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Offline chupao

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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #500 on: September 16, 2008, 11:21:26 PM »
hee hee okay mga ibang genre and the like na bands basta wag mashado mataas mga boses hee hee

try niyo lang toh lagi sa playlist ko toh

search ther city
emarosa
as i lay dying
august burns red

hinde emo toh para skin kasi galing ng mga arrangement ng search the city hee saka emarosa hee saka swak boses hee hee

as i lay saka august mga hardcore hee hee

gling kasi ng mga pagkakagawa ng mga riff hee hee nainpluwensyahan nila ako sa aking paggigitara ngayon

pero di parin ako nakakalimot sa roots ko hee hee

sadyang marami lang talgang mga talentadong tao sa mundo ! :-D :-D

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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #501 on: September 17, 2008, 11:49:29 PM »
Emo daw is gay metal.. :D

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« Reply #502 on: September 18, 2008, 02:01:49 PM »
Growls of Howler monkeys>>>>>Whiney emo buttrape vocals.

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« Reply #503 on: September 18, 2008, 04:21:34 PM »
i cant play what these young emo-screamo kids are playing...

although minsan parepareho na sila ng tunog...or maybe di ko lang pinapakinggan ng mabuti...

anyway i like some of these "emo" bands/music

like all genres...dumadating, umaalis, minsan bumabalik, minsan hindi na....

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« Reply #504 on: September 18, 2008, 05:26:08 PM »
I usually listen to EMO bands...My mga banda kc na magaling ung pagkakagawa ng mga kanta...Pero ayoko lang talaga sa mga fans nila like how they dress and how they act wierd...Parang nagpapapansin pero wala namang alam...Lalo na kung marami sila "The Black Parade".

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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #505 on: September 19, 2008, 07:51:56 AM »
Right about that. exaggerated outfits are annoying, sakin lang naman.^^
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« Reply #506 on: September 19, 2008, 08:49:57 AM »
para sa akin,simpleng genre lang naman ang emo eh.masyadong lang syang sumikat dahil sa maraming gumagaya sa mga porma kasi malakas ang hatak sa chick cute daw kasi.kahit hindi naman emo eh nagpapaka emo na din.tapos natuto ng salitang emo eh emo na daw sila. :-D

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« Reply #507 on: September 19, 2008, 01:56:13 PM »
andami nabubuo na genre ah :-D

well nakikinig ako nito, dati yung chiodos old albums lang, yung bago nila di ko na natripan. yun lamang.  :-D



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Offline thunder_shadow(raikage)

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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #508 on: September 19, 2008, 08:09:00 PM »
ako okay sakin yung emo music wag ngalang sisigaw nakakarindi eh

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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #509 on: September 25, 2008, 07:27:50 AM »
music nowadays is more on downgrading rather than upgrading. no offense meant. but if this music is what they enjoy, so be it. it's just another Punk Revolution, imo. Rock on, brothers.




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« Reply #510 on: September 25, 2008, 10:27:39 AM »
some emo songs a good specially the lyrics..
pero no offense sa mga emo jan, na babadingan ako sa style nila  :-D :-D

pero cool din yung IBANG emo bands..

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« Reply #511 on: September 25, 2008, 12:06:11 PM »
hee hee okay mga ibang genre and the like na bands basta wag mashado mataas mga boses hee hee

try niyo lang toh lagi sa playlist ko toh

search ther city
emarosa
as i lay dying
august burns red

hinde emo toh para skin kasi galing ng mga arrangement ng search the city hee saka emarosa hee saka swak boses hee hee

as i lay saka august mga hardcore hee hee

gling kasi ng mga pagkakagawa ng mga riff hee hee nainpluwensyahan nila ako sa aking paggigitara ngayon

pero di parin ako nakakalimot sa roots ko hee hee

sadyang marami lang talgang mga talentadong tao sa mundo ! :-D :-D


not emo.


mid 80's emo
www.myspace.com/ritesofspring

early 90s emo
http://myspace.com/indiansummersongs

late 90s - early 00's emo
http://myspace.com/cityofcaterpillar

early 00s-present screamo
http://myspace.com/circletakesthesquare



as i lay dying is not hardcore
august burns red is not hardcore


Boston Straightedge hardcore
http://www.myspace.com/haveheart 
http://www.myspace.com/banecentral

New York Hardcore
www.myspace.com/sickofitallny
www.myspace.com/madball 


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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #512 on: September 25, 2008, 12:13:35 PM »
READ IT AND WEEP. damnit. how many times do i have to post and repost this.

no offense to those kids who think they're emo, but it really gets on my nerves whenever i see some kid that looks like this...




now, it's not that i'm getting @nal about the whole emo as a counterculture thing, but the whole emo thing started from hardcore punk in 1985 and is still a part of hardcore punk. i asked one of "those" kids about what they thought about it, they said, "pare, ang pagiging emo is emotional, emo music is music na may emotion!" and i was all, "wtf!? dude, there's no such thing as an emo culture, even if you trace it back to 1985 to 1994 and even as late as 1999 and 2003" and the only reaction i got was something like, "oo na, ang dami mo nang alam, yabang mo!" it's funny really, how insecure, image obsessed kids could latch on to a new trendy clutch so quickly. i mean, these kids don't even listen to real emo, all they listen to is stuff like Chiodos, Alesana, Dashboard Confessional, Typecast, Atreyu, Chicosci, Bring Me The Horizon, Drop Dead Gorgeous, Underoath, the Used and the likes. i dunno, it's not that i'm being elitist or something, but i'm just sick of how so many people pretend to know something they don't, and become so defensive if you try to share something you learned when you were in that position so long ago.

just in case people wanna know what emo is and have no idea of what it is prior to reading this post, lemme just give a short primer.

emo was a slightly derogatory term attached to the introspective approach of hardcore punk bands like Embrace and Rites of Spring who both came out in the Washington, DC scene in 1985. some 'zine referred to their introspectively expressive spin on hardcore as "emocore". ever since, the term sort of sideways stuck throughout emo's evolution.

here's a list of notable emo/screamo bands according to era/style.

Emocore(around 1985-1987 i think)
basically hardcore punk with parched singing and desperate sounding vocal delivery. the music itself was characterized by certain use of octave chords.

examples:

Rites Of Spring
Embrace
Husker Du

Emo (probably around 1987-1994)
the emo sound was built around the earlier emocore template that brought a more cathartic dimension to punk. this time, stripped down to pure unharnessed emotional delivery characterized by beautiful use of plucked buildups and cathartic, chaotic climaxes.

examples:

Indian Summer
Plunger
Julia
Moss Icon
Don Martin 3

Hardcore Emo (in the early 90s, i think)
to paraphrase Andy Radin, hardcore emo is to emo as hardcore is to hardcore punk. characterized by fast, blurry tempos and usually harsh screamed vocals.

examples:

Heroin
Angel Hair
Antioch Arrow
early Portraits of Past
Honeywell

Emo Violence
a joke term coined by a band called In/Humanity, probably first played by people who listened to powerviolence alongside either emo or hardcore emo.

examples:

Jenny Piccolo
In/Humanity
Palatka
Usurp Synapse

Screamo
this is debatable, but in my opinion, screamo itself is a blend of all the previous styles of emo, implementing traits from other genres of music such as indie-rock, post-rock, and to an extent, harsher types of music such as grindcore. it has become sort of a catchall for modern emo. it has reached worldwide popularity in different parts of the world particuarly in America and Europe. screamo bands from across the world usually have regional sounds associated with them.

examples of american screamo bands:

Saetia
Welcome The Plague Year
Neil Perry
You And I
Funeral Diner
Joshua Fit For Battle
Hassan I Sabbah
Cease Upon The Capitol
Yaphet Kotto

examples of italian screamo bands:

La Quiete
Raein
the Death Of Anna Karina

examples of french screamo bands:

Mihai Edrisch
Daitro
Gantz
Sed Non Satiata

examples of german screamo bands:

June Paik
Tristan Tzara
Louise Cyphre
Einermusstot

examples of scandanavian screamo bands:

Angora Static
Amalthea
Shikari
Marat
the Manhattan Skyline
Kaospilot

examples of malaysian screamo bands:

Kias Fansuri
Orbitcinta Benjamin
Killeur Calculateur
Daghlia

examples of japanese screamo bands:

Envy
Nervous Light Of Sunday
Nitro Mega Prayer
Dipleg

examples of philippine screamo:

Caitlyn Bailey
Capulette
Tigers Are Out, Bears Are In
Iola Morton
Means To No End

common characteristics in modern emo and screamo
in the 00's, more screamo bands took advantage of the buildup and cathartic climax element of emo and blended them with post-rock, bands like City Of ------ and Envy being perfect examples of this type of emo. another common type of screamo band is the more progressive type of emo characterized by complex structures and time changes, such as Circle Takes the Square. regional traits aside, it's also noted that Canadian bands from the 90s such as Union Of Uranus and One Eyed God Prophecy soundwise did a lot to influence screamo bands such as Orchid, Reversal Of Man, and the like. it's influence can still be seen in bands as recent as the Apoplexy Twist Orchestra or the Flying Worker.

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a little FAQ section
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Q: are Dashboard Confessional or My Chemical Romance emo?
A: no they are not, read the rest of the crap i posted, and you'll clearly see why

Q: but they are emotional :(
A: so was my grandfater, but he isn't emo by a longshot.

Q: if they aren't emo, what are they then?
A: there are 134983721948 non-emo genres out there, figure that out yourself, sherlock. that's none of my concern.

Q: what do real emo kids dress like?
A: there's no such thing as an emo kid, the only emo kids are effects of gross mislabelling of bands via mainstream channels such as Spin Magazine and MTV.

Q: am i emo?
A: you are not.

Q: are you emo?
A: i wouldn't be caught dead in skinny jeans and scene hair, that's just dumb in my opinion.

Q: what are emo lyrics like?
A: contrary to popular belief, emo lyrics aren't usually about love or being misunderstood by the cool kids in school, rather, emo lyrics tend to be rather political, such with the case of bands like Ampere and Reversal Of Man.

Q: is there such a thing as emo-goth music?
A: there is no such thing, although Antioch Arrow actually did bring a little touch of goth aesthetic and goth musical flair to hardcore emo. but that's an isolated case, i guess.

Q: is there such a thing as emo-punk?
A: nope, punk rock came before hardcore punk, hardcore punk is a direct descendant of punk. emo is a direct descendant of hardcore punk, so it's impossible to label anything as emo-punk given that it's a generation apart in terms of chronological order. anything that has to do with real emo in terms of music is punk, but not everything that's punk has anything to do with emo.

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note:
the best way to understand emo is to actually give the bands a listen, so if anyone's remotely interested in learning what emo sounds like, it's best to open www.myspace.com and use the search music function with this guide or a site like fourfa.com or youdontknowemo.tk as reference.


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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #513 on: September 25, 2008, 03:06:29 PM »
maraming magaganda na chix na pumuporma emo.

yun lng importante sa akin. hehehehe.

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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #514 on: September 25, 2008, 03:13:40 PM »
READ IT AND WEEP. damnit. how many times do i have to post and repost this.

no offense to those kids who think they're emo, but it really gets on my nerves whenever i see some kid that looks like this...




now, it's not that i'm getting @nal about the whole emo as a counterculture thing, but the whole emo thing started from hardcore punk in 1985 and is still a part of hardcore punk. i asked one of "those" kids about what they thought about it, they said, "pare, ang pagiging emo is emotional, emo music is music na may emotion!" and i was all, "wtf!? dude, there's no such thing as an emo culture, even if you trace it back to 1985 to 1994 and even as late as 1999 and 2003" and the only reaction i got was something like, "oo na, ang dami mo nang alam, yabang mo!" it's funny really, how insecure, image obsessed kids could latch on to a new trendy clutch so quickly. i mean, these kids don't even listen to real emo, all they listen to is stuff like Chiodos, Alesana, Dashboard Confessional, Typecast, Atreyu, Chicosci, Bring Me The Horizon, Drop Dead Gorgeous, Underoath, the Used and the likes. i dunno, it's not that i'm being elitist or something, but i'm just sick of how so many people pretend to know something they don't, and become so defensive if you try to share something you learned when you were in that position so long ago.

just in case people wanna know what emo is and have no idea of what it is prior to reading this post, lemme just give a short primer.

emo was a slightly derogatory term attached to the introspective approach of hardcore punk bands like Embrace and Rites of Spring who both came out in the Washington, DC scene in 1985. some 'zine referred to their introspectively expressive spin on hardcore as "emocore". ever since, the term sort of sideways stuck throughout emo's evolution.

here's a list of notable emo/screamo bands according to era/style.

Emocore(around 1985-1987 i think)
basically hardcore punk with parched singing and desperate sounding vocal delivery. the music itself was characterized by certain use of octave chords.

examples:

Rites Of Spring
Embrace
Husker Du

Emo (probably around 1987-1994)
the emo sound was built around the earlier emocore template that brought a more cathartic dimension to punk. this time, stripped down to pure unharnessed emotional delivery characterized by beautiful use of plucked buildups and cathartic, chaotic climaxes.

examples:

Indian Summer
Plunger
Julia
Moss Icon
Don Martin 3

Hardcore Emo (in the early 90s, i think)
to paraphrase Andy Radin, hardcore emo is to emo as hardcore is to hardcore punk. characterized by fast, blurry tempos and usually harsh screamed vocals.

examples:

Heroin
Angel Hair
Antioch Arrow
early Portraits of Past
Honeywell

Emo Violence
a joke term coined by a band called In/Humanity, probably first played by people who listened to powerviolence alongside either emo or hardcore emo.

examples:

Jenny Piccolo
In/Humanity
Palatka
Usurp Synapse

Screamo
this is debatable, but in my opinion, screamo itself is a blend of all the previous styles of emo, implementing traits from other genres of music such as indie-rock, post-rock, and to an extent, harsher types of music such as grindcore. it has become sort of a catchall for modern emo. it has reached worldwide popularity in different parts of the world particuarly in America and Europe. screamo bands from across the world usually have regional sounds associated with them.

examples of american screamo bands:

Saetia
Welcome The Plague Year
Neil Perry
You And I
Funeral Diner
Joshua Fit For Battle
Hassan I Sabbah
Cease Upon The Capitol
Yaphet Kotto

examples of italian screamo bands:

La Quiete
Raein
the Death Of Anna Karina

examples of french screamo bands:

Mihai Edrisch
Daitro
Gantz
Sed Non Satiata

examples of german screamo bands:

June Paik
Tristan Tzara
Louise Cyphre
Einermusstot

examples of scandanavian screamo bands:

Angora Static
Amalthea
Shikari
Marat
the Manhattan Skyline
Kaospilot

examples of malaysian screamo bands:

Kias Fansuri
Orbitcinta Benjamin
Killeur Calculateur
Daghlia

examples of japanese screamo bands:

Envy
Nervous Light Of Sunday
Nitro Mega Prayer
Dipleg

examples of philippine screamo:

Caitlyn Bailey
Capulette
Tigers Are Out, Bears Are In
Iola Morton
Means To No End

common characteristics in modern emo and screamo
in the 00's, more screamo bands took advantage of the buildup and cathartic climax element of emo and blended them with post-rock, bands like City Of ------ and Envy being perfect examples of this type of emo. another common type of screamo band is the more progressive type of emo characterized by complex structures and time changes, such as Circle Takes the Square. regional traits aside, it's also noted that Canadian bands from the 90s such as Union Of Uranus and One Eyed God Prophecy soundwise did a lot to influence screamo bands such as Orchid, Reversal Of Man, and the like. it's influence can still be seen in bands as recent as the Apoplexy Twist Orchestra or the Flying Worker.

------------------------------------
a little FAQ section
------------------------------------

Q: are Dashboard Confessional or My Chemical Romance emo?
A: no they are not, read the rest of the crap i posted, and you'll clearly see why

Q: but they are emotional :(
A: so was my grandfater, but he isn't emo by a longshot.

Q: if they aren't emo, what are they then?
A: there are 134983721948 non-emo genres out there, figure that out yourself, sherlock. that's none of my concern.

Q: what do real emo kids dress like?
A: there's no such thing as an emo kid, the only emo kids are effects of gross mislabelling of bands via mainstream channels such as Spin Magazine and MTV.

Q: am i emo?
A: you are not.

Q: are you emo?
A: i wouldn't be caught dead in skinny jeans and scene hair, that's just dumb in my opinion.

Q: what are emo lyrics like?
A: contrary to popular belief, emo lyrics aren't usually about love or being misunderstood by the cool kids in school, rather, emo lyrics tend to be rather political, such with the case of bands like Ampere and Reversal Of Man.

Q: is there such a thing as emo-goth music?
A: there is no such thing, although Antioch Arrow actually did bring a little touch of goth aesthetic and goth musical flair to hardcore emo. but that's an isolated case, i guess.

Q: is there such a thing as emo-punk?
A: nope, punk rock came before hardcore punk, hardcore punk is a direct descendant of punk. emo is a direct descendant of hardcore punk, so it's impossible to label anything as emo-punk given that it's a generation apart in terms of chronological order. anything that has to do with real emo in terms of music is punk, but not everything that's punk has anything to do with emo.

------------------------------------
note:
the best way to understand emo is to actually give the bands a listen, so if anyone's remotely interested in learning what emo sounds like, it's best to open www.myspace.com and use the search music function with this guide or a site like fourfa.com or youdontknowemo.tk as reference.


-f.m. regalado of Caitlyn Bailey

tl;dr.

So, ano ba talaga definition ng EMO for you sir? Definition ha, hindi yung magbibigay ka ng examples. What is emo all about? Ano ang characteristic ng emo music? What defines emo music? Ano ba ang generic content ng emo music?

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« Reply #515 on: September 25, 2008, 07:02:25 PM »
demm men. sanang iniklian mo nalang mismo dun sa quote kesa na tl;dr  :lol:

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« Reply #516 on: September 25, 2008, 07:05:04 PM »
reiterate ko lang sinasagot ko palagi sa pinoy rock forum:

"music nowadays have too many genres, and too many fools."

basta lahat yan rock. yan lang importante.

just grab your guitar, and play the music you want.
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« Reply #517 on: September 25, 2008, 07:49:54 PM »
tl;dr.

So, ano ba talaga definition ng EMO for you sir? Definition ha, hindi yung magbibigay ka ng examples. What is emo all about? Ano ang characteristic ng emo music? What defines emo music? Ano ba ang generic content ng emo music?
dude wala kasing meaning ang EMO nag simula lang kasi yan sa gig ng rites of spring yung crowd na biglang nag sabi sa kanila after nung set nila na hey guys youre so EMO coz puno ng emotion yung set nila nun puro galit etc...  yun dun nag start yun tukso lang siya na na-abuse wala naman talagang genre na EMO coz lahat ng kanta eh me emotion...

around 80's pa nag start to ang genre pa din nila is punk hardcore... i understand kung karamihan sa mga musikero ngayon ay di trip yung emo kasi karamihan din naman ay di alam kung san galing at kung ano yung EMO...so oks lang kung di ninyo trip me kanya kanya kasi tayong trip eh pero kung sasabihin mo na galit ka sa EMO yun ang di ko maintindihan coz para kang nag husga sa isang tao na di mo naman kilala...
reiterate ko lang sinasagot ko palagi sa pinoy rock forum:

"music nowadays have too many genres, and too many fools."

basta lahat yan rock. yan lang importante.

just grab your guitar, and play the music you want.
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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #518 on: September 25, 2008, 08:14:18 PM »
tl;dr.

So, ano ba talaga definition ng EMO for you sir? Definition ha, hindi yung magbibigay ka ng examples. What is emo all about? Ano ang characteristic ng emo music? What defines emo music? Ano ba ang generic content ng emo music?

actually, i wrote that guide and it was meant for frequent reposting.

1. emo was a joke descriptor aimed at the intensity of rites of spring's live set and personal lyrical content.

2. most emo music follows the hardcore/punk format, think thrashcore with octave chords and screaming over it. sometimes they have long intros/outros, sometimes they're just all out thrashing. sometimes they're as slow as sludge

3. emo music isn't exactly given any formal definition but the term itself has been attributed to a certain sound tied to a certain scene. some terms could be stated objectively, but with the huge variation of style and substyles within the emo genre it would be easier to define by giving a list of examples.

4. generally, emo bands tend to have introspective content and tend to dwell on personal issues. more often than not though, there is also a huge number of emo bands who have overtly political content.
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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #519 on: September 25, 2008, 08:26:13 PM »
tl;dr.

So, ano ba talaga definition ng EMO for you sir? Definition ha, hindi yung magbibigay ka ng examples. What is emo all about? Ano ang characteristic ng emo music? What defines emo music? Ano ba ang generic content ng emo music?

if i try to define it wouldnt be much of a definition because there is so much space for personal error. so thats basically asking me for my opinion on the matter. who am i to define what it is anyway? or rather, who do you think i am to define it? although im sure of one thing. i know what it ISNT.

examples? arent examples enough to define something? if you took time to listen to those then you wouldnt be asking me in the first place. its called ostensive definition. An ostensive definition conveys the meaning of a term by pointing out examples. (Wittgenstein).

as for characteristic, one common thing about emo bands is DIY ethic. however, DIY ethic also exists in punk and hardcore scenes. soundwise, emo bands tend to have dynamic song structures ranging from minimalist plucked parts to chaotic, almost grindcore-like parts.

what defines emo music? thats not for me to say. its something that you just either get or you dont. althoughi first truly got into it after hearing an indian summer song and then i got curious to see what other bands exist that sound like this. "emo" is just like a post it note, a knot on the finger or a place in the filing cabinet for me to sort out and remember things i listen to.

generic content? there lies the problem of ambiguity. its not as if all emo bands have one or two general characteristics that bind all of them together. rather, bands and sounds are interrelated. instead of band a, b and c having one common trait, its more like, band a has a sound that is reminiscent of band b. and then band b has a trait that it shares with band c. and our minds assume a connection between the 3 bands.

so i dont think it would be completely wrong to define it by example because there are no total elements that bind all emo bands together.


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i say just dig in if youre curious. if not then forget about it.
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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #520 on: September 25, 2008, 09:16:04 PM »
maraming magaganda na chix na pumuporma emo.

yun lng importante sa akin. hehehehe.

emo chix.  :-D
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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #521 on: September 25, 2008, 10:20:09 PM »
Well whatever emo WAS, what emo IS now is a word used to describe a fashion trend and the-over-the-top and generally whiny music used to advertise and market it.

And that's an absolute shame. That's what America's good for- commercializing, saturating and trivializing musical movements and revolutions. The Brits rule.


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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #522 on: September 26, 2008, 04:23:36 AM »
 :-o

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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #523 on: September 26, 2008, 07:43:19 AM »
mang-chicks na lang tayo ng mga babaeng emo hehehe.... :-D

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Re: Guitarists' view on Emo music
« Reply #524 on: September 26, 2008, 08:42:34 AM »
if i try to define it wouldnt be much of a definition because there is so much space for personal error. so thats basically asking me for my opinion on the matter. who am i to define what it is anyway? or rather, who do you think i am to define it? although im sure of one thing. i know what it ISNT.

examples? arent examples enough to define something? if you took time to listen to those then you wouldnt be asking me in the first place. its called ostensive definition. An ostensive definition conveys the meaning of a term by pointing out examples. (Wittgenstein).

as for characteristic, one common thing about emo bands is DIY ethic. soundwise, emo bands tend to have dynamic song structures ranging from minimalist plucked parts to chaotic, almost grindcore-like parts.

what defines emo music? thats not for me to say. its something that you just either get or you dont. althoughi first truly got into it after hearing an indian summer song and then i got curious to see what other bands exist that sound like this. "emo" is just like a post it note, a knot on the finger or a place in the filing cabinet for me to sort out and remember things i listen to.

generic content? there lies the problem of ambiguity. its not as if all emo bands have one or two general characteristics that bind all of them together. rather, bands and sounds are interrelated. instead of band a, b and c having one common trait, its more like, band a has a sound that is reminiscent of band b. and then band b has a trait that it shares with band c. and our minds assume a connection between the 3 bands.

so i dont think it would be completely wrong to define it by example because there are no total elements that bind all emo bands together.


a person travelling a country cannot easily draw a map of it. a person with a map cannot easily picture himself in the country's sights.

i say just dig in if youre curious. if not then forget about it.


Thanks. I'll just go and listen to some blues.