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Pierrot

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Tips on how to learn jazz
« on: June 08, 2007, 02:02:59 PM »
Im a shredder (obviously speed is the staple skill), but i wanna learn how to do jazz phrasing ksi jazzmen are way more phrasing skilled than us shredders, can you guyz suggest where and how i can learn jazz elements? any help is very appreciated.

Offline brianb

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2007, 02:55:24 PM »
You can start w/ downloading Aebersold's free jazz handbook: http://tinyurl.com/cnqdf

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2007, 03:43:05 PM »
starters..hmmm, cguro babad muna listening to jazz, hanapin mo kung san ka comfortable, kung bebop, swing, fusion, o free-jazz, pwede rin 'tupank - jazz'-ask sir aya yuson he cn teach u tupanks(jke).. share ko lng..  :-D

ich bin in der Liebe mit der "tupank" Art! Tupank Richtlinien.

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2007, 08:57:22 AM »
my pag ka german ka pala sir!!!hehe


listen ,listen and listen..walang silbi buks pag di mo gamay lalo na swing feel!  :-D




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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2007, 07:29:05 PM »
..or try watching live jazz gigs, or even dvd's, basta absorb mo muna... or mag lesson ka kay sir aya yuson, para mismo! :-D


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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2007, 12:29:03 PM »
Thanks for the advice's, nga pla can you give me places kung san pwede makinig ng jazz bands, ung instrumental jazz po ha kung pwede on metro manila lng, as for the lesssons sa jazz, cant afford po eh,

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 02:30:22 PM »
starters..hmmm, cguro babad muna listening to jazz, hanapin mo kung san ka comfortable, kung bebop, swing, fusion, o free-jazz, pwede rin 'tupank - jazz'-ask sir aya yuson he cn teach u tupanks(jke).. share ko lng..  :-D

ich bin in der Liebe mit der "tupank" Art! Tupank Richtlinien.

let go some of your shredding stuff..not that na totally forget them, but set aside ung iba para maka entertain ka ng bago..ung theory ng, keeping the glass half full..

and yeah! LISTENING! LISTENING! LISTENING! LISTENING! LISTENING!
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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 02:39:22 PM »
Thanks for the advice's, nga pla can you give me places kung san pwede makinig ng jazz bands, ung instrumental jazz po ha kung pwede on metro manila lng, as for the lesssons sa jazz, cant afford po eh,

Check out the sticky thread: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,18954.0.html

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 10:34:03 PM »
Thanks for the advice's, nga pla can you give me places kung san pwede makinig ng jazz bands, ung instrumental jazz po ha kung pwede on metro manila lng, as for the lesssons sa jazz, cant afford po eh,

libre yung sa sofitel di ba?
5th manila jazz fest sa friday sa sofitel.  :-)
end is near. learn to swim.

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 10:35:04 PM »
Thanks for the advice's, nga pla can you give me places kung san pwede makinig ng jazz bands, ung instrumental jazz po ha kung pwede on metro manila lng, as for the lesssons sa jazz, cant afford po eh,

5th manila jazz fest sa friday sa sofitel.  :-)

libre yun di ba?   :-)
end is near. learn to swim.

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 11:58:07 PM »
Thanks for the advice's, nga pla can you give me places kung san pwede makinig ng jazz bands, ung instrumental jazz po ha kung pwede on metro manila lng, as for the lesssons sa jazz, cant afford po eh,

5th manila jazz fest sa friday sa sofitel.  :-)

libre yun di ba?   :-) wow any additional infos, tyrone? :-D

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 08:46:19 AM »
www.manilajazzfestival.org

not sure kung may bayad pero last time na nag attend ako ng manila jazzfest free admission.

yooohooo!!! heheheh! nice..pero boohoo!!!
layo sa akin..huhuhuhuhu!  :oops:
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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2007, 07:30:55 AM »
may mini jazzfest din sa penguin gallery. so after ng jazzfest sa sofitel pwede kayo magproceed to penguin cafe in malate kung kulang pa kayo sa jazz. malufet yung Frontmen at of course Affinity. haven't heard JFK (jazz for kicks) yet.  :-)

AFFINITY! booyaah!  :evil:
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  :-o
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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2007, 10:09:27 AM »
complete n, after meron p sa malate... :-D

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 10:21:17 PM »
swabe yun tomorrow night, sigurado....
end is near. learn to swim.

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2007, 03:10:18 PM »
Thanks for the advice's, nga pla can you give me places kung san pwede makinig ng jazz bands, ung instrumental jazz po ha kung pwede on metro manila lng, as for the lesssons sa jazz, cant afford po eh,

You can check out Skarlet in Chakik's every thursday - julia vargas sa may city golf. :)

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2007, 06:09:21 PM »
Jazz... it's not that i'm good at it already (i'm still learning) but to learn jazz you need to....

Read about jazz ( jazz books are hard to find here... it's either you go abroad or better yet, download ebooks  :lol:)

Listen to Jazz (listen intently... take note of each player's style and also take note of the differences of each type of jazz)

Play Jazz (this is the hard part specially if you are too young to have jazzaholic friends. if this is the case then you are probably  stuck (like me) with progheads(no offense.. i like prog too but, i wanna play jazz.. hehe), yngwie malmsteen worshippers, double peds fanatics and all those fast-paced action music lovers

 :-P

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2007, 06:35:44 PM »
there's nothing wrong with prog, i think jazz and prog has this tandem specially on fusion gnres.. allan holdsworth came from a prog. band nung 70's.. yngwie ok din, note choices nya ay the best compared sa ibang neo-classic players.. neoclassical pag tinugtog mo sa jazz, magiging gypsy jazz-sort of thing.. :-D

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2007, 07:38:54 PM »
OT:

I totally agree.. there is nothing wrong with prog. I myself am a bit of a prog fan. My point on my post is that the younger generation today tends to lean more on progressive rock than on jazz... So it really is harder for young lads like me to get to learn jazz since it is hard to find people our age who are in to jazz and are willing to play jazz.  :lol:

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2007, 01:19:37 PM »
tanong ko lang sa mga improv players... do u "think" while improvising a song. i mean whats on your mind while doing it?  kasi ako nahihirapn akong mag multi-task and yung conviction while playing! lalong lalo na kung may mga jazz "heavy weights" improv players around.. :) any tips
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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2007, 03:08:51 PM »
tanong ko lang sa mga improv players... do u "think" while improvising a song. i mean whats on your mind while doing it?  kasi ako nahihirapn akong mag multi-task and yung conviction while playing! lalong lalo na kung may mga jazz "heavy weights" improv players around.. :) any tips

hahahaha...bai, even i something tingles in my a** basta me mga giants eh..
remember pag tayo2 lang, all the ideas poop out pero pag me mga giants..its like..
FREEZE! heheeheheh! i second the motion, help mga sir..heheheehhe!

maybe the robert johnson myth might help..  :wink: hehehehe..
boss joric, i cant help it..heheehehe..  :-D
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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2007, 06:02:49 AM »
believe it or not i listen to jazz 16 hours a day, i'm just kinda hooked up with that lifestyle, masarap eh. so for me to learn jazz is to LISTEN!

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2007, 08:08:41 AM »
believe it or not i listen to jazz 16 hours a day, i'm just kinda hooked up with that lifestyle, masarap eh. so for me to learn jazz is to LISTEN!
good! i do that to 24 hours nga lng, always nka ipod..hehe :-D

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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2007, 06:49:34 PM »
tanong ko lang sa mga improv players... do u "think" while improvising a song. i mean whats on your mind while doing it?  kasi ako nahihirapn akong mag multi-task and yung conviction while playing! lalong lalo na kung may mga jazz "heavy weights" improv players around.. :) any tips

hahahaha...bai, even i something tingles in my a** basta me mga giants eh..
remember pag tayo2 lang, all the ideas poop out pero pag me mga giants..its like..
FREEZE! heheeheheh! i second the motion, help mga sir..heheheehhe!

maybe the robert johnson myth might help..  :wink: hehehehe..
boss joric, i cant help it..heheehehe..  :-D

u can achieve more from just being urself than thinking u're someone else u're not, some r technically fluent & more experienced than u, so what? u can only do what u can so make d most out of it. embrace d fact that u're urself, u'll feel better. feel what u're doing and start from there, listen and communicate with other musician too because that's one of d reason u're there. most important thing: GROOVE
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Re: Tips on how to learn jazz
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2007, 06:49:31 PM »
also one of the most import thing on learning jazz is to play with other musicians. so get out of ur practice room and play, communicate, listen and groove with other musicians! as soon as u get ur ego out of the way the sooner u'll be a better musician!

check this out!
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,53727.0.html
« Last Edit: July 26, 2007, 04:30:47 PM by william251082 »