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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2006, 11:23:03 PM »
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I'm still searching for that acoustic tone I want. I'm looking for that 70's folk-rocky tone reminiscent of James Taylor, Jim Croce and Don McLean. The kinda tone that puts you in the middle of a forest at the crack of dawn, when the air is so fresh it's almost like dewdrops at the back of your mouth.

I'd like to own a nice Martin D-28 and an OM model with the slotted peghead, oh yeah, and a D'Aquisto Teardrop guitar.


I also like James taylors sound.... right now he is using olsons (expensive!!!)

Im not a fan of the new d28, bitin sa boom for a dread... ive had one, but sold it after 2mos... replaced it w/ a d41- laking bagay yun scalloped bracing lalo na kung forward shifted pa like the v,41 specials, 42 and 45 series....

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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2006, 11:23:20 PM »
uy doc farseer, kumusta yung mga acoustic mo? the best talaga yung santa cruz mo eh, di ba medyo arched yung top nya?

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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2006, 11:25:34 PM »
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anyone here used brass bridgepins na? how are they? i'm looking to buy some.


i had them on my old larrivee L05- di ko na feel yun difference from the stock pins...

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« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2006, 11:26:18 PM »
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interesting... do you think that "slight" increase in brightness with the use of brass pins be helpful enough to a cheap dreadnought size acoustic?


nope

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« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2006, 11:28:38 PM »
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anyone here used brass bridgepins na? how are they? i'm looking to buy some.


i had them on my old larrivee L05- di ko na feel yun difference from the stock pins...


ah talaga? hmmm... well siguro if not for the slightest improvement sa tone, siguro for aesthetics nalang, hehe.

how much benta mo sa d-28? nakakausap mo pa si sir glen angeles? diba may shenandoah d-35 sha? grabe gusto ko din sana yun eh, hehe. pero alam ko laminated back/sides ang mga shenandoah.


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« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2006, 11:31:41 PM »
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uy doc farseer, kumusta yung mga acoustic mo? the best talaga yung santa cruz mo eh, di ba medyo arched yung top nya?

nope, di arched yun... it has great balance... galing ng pagka voice, lightly built kaya feather weight, but i prefer the boominess and pressence of the martin d41 :D
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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2006, 11:34:02 PM »
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anyone here used brass bridgepins na? how are they? i'm looking to buy some.


i had them on my old larrivee L05- di ko na feel yun difference from the stock pins...


ah talaga? hmmm... well siguro if not for the slightest improvement sa tone, siguro for aesthetics nalang, hehe.

how much benta mo sa d-28? nakakausap mo pa si sir glen angeles? diba may shenandoah d-35 sha? grabe gusto ko din sana yun eh, hehe. pero alam ko laminated back/sides ang mga shenandoah.


nabenta na yun shenandoah... its not a great guitar anyway, ok lang na pinalagpas mo yun.... mas bagay sa iyo mga 000 or om, pagipunan mo yun om28v....

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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2006, 11:34:41 PM »
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uy doc farseer, kumusta yung mga acoustic mo? the best talaga yung santa cruz mo eh, di ba medyo arched yung top nya?


nope, di arched yun... it has great balance... galing ng pagka voice, not lightly built kaya feather weight, but i prefer the boominess and pressence of the martin d41 :D


ahh ok, yan yung nasa sounds good dati diba? i thought it was arched eh, maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me, hehe. hayy, how i'd love to own an all solid wood acoustic. kahit blueridge lang, hehe. iba talaga ang timbre ng solid wood eh, hehe. nabenta mo na yung 000-16 diba?

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« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2006, 11:38:27 PM »
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nabenta na yun shenandoah... its not a great guitar anyway, ok lang na pinalagpas mo yun.... mas bagay sa iyo mga 000 or om, pagipunan mo yun om28v....


but it has quite a hefty price tag diba? hehe. om28v pa, kung om28 sa ishibashii i think is around 180k yen, pano pa yung om28v. hayy... hehe. kahit nga 000-15 ayos lang sakin eh, basta all solid.

i was able to try a guild 00-bodied acoustic, all mahogany. i forgot the model name eh, but it's a 1960's model. it belinged to a pastor in our church. i had arie repair its cracked bridge. nagustuhan ko din yung tunog nya eh, punchy, throaty sound. so i figured na ganon din tunog ng 15-series martins.

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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2006, 11:40:19 PM »
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uy doc farseer, kumusta yung mga acoustic mo? the best talaga yung santa cruz mo eh, di ba medyo arched yung top nya?


nope, di arched yun... it has great balance... galing ng pagka voice, not lightly built kaya feather weight, but i prefer the boominess and pressence of the martin d41 :D


ahh ok, yan yung nasa sounds good dati diba? i thought it was arched eh, maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me, hehe. hayy, how i'd love to own an all solid wood acoustic. kahit blueridge lang, hehe. iba talaga ang timbre ng solid wood eh, hehe. nabenta mo na yung 000-16 diba?


the 00016 is gone... ok din yun kasi pre 94' so scalloped pa yun bracing tsaka naka dovetail pa... but for me mas bagay ang rosewood sa 000 at om, mas nagkaka depth yun tunog... sa dreads ganda ng mahogany- dream ko pa rin magka D18v- sana palarin, hehehe

ive tried some of the chinese made guilds- all solid, ganda ng finish- pero nabitin ako somewhat sa tunog... baka kelangan pang magopen, but seriously ive tried a lot of new guitars na maganda at malakas na tumunog  right out of the box  :D

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« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2006, 11:46:13 PM »
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nabenta na yun shenandoah... its not a great guitar anyway, ok lang na pinalagpas mo yun.... mas bagay sa iyo mga 000 or om, pagipunan mo yun om28v....


but it has quite a hefty price tag diba? hehe. om28v pa, kung om28 sa ishibashii i think is around 180k yen, pano pa yung om28v. hayy... hehe. kahit nga 000-15 ayos lang sakin eh, basta all solid.

i was able to try a guild 00-bodied acoustic, all mahogany. i forgot the model name eh, but it's a 1960's model. it belinged to a pastor in our church. i had arie repair its cracked bridge. nagustuhan ko din yung tunog nya eh, punchy, throaty sound. so i figured na ganon din tunog ng 15-series martins.


180k is cheap for a new om28... pero pagiipunan ko yun v...

ive also had a 00015- masyadong matigas tumunog, but your right throaty nga...
best buy kung gusto  mo all solid w. sitka top is the 00015 custom- it can be had for about 700 bucks
I love my 1970 guild F50, grabe tumunog, beats the crap out of the gibson jumbos ive owned.... eto lang ang guild na nagustuhan ko so far, cept for their 12 string jumbos....

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« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2006, 11:48:40 PM »
ah talaga? how much do they go for? kung may all-solid acoustic ako i'll play the hell out of it, hehe. cheaper pa sa blueridge?

sayang di ko natry yung taylors sa may tomlee dati eh, merong american na sinolo nya yung room eh, locked himself in. pero ako sinolo ko yung martin room, hehe. then played around with the yamahas outside. ganda din yung fingerstyle guitar nila ah.

dati i went the way of ovations, hehe. na-attract ako sa bowl back nya. pero, no offense to ovation users, medyo na-plastic-an ako sa tunog nya, hehe. but amplified, medyo ok sila. i liked the resonance of wood better. i've owned around 4 ovations so far, an applause ae-28, an ovation celebrity cc057, ovation celebrity cc028 and an ovation celebrity deluxe cs257, i sold them all, hehe.

any ovation/applause users here? tell us your experiences.

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« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2006, 11:49:00 PM »
my only acoustic guitar, an unknown brand called Vanderson..it was a spur of the moment purchase, in A-B-C ko sya against a Fender and a Takamine acoustic, and this won out...very very full sounding.

but but but, since i bought my variax.. yung acoustic models na lang ng variax ang ginagamit ko..full sounding and very convincing yung models nya IMHO, without the hard/heavy strings of a real acoustic.

im not much of an acoustic guitar fan...although i like acoustic music.. sometimes.

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« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2006, 11:50:35 PM »
i think the 00015 custom is for sam ash lang diba? cheapest spruced top martin nga yun na all-solid. ganda yun pa-buff mo nalang yung satin finish nya para magka-gloss, hehe.

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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2006, 11:52:48 PM »
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ah talaga? how much do they go for? kung may all-solid acoustic ako i'll play the hell out of it, hehe. cheaper pa sa blueridge?

sayang di ko natry yung taylors sa may tomlee dati eh, merong american na sinolo nya yung room eh, locked himself in. pero ako sinolo ko yung martin room, hehe. then played around with the yamahas outside. ganda din yung fingerstyle guitar nila ah.

dati i went the way of ovations, hehe. na-attract ako sa bowl back nya. pero, no offense to ovation users, medyo na-plastic-an ako sa tunog nya, hehe. but amplified, medyo ok sila. i liked the resonance of wood better. i've owned around 4 ovations so far, an applause ae-28, an ovation celebrity cc057, ovation celebrity cc028 and an ovation celebrity deluxe cs257, i sold them all, hehe.

any ovation/applause users here? tell us your experiences.


ovations are not my type to, pero pag naka plug ok na din....
taylors in tomlees are expensive... the 5 and 6 series are my favorites

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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2006, 11:54:01 PM »
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my only acoustic guitar, an unknown brand called Vanderson..it was a spur of the moment purchase, in A-B-C ko sya against a Fender and a Takamine acoustic, and this won out...very very full sounding.

but but but, since i bought my variax.. yung acoustic models na lang ng variax ang ginagamit ko..full sounding and very convincing yung models nya IMHO, without the hard/heavy strings of a real acoustic.


is the variax acoustic modeller better than the acoustic mode of the parker fly? i haven't heard the variax eh, pero i've heard the parkers... and they come pretty close, hehehe.

@ farseer

yung isang guy sa church namin, naka taylor 7-series, i think it's a 714 with the fishman blend preamp. medyo matigas tumunog eh. musta naman taylor mo? what's the pickups of your taylor? fishman pa or naka expression system ka na?

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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2006, 11:54:11 PM »
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i think the 00015 custom is for sam ash lang diba? cheapest spruced top martin nga yun na all-solid. ganda yun pa-buff mo nalang yung satin finish nya para magka-gloss, hehe.


di lang nga dovetail tsaka different type of bracing ang ginamit... but i think its worth ot or just get a 03 larrivee...

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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2006, 11:56:46 PM »
sarap talaga pag-usapan ng acoustic, hehehe. para akong na-liberate, hehe. sunod sunod ang posts ko, hehe.

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« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2006, 11:58:20 PM »
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@ farseer

yung isang guy sa church namin, naka taylor 7-series, i think it's a 714 with the fishman blend preamp. medyo matigas tumunog eh. musta naman taylor mo? what's the pickups of your taylor? fishman pa or naka expression system ka na?


my taylor is a 94' 912c w/ factory installed fishman....es system 03' lang nagstart...  ayus naman tunog niya not spectacular....

usually malambot nga tumunog mga taylors, bright and crisp... baka heavy ang gauge na ginamit niya :D

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« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2006, 11:59:55 PM »
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sarap talaga pag-usapan ng acoustic, hehehe. para akong na-liberate, hehe. sunod sunod ang posts ko, hehe.


yup acoustics din fave ko, dami ko kasi experience dyan e... tsaka lespauls

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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2006, 12:03:59 AM »
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@ farseer

yung isang guy sa church namin, naka taylor 7-series, i think it's a 714 with the fishman blend preamp. medyo matigas tumunog eh. musta naman taylor mo? what's the pickups of your taylor? fishman pa or naka expression system ka na?


my taylor is a 94' 912c w/ factory installed fishman....es system 03' lang nagstart...  ayus naman tunog niya not spectacular....

usually malambot nga tumunog mga taylors, bright and crisp... baka heavy ang gauge na ginamit niya :D


well his is a cedar topped guitar, rosewood back and sides, he uses elixir lights ata. maybe hindi lang ako sanay sa warmth ng cedar. and medyo hindi ko type ang cedar/rosewood combo. medyo parang too warm for me, hehehe. maganda siguro cedar paired with mahogany. wala lang in theory, the punch of mahogany plus the warmth of cedar... may ganyan ba?

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« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2006, 12:08:44 AM »
ive tried a no frills lowden w/ cedar/mahogany combo... grabe, lakas ng volume, rich overtones.... mahal nga lang

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« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2006, 12:09:23 AM »
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my only acoustic guitar, an unknown brand called Vanderson..it was a spur of the moment purchase, in A-B-C ko sya against a Fender and a Takamine acoustic, and this won out...very very full sounding.

but but but, since i bought my variax.. yung acoustic models na lang ng variax ang ginagamit ko..full sounding and very convincing yung models nya IMHO, without the hard/heavy strings of a real acoustic.


is the variax acoustic modeller better than the acoustic mode of the parker fly? i haven't heard the variax eh, pero i've heard the parkers... and they come pretty close, hehehe.

@ farseer

yung isang guy sa church namin, naka taylor 7-series, i think it's a 714 with the fishman blend preamp. medyo matigas tumunog eh. musta naman taylor mo? what's the pickups of your taylor? fishman pa or naka expression system ka na?


I will try to record some of it when I have time...except for the 12string models, im very impressed with variax's acoustic sims.

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« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2006, 12:11:20 AM »
wow, that oughtta sound good, hehe. buti ka pa you get to try the high end stuff. eh dito the closest you can get to a martin eh yung sigma guitars ng jbmusic, hehehe.

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« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2006, 12:12:30 AM »
ayt sonnyray, looking forward to your recordings.