Re: Boss GT10 users thread
« Reply #1234 on: July 05, 2010, 01:53:59 PM »
@rackidooles

very nice input sir, so talagang dapat maximize ko yung mga patches ko for different applications. since i dont know what is it im going to use for a certain venue. sir if you are using your amp do you also use the amplifiers other channels to mix with the boss gt-10 or just the clean channels? if using just the clean channel, it means i dont have to use the cabinets of gt10. currently im studying the 4 cable method, but if its direct to the PA will send return sound automatically on the speakers on the venue with just one cable?sorry noob questions. :)

@poink27

nice info sir, well so i guess that makes how important noiseless pickups are :) so humming isnt really out of the picture even with an S-->H effect on gt-10 unless of course i have to adjust some settings..well its really nice to have an SSH guitar.

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« Reply #1235 on: July 05, 2010, 02:48:53 PM »

@poink27

nice info sir, well so i guess that makes how important noiseless pickups are :) so humming isnt really out of the picture even with an S-->H effect on gt-10 unless of course i have to adjust some settings..well its really nice to have an SSH guitar.


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« Reply #1236 on: July 05, 2010, 03:48:52 PM »
@24242009

Pwede ka mag-switch from physical amp and PA system Using the CTL1 and CTL2.  Example, left Output Mono mo sa front ng physical amp then the right output sa PA system. Then set your CTL2 to switch from Channel 1 to channel 2 and back.  Then set your CTL1 as footswitch of your physical amp syempre connect ka ng cable from AMP CONTROL ng GT10 to footswitch input ng physical amp.

@raik

Actually sir you can save up to 400 patches sa GT10 if you are going to use 1 channel per patch.  Since there are 2 channels per patch at pwede ka mag switch ng channels e di times 2 yun di ba. so 400 patches. Kasi you can make 8 patches in 1 bank.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 03:50:14 PM by Gerrit »

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« Reply #1237 on: July 06, 2010, 06:28:03 AM »
@24242009

Pwede ka mag-switch from physical amp and PA system Using the CTL1 and CTL2.  Example, left Output Mono mo sa front ng physical amp then the right output sa PA system. Then set your CTL2 to switch from Channel 1 to channel 2 and back.  Then set your CTL1 as footswitch of your physical amp syempre connect ka ng cable from AMP CONTROL ng GT10 to footswitch input ng physical amp.

@raik

Actually sir you can save up to 400 patches sa GT10 if you are going to use 1 channel per patch.  Since there are 2 channels per patch at pwede ka mag switch ng channels e di times 2 yun di ba. so 400 patches. Kasi you can make 8 patches in 1 bank.

Thank you sir, that was very informative and you also helped me solve my problem. that is a very good suggestion.. :)

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« Reply #1238 on: July 21, 2010, 06:56:29 AM »
Hello guys  :-D
Nice to see you're all still around and don't worry I still loving my GT1 8-)
Di lng me maka adjust kc nasa abroad si misis eh  :cry:
but i'm still around  :lol:

BTW i'm gonna sell my Harmonic Converger if someone love the original for 9k kahit lugi hi hi... coz i'm using my DEC just as is and i love it kc personal hand made and perfectly as HC  :lol:

Just google what's Harmonic Converger is to those not familiar with it and search the Harmonic Converger thread or search this long thread to read and find out what is DEC then PM me, hirap din kc mag explain mga comrade hihi. I currently have 2 DEC unit made for those interested and selling it for 2.7k plus 150 for LBC. here's my number 09175241312.

Keep on rockin with our GT1 :-)

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« Reply #1239 on: July 27, 2010, 09:00:39 PM »
Hello guys  :-D
Nice to see you're all still around and don't worry I still loving my GT1 8-)
Di lng me maka adjust kc nasa abroad si misis eh  :cry:
but i'm still around  :lol:

BTW i'm gonna sell my Harmonic Converger if someone love the original for 9k kahit lugi hi hi... coz i'm using my DEC just as is and i love it kc personal hand made and perfectly as HC  :lol:

Just google what's Harmonic Converger is to those not familiar with it and search the Harmonic Converger thread or search this long thread to read and find out what is DEC then PM me, hirap din kc mag explain mga comrade hihi. I currently have 2 DEC unit made for those interested and selling it for 2.7k plus 150 for LBC. here's my number 09175241312.

Keep on rockin with our GT1 :-)


Hi comrade roger nice to hear from you again.

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« Reply #1240 on: July 29, 2010, 09:48:11 PM »
Hi comrade roger nice to hear from you again.

Hi comrade Gerrit, i'm back and GT10 is alive once more thanks :-D

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« Reply #1241 on: July 29, 2010, 11:03:56 PM »
i was supposed to sell mine but i dont know bakit hindi ko sya mabenta mabenta hehhe laging retracted..its just everyday may nadidiscover ako,though love the tube screamer with turning off the noise gate :-)

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« Reply #1242 on: July 30, 2010, 02:46:58 AM »
nice to hear from you again roger yu

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« Reply #1243 on: July 30, 2010, 08:02:28 AM »
Nice to hear too Raiki  :-) To all I can't say anything better much more but I love my GT10  :wink:. And thats stay with me forever and I know and for sure I may have another units to comes still IT WILL stay and remain until the end  :-D :-D :-)

Keep on rockin dude  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #1244 on: July 30, 2010, 01:19:02 PM »
Nice to hear too Raiki  :-) To all I can't say anything better much more but I love my GT10  :wink:. And thats stay with me forever and I know and for sure I may have another units to comes still IT WILL stay and remain until the end  :-D :-D :-)

Keep on rockin dude  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #1245 on: July 30, 2010, 03:26:51 PM »
Nice to hear too Raiki  :-) To all I can't say anything better much more but I love my GT10  :wink:. And thats stay with me forever and I know and for sure I may have another units to comes still IT WILL stay and remain until the end  :-D :-D :-)

Keep on rockin dude  :mrgreen:

Rock and roll with GT10  8-)

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« Reply #1246 on: July 30, 2010, 03:33:58 PM »
Nice to hear too Raiki  :-) To all I can't say anything better much more but I love my GT10  :wink:. And thats stay with me forever and I know and for sure I may have another units to comes still IT WILL stay and remain until the end  :-D :-D :-)

Keep on rockin dude  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #1247 on: July 30, 2010, 08:53:10 PM »
.    Hmmmm.... I smell AxeFX in the air...

Malabo pareng Errol, Mahal AxeFx tax magpasok sa England galing Germany sabi ni misis eh.  :cry: plus price niya maghihirap tayo hi hi. Right now Im very much satified naman with GT10 lalong inspire ako last practice namin...Dami ko napapalabas na heavy sounds and even blues and brown lng   :lol: Parang gusto ko na bitawan mga analog ko but handy sila even with Dr boogey lng and dod equalizer plus rebote delay sarap na at nasa kamay din pareng errol eh. Lalo na imprumptu gig or invitation two to three songs lng, nakakahiya din magbitbit ng mahaba baka sabihin bragging ba sa ibang band if you get what i meant. Anyway GT10 is there all I need in digital department of course with our DEC  :wink:   

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« Reply #1248 on: July 31, 2010, 12:25:58 AM »
............Anyway GT10 is there all I need in digital department of course with our DEC  :wink:   

Mismo comrade roger

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« Reply #1249 on: July 31, 2010, 05:53:56 AM »
Mismo comrade roger

Hey comrade Gerrit  :-D Cool, i know you're enjoying too. Wala ng sexy iba pa and stopped my GAS syndrome for GT10. Married with it and play happily ever after. Hi hi.