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The Musician Forums => Pinoydrums => Topic started by: musicianurse28 on April 23, 2011, 08:58:24 PM
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Mga brad, naexcite lang ako magpost ng bagong topic dahil sa nadiscover ko kaninang development sa sarili ko. Hindi ko alam kung may ganitong thread na, sorry po mga sir mods kung meron na..
Eto, nung unang nakuha ko yung Pearl Demon Drive ko last January 5, 2011, sabi ko first high end pedal ko yun. :-D Since ang common na pedal board ay short board, naexcite akong i-shift agad sa long board yung Demon. Masubukan lang yung ibang feel kasi di pa ko nakaka-experience personally ng long board. So ayun matagal rin akong naka-loang board. Anyway, last week lang binalik ko siya sa short board. Nag drums lang ako ng nag drums araw araw, konting experiment sa Demon, at "TUMPAK!", nakuha ko ang hinahanap kong feel. Ewan ko lang sa iba, pero palagay ko maka-short board talaga ako. At satisfied naman ako sa Demon Drive. :-)
Another story, nung bagong bili ko pa lang yung double peds ko, sabi ko ulit masubukan lang kung pasok saken. Pero ilang months lang binenta ko rin agad siya dito. Parang mas gusto kong mag single pedal lang kesa double eh. Pero mga master, di ko po sinasabing panget ang double pedal ha? The best ang double peds, hindi nga lang siya ata talaga para saken.. :lol:
Last, dati pa-iba-iba ako ng model ng sticks. Eversince ang gamit ko na talaga ay Vic Firth, yun nga lang hindi malaman kung 5A ba, 5B, o 2B. Then later on I found out na mas ok saken ang 2B. Masarap, lapat na lapat sa kamay ko! :-D
Bottom line is, na-discover ko na mas gusto ko pala ang Single Pedal na Short Board, at Vic Firth 2B drumsticks.. :-D
Kayo, anong nadiscover niyo? Baka magkatulungan tayo :-)
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Pano pala "shinishift" (what a word) yung mga board sa pedal? Separately sold ba yun? O DIY? Ako kung may pambile ako ng double peds dun na ako kaso nga lang ang problema ko yung connecting rod (yun ba tawag dun?) date kase may generic ako na double peds kaso parang ang haba sa akin nung rod kaya ang laki ng bukaka ko chaka parating natatangal, hahaha...mano-mano bang pinuputol yun o may na bibileng mas maiksi? Atchaka may snare stand ba na hindi malaki kumain ng space para pasok-na-pasok yung double peds?
Ako na-discover ko na sana di ko pinatapon yung mga generic ko na cymbals years ago para may na nahahand hammer ako na cymbals ngayon chaka pang stack narin para sa mga ride cymbal na hindi na ccrash. Sa sticks, lately sabe ko mga inbetween 5a and 5b gusto ko, pero ngayon parang 7a (promark) na talaga kahit na pangbasagan yung style which most of the time I rely on my pinky para may diin, na feel ko lang na mas dynamic yung dating sa aken maslalo na pag mahilig ka mag ghost.
Pang marching na ba yung size ng 2b? Di pakase ako nakakatry nun, parang ang lake siguro sa aken.
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hindi ba delikado mag hand hammer? meron kasi akong stagg 16" regular thin crash... Gusto ko gawing thrashy pa yung tunog eh, shorty decay and all.
Siguro, yung pinakanadiscover ko eh yung 13" tom ko pala, pwede ko pa gamitin sa set-up ko. Yung set up ko kasi 12", 16", 22", snare, ride at 2 crash eh. Yung 13" tom ko inalambre ko ( haha, wala kasi clamp eh ) sa ride stand ko, hahaha. Yun lang po
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Tungkol dun sa pag hand hammer, di naman siguro delikado yun...wala pa akong experience about sa hand hammering though sa stick hammering meron, hahaha. Meron pa kasi akong extrang generic na crash cymbal na 14" iniistack ko lang sa mga ride na di crashable, may pagka china na nga yung tunog sa tindi ng mga dent sa cymbal (pag nakastack sa ride na malaki).
May mga videos naman sa youtube ng pag hand hammer, yun lang yung mga pinka-idea ko about hand hammering, tulad ng video ni Sir. Peeves.
Okay din pala yung di-alambre technique though di ko pa nattry, may nag spark lang sa imagination ko.
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sir, this thread is interesting :-)
para sa akin naman, i discovered that i thought my taste for cymbals has been zildjian.. but just days ago, i'v been highly intrigued with the 18" sabian hhx o-zone and the chopper. i now have plans to buy one soon..
bottom line is, i think i'm just used to the zildjian "sound".. pero i don't really mind if my cymbal set is a mixture of other brands. :-D
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sir, this thread is interesting :-)
para sa akin naman, i discovered that i thought my taste for cymbals has been zildjian.. but just days ago, i'v been highly intrigued with the 18" sabian hhx o-zone and the chopper. i now have plans to buy one soon..
bottom line is, i think i'm just used to the zildjian "sound".. pero i don't really mind if my cymbal set is a mixture of other brands. :-D
Mismo sir food.vulture! :-D There's an old saying nga sa ating mga nagda-drums, "Kanya kanyang panlasa lang talaga yan, nasa tenga yan ng pumapalo" :-D Kaya nga hindi issue sa atin kung ano man yun mga gears naten eh as long as pasok talaga sa hinahanap nateng tunog :-D
Mukhang maganda nga yang 18'' Sabian HHX ah, mahanap nga sound clip nyan at ng mapakinggan rin :-)
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Mukhang maganda nga yang 18'' Sabian HHX ah, mahanap nga sound clip nyan at ng mapakinggan rin :-)
hahahahaha :-D first time ko nakita/narinig 'live' ung sabian hhx o-zone is from a gig ni bea lao and ung drummer ng salamin is using it as his main crash cymbal.. it really caught my attention :-)
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hahahahaha :-D first time ko nakita/narinig 'live' ung sabian hhx o-zone is from a gig ni bea lao and ung drummer ng salamin is using it as his main crash cymbal.. it really caught my attention :-)
Ah si E.O Marcos, drummer ng Salamin..Bait yun! :-D
Oo dalawa pa lang ata sila ni ms. Bea Lao ang nakikita kong may ganun..
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madami na ako na discover sa skills ko eh.. yung pag gamit ng double peds ko,, nag heel toe.. then faster more faster hanggang sa mapulikat paa koh, ng tumagal di na ako na pupulikat, tapos pinaka fave ko pag aralan yung blast beat na combination ng double pedal ko,, sarap sa pakiramdam:)
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For me "fingers" are more efficient to use than the "wrists" in making a stroke (less power nga lang)
Got a DVD of Jojo Mayers "Secrets of the Modern Drummer" and it's all about complete details... :-D
From "shoulders" down to "fingers" is a step by step body part drumming advantage for drummers...
So far stuck ako practicing my right hand till today, di pa siya as precise as my left hand strikes...
And yes, I am left handed & I want my hands working at the same pace, especially both my feet...
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For me "fingers" are more efficient to use than the "wrists" in making a stroke (less power nga lang)
Got a DVD of Jojo Mayers "Secrets of the Modern Drummer" and it's all about complete details... :-D
From "shoulders" down to "fingers" is a step by step body part drumming advantage for drummers...
So far stuck ako practicing my right hand till today, di pa siya as precise as my left hand strikes...
And yes, I am left handed & I want my hands working at the same pace, especially both my feet...
i'm stuck with his 'clapping' exercise.. hehehe i really enjoyed it, and helps a lot :-D
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Eto para po sa mga drummers na walang cash, gears, pies & always on gig...
As a drummer, advantage pong di lang tayo flexible sa genre or playing style...
Dapat pati sa gears ng ibang tao, I just came back from a diffrent church...
And they have a younger (meaning mas bago) drumset than our church has...
Nasanay na ko sa Sabian B8's namin na di ako mapalagay sa tunog ng ibang pies...
First time ko makagamit ng "all-stock" na drumkit pati cymbals, a learning experience...
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i'm stuck with his 'clapping' exercise.. hehehe i really enjoyed it, and helps a lot :-D
I'm doing that too!!! Pero di ko kaya in public!!!
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nadiscover ko sa sarili ko na sa 3 years experience ko sa drums di pa ako nakakahawak at nakakapalo ng high end cymbals tulad ng mga k custom at a custom. puro n lng ZBT at Planet z. B8 nga indi pa eh di ko alam kung bakit. :-D
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i once regarded zildjian to be the ultimate cymbal pero after hearing the various cymbals out there napansin ko na marami palang maganda that can even outweigh zildjian if it wasnt for the years that zildjian has established within the market. for example, sa ride dati idol ko talaga ang k custom and i would see and recommend to people that it is the best, pero nung lumabas ung HHX ng sabian i was like oh my god... tapos dumating pa ung sand ride ni benny under meinl, na parang lahat ng magandang aspect ng ride pinagsama sama. its just a matter of opening up your mind sa ibat ibang bagay and not judging by what you see and what you hear. :-D
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ako naman madami din akong mga discoveries na nalaman :) natuto kc akong mag drums since i was in grade two . self study :) nakikita ko lng mag drums ung kuya ko sa kwarto nya nun , tapos pag walang tao sa bahay pinakekealaman ko un. ( nahihiyakasi ako pag may tao dahil di naman ako marunong talaga ) . tapos dumating ung pagkakataon na nakakatugtog na ako , at lumalakas na ung palo ko . :D nagulat ako kc bigla akong natyempuhan ng erpats ko which is musical director sa church namin . nagulat din sya kc nun nya lang ako nakitang nag dadrums . hehe . ngaun tumanda na ako , madami na akong alam sa drums ang kaso nga lang ung mga TERMS ang di ko alam . self study lng kc . haha nung 4th year high school na lang ako natuto ng mga ghost notes , rudiments , atsaka iba't ibang fills :D focus ako nun sa single pedal . love love ko ung nag do'doubles pag naka single ( di ko talag alam ung term ) haha . at ngaun 2nd year college na , sinusimulan ko na aralin ang mga terms , twag sa isang particular beat at ETC :) yang lang ang ma she'share ko . god bless ! :DD
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after ko masubukan halos lahat ng double pedals na discover ko na paa ko pala yung may problema :lol:
kulang sa practice :lol:
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ako dati sobrang fan ako ng bright cymbals pero ngayon ko lang naappreciate ang dark cymbals at puro ganito na gamit ko.
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ako dati sobrang fan ako ng bright cymbals pero ngayon ko lang naappreciate ang dark cymbals at puro ganito na gamit ko.
Medyo natatakot ako sa Dark Cymbals kasi may pagka-heavy hitter ako eh.. Hehe.. Baka mabigyan ko agad ng crack pag nagkataon... Pero sobrang swabe nga ng mga dark cymbals :-D
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4 years nakong drummer pero sticks lang meron ako hanggang ngayon. :wink: :-P
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4 years nakong drummer pero sticks lang meron ako hanggang ngayon. :wink: :-P
Ngaun lang ako nakarinig ng ganto ah. :mrgreen:
Thumbs up for you! Tunay na drummer ka pa rin :evil:
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4 years nakong drummer pero sticks lang meron ako hanggang ngayon. :wink: :-P
Same here tol, well 3 & a half years to be exact, but that didn't stop me from playing & learning...
I have 6 pairs of sticks (hassle to hand-carry) & I don't know how to tune a drum... :-D
So I made a decision, and then I bought a stick bag and a cheap drum key... :-D
OT:
I just discovered I lost my Metronome...
And whats worse is I lost the passion to play...
DAMN THAT PSP!!! DAMN YOU!!! :-D
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Ngaun lang ako nakarinig ng ganto ah. :mrgreen:
Thumbs up for you! Tunay na drummer ka pa rin :evil:
sadyang may mga tao na may pera. at may taong maraming pera, pero may taong walang pera. ganun lang yun. :-)
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ako nga after 4 years chka lang ako ngkaroon ng drums after i graduated highschool...pero dati kahit papanu nakakabili naman ako ng sarili kong drumstick peborite ko na stick ung Vic Firth na 5B para kahit papano napapractise ko ung kamay ko na mapabilis ung pulse.
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1. In music, sound alone matters not brand names.
2. In developing one's skill, your passion is more important than the instrument.
3. On becoming an artist, developing one's personal language is more important than copying other musician's technical skills.
4. Fulfillment - Following God's purpose for the talent He has given you will give you the most profound happiness you can ever imagine.
5. It takes effort [not time] to discover things that will define us as a drummer, and a person.
To God be the Glory! :-)
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1. In music, sound alone matters not brand names.
2. In developing one's skill, your passion is more important than the instrument.
3. On becoming an artist, developing one's personal language is more important than copying other musician's technical skills.
4. Fulfillment - Following God's purpose for the talent He has given you will give you the most profound happiness you can ever imagine.
5. It takes effort [not time] to discover things that will define us as a drummer, and a person.
To God be the Glory! :-)
I couldn't agree more! So true.. Cheers brother!
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hey, i missed this thread.. haha any new discoveries?? :)
just discovered i wanted to build a custom snare instead of buying an already 'made' one.. the keller shells @ drumshopmanila got me struck.. can you help/give me suggestions on this one.. thanks..
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i've discovered na, mas mganda pala ang result ng sound sa pagtono ng snare kung uunahin muna yung bounce/feel ng drumhead bago yung tunog nya, hehe. i dont know about you guys, but thats how i tune.haha
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Mas pogi pala un cheapo drumset pag nilagyan ng rack. :lol:
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Mas pogi pala un cheapo drumset pag nilagyan ng rack. :lol:
haha, magmumukhang maton bro.. :-D
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haha, magmumukhang maton bro.. :-D
OO bro haha. Un kasing kit ko, eh hamak na Maya lang (at Maya China pa ha, ndi Maya Japan) hehe. Pero magpapalit ako soon ng Gretsch. Nagbbrowse kasi ako ng mga pics ko sa phone, then nakita ko un pics nya dati nung fullo stock cya lahat. Pati cymbals. Tapos cinompare ko sa itsura nya ngaun. Parang from "pulubi" to "mukhang mayaman pero wala namang pera". Hahaha!
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1. In music, sound alone matters not brand names.
2. In developing one's skill, your passion is more important than the instrument.
3. On becoming an artist, developing one's personal language is more important than copying other musician's technical skills.
4. Fulfillment - Following God's purpose for the talent He has given you will give you the most profound happiness you can ever imagine.
5. It takes effort [not time] to discover things that will define us as a drummer, and a person.
To God be the Glory! :-)
agree ako dito
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Mas pogi pala un cheapo drumset pag nilagyan ng rack. :lol:
hahahaha!! totoo!! ganito rin nangyari sa church dati, kala ko bago na ung drums :-D
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I discovered that its not on the brand its not on the gear its the drummer..
Its adjusting lang..
Also tinuturing kong mga kapatid ang gears ko hahaha :))
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lagi ko nang naririnig 'to dati nung nagsisimula palang ako, then dumating din yung time na naisapuso ko narin. :)
play to express, not to impress.
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lagi ko nang naririnig 'to dati nung nagsisimula palang ako, then dumating din yung time na naisapuso ko narin. :)
play to express, not to impress.
+1
At wag mangigil..
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Ayos tong thread na to ah! :)
Whenever I play, I always feel the urge to adjust my throne left and right, or adjust its height, or adjust the height or angle of the snare drum. Sometimes, because I adjust my throne too far to the left, I find it hard to reach the bell of the ride, so I end up wishing I had longer sticks. So I buy longer sticks and end up crossing them more often or getting them caught on cymbals or hoops. Then I'll wish I had shorter sticks, and end up buying shorter sticks.
Na-realize ko na walang katapusan ang adjustments sa pagpalo.
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I just bought my kit last December 2011, medyo nafrustrate ako kasi parang lagi kaming may grappling match nung kit lalo na pag may ginagawa akong fills. sinubukan ko na ibat-ibang adjustment pero still hindi pa rin ako comfortable pag pinapaluan ko na siya. pag sa studio at nag-eensayo kami ng banda ko ok naman palo ko pero dito pa sa sarili kong kit hindi ako makapalo ng maayos. ginawa ko tumingin ako sa mga drum kit dito sa PM at kumuha ng ideas. at ayun nakuha ko din ang set-up na gusto ko at comfortale ako pag nagpa-practice ako sa bahay.na-realize ko na limitless talaga ang settings and adjustment sa isang drum set at feeling ko ngayon e ung kit ko na ang pinaka-masarap gamitin.
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lesson learned lately: learn with your head, play with your heart.. *naks naman!!* ahaha :)
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I just bought my kit last December 2011, medyo nafrustrate ako kasi parang lagi kaming may grappling match nung kit lalo na pag may ginagawa akong fills. sinubukan ko na ibat-ibang adjustment pero still hindi pa rin ako comfortable pag pinapaluan ko na siya. pag sa studio at nag-eensayo kami ng banda ko ok naman palo ko pero dito pa sa sarili kong kit hindi ako makapalo ng maayos. ginawa ko tumingin ako sa mga drum kit dito sa PM at kumuha ng ideas. at ayun nakuha ko din ang set-up na gusto ko at comfortale ako pag nagpa-practice ako sa bahay.na-realize ko na limitless talaga ang settings and adjustment sa isang drum set at feeling ko ngayon e ung kit ko na ang pinaka-masarap gamitin.
yes the adjustment options are endless, so, once you've established your preferred set up...the bad side of it is whenever you adjust or dismantle, it becomes very hard to re-assemble your kit exactly the way it was before it was dismantled. So, invest on memory locks, and use tapes or markers or whatever na pwedeng pang lagay ng tanda...even detailed pictures wil help...
kaya nagdadalawang isip ako pag may gusto akong subukan na adjustment kasi ang hirap na ibalik kung di ko nagustuhan.
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kabilin bilinan ang ng mentor namin sa church band:
wag na wag kayong tutugtog para palakpakan ng tao, play your instrument as you're thankfully worshiping God through music with the talent He gave to you,..
Tama ^-^
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I just bought my kit last December 2011, medyo nafrustrate ako kasi parang lagi kaming may grappling match nung kit lalo na pag may ginagawa akong fills. sinubukan ko na ibat-ibang adjustment pero still hindi pa rin ako comfortable pag pinapaluan ko na siya. pag sa studio at nag-eensayo kami ng banda ko ok naman palo ko pero dito pa sa sarili kong kit hindi ako makapalo ng maayos. ginawa ko tumingin ako sa mga drum kit dito sa PM at kumuha ng ideas. at ayun nakuha ko din ang set-up na gusto ko at comfortale ako pag nagpa-practice ako sa bahay.na-realize ko na limitless talaga ang settings and adjustment sa isang drum set at feeling ko ngayon e ung kit ko na ang pinaka-masarap gamitin.
Ganyan rin nangyari sa akin. Sariling kit ang hirap gamitin. Sanayan rin lang talga. It takes a little time too. :)
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Mas pogi pala un cheapo drumset pag nilagyan ng rack. :lol:
OT: Post mo naman bro yung full set-up mo... :-D
BTT: it doesnt matter kung anung top lines or models... kung minsan, lower lines/models sounds way better than the top ones... Example, K Custom Hybrid Trash Splash - di ko type talaga tunog neto... madamot sa projection at trash... on the other hand, stagg dh china splash 12"... panalong panalo... sarap...
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BTT: it doesnt matter kung anung top lines or models... kung minsan, lower lines/models sounds way better than the top ones... Example, K Custom Hybrid Trash Splash - di ko type talaga tunog neto... madamot sa projection at trash... on the other hand, stagg dh china splash 12"... panalong panalo... sarap...
to add, it all goes down to what sounds good to you. I think sound is also a non debatable topic..hehe :)
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to add, it all goes down to what sounds good to you. I think sound is also a non debatable topic..hehe :)
tama brodah... 12 myra splash nalang para may tertiary hats na ako...
Ginagaya ko yung stagg aux hats mo... :lol:
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tama brodah... 12 myra splash nalang para may tertiary hats na ako...
Ginagaya ko yung stagg aux hats mo... :lol:
sabi nila having 2 hi-hats is a luxury na daw, ano pa kaya pag tatlo na??hehehe :lol:
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^that's just greed. :lol: joke lang! :wave:
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Ako rin the first I had my kit medyo badtrip ako sa tunog at feel per after few months all I knew Is its the best kit I'm comfy with..
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tama brodah... 12 myra splash nalang para may tertiary hats na ako...
Ginagaya ko yung stagg aux hats mo... :lol:
you mean sir splash cymbals ang gagamitin mo para maging hi hat? naisip ko na rin ito, pero hindi ko tinuloy. :)
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you mean sir splash cymbals ang gagamitin mo para maging hi hat? naisip ko na rin ito, pero hindi ko tinuloy. :)
mini hats to be exact bro, mine is 10" sh splash over 10" dh mini china.. :)
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mini hats to be exact bro, mine is 10" sh splash over 10" dh mini china.. :)
nice bro, ganyan din kaisip ko eh, naghanap pa ko ng 10" hats, pwede na pala ito.. :eek:
pipili na lang ako ng ok na combination. :-D
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oh ayan bro di tayo OT kasi may nadiscover ka sa thread na to..hehehe :lol:
experiment lang bro, at tulad ng lahat ng experiment may risk na involved, at syempre may reward. its either maganda or panget ang magiging kakalabasan ng combi mo.. :)
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oh ayan bro di tayo OT kasi may nadiscover ka sa thread na to..hehehe :lol:
experiment lang bro, at tulad ng lahat ng experiment may risk na involved, at syempre may reward. its either maganda or panget ang magiging kakalabasan ng combi mo.. :)
salamat bro. :-D
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you mean sir splash cymbals ang gagamitin mo para maging hi hat? naisip ko na rin ito, pero hindi ko tinuloy. :)
yup broddah!
Si idol Doc Jim (Aka mahikawon) naka Z custom splash 12 at K Splash 12 ata as his tertiary hats na nakaremote eh...
:lol:
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oh ayan bro di tayo OT kasi may nadiscover ka sa thread na to..hehehe :lol:
experiment lang bro, at tulad ng lahat ng experiment may risk na involved, at syempre may reward. its either maganda or panget ang magiging kakalabasan ng combi mo.. :)
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Di ko alam kung anu kakalabasan ng 12 china at 12 splash as a hats... pwedeng maging trash hihat? :lol:
kung hindi ko gusto at di bagay sa set up ko, pang choke ko nalang yung splash sa china ko tapos yung china, bahala na... bagay naman sya sa set-up eh... :)
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OT: Post mo naman bro yung full set-up mo... :-D
BTT: it doesnt matter kung anung top lines or models... kung minsan, lower lines/models sounds way better than the top ones... Example, K Custom Hybrid Trash Splash - di ko type talaga tunog neto... madamot sa projection at trash... on the other hand, stagg dh china splash 12"... panalong panalo... sarap...
Hehe wala pa ako picture nun kit ko sa harap. Mapicturan mamaya paguwi hehe. :D
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yes the adjustment options are endless, so, once you've established your preferred set up...the bad side of it is whenever you adjust or dismantle, it becomes very hard to re-assemble your kit exactly the way it was before it was dismantled. So, invest on memory locks, and use tapes or markers or whatever na pwedeng pang lagay ng tanda...even detailed pictures wil help...
kaya nagdadalawang isip ako pag may gusto akong subukan na adjustment kasi ang hirap na ibalik kung di ko nagustuhan.
I will keep that in mind sir...kailangan ko pala i-document at i-record in whatever ways ang settings ko ngayon..may na-discover na naman ako! Ayus!
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OT: Post mo naman bro yung full set-up mo... :-D
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/blindedfox/2012-02-06213401.jpg)
Ayan bro glen hehe. Kulang ako sa cymbal arms hehe. Di ba nagmukhang mamahalin un kit haha!
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(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/blindedfox/2012-02-06213401.jpg)
Ayan bro glen hehe. Kulang ako sa cymbal arms hehe. Di ba nagmukhang mamahalin un kit haha!
ganda ah!! the rack is really expensive tho!! :)
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I realized you don't need lots of stuff to be a good drummer.. :-D
hehe.. seryoso after 15 years of drumming.
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I realized you don't need lots of stuff to be a good drummer.. :-D
hehe.. seryoso after 15 years of drumming.
agree!! :)
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I realized you don't need lots of stuff to be a good drummer.. :-D
hehe.. seryoso after 15 years of drumming.
TAMA!!! Kahit 4 years palang yung experience ko ( wala pa sa kalahati niyo :eek:)
I can say na iba talaga kapag consistent or continuous yung praktis mo... :-D