Snare Wire/Buzz/Bed thread

[glynminded]

If you ask me I think the snare buzzing can be used to your advantage... If you tune your toms far enough from the tuning of the snare it will still buzz but very minimal... more lang a small crack sound... same goes for the bass drum... I think it's advantageous by the fact that the added "crack" to each stroke of your toms or bass drum can make your sound unique... Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this is one factor that makes Thomas Lang's bass drum sound different.... but still it's all up to your preferences....

[Akira JUMBO]

@glynminded..

good point bro, it's a good way to look at it.. pero how could it be unique when most drummers do try to eliminate the buzz therefore there are more drums out there with buzz' than with out..

siguro Thomas lang is unique in terms of his level since most drummers of that caliber has perfected the buzz treatment and since he chooses to dwell with it,unique sya 

[glynminded]

@glynminded..

good point bro, it's a good way to look at it.. pero how could it be unique when most drummers do try to eliminate the buzz therefore there are more drums out there with buzz' than with out..

siguro Thomas lang is unique in terms of his level since most drummers of that caliber has perfected the buzz treatment and since he chooses to dwell with it,unique sya 

sa bagay ahahaha... dati rin sinusubukan ko tanggalin ung buzzing eh... pero I realized everytime I turn off the snares.... nung pag hit ko ng bass drum *dug!* sabi ko sa sarili ko... "?!!! un na un?! parang walang buhay!" I felt like I like the bass drum with the crack sound better so ayun... I've eperimented with the tunings a lot and I came up with an almost satisfactory sound of my drums playing with the buzz... I have two snares so more crack! ehehehe...

[drumster]

I always believe that snare buzzes are natural.  All snare drums produce snare buzzes.  I think it's just a matter of lessening the buzz, in case it becomes too much or too annoying or too distracting.

Like what I shared on past EBs, what I do to minimize the buzz is to detune the four tension rods adjacent to the snare wires.  It works for me most of the time.

A quality snare-side drumhead may help too.

I also agree with what bro glynminded said.  We can use the snare buzz to our advantage.  Personally, I don't really crank my snare wires to super-tight settings.  It chokes the drum.  I like my snare drums to have some "breathing space".  And I also like to hear the snares "rattle" during live situations.  In my experience, it really sounds better live.  The buzz also somehow gives more "life" to the overall drumset sounds.  It does give a livelier ambience.

[nO RLY]

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I also agree with what bro glynminded said.  We can use the snare buzz to our advantage.  Personally, I don't really crank my snare wires to super-tight settings.  It chokes the drum.

i agree with this.

..or mahigpit yung wires mo..

I think its the other way around? The looser the wires the more they vibrate therefore snare buzz..the tighter the wires gives more crack but somewhat lessens the buzz..

sa wires ko kasi, ginagawa ko dun sobrang luwag. sobrang luwag na sobrang kaunti lang yung buzz na nakukuha kung pinapalo ko yung toms. but i understand na kung medyo maluwag yung wires, malakas talaga yung buzz niya.

[kibohead]

try buying muffler rings or external tone controller...okz yun to remove the "buzz".

[wax_static]

i think, snare buzz is not that "annoying" that it needs to be eliminated... like peeves said buzzing will always be present... you'll learn to get along with it and who knows you might eventually like it. besides snare buzz is quite negligible when you're playing with your band.
I for myself have no problems with it. Furthermore tightening the snare is not really a good practice, like sir Dio said... it will choke the sound out of your snaredrum, for me I set my snare loose but tight enough just to make contact with the resonant side.... try to experiment with the tension of your snare

[s2ry0fdyr]

I never had problems with toms creating snare buzz but everytime I hit the bass drum my snare buzzs.. it is so annoying'..

Whats the cure for this??

[AlienHipHop38]

yeah major frustrations talaga yan... nung narinig ko kay Mike Portnoy na panay singles "daw" ginagawa nya,di ako naniwala lalo na ung tinugtog nla ung Overture sa SDOIT... May buzz roll section.

Advice ng friend ko.... Practice dw,doubles... Pwede rin triplets kaso pahirapan... Slow the speed then up. ^_^

[drumster]

I never had problems with toms creating snare buzz but everytime I hit the bass drum my snare buzzs.. it is so annoying'..

Whats the cure for this??

I just merged the topic you opened with this snare buzz mother thread.  Browse first around Pinoydrums Forum before opening a topic.  Read the replies on this thread for ideas and solutions. 

yeah major frustrations talaga yan... nung narinig ko kay Mike Portnoy na panay singles "daw" ginagawa nya,di ako naniwala lalo na ung tinugtog nla ung Overture sa SDOIT... May buzz roll section.

Advice ng friend ko.... Practice dw,doubles... Pwede rin triplets kaso pahirapan... Slow the speed then up. ^_^

I believe the topic is referring to the potentially annoying snare drum buzz sound.  Not the buzz roll.

[AlienHipHop38]

I'm sorry! inaantok na ata ako. ^_^

[Tryq]

Meron po akong 14" na fernando piccolo snare...

ok lang ba kung 13" na snare wire ang gamitin?

thx!

[bassman88]

Hi! Share ko lang, saw this in the net, ang gandang reference kung bibili kayo. Meron jan yung tunog ng 42 strand generic snare wire, ang ganda ng tunog, napakafat, nagorder na ako kay sir wax_tastic sa drum classifieds http://www.malletjazz.com/snares/snarewires/

[numberfortyone]

What is the difference on the sound of your snare when replacing the OEM snare wire?
for example an OEM 20-strand to a branded 20-strand (e.g. puresound, gibraltar, other material, etc.)
or even switching to more strands / less strands of snare wires.

share your reviews! 

[jericho55]

meron po akong napapansin sa snare wire ko pag pinapalo ko po ang mga tom ko naingay yung snare wire minsan pag mag rorolling ako sa tom sobrang lkas ng tunug nung snare wire panu ko po matatangal yung ganung tunug help naman....

paghinihigpitan ko ng sobra nawawala ng konti..ang panget naman pag sobrang higpit..

pag nilolowagan ko naman ng sobra nawawala ang pangit naman ng tunug pag luwag ng sobra...

sonor 13x7 special edition po ang snare ko...

[peeves24]

natural lang yan. ibig sabihin magkatono yung snare mo at isa o marami sa mga tom mo kaya lumalakas ng husto yung symphathetic buzz.

e yung 13x7 na snare mo kasing laki pa ng isang normal tom kaya itono mo ng mas mataas o mas mababa sa lahat ng mga toms mo.

[jericho55]

ahhh normal lang pala yun,, pero pede po bung maalis yun tataasan ko lang po ang tono nung snare ko??

[jericho55]

ang tom ku nga pala ay 10 12 yung sa 12 po ang malakas tumunug...edi pag nakamic sobrang lakas pu nung tunug nung snare wire

[daleee]

pag itotono mo yung snare mo, make sure na mas mataas siya sa highest tom mo, or ibang note dapat ang tunog niya compared sa toms mo...

[jake z]

put some tape.. o kya search mo sa youtube yung ky bob gatzen .. eliminating snare buzz... helpfull yun

[gido]

di naman maiwasan ung buzz sa snare.. kahit magsalita ka mapit sa snare mag buuz pa din un. kung gusto mong mawala ng buzz maglagay ka nalang ng basahan sa ilalim ng snare mo.

[Muzickero]

i have a problem with the snare wire din po. . .bukod sa nagbubuzz sya pag pinapalo yung mga toms, parang sabog pa yung tunog nung snare. . .yung snare po is 14 x 6 na yamaha gigmaker lang po. . .medyo ok pa sya when i was still using the original yamaha batterhead, pero when i changed it to remo emperor x pumanget lalo tunog. . .help nmn po kung ano pwede gawin

[vhinming]

ang payo ni bob gatzen (based sa napanood ko sa youtube) mas konti ang snarebuzz pag konti ang snarewire, nag trim xa ng 2 each side, and ok nga, pero ayoko mabawasan yung snare wires ko kaya ang ginawa ko, kumuha ako ng tape nilagyan ko ng tissue (parang magiging band aid yun, then idikit mo parallel sa snare wires (patakip), wag maxado tight dahil mamu-mute na, yung tamang sikip lang, try mo, effective kahit di maxado maganda tingnan, ayusin mo nalang yung paglagay (pag tiklop ng maayos sa tissue)

sana nakatulong ^_^

[bangbus]

proper head tuning (both sides) and applying some snare buzz muffling techniques (a lot online, search for em). 

[Muzickero]

ang payo ni bob gatzen (based sa napanood ko sa youtube) mas konti ang snarebuzz pag konti ang snarewire, nag trim xa ng 2 each side, and ok nga, pero ayoko mabawasan yung snare wires ko kaya ang ginawa ko, kumuha ako ng tape nilagyan ko ng tissue (parang magiging band aid yun, then idikit mo parallel sa snare wires (patakip), wag maxado tight dahil mamu-mute na, yung tamang sikip lang, try mo, effective kahit di maxado maganda tingnan, ayusin mo nalang yung paglagay (pag tiklop ng maayos sa tissue)

sana nakatulong ^_^

thanks po. . .cge try ko to