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Offline astralasukal

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Re: The word "Rakista"
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2009, 09:09:52 PM »
ewan ko lang sa inyo guys, pero I'm proud na tinatawag akong Rakista. tama si kuya, Rakista ay ang tagalog term for Rocker.

Kung hindi kayo rakista, ano tawag sa inyo? Posers? Emo? Punkista? Bandista? Musikero? Well, mas nahihiya nga akong tinatawag akong musikero kasi wala naman akong formal lessons sa instruments ko. para bang mas higher level pag tinawag kang Musikero.


Isa pa, bakit naman squatter term un?

so ano tawag mo sa mga bandang nakalista dito? hindi Rakista? So squatters lang ang tumawag sa kanila nito? hai.... sorry sa aggressiveness guys. I just can't stand that some guys don't know what the word "Rakista" means. You should be happy whenever you are called one unless you really are posers. :D

peace up bros.

I'm just telling my opinions, kasi ako masaya ako na tawaging Rakista.


Emphasis on the underlined sentence. It's a matter of being typecasted as a "rocker" or rakista.  Hindi naman pwede ang sabi mo pare, na kapag hindi ko gusto ang tawagin akong rakista eh poser na ko. Hindi ko alam sayo pero I think for everyone else it's really offending to be stereotyped. Can you give us a more in depth definition of a poser please?

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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2009, 09:23:30 PM »

Emphasis on the underlined sentence. It's a matter of being typecasted as a "rocker" or rakista.  Hindi naman pwede ang sabi mo pare, na kapag hindi ko gusto ang tawagin akong rakista eh poser na ko. Hindi ko alam sayo pero I think for everyone else it's really offending to be stereotyped. Can you give us a more in depth definition of a poser please?


every person has his/her own meaning of poser.
you could be a musician or a poser to some people.
depende sa paningin ng tao sayo.
youd be lucky enough if no one called you a poser.
but yes maybe a person or two ay pwede kang tawaging poser.
but it's because each one of us has a certain definition for it.

@ knightmiklotov
yes it's really offending to be stereotyped
plus purkit ayaw ko nang tawagin akong rakista doesn't make me a poser that instant.
i mean a lot of people would call you rocker/rakista pero the fact is that most people who tell you that don't know a thing therefore using the most common term for a guy/girl who is in a band.

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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2009, 09:26:11 PM »
Ako hindi, pero maooffend ako pag sinabihan akong emo.

Peace! :D
true true bro.
parang eto na kasi ang nagiging next term para sa mga taong mahilig magbanda o makinig ng rock.
i mean come to think of it.
i'm a metalhead and yet they call me emo.
thats quite offending...

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Re: The word "Rakista"
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2009, 11:22:03 PM »

buti na lang manicurista ako.
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2009, 12:35:28 AM »
true true bro.
parang eto na kasi ang nagiging next term para sa mga taong mahilig magbanda o makinig ng rock.
i mean come to think of it.
i'm a metalhead and yet they call me emo.
thats quite offending...

Tama sir!

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Re: The word "Rakista"
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2009, 01:31:55 PM »
I know !! I know !!

batang combo po !!, ako po ay isang batang combo !!  :-D
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Re: The word "Rakista"
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2009, 02:42:15 PM »
Don't be hatin' homies! This ain't a hate thread! Lolz!
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2009, 05:32:36 PM »
the term  'rakista' minsan ay parang nakakabadtrip pakinggan kasi parang sobrang 'commercialized' yung term. Nagiging selling point na ng mga negosyante hehe. It's a catch-all term para madefine at ma-profile ang isang target market. Effective talaga lalo na kung nagbebenta ka ng damit at 'rakista' fashion accessories. Ang mga true-blue 'rockers' ay nababanas sa salitang ito dahil ito ay isang manipestasyon na may mga pwersa na pilit na ginagawang  sobrang mainstream at domestic ang  konsepto ng 'rocker' na nagsimula naman talaga bilang counter-culture noong dekada 60-70's , tuloy napaghahalo ng madla lalo na ng kabataan ang 'pa-cute' boyband-teenie-bopper attitude at ang rocker culture. Ang resulta --- isang nakakabadtrip na hybrid  -- RAKISTA. Naiinis ang mga tunay na 'rock musicians' kasi nasasama sila sa isang label na sya ring tawag sa mga pa-cute at nag-ro-rocker-rockeran na mga kabataan.



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Re: The word "Rakista"
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2009, 08:31:18 PM »
Ang salitang rakista ay nababagay sa mga batang kakamulat lang sa rock music at kasalukuyang naadik dito at naging malaking impluwensya ito sakanila. Tapos magdadamit na sila ng puro itim at maguugaling rocker at makikipagslamman sa mga tugtugan. hehe

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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2009, 12:40:20 AM »
andito yung mga rightful owners ng word na yan

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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2009, 03:02:45 AM »
BWAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAH! grabe pare, napatawa mo ako

read again


tagaUP pa man din ako at pinag-isipan ko pa yun sir ha. haha! it turned out mali din pla yun..

anyway, namulat ako sa mga views niyo. kasi all i thought ay, ang Rakista ay tagalog lang ng Rocker. simple lang kasi pagkaintindi ko. di ko inisip ang ibang interpretations. hehe. salamat sa inyo.
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Re: The word "Rakista"
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2009, 03:40:20 AM »
tagaUP pa man din ako at pinag-isipan ko pa yun sir ha. haha! it turned out mali din pla yun..

anyway, namulat ako sa mga views niyo. kasi all i thought ay, ang Rakista ay tagalog lang ng Rocker. simple lang kasi pagkaintindi ko. di ko inisip ang ibang interpretations. hehe. salamat sa inyo.

lol...wag mo ko tawagin sir nak ng pateng di ako propesor mo  :lol:

in-explain ko lang kung ano ang view ng ibang tao kasama na ako na hindi umaayon sa katagang "rakista"...

sa totoo lang, una kong narinig yang word na yan nung college ako...that was 5 years ago...tapos hindi pa sya kalat na term...pero ngayon kahit nagtitinda ng balot at tukneneng sa labas ng building namin eh rakista na ang tawag sakin...di ko na pansin dahil sobrang normal na nga...yung mga kaofis ko, rakista din ang bansag sakin..pero nawiwindang sila pag naririnig nila minsan sa headset ko na rnb ang pinapakinggan ko...minsan mas malala pa, jazz, soul...o kaya...avant garde!  :lol:
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Re: The word "Rakista"
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2009, 07:05:26 AM »

kung nag dadrayb ka nang jeepney, drayber ang tawag sa iyo hindi labandero

kung nag bebass ka sa banda, bahista ang tawag sayo hindi pilot

kung gumigitara ka sa banda, gitarista ang tawag sayo hindi basurero.


plain and simple, kung nakikinig ka at mahilig sa rock, rakista ang tawag sa yo.

so why the hell would I be offended by being called one because its exactly what its called heheheheheheeehe

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walang poser poser sa rock. may kanya kanyang levels of eliticism mga tao eh..... music is not something sacred that a chosen few can only enjoy. everyone has the right to like and enjoy music to his or her own way and interpretation.

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Offline astralasukal

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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2009, 01:07:29 PM »
kung nag dadrayb ka nang jeepney, drayber ang tawag sa iyo hindi labandero

kung nag bebass ka sa banda, bahista ang tawag sayo hindi pilot

kung gumigitara ka sa banda, gitarista ang tawag sayo hindi basurero.


plain and simple, kung nakikinig ka at mahilig sa rock, rakista ang tawag sa yo.

so why the hell would I be offended by being called one because its exactly what its called heheheheheheeehe

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walang poser poser sa rock. may kanya kanyang levels of eliticism mga tao eh..... music is not something sacred that a chosen few can only enjoy. everyone has the right to like and enjoy music to his or her own way and interpretation.

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buti na lang manicurista ako. heheehehe



What if for example gumigitara ka at the same time basurero ka rin? It really doesn't make sense what you did there.

There is such things as posers in anything, people will try to fit in and will not be themselves. I'm sure most of us encountered someone wearing Vans shoes and a Pantera shirt and they're not in a way involved with that kind of music.
Posers exist in rock music. I don't have a problem with people listening to music I don't like, but I have a problem with people who pretends just for the sake of being called a "rakista".

It's stereotyping that I hate, but then again who cares.

edit: Hindi ko sinasabing poser ang isang tao sa pagtingin lang, kakausapin ko muna sila
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2009, 07:18:08 PM »

What if for example gumigitara ka at the same time basurero ka rin? It really doesn't make sense what you did there.

There is such things as posers in anything, people will try to fit in and will not be themselves. I'm sure most of us encountered someone wearing Vans shoes and a Pantera shirt and they're not in a way involved with that kind of music.
Posers exist in rock music. I don't have a problem with people listening to music I don't like, but I have a problem with people who pretends just for the sake of being called a "rakista".

It's stereotyping that I hate, but then again who cares.

edit: Hindi ko sinasabing poser ang isang tao sa pagtingin lang, kakausapin ko muna sila

ang tawag dyan bro, gitarista na basurero.

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so does that mean i do not have the right to wear a Dillinger Escape Plan tshirt to a gig because i do not even know what the hell that band is?

wearing a band shirt is not a summary statement of a persons musical taste. my dad wears my pantera shirts to work, and it certainly does not make him a poser.... he wears it because he feels comfortable wearing it.

yun nga eh, rakista has its stereotypes. its just a label, they way we label a pickup a pickup, a truck a truck, and a sedan a sedan.

in analogy

A pickup the size of a sedan with small wheels should be called a poser car then?  :-D

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my point sir is that music is nothing based on what you wear, what you know, and all the high and mighty going on in the music scene pissing on the posers and the kids.

we shouldn't care about the kids wearing makeup and dancing to Fall Out Boy while wearing Sepultura shirts.

they're having fun. its what makes them happy. we should respect them because for them it defines who they are as an individual and in a democratic free country like the Philippines, each of us is entitled to do so.

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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2009, 08:51:23 PM »
Mas mabuti nga sana kung tawagin akong rakista eh, madalas tinatawag sakin Ma'am, Madam, dahil sa haba ng buhok ko, shet sila.

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Re: The word "Rakista"
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2009, 10:18:37 PM »
ang tawag dyan bro, gitarista na basurero.

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so does that mean i do not have the right to wear a Dillinger Escape Plan tshirt to a gig because i do not even know what the hell that band is?

wearing a band shirt is not a summary statement of a persons musical taste. my dad wears my pantera shirts to work, and it certainly does not make him a poser.... he wears it because he feels comfortable wearing it.

yun nga eh, rakista has its stereotypes. its just a label, they way we label a pickup a pickup, a truck a truck, and a sedan a sedan.

in analogy

A pickup the size of a sedan with small wheels should be called a poser car then?  :-D

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my point sir is that music is nothing based on what you wear, what you know, and all the high and mighty going on in the music scene pissing on the posers and the kids.

we shouldn't care about the kids wearing makeup and dancing to Fall Out Boy while wearing Sepultura shirts.

they're having fun. its what makes them happy. we should respect them because for them it defines who they are as an individual and in a democratic free country like the Philippines, each of us is entitled to do so.

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I'm not dissing anyone, what's democracy got to do with this? So with that logic I'm also "entitled" to be offended kapag may tumawag sa akin ng rakista?Tama ba? Entitled din ako to voice out my opinion about posers. It makes me happy.

They are annoying pretentious people, posers. People have every right to wear what the eff they wanna wear but it does sometimes make them look stupid.

In the case of your Dad wearing that Pantera shirt, kaparehong kaso niyan ng nakasabay ko sa palengke na nanay na naka Cradle of Filth na shirt. But then again, baka nakikinig nga si ate ng Cradle of Filth kahit sa age niya na yun. I don't identify posers as I see them, kinakausap ko then I will know.


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« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2009, 11:11:32 AM »
classic saying yan lahat: do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.

then proceed from there.

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« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2009, 11:22:01 AM »
classic saying yan lahat: do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.

then proceed from there.

lol fiction ito sa moralidad sa internet

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« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2009, 01:20:15 PM »
now lets break this down based from your answers.

I'm not dissing anyone -

read back and you just dissed the posers. Which you defined as -- >"I'm sure most of us encountered someone wearing Vans shoes and a Pantera shirt and they're not in a way involved with that kind of music."

Diss - To show disrespect to, often by insult or criticism (Dictionary.com)

Anyone - Usage Note: The one-word form anyone is used to mean "any person." The two-word form any one is used to mean "whatever one (person or thing) of a group. (Dictionary.com)

basically you dissed posers, so it invalidates your sentence indicating not dissing anyone.

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They are annoying pretentious people, posers. People have every right to wear what the eff they wanna wear but it does sometimes make them look stupid.


Define stupid wearing. In the 50's, wearing shorts was stupid. In the 80's the mullet was cool, nowadays its stupid to wear. Stupid is as subjective as it can go and it morphs with every music generation that passess.

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In the case of your Dad wearing that Pantera shirt, kaparehong kaso niyan ng nakasabay ko sa palengke na nanay na naka Cradle of Filth na shirt. But then again, baka nakikinig nga si ate ng Cradle of Filth kahit sa age niya na yun. I don't identify posers as I see them, kinakausap ko then I will know.


You just ate what you said.

Case in point your statement :

There is such things as posers in anything, people will try to fit in and will not be themselves. I'm sure most of us encountered someone wearing Vans shoes and a Pantera shirt and they're not in a way involved with that kind of music.


highly debatable, but thats in a way a defensive mechanism to say that "I will ask someone before I make a judgement"

thats fine with the daily routine of life.... what about in a gig with 20,000 people?
do you need to ask each and everyone at the gate?

so why all the alta-presyon with the posers, when in context, you define everyone like example... my dad as a poser based on his AGE and shirt prefence? so you just said, without asking and in correct linear context of the paragraph, that you ajudged my dad to be a poser because his shirt does not match his age by idea alone?  :-D :-D


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dude my point is simple.

the music scene of the Philippines is crapping on itself because we have elitists everywhere.... the high and mighty who think their music should be only availble to the chosen few ears.

The "posers" deserve a right of the musical pie so-to-speak.

classic saying yan lahat: do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.

then proceed from there.

and this is FTW.

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« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2009, 01:29:30 PM »
iwanan mo na yang banda mo at mag lawyer ka na lang
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« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2009, 01:33:07 PM »
and to end my arguement on the Rakista issue......

When you get old enough and gain enough experience in the music scene you realize its a great marketing hype to label something. It clearly identifies a target audience. The mere fact there is a standing debate here about the word "Rakista" furthers the marketing concept of the word.

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« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2009, 01:35:05 PM »
and to end my arguement on the Rakista issue......

When you get old enough and gain enough experience in the music scene you realize its a great marketing hype to label something. It clearly identifies a target audience. The mere fact there is a standing debate here about the word "Rakista" furthers the marketing concept of the word.

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Thats what many Filipinos are good at (me included).

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« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2009, 02:05:54 PM »
Eh kasi nga cool ang mang-diss. Kayo naman oh. Sanayan lang. Dapat lagi daw merong hierarchy, para masaya. :lol:
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« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2009, 02:17:14 PM »
astralasukal check mo crytopsy ng canada, isa sa innovators ng death metal, 10+ years nilang tugtugan yan, malaki respeto sa kanila ng metal community tapos, ngayon iniba nila tugtugan nila sa deathcore na.. irony dahil mga banda ngayon na deathcore e ang isa sa pinaka impluwensya nila sa musika nila ay ang cryptopsy, kaya kahit sa mga totoong rockers may mga.. hindi totoo, ngayon branded sila na sellouts ng mga lumang fans nila

madami din diyan mga nasa ibang banda na kahit hindi nila gusto tugtugan para sa pera
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