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Title: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 04, 2007, 04:07:48 AM
Ever since I got this thing used...the other XLR jack or input 2 doesn't work. I've been recording with only one mic...using input 1....the disc came with a driver a WDM  1 in , 1 out.
Is it my driver? or is input 2 defective? Is there another driver that I can dowload free?

I am asking this 'coz I want to try dual mic recording sa amp ko.

thanks.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: xjepoyx on January 04, 2007, 04:23:09 AM
Is this it?

(http://www.tascam.com/Images/Banners/us224.jpg)

Your using Sonar Right?

If you wanna record 2 tracks at a time WDM Drivers doesnt do that you need ASIO. While googling about your hardware i saw that your gear supports ASIO 2.0.

You should try installing bossing Kit's suggestion the ASIO4ALL driver from asio4all.com

Hope it works
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 04, 2007, 04:47:47 AM
Is this it?

(http://www.tascam.com/Images/Banners/us224.jpg)

Your using Sonar Right?

If you wanna record 2 tracks at a time WDM Drivers doesnt do that you need ASIO. While googling about your hardware i saw that your gear supports ASIO 2.0.

You should try installing bossing Kit's suggestion the ASIO4ALL driver from asio4all.com

Hope it works
thanks jepoy...you RAWK!!!!
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: xjepoyx on January 04, 2007, 04:53:33 AM
No Problemo Amigo!


Peace!
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 04, 2007, 07:41:45 AM
No Problemo Amigo!


Peace!
so all I have to do is download it and install it. thanks. ....will try it tonight
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: KitC on January 04, 2007, 11:47:02 AM
This is unusual, Phil. WDM supports stereo or 2-channel recording at the very least. See if the WDM stream sums the 2 inputs into a single input driver. Usually, it will be a stereo/2-channel feed, but you can assign either the left or right channel to an individual mono track in Sonar.

Musta na Sonar 5 mo, Phil? I'm playing around with the VC-64 compressor in S6 and it's very good! Ung V-Vocal pa lang sa S5 e, sulit na! No need for Autotune.  :wink:
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 05, 2007, 01:34:08 AM
my DELL just screwed me. ayaw mag load ang Windows XP Media ko. You guys know how I can save  all my stuff in there in a disc or something tapos irestore ko na lang ang computer from the state when I first got it? DELL is telling me to do this.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: bugoy on January 05, 2007, 04:38:07 AM
phil, nung nasakin pa yang US224 ko wala ako naging problem nagagamit ko all inputs w/ the bundled WDM and ASIO drivers... baka sa settings mo lang sa sonar ang prob or baka yung unit mo mismo ang may problema... actually nung nag update ako nung latest drivers nila lalo ako nagkaproblema so i switched back na lang dun sa bundled driver and everything worked fine until i sold it to poundcake
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: KitC on January 05, 2007, 09:02:36 PM
my DELL just screwed me. ayaw mag load ang Windows XP Media ko. You guys know how I can save  all my stuff in there in a disc or something tapos irestore ko na lang ang computer from the state when I first got it? DELL is telling me to do this.

Can you boot in safe mode? Press F8 while windows is booting, after all the DOS screens. You should be able to transfer your files if you can enter safe mode.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 06, 2007, 01:36:33 PM
haaaaay...restore.....wipe out lahat....at least isang kanta lang ang nawala.

So how do I do this again? how can I use both inputs sa TASCAM ko?

Just settled for Sonar 4 PE right now.

any of you guys know where I can download Edirol VSC? I downloaded it once before...I can't find it anymore.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: KitC on January 06, 2007, 06:55:21 PM
any of you guys know where I can download Edirol VSC? I downloaded it once before...I can't find it anymore.

Don't bother. Sonar 4PE has TTS-1 which is practically the same.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 07, 2007, 01:50:43 AM
any of you guys know where I can download Edirol VSC? I downloaded it once before...I can't find it anymore.

Don't bother. Sonar 4PE has TTS-1 which is practically the same.
now heres a question...I have songs using the Edirol VSC...since wala na sa computer ko...when I open the file...it tells me na wala ang Edirol plug-in . Can I the TTS-1 as a replacement? or do I have to record it all over again using the TTS-1?
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: KitC on January 07, 2007, 06:04:14 PM
now heres a question...I have songs using the Edirol VSC...since wala na sa computer ko...when I open the file...it tells me na wala ang Edirol plug-in . Can I the TTS-1 as a replacement? or do I have to record it all over again using the TTS-1?

Just re-assign the midi output to TTS-1. There might be a slight difference with bank numbers (can't recall coz it's been a long time since I've even seen VSC). but it will work out fine. No need to re-record everything since midi is quite flexible, and besides, TTS-1 use the same Roland sounds (I just hate the synthy sounding snare).
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 08, 2007, 04:33:44 AM
now heres a question...I have songs using the Edirol VSC...since wala na sa computer ko...when I open the file...it tells me na wala ang Edirol plug-in . Can I the TTS-1 as a replacement? or do I have to record it all over again using the TTS-1?

Just re-assign the midi output to TTS-1. There might be a slight difference with bank numbers (can't recall coz it's been a long time since I've even seen VSC). but it will work out fine. No need to re-record everything since midi is quite flexible, and besides, TTS-1 use the same Roland sounds (I just hate the synthy sounding snare).
...now the million dollar question.....how do I do that?
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: KitC on January 08, 2007, 05:59:02 PM
When you open your Sonar project, it will warn you about the missing VSC. Just ok that message and proceed to load the project. Once you're in, open up the DXi rack and remove/delete VSC, load TTS-1. It will create 2 additional tracks by default, a synth output ttrack and a midi track assigned to the TTS-1 which you can disregard.

In your track view, expand the tracks until you see the midi output dropdown. Simply assign every midi track to the TTS-1 and you're done! If you've used up all 16 channels inn TTS-1 and you need more, just add another to the DXi rack and sequence to your heart's content, or do what I do and use a different synth altogether (some of my projects have 4 or 5 synths, a mix of hardware and software.).
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: skin on January 08, 2007, 10:36:50 PM
don't use asio4all for the tascam...maganda drivers niyan...baka sa setting lang ng recording mo...i have the 428 okay naman...if you're using sonar, choose mo lang sa input baka sa A pa rin ang input mo...it's okay to use WDM drivers...tingnan mo lang san hiyang yung pc...sa akin BSOD ako lagi if i use ASIO...
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 10, 2007, 02:45:19 AM
BAD TRIP!!...when I change my driver to ASIO ...nag e-error yung computer ko...it would hang then hindi maloload ang windows ko.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: xjepoyx on January 10, 2007, 03:49:44 AM
BAD TRIP!!...when I change my driver to ASIO ...nag e-error yung computer ko...it would hang then hindi maloload ang windows ko.

you should page boss KitC


"calling doctor coronel your needed in the ER"


:) ;)
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: skin on January 10, 2007, 09:10:36 AM
try to boot in safe mode...
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 10, 2007, 09:12:50 AM
doesn't work....had to uninstall my Sonar software. .....

my computers okay now after I took out the Sonar with the ASIO driver. I still have my Sonar 6 in my computer running WDM driver.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: KitC on January 10, 2007, 10:51:00 AM
BAD TRIP!!...when I change my driver to ASIO ...nag e-error yung computer ko...it would hang then hindi maloload ang windows ko.

Phil,

Are you using the US-224 with this? Or your new 1082? Checking with the Tascam forums reveals that Sonar plus asio with the tascam gives you the dreaded BSOD! Definitely a tascam driver problem, not Sonar's fault. Use WDM for now. Here's (http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=763918&mpage=2&key=return%2Ccrashing%F2%BB%98%9A) a thread in the Sonar forums about the problems you're facing.

Btw, are you using 16-bit or 24-bit asio drivers? try toggling between the 2 and come back on which works. My guess is 16-bit.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 10, 2007, 11:58:53 AM
....thanks pre.....good thing I haven't purchase the FW 1082 yet....I'm asking around the Cakewalk forums which firewire is good for Cakewalk.....would you happen to know of any?

I heard this one is the best....

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-RME-FIREFACE.html#
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 10, 2007, 12:25:05 PM
When you open your Sonar project, it will warn you about the missing VSC. Just ok that message and proceed to load the project. Once you're in, open up the DXi rack and remove/delete VSC, load TTS-1. It will create 2 additional tracks by default, a synth output ttrack and a midi track assigned to the TTS-1 which you can disregard.

In your track view, expand the tracks until you see the midi output dropdown. Simply assign every midi track to the TTS-1 and you're done! If you've used up all 16 channels inn TTS-1 and you need more, just add another to the DXi rack and sequence to your heart's content, or do what I do and use a different synth altogether (some of my projects have 4 or 5 synths, a mix of hardware and software.).
cool it works...now I am hearing cracks and pops....how do I get rid of it?
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 10, 2007, 02:05:45 PM
When you open your Sonar project, it will warn you about the missing VSC. Just ok that message and proceed to load the project. Once you're in, open up the DXi rack and remove/delete VSC, load TTS-1. It will create 2 additional tracks by default, a synth output ttrack and a midi track assigned to the TTS-1 which you can disregard.

In your track view, expand the tracks until you see the midi output dropdown. Simply assign every midi track to the TTS-1 and you're done! If you've used up all 16 channels inn TTS-1 and you need more, just add another to the DXi rack and sequence to your heart's content, or do what I do and use a different synth altogether (some of my projects have 4 or 5 synths, a mix of hardware and software.).
cool it works...now I am hearing cracks and pops....how do I get rid of it?
never mind I got rid of it. :-D
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: KitC on January 10, 2007, 03:24:34 PM
....thanks pre.....good thing I haven't purchase the FW 1082 yet....I'm asking around the Cakewalk forums which firewire is good for Cakewalk.....would you happen to know of any?

I heard this one is the best....

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-RME-FIREFACE.html#

It IS the best, but it ain't no DAW controller. You can opt for Behringer's BCF-2000 or M-Audio's Projectmix I/O (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ProjectMixIO/) if you need moving fader automation. A relatively cheaper solution would be RME's Fireface 400 (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Fireface400/) paired with Presonus' Faderport (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/PreSonus-FaderPort-Production-Control-Center?sku=241847) or Frontier Design's Alpha Track (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AlphaTrack/).
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: geetar_geek79 on January 10, 2007, 04:43:18 PM
....thanks pre.....good thing I haven't purchase the FW 1082 yet....I'm asking around the Cakewalk forums which firewire is good for Cakewalk.....would you happen to know of any?

I heard this one is the best....

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-RME-FIREFACE.html#

Awww.  That's a lot of money.  But who am I to judge pricing considering I own a Herbert...  lol!!!! :lol:

That's really pro level, Phil, at 192khz sampling, but I think you should go for the FW1082 for a more "hands-on" feel.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 11, 2007, 01:53:46 AM
....thanks pre.....good thing I haven't purchase the FW 1082 yet....I'm asking around the Cakewalk forums which firewire is good for Cakewalk.....would you happen to know of any?

I heard this one is the best....

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-RME-FIREFACE.html#

Awww.  That's a lot of money.  But who am I to judge pricing considering I own a Herbert...  lol!!!! :lol:

That's really pro level, Phil, at 192khz sampling, but I think you should go for the FW1082 for a more "hands-on" feel.
I'm kindda staying away from TASCAM now since their are a lot reports that it doesn't pair well with Cakewalk software...and I ONLY use Cakewalk. And I have a couple of problems with it too....using my NEW DELL computer.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: KitC on January 11, 2007, 03:34:11 AM
Phil,

I read that the deadly combination right now is the Intel 915 chipset plus tascam asio drivers and any version of Sonar. Look for CPUID or CPU-Z to help you identify the chipset of your Dell. In any event, I've read that the usb tascams are the problematic ones with asio and sonar. Will let you know if I find anything on their firewire interfaces.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 11, 2007, 08:53:52 AM
Phil,

I read that the deadly combination right now is the Intel 915 chipset plus tascam asio drivers and any version of Sonar. Look for CPUID or CPU-Z to help you identify the chipset of your Dell. In any event, I've read that the usb tascams are the problematic ones with asio and sonar. Will let you know if I find anything on their firewire interfaces.
yeah thanks Kit. Pero the FW-1082 interface nga .....may ASIO driver di right?

Just to make sure I'm gonna run that program to identify the chip in my computer.
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: skin on January 12, 2007, 12:59:55 PM
....thanks pre.....good thing I haven't purchase the FW 1082 yet....I'm asking around the Cakewalk forums which firewire is good for Cakewalk.....would you happen to know of any?

I heard this one is the best....

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-RME-FIREFACE.html#

Awww.  That's a lot of money.  But who am I to judge pricing considering I own a Herbert...  lol!!!! :lol:

That's really pro level, Phil, at 192khz sampling, but I think you should go for the FW1082 for a more "hands-on" feel.
I'm kindda staying away from TASCAM now since their are a lot reports that it doesn't pair well with Cakewalk software...and I ONLY use Cakewalk. And I have a couple of problems with it too....using my NEW DELL computer.

Tascam has problems with a VIA chipset...don't use ASIO if you're using Cakewalk...I prefer using WDM for Tascam and Sonar...try to avoid connecting other USB devices like Ipod, phones, usb hdd, etc...agawan sila kasi ng bandwidth sa USB...mouse puede...
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: Phil on January 12, 2007, 01:07:24 PM
....thanks pre.....good thing I haven't purchase the FW 1082 yet....I'm asking around the Cakewalk forums which firewire is good for Cakewalk.....would you happen to know of any?

I heard this one is the best....

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-RME-FIREFACE.html#

Awww.  That's a lot of money.  But who am I to judge pricing considering I own a Herbert...  lol!!!! :lol:

That's really pro level, Phil, at 192khz sampling, but I think you should go for the FW1082 for a more "hands-on" feel.
I'm kindda staying away from TASCAM now since their are a lot reports that it doesn't pair well with Cakewalk software...and I ONLY use Cakewalk. And I have a couple of problems with it too....using my NEW DELL computer.

Tascam has problems with a VIA chipset...don't use ASIO if you're using Cakewalk...I prefer using WDM for Tascam and Sonar...try to avoid connecting other USB devices like Ipod, phones, usb hdd, etc...agawan sila kasi ng bandwidth sa USB...mouse puede...
then why do they make computers with multiple USB ports?
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: skin on January 12, 2007, 02:45:33 PM
....thanks pre.....good thing I haven't purchase the FW 1082 yet....I'm asking around the Cakewalk forums which firewire is good for Cakewalk.....would you happen to know of any?

I heard this one is the best....

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-RME-FIREFACE.html#

Awww.  That's a lot of money.  But who am I to judge pricing considering I own a Herbert...  lol!!!! :lol:

That's really pro level, Phil, at 192khz sampling, but I think you should go for the FW1082 for a more "hands-on" feel.
I'm kindda staying away from TASCAM now since their are a lot reports that it doesn't pair well with Cakewalk software...and I ONLY use Cakewalk. And I have a couple of problems with it too....using my NEW DELL computer.

Tascam has problems with a VIA chipset...don't use ASIO if you're using Cakewalk...I prefer using WDM for Tascam and Sonar...try to avoid connecting other USB devices like Ipod, phones, usb hdd, etc...agawan sila kasi ng bandwidth sa USB...mouse puede...
then why do they make computers with multiple USB ports?

para marami ka ikabit...yun ang downside ng USB...yung 480Mbps eh nahahati din unlike yung firewire which is 400Mbps eh solo naman niya...kaya for multimedia apps eh mas maganda pa rin ang firewire...
Title: Re: TASCAM 224 help
Post by: bugoy on January 13, 2007, 12:43:28 AM
kaya maraming USB ports para pde mo pagsabay sabayin isaksak USB keyboars, USB mouse, USB webcam, USB drives at the same time... ako naka USB mouse and Keyboard ako at may webcam ako na USB din

....thanks pre.....good thing I haven't purchase the FW 1082 yet....I'm asking around the Cakewalk forums which firewire is good for Cakewalk.....would you happen to know of any?

I heard this one is the best....

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-RME-FIREFACE.html#

Awww.  That's a lot of money.  But who am I to judge pricing considering I own a Herbert...  lol!!!! :lol:

That's really pro level, Phil, at 192khz sampling, but I think you should go for the FW1082 for a more "hands-on" feel.
I'm kindda staying away from TASCAM now since their are a lot reports that it doesn't pair well with Cakewalk software...and I ONLY use Cakewalk. And I have a couple of problems with it too....using my NEW DELL computer.

Tascam has problems with a VIA chipset...don't use ASIO if you're using Cakewalk...I prefer using WDM for Tascam and Sonar...try to avoid connecting other USB devices like Ipod, phones, usb hdd, etc...agawan sila kasi ng bandwidth sa USB...mouse puede...
then why do they make computers with multiple USB ports?