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[Ralph_Petrucci]

Yung tone okay naman din sa taste ko.may nakita akong mga demo sa youtube.Mukang okay nga.kaso gano katagal na po sa inyo yang basix drum kit nyo? Ang concern ko din kasi yung durability ng mga lugs at yung shell. Yung mga made in china at taiwan kasi kalimitan yun ang issue.madaling bumigay ang lugs

I had my basix kit nung mga late 2009, early 2010. it's still mint today hahaha. I don't think that the lugs will be an issue kasi napakatight ko magtune pero wala parin akong problema.

ang problem mo is heads kasi pangit ang REMO UT. hahaha

di ako sure kung ganun parin presyo kasi di naman ako tagaLAZER hahahaha tawag or visit ka sa lazer to check on prices

[bulok]

I had my basix kit nung mga late 2009, early 2010. it's still mint today hahaha. I don't think that the lugs will be an issue kasi napakatight ko magtune pero wala parin akong problema.

ang problem mo is heads kasi pangit ang REMO UT. hahaha

di ako sure kung ganun parin presyo kasi di naman ako tagaLAZER hahahaha tawag or visit ka sa lazer to check on prices

Nakakaramdam na ako ng GAS ATTACK!
Salamat madami!

[Ralph_Petrucci]

Nakakaramdam na ako ng GAS ATTACK!
Salamat madami!

nice ahahahhaa! post pics papa ha pag nakabili ka! btw, the basix has a floating floor tom na rin so boom baby HAHAHAHAHA

[bulok]

nice ahahahhaa! post pics papa ha pag nakabili ka! btw, the basix has a floating floor tom na rin so boom baby HAHAHAHAHA

Bad news. Mukang wala ng basix drums sa lazer. Nagtanong ako sold out na daw then nagsearch ako sa net mukang drumcraft na yung pinalit ng gewamusic sa basix brand.
Sana mali lang ako ng akala

[Ralph_Petrucci]

Bad news. Mukang wala ng basix drums sa lazer. Nagtanong ako sold out na daw then nagsearch ako sa net mukang drumcraft na yung pinalit ng gewamusic sa basix brand.
Sana mali lang ako ng akala

at first glance, mukhang okay din si drumcraft. wala palang akong personal experience with playing them.

[bulok]

Onga mukang okay nga ang drumcraft kaso yung price nya parang bumili na din ako ng shell pack ng hyperdrive or brand new mapex drum set

[Ralph_Petrucci]

Onga mukang okay nga ang drumcraft kaso yung price nya parang bumili na din ako ng shell pack ng hyperdrive or brand new mapex drum set

awtsu. kung ganon, ipon nalang ng onti at mag HYPERDRIVE ka na! iba ang hyperdrive pramis <3

[gwapito]

anu po ang ok na electronic drums? budget ko po 30k

[harugrugrug]

anu po ang ok na electronic drums? budget ko po 30k

Paging mr. Ralph,hahaha,sorry man I'm a noob in edrums,hehe.wait for Ralph's reply

[sonicassault]

Paging mr. Ralph,hahaha,sorry man I'm a noob in edrums,hehe.wait for Ralph's reply

Huhulaan ko! Brand new or second hand na Medeli na kaya ng 30K mo, or pag may nag adik sale ng Roland TD-9 or higher 

[harugrugrug]

Huhulaan ko! Brand new or second hand na Medeli na kaya ng 30K mo, or pag may nag adik sale ng Roland TD-9 or higher 

Check natin yan bro,hehe,let's wait if you are correct! Haha,Tagal naman ralph

[Ralph_Petrucci]

Check natin yan bro,hehe,let's wait if you are correct! Haha,Tagal naman ralph

HAHAHAHAHA wow ha, hindei rin naman ako expert HARUG!


pero @gwapito, here are your options brother:

at 30k, you can afford a bnew MEDELI DD506. or a second hand roland. both are good and reliable pero eto ang quick pros and cons:

MEDELI

Pro: USB Ready (for VST Triggering), "real feel" rubber pads, cymbals are dual zone so pwede i choke, tska may bell. bass trigger is a bass practice pad so pwede ka magdouble pedal

Cons: wala masyadong replacement parts si medeli na available dito sa pinas so pag may nasira, boo hoo. walang pamalit


Roland (td-9, second hand):

Pro: parehas halos nung sa medeli.

Cons: second hand ang kaya ng price range mo. ako kasi, ayokong bumibili ng second hand edrums stuff kasi syempre, di mo alam kung pano yung inabuso. but hey, its a roland so it should be reliable.


in the end, ikaw pa rin yan papa. pero one thing's for sure, iwasan mo yung mga RINGWAY na kit. sobrang... dehins.

[sonicassault]

HAHAHAHAHA wow ha, hindei rin naman ako expert HARUG!


pero @gwapito, here are your options brother:

at 30k, you can afford a bnew MEDELI DD506. or a second hand roland. both are good and reliable pero eto ang quick pros and cons:

MEDELI

Pro: USB Ready (for VST Triggering), "real feel" rubber pads, cymbals are dual zone so pwede i choke, tska may bell. bass trigger is a bass practice pad so pwede ka magdouble pedal

Cons: wala masyadong replacement parts si medeli na available dito sa pinas so pag may nasira, boo hoo. walang pamalit


Roland (td-9, second hand):

Pro: parehas halos nung sa medeli.

Cons: second hand ang kaya ng price range mo. ako kasi, ayokong bumibili ng second hand edrums stuff kasi syempre, di mo alam kung pano yung inabuso. but hey, its a roland so it should be reliable.


in the end, ikaw pa rin yan papa. pero one thing's for sure, iwasan mo yung mga RINGWAY na kit. sobrang... dehins.

I am this close to trading my acoustic shells for pads because of triggering. Imagine, 3 mics to record a stereo kit!

[Ralph_Petrucci]

I am this close to trading my acoustic shells for pads because of triggering. Imagine, 3 mics to record a stereo kit!

well, not that great din bro because of the cymbal sounds mas okay pa kung ang set up:

Acoustic kit with DDRUM Drum Triggers
Going into a USB Drum Module
2 Overheads
Acoustic Cymbals

bale, the Overheads will capture the natural drum sound bleed, and the cymbals. pero the kit will be triggered via VSTi. para Natural sounding cymbals + consistent sounding drums and less hassle sa mic-ing.

[gwapito]

salamt mga sir, san po nakakabili ng brand new na Medeli DD506? anu po masasabi nyo sa yamaha dtx 400? which one is better po?

[sonicassault]

well, not that great din bro because of the cymbal sounds mas okay pa kung ang set up:

Acoustic kit with DDRUM Drum Triggers
Going into a USB Drum Module
2 Overheads
Acoustic Cymbals

bale, the Overheads will capture the natural drum sound bleed, and the cymbals. pero the kit will be triggered via VSTi. para Natural sounding cymbals + consistent sounding drums and less hassle sa mic-ing.

I was thinking
Drum Pads > Module > VSTi
Acoustic cymbals
Acoustic snare
2 overheads 1 snare mic

Di ko lang sure kung ano ang tunog ng tom/kick bleed dyan, kung impulse reverb or maglalagay ng amp for the drum sounds to be picked up by the mics.

In this vein, mas mahal ba bumili ng acoustic drum triggers + module/trigger I/O, or bili na lang ako ng secondhand na medeli?

salamt mga sir, san po nakakabili ng brand new na Medeli DD506? anu po masasabi nyo sa yamaha dtx 400? which one is better po?

The Music Source  I'm not fond of the Yamaha digitals. The stock samples sound like a karaoke kit, and the kit itself is uber expensive for what you get: crappy sounds, no expansions, limited dual zone capabilities. I'd still go for the Medeli.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

salamt mga sir, san po nakakabili ng brand new na Medeli DD506? anu po masasabi nyo sa yamaha dtx 400? which one is better po?

wala kasing USB capability si DTX400, so limited ka sa sounds. well, may midi naman pero mej hassle lang.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

I was thinking
Drum Pads > Module > VSTi
Acoustic cymbals
Acoustic snare
2 overheads 1 snare mic

Di ko lang sure kung ano ang tunog ng tom/kick bleed dyan, kung impulse reverb or maglalagay ng amp for the drum sounds to be picked up by the mics.

In this vein, mas mahal ba bumili ng acoustic drum triggers + module/trigger I/O, or bili na lang ako ng secondhand na medeli?

The Music Source  I'm not fond of the Yamaha digitals. The stock samples sound like a karaoke kit, and the kit itself is uber expensive for what you get: crappy sounds, no expansions, limited dual zone capabilities. I'd still go for the Medeli.

I don't think that setup will work kasi sa bleed ng over heads mo, maririnig yung TOK TOK ng pads. kaya i prefer acoustic Drum Triggers.

and yes. mas mahal kasi nasa 4k ang isang DDRUM drum Trigger. pwede ka rin naman gumawa


lastly, lahat ng digital kit tunog karaoke ang samples. even the rolands. kaya nga thanks to VSTi, we can trigger real drum sounds!

[peeves24]

  ganito?



di maririnig yung tok tok promise

[Ralph_Petrucci]

ganito?



di maririnig yung tok tok promise

PRAMIS PAPA PEEVES? :O shiyet! i must try this!

or siguro anlakas kasi ng input gain ng overheads ko :O

[sonicassault]

ganito?



di maririnig yung tok tok promise

sir Peeves!! I think it's time to sell my Yamaha Gigmaker shells 

may sample recording ka sir? 

[Ralph_Petrucci]

sir Peeves!! I think it's time to sell my Yamaha Gigmaker shells 

may sample recording ka sir? 

same reques bro peeves! baka pwedeng clips?

tska question, will it still be inaudible kahit large dia ang gamit  kong overhead?

ano yung gamit mong overhead mics bro? tska XY din?


sorry daming tanong

[peeves24]

eto yung isa sa mga songs nung setup na yan

stock sounds ng roland td-4 yung kick at toms recorded in stereo. alam ko nirecord ko sya with midi as well kaso sablay pa yung monitoring ko noon kaya kala ko ok na yung direct stereo sound nung td4


by the way, P.O.T. ang inspiration ko dyan. there are old videos posted by ian umali on youtube during the tracking sessions. naka ddrum si harley with acoustic cymbals and snare. check this out

t=79



ralph spaced pair ako. trip ko kasi yung wide sound noon. hanapin ko yung raw tracks mamaya pag uwi ko sa bahay para marinig mo yung overheads lang




eto pala mas raw, unmixed version to - https://soundcloud.com/lemdavidmusic/curly-hair-studio-version

[Ralph_Petrucci]

eto yung isa sa mga songs nung setup na yan

stock sounds ng roland td-4 yung kick at toms recorded in stereo. alam ko nirecord ko sya with midi as well kaso sablay pa yung monitoring ko noon kaya kala ko ok na yung direct stereo sound nung td4


by the way, P.O.T. ang inspiration ko dyan. there are old videos posted by ian umali on youtube during the tracking sessions. naka ddrum si harley with acoustic cymbals and snare. check this out

t=79



ralph spaced pair ako. trip ko kasi yung wide sound noon. hanapin ko yung raw tracks mamaya pag uwi ko sa bahay para marinig mo yung overheads lang




eto pala mas raw, unmixed version to - https://soundcloud.com/lemdavidmusic/curly-hair-studio-version

bro peeves, small diaphragm condensers tapos spaced micing?

mag work kaya sa Large Dia? yun kasi plano ko dalawang large diaphragn or dalawang SM57 siguro... or should I get a smal/pencil type condenser na?

[peeves24]

LDC vs SDC not sure pre kasi parang apols and orenges e. yung old SDC (behringer c2) ko sounds thin and not as sensitive as my LDC (mxl v67g). my LDC captures more lows and much defined mids. yun lang, hindi kasi sila parehong quality kaya hindi maganda icompare.

mag wowork yung LDC as overheads pre pero bili ka nung pinakamahal na kaya mo. o kaya hanap ka na lang 2nd hand.

for practicality, get SDC. mabigat kasi yung LDC kaya medyo mahirap iposition ng tama lalo na kung nagtipid ka sa mic stand. tapos kailangan mo pa ng isolation mount sa LDC e medyo mahal din yung mount.