Feel free to insert any brand in place of PRS. Lol :-D
:eek: actually dyan sana ako magtatanong, e since OT at iniwasan ko na mag post dyan sa thread na yan, hahabulin pdn pla ako ng dead sounding XD nuuuuuuuuu :eek:
all my life i've been part of that 98% XD
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: rowley75 on June 05, 2017, 08:16:23 PM
Fm55 started a thread a long time ago regarding hiyaw and ibanez guitars. It's here somewhere.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: nicoyow on June 06, 2017, 01:40:22 AM
Ibanez is love for shredders, not "hiyaw" finders. :idea:
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 05:17:26 AM
So far, I have not found an Ibanez guitar with hiyaw. I have not given up ... but really there are better shredder guitars than Ibanez. I suspect the culprit for Ibanez is the use of cheap woods or at least not up to par woods from guitars coming from the U.S.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: LaXter on June 06, 2017, 07:47:46 AM
May 'hiyaw' kaya yung guitars nina steve vai, joe satriani and the likes?
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: knet370 on June 06, 2017, 07:58:29 AM
May 'hiyaw' kaya yung guitars nina steve vai, joe satriani and the likes?
was wondering it myself..i watched before a clinic of joe in anaheim gc. he played an off the shelf ibanez js2400. sounded really good through an off the shelf jvm410H and cab. likewise vai when i was in japan. used an off the shelf jem (the one with the stock sustainiac). played the song whispering a prayer thru an off the shelf legacy amp + head. note for note it sounded really gooood..
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Skybox on June 06, 2017, 08:05:08 AM
May 'hiyaw' kaya yung guitars nina steve vai, joe satriani and the likes?
They don't need hiyaw coz they actually PLAY their guitars. They are not toy collectors like some of us here. :-D
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: knet370 on June 06, 2017, 08:43:51 AM
^makes sense. or they make their guitar sing. andy timmons comes into mind aswell. dude literally makes the guitar sing no matter what guitar he grabs. watched him aswell. borrowed a fan's gio and you know what happened next. he left the fan very inspired knowing that his gio can play notes really well provided that "tone is in the finger is applicable here"...
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 08:54:41 AM
was wondering it myself..i watched before a clinic of joe in anaheim gc. he played an off the shelf ibanez js2400. sounded really good through an off the shelf jvm410H and cab. likewise vai when i was in japan. used an off the shelf jem (the one with the stock sustainiac). played the song whispering a prayer thru an off the shelf legacy amp + head. note for note it sounded really gooood..
So bakit my EVO si Vai -- na up to now ay hindi ma-gaya ng Ibanez according to Steve Vai? At bakit may Chrome Boy si Satch, na sabi ni Joe: "Chrome boy was my favorite guitar"?
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 08:56:10 AM
But to be honest, that is more like a curse rather than a charm. But that's just me. I'll leave you to it.
Thats funny... Having the best sounding guitars is a curse? If so, then the rest are DOOMED!
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Skybox on June 06, 2017, 09:16:24 AM
Let's keep in mind that these guys actually PLAY guitar and actually MAKE music out of them. They don't use their guitars as status symbols on FB or in forums. They are musicians not toy collectors.
EVO + Vai = Magic
Evo in the hands of a toy collector = MEH
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Screamous on June 06, 2017, 09:19:17 AM
Fm55 started a thread a long time ago regarding hiyaw and ibanez guitars. It's here somewhere.
actually tinry ko muna i-search if meron, kaso sa dami ng thread naumay ako, i mean thru search bar kasi keyword lang nbabasa ng iba't ibang post at thread., kaya ayun., hehe
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Screamous on June 06, 2017, 09:36:46 AM
Fm55 started a thread a long time ago regarding hiyaw and ibanez guitars. It's here somewhere.
:wave: teka i think i found it, yun ba yung about sa EGEN18 vs. Jackson ata
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: gandydancer123 on June 06, 2017, 09:58:18 AM
siguro mga high end japan models..our bands guitarist has those tree of life, j custom things..he swears by them..one is a sixer and a 7 string...but for the cheapo entry level stuff gio, probably similar with low end squiers
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 10:19:29 AM
Let's keep in mind that these guys actually PLAY guitar and actually MAKE music out of them. They don't use their guitars as status symbols on FB or in forums. They are musicians not toy collectors.
EVO + Vai = Magic
Evo in the hands of a toy collector = MEH
Leo + No playing = Fender Guitars!
Its funny too. Leo Fender does not know how to play guitar yet you are using, and a lot of us are playing Fender Guitars. Ito pa ang masakit. We live out the misconception na Mas maganda pa ang Fender na Guitar kung ginawa sa panahon na nasa Fender pa si Leo.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 10:22:10 AM
Let's keep in mind that these guys actually PLAY guitar and actually MAKE music out of them. They don't use their guitars as status symbols on FB or in forums. They are musicians not toy collectors.
EVO + Vai = Magic
Evo in the hands of a toy collector = MEH
Actually that assertion is a partial truth, a great sounding guitar will still be a great sounding guitar in the hands of whoever plays it. Conversely, A bad sounding guitar will not make a great player sound better than great.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: rowley75 on June 06, 2017, 10:26:03 AM
siguro mga high end japan models..our bands guitarist has those tree of life, j custom things..he swears by them..one is a sixer and a 7 string...but for the cheapo entry level stuff gio, probably similar with low end squiers
I swear by those j.customs too! They play fking great! I miss mine though.. :roll:
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: marzi on June 06, 2017, 10:41:28 AM
Lumanog.
Pagkasaksak mo pa lang, humihiyaw na.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: red lights on June 06, 2017, 10:43:23 AM
So bakit my EVO si Vai -- na up to now ay hindi ma-gaya ng Ibanez according to Steve Vai? At bakit may Chrome Boy si Satch, na sabi ni Joe: "Chrome boy was my favorite guitar"?
kunwari ka pa nagka ibanez ka din nung nagsisimula ka pa lang devah?
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: red lights on June 06, 2017, 11:28:15 AM
Actually that assertion is a partial truth, a great sounding guitar will still be a great sounding guitar in the hands of whoever plays it. Conversely, A bad sounding guitar will not make a great player sound better than great.
In the hands of a toy collector? I doubt it.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 12:21:30 PM
Gil Yaron Les Paul B.C. Rich Mockingbird (made by BC Rich Junior) Suhr Carve Top Suhr Classic Suhr Modern Baker Firemodel 55 Baker Earthmodel 41 Baker SL Jackson Soloist Flamed Maple Select Jackson Kelly Custom Shop Jackson Chris Broderick Signature Gibson 335 Skulls Gibson SG USA Gibson 2016 59 Les Paul Historic Fender SRV Strat Fender 59 Telecaster -- Custom Shop Fender 2017 NAMM Butternut Tele -- Custom Shop Music Man Albert Lee Model Music Man Axis Sport PRS Custom 24 circa 1991
All of these guitars are with me TODAY and ALL of them have HIYAW.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 12:22:17 PM
Gil Yaron Les Paul B.C. Rich Mockingbird (made BC Rich Junior) Suhr Carve Top Suhr Classic Suhr Modern Baker Firemodel 55 Baker Earthmodel 41 Baker SL Jackson Soloist Flamed Maple Select Jackson Kelly Custom Shop Jackson Chris Broderick Signature Gibson 335 Skulls Gibson SG USA Gibson 2016 59 Les Paul Historic Fender SRV Strat Fender 59 Telecaster -- Custom Shop Fender 2017 NAMM Butternut Tele -- Custom Shop Music Man Albert Lee Model Music Man Axis Sport PRS Custom 24 circa 1991
All of these guitars are with me TODAY and ALL of them have HIYAW.
Dayum
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 12:26:23 PM
There is no other pattern except that they all have HIYAW. I don't collect. I take advantage when I find a great sounding guitar. So sue me, if you cannot accept the possibility that I know what I am talking about.
So don't put me down if you cannot even muster one tenth of the total budget I have put into guitars which ARE CURRENTLY ALL WITH ME and pretend to know better than me. And we still have NOT discussed the budget I have put into my guitar amps. And we still have NOT discussed the budget that I have put into effects. And ALL are with me.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: iamppej on June 06, 2017, 12:26:54 PM
Gil Yaron Les Paul B.C. Rich Mockingbird (made by BC Rich Junior) Suhr Carve Top Suhr Classic Suhr Modern Baker Firemodel 55 Baker Earthmodel 41 Baker SL Jackson Soloist Flamed Maple Select Jackson Kelly Custom Shop Jackson Chris Broderick Signature Gibson 335 Skulls Gibson SG USA Gibson 2016 59 Les Paul Historic Fender SRV Strat Fender 59 Telecaster -- Custom Shop Fender 2017 NAMM Butternut Tele -- Custom Shop Music Man Albert Lee Model Music Man Axis Sport PRS Custom 24 circa 1991
All of these guitars are with me TODAY and ALL of them have HIYAW.
amps. ang sarap nyan.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: red lights on June 06, 2017, 12:28:51 PM
Gil Yaron Les Paul B.C. Rich Mockingbird (made by BC Rich Junior) Suhr Carve Top Suhr Classic Suhr Modern Baker Firemodel 55 Baker Earthmodel 41 Baker SL Jackson Soloist Flamed Maple Select Jackson Kelly Custom Shop Jackson Chris Broderick Signature Gibson 335 Skulls Gibson SG USA Gibson 2016 59 Les Paul Historic Fender SRV Strat Fender 59 Telecaster -- Custom Shop Fender 2017 NAMM Butternut Tele -- Custom Shop Music Man Albert Lee Model Music Man Axis Sport PRS Custom 24 circa 1991
All of these guitars are with me TODAY and ALL of them have HIYAW.
syet! nakita ko na yung Gibson 335 skulls, panalo
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 12:39:31 PM
I think my argument is simple:
I have NOTHING to gain by telling you that only 1-2% of guitars sound great AND that you have to go thru ALL brands to find one. Why? I don't own any Signature Guitar. I am NOT sponsored by any brand. I do not own any musical instrument store nor am I a dealer of musical instruments. Wala akong banda o gig na for promotion.
All I am saying is what you ALL ALREADY know -- na pinipili ang gitara. Ang sinasabi ko lang ay dapat mas mahigpit kayo pumili para hindi kayo lokohin ng mga nagbebenta.
If I am wrong, then you have nothing to lose.
But if I am right, then you have all to gain because I can teach you how to find a great sounding guitar. But it comes at a price... you sometimes have to give up specifications, preferences and looks. On the other hand, sometimes these great guitars are beautiful in their own right that you had never thought about -- like my recently acquired Suhr Carve Top with a beautiful top chosen and speced out by no less than John Suhr (less than a month ago). Or as Strange a shape as the Albert Lee Model (acquired last week). Maybe, nothing closer to Van Halen than the Axis Sport (acquired last week). Maybe something unique and one off as the Fender NAMM Butternut Tele (acquired two weeks ago). Or maybe revisiting the possibility of a signature model that sounds great today -- the Fender SRV (acquired three weeks ago).
In a world where I am NOT limited by anything other than location, am I NOT the least biased to select a guitar? Compared to Skybox, who would you bet on to choose a better guitar?
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 06, 2017, 12:42:48 PM
Gil Yaron Les Paul B.C. Rich Mockingbird (made by BC Rich Junior) Suhr Carve Top Suhr Classic Suhr Modern Baker Firemodel 55 Baker Earthmodel 41 Baker SL Jackson Soloist Flamed Maple Select Jackson Kelly Custom Shop Jackson Chris Broderick Signature Gibson 335 Skulls Gibson SG USA Gibson 2016 59 Les Paul Historic Fender SRV Strat Fender 59 Telecaster -- Custom Shop Fender 2017 NAMM Butternut Tele -- Custom Shop Music Man Albert Lee Model Music Man Axis Sport PRS Custom 24 circa 1991
All of these guitars are with me TODAY and ALL of them have HIYAW.
Alex, pictures naman tayo jan hahaha would like to see some drool worthy guitars. btw, Duessenbergs, yay or nay?
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: queer_rocker on June 06, 2017, 12:57:56 PM
I have NOTHING to gain by telling you that only 1-2% of guitars sound great AND that you have to go thru ALL brands to find one. Why? I don't own any Signature Guitar. I am NOT sponsored by any brand. I do not own any musical instrument store nor am I a dealer of musical instruments. Wala akong banda o gig na for promotion.
All I am saying is what you ALL ALREADY know -- na pinipili ang gitara. Ang sinasabi ko lang ay dapat mas mahigpit kayo pumili para hindi kayo lokohin ng mga nagbebenta.
If I am wrong, then you have nothing to lose.
But if I am right, then you have all to gain because I can teach you how to find a great sounding guitar. But it comes at a price... you sometimes have to give up specifications, preferences and looks. On the other hand, sometimes these great guitars are beautiful in their own right that you had never thought about -- like my recently acquired Suhr Carve Top with a beautiful top chosen and speced out by no less than John Suhr (less than a month ago). Or as Strange a shape as the Albert Lee Model (acquired last week). Maybe, nothing closer to Van Halen than the Axis Sport (acquired last week). Maybe something unique and one off as the Fender NAMM Butternut Tele (acquired two weeks ago). Or maybe revisiting the possibility of a signature model that sounds great today -- the Fender SRV (acquired three weeks ago).
In a world where I am NOT limited by anything other than location, am I NOT the least biased to select a guitar? Compared to Skybox, who would you bet on to choose a better guitar?
Of course you have something to gain. You get to justify your purchases. :-D
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 06, 2017, 01:29:18 PM
Huh? Justify spending to myself... Why? I can afford it.
Yeah I think we all know that by now haha. Don't get me wrong, what you do with your hard earned money is none of my business. I'm just being playful. :-D
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: marzi on June 06, 2017, 03:39:25 PM
now where is that carlo valle guy when i need him most?
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: queer_rocker on June 06, 2017, 03:44:18 PM
I have NOTHING to gain by telling you that only 1-2% of guitars sound great AND that you have to go thru ALL brands to find one. Why? I don't own any Signature Guitar. I am NOT sponsored by any brand. I do not own any musical instrument store nor am I a dealer of musical instruments. Wala akong banda o gig na for promotion.
All I am saying is what you ALL ALREADY know -- na pinipili ang gitara. Ang sinasabi ko lang ay dapat mas mahigpit kayo pumili para hindi kayo lokohin ng mga nagbebenta.
If I am wrong, then you have nothing to lose.
But if I am right, then you have all to gain because I can teach you how to find a great sounding guitar. But it comes at a price... you sometimes have to give up specifications, preferences and looks. On the other hand, sometimes these great guitars are beautiful in their own right that you had never thought about -- like my recently acquired Suhr Carve Top with a beautiful top chosen and speced out by no less than John Suhr (less than a month ago). Or as Strange a shape as the Albert Lee Model (acquired last week). Maybe, nothing closer to Van Halen than the Axis Sport (acquired last week). Maybe something unique and one off as the Fender NAMM Butternut Tele (acquired two weeks ago). Or maybe revisiting the possibility of a signature model that sounds great today -- the Fender SRV (acquired three weeks ago).
In a world where I am NOT limited by anything other than location, am I NOT the least biased to select a guitar? Compared to Skybox, who would you bet on to choose a better guitar?
Well, on this point I agree with you. Strong points indeed.
I remember playing a historic Gibson, which made my Iron Label kiss its arse. It was not about the hiyaw but more about the feel and connection between me and the guitar.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Skybox on June 06, 2017, 05:11:37 PM
I have NOTHING to gain by telling you that only 1-2% of guitars sound great AND that you have to go thru ALL brands to find one. Why? I don't own any Signature Guitar. I am NOT sponsored by any brand. I do not own any musical instrument store nor am I a dealer of musical instruments. Wala akong banda o gig na for promotion.
All I am saying is what you ALL ALREADY know -- na pinipili ang gitara. Ang sinasabi ko lang ay dapat mas mahigpit kayo pumili para hindi kayo lokohin ng mga nagbebenta.
If I am wrong, then you have nothing to lose.
But if I am right, then you have all to gain because I can teach you how to find a great sounding guitar. But it comes at a price... you sometimes have to give up specifications, preferences and looks. On the other hand, sometimes these great guitars are beautiful in their own right that you had never thought about -- like my recently acquired Suhr Carve Top with a beautiful top chosen and speced out by no less than John Suhr (less than a month ago). Or as Strange a shape as the Albert Lee Model (acquired last week). Maybe, nothing closer to Van Halen than the Axis Sport (acquired last week). Maybe something unique and one off as the Fender NAMM Butternut Tele (acquired two weeks ago). Or maybe revisiting the possibility of a signature model that sounds great today -- the Fender SRV (acquired three weeks ago).
In a world where I am NOT limited by anything other than location, am I NOT the least biased to select a guitar? Compared to Skybox, who would you bet on to choose a better guitar?
Oh don't worry my dear. I will never pick a guitar for anyone. And besides, we don't choose the guitar, the guitar chooses us. :-D
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: anjoesatriani on June 06, 2017, 06:23:53 PM
-> Hos Down - Jason Richardson ft. Rick Graham
Listen around 5:09 guest solo of Rick Graham, to my ears, I do believe it's considered "hiyaw" and he's using his J.Custom Ibanez here. (for the TS)
P.S. Who gives a fck with a "hiyaw possessed" guitar if you sucked at playing anyway. :-D Nobody will approach you after your performance on stage and will say "damn those hiyaws!" :lol: Unless makalaglag panty yan, I will love to have one of the 1-2% :wink: :lol:
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: guitaricci on June 06, 2017, 10:28:59 PM
I think this Ibanez guitar had "hiyaw"...until the guitar player decided to cut parts of it. hehe
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA masaya magbasa ng CJV threads, lalo na yung mga buhat bangko posts niya HAHAHA
That guy is nuts! Gusto niya pa iprove na magnda tone nya through videos which always backfires cause the vids proves he has bad tone. Feeling ko confused lang sya sa definition ng technique and tone.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: burnsbhm on June 07, 2017, 12:47:38 AM
Been away for more than a year. Where can I find CJV?
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: nicoyow on June 07, 2017, 12:51:28 AM
^ musical instruments for sale fb group.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: firemodel55 on June 07, 2017, 05:29:47 AM
Listen around 5:09 guest solo of Rick Graham, to my ears, I do believe it's considered "hiyaw" and he's using his J.Custom Ibanez here. (for the TS)
P.S. Who gives a fck with a "hiyaw possessed" guitar if you sucked at playing anyway. :-D Nobody will approach you after your performance on stage and will say "damn those hiyaws!" :lol: Unless makalaglag panty yan, I will love to have one of the 1-2% :wink: :lol:
Conversely, if you have a sucky sounding guitar why would anybody care about (pay for ) your playing if you sound bad?
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: skrumian on June 07, 2017, 09:05:42 AM
like "out of the 98% guitars that don't have hiyaw, there 2% out there that have 'bulong'. and im glad i own one."
pero parang may video sya where in dinedemonstrate nya yung mga gitara na madaling mkpag pinch harmonics regardless sa anu mang pick-up, kung di ako nagkakamali, parang nsa position ata ng pick ups daw. tapos pnag kumpara nya yung Assembled RG nya with his home made pick ups at yung Joe Sat nya na gitara. aha, pag nachambahan ko na online ask ko yung hiyaw HAHAHA!
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: iamppej on June 07, 2017, 02:23:38 PM
pero parang may video sya where in dinedemonstrate nya yung mga gitara na madaling mkpag pinch harmonics regardless sa anu mang pick-up, kung di ako nagkakamali, parang nsa position ata ng pick ups daw. tapos pnag kumpara nya yung Assembled RG nya with his home made pick ups at yung Joe Sat nya na gitara. aha, pag nachambahan ko na online ask ko yung hiyaw HAHAHA!
nag ool padin ba sa fb un? alam ko my *cullt group* na sya sa fb nya ee.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Screamous on June 07, 2017, 02:35:53 PM
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Screamous on June 07, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
found him,
"Don Querubin"
nag pm na ako saknya if familiar sya sa Hiyaw, and eventually try na ma-invite sya dito? i mean ok lang ba yun? HAHA
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: marzi on June 07, 2017, 02:47:29 PM
di sasagot yan pag dito.
alam ko may mga supporters sya na nagrereport sa kanya ng mga usapan dito e.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Screamous on June 07, 2017, 03:03:55 PM
sorry sa OT kahit ako na ang TS.. so eto just now, nag message ako sknya,
Me: Familiar kba sa hiyaw?
Him: yup : hirap mkahanap ng ganyan sa guitar : "great build" ang mga ganyan : til now tinatawanan nila firemodel o alex : he is telling the truth : alex mismo ay naglilibot sa buo mundo to test his purchase
Me: ano ba definition ng hiyaw?
Him: hiyaw ay ang magandang resonance ng guitar at naturally "ring" sya na walang kahirap hirap : humihinga
Me: yung ibanez ba may hiyaw?
Him: mahirap masabi dahil bilang lang meron ganyan : at kailangan alam mo din controllin
Me: member kba ng philmusic?
(la pa reply)
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: marzi on June 07, 2017, 03:52:52 PM
di naman tinatawanan ni Firemodel55 yung hiyaw na usapan.
ayan nga at very willing sya i-discuss dito yung patungkol dyan.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: queer_rocker on June 07, 2017, 03:53:11 PM
di naman tinatawanan ni Firemodel55 yung hiyaw na usapan.
ayan nga at very willing sya i-discuss dito yung patungkol dyan.
parang ang ibig sbhn nya ata is tinatawanan si firemodel about sa hiyaw,
he keeps mentioning elegee though, "wla pa sa kapasidad tayong mga pilipino na mkgawa ng gitara na may hiyaw.." "ang kay alex kasi may pera sya and he speaks the truth,, madami galit sknya dahil hindi ba nila nasusubukan mga sabi nya e, lalo grupo ni elegee at galit sknya dahil masisira reputation nila"
ininvite ko sya ulit sa philmusic, then sabi nya nlang sken
"sbihin mo nlang na perho kami ng claim ni alex, add mo matt de leon msrap kausap yan pagdating sa hiyaw, mgksama sila ni alex a month ago sa pag hunting ng guitar"
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: dullFingers on June 07, 2017, 11:45:16 PM
Given the fact that I am not willing to spend that much on guitars, I personally would love to try one of fm55's axe and compare it to another guitar of the same model and see if my ears can distinguish the so called "hiyaw".
@Fm55 -- if you're planning to sell your Chris Broderick signature guitar send me a PM haha
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: analog.matt on June 08, 2017, 08:04:36 AM
But if I am right, then you have all to gain because I can teach you how to find a great sounding guitar. But it comes at a price... you sometimes have to give up specifications, preferences and looks. On the other hand, sometimes these great guitars are beautiful in their own right that you had never thought about -- like my recently acquired Suhr Carve Top with a beautiful top chosen and speced out by no less than John Suhr (less than a month ago). Or as Strange a shape as the Albert Lee Model (acquired last week). Maybe, nothing closer to Van Halen than the Axis Sport (acquired last week). Maybe something unique and one off as the Fender NAMM Butternut Tele (acquired two weeks ago). Or maybe revisiting the possibility of a signature model that sounds great today -- the Fender SRV (acquired three weeks ago).
In a world where I am NOT limited by anything other than location, am I NOT the least biased to select a guitar? Compared to Skybox, who would you bet on to choose a better guitar?
I actually gained a lot from Sir Alex.
madali naman solution sa isang "POV" na ayaw mong paniwalaan. you ignore.
but for me, the quest for tone was very real. i sincerely wanted to sound good. so despite what i've been hearing from different people at the time, i decided to EMPTY my cup. and contact FM55. diba nga sabi ni Bruce Lee: absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is specifically your own. but of course this should be done via experience and not theoretical construct. and in order to experience, your cup must be empty.
the first contact was whan i gave him my budget for an amp, and what was available in my State. i followed his suggestion and true enough, i was able to maximize my money.
the second contact came with my personal guitar. I brought the guitar to him. it was an Fender MIJ. then he said, na may Hiyaw. but moderately strong, all it needs is a matching amp. nagulat ako, sabi ko, sir alex, MIJ lang to, meron pala
then i remembered Sir Alex having written in this forum, na meron naman mahahanap sa lower price categories ---- maghahanap ka lang and it will take time and effort and it will be easier if you just go up sa price category. true enough. my friend and i went through hundreds of guitars para lang mahanap yung fender mij na yun....
but since binati ni alex yung MIJ ko, it became my measuring stick. dahil na realize ko, at narinig ko with my own ears, i sold almost all my MIJ and all my MIA guitars and made sure the guitars i buy must be night and day compared to the previous one. i had to make it like that, kasi ayaw ko magaya sa iba na paikot ikot lang pag dating sa gitara, pedals and amps...na tipong 10 years nang lumipas, nalilito pa din.
i wanted na linear lang ang growth ko. i bought a few guitars after that MIJ guitar. lahat sila malayo sa MIJ, night and day ba naman ang basehan bawat laktaw.
Am I happy? F**k yes!! I'm very happy and thankful i approached FM55. I'm happy na may nag gagabay sa personal kong journey.
kailangan lang maging honest sa sarili at sa dun sa gusto mo para sa sarili mo.
kailangan lang:
1. accurate perception and correct expression sa gusto natin makamit (goals) at sa mga bagay bagay sa paligid natin. single pointedness din sa goals 2. iwas sa mga blind na pakikisama. hindi porket may contra na sa isang tao, makiki contra ka na din. alamin mo din bakit sila kumocontra. kadalasan bitter lang. 3. mag basa ng mabuti. himayin ang sinusulat sa forums. example. ilang beses na kasi sinabi ni FM55 na hindi exclusive sa high end ang hiyaw. pero madami pa din naka focus sa sinabing high end. so in essence nagbabalat sibuyas sila...pwede naman mag banat ng buto at maghanap sa lower price categories but the truth is, mahihirapan ka talaga.
as for Ibanez, i was able to find an early ibanez prestige guitar. nakaka excite. but not as good as alex's guitars, not top 2% but still above average. natuwa ako doon. i would rate it as a bit over my MIJ (the one i mentioned above)
4. if you don't believe. be professional lang. just ignore and continue with life. yung bitter lang sa buhay ang maiingay. and yung bitter ang kadalasan nahihirapan umasenso.
kaya ngayon bihira na ako mag forum. masaya na ako. are my guitars like alex? nope. hindi sila top 2% iba talaga ganda ng mga gitara ni alex. but the point is, im happy and ang LAYO ko na sa sarili ko noon.
magandang araw sa inyong lahat!
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Skybox on June 08, 2017, 08:30:19 AM
madali naman solution sa isang "POV" na ayaw mong paniwalaan. you ignore.
but for me, the quest for tone was very real. i sincerely wanted to sound good. so despite what i've been hearing from different people at the time, i decided to EMPTY my cup. and contact FM55. diba nga sabi ni Bruce Lee: absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is specifically your own. but of course this should be done via experience and not theoretical construct. and in order to experience, your cup must be empty.
the first contact was whan i gave him my budget for an amp, and what was available in my State. i followed his suggestion and true enough, i was able to maximize my money.
the second contact came with my personal guitar. I brought the guitar to him. it was an Fender MIJ. then he said, na may Hiyaw. but moderately strong, all it needs is a matching amp. nagulat ako, sabi ko, sir alex, MIJ lang to, meron pala
then i remembered Sir Alex having written in this forum, na meron naman mahahanap sa lower price categories ---- maghahanap ka lang and it will take time and effort and it will be easier if you just go up sa price category. true enough. my friend and i went through hundreds of guitars para lang mahanap yung fender mij na yun....
but since binati ni alex yung MIJ ko, it became my measuring stick. dahil na realize ko, at narinig ko with my own ears, i sold almost all my MIJ and all my MIA guitars and made sure the guitars i buy must be night and day compared to the previous one. i had to make it like that, kasi ayaw ko magaya sa iba na paikot ikot lang pag dating sa gitara, pedals and amps...na tipong 10 years nang lumipas, nalilito pa din.
i wanted na linear lang ang growth ko. i bought a few guitars after that MIJ guitar. lahat sila malayo sa MIJ, night and day ba naman ang basehan bawat laktaw.
Am I happy? F**k yes!! I'm very happy and thankful i approached FM55. I'm happy na may nag gagabay sa personal kong journey.
kailangan lang maging honest sa sarili at sa dun sa gusto mo para sa sarili mo.
kailangan lang:
1. accurate perception and correct expression sa gusto natin makamit (goals) at sa mga bagay bagay sa paligid natin. single pointedness din sa goals 2. iwas sa mga blind na pakikisama. hindi porket may contra na sa isang tao, makiki contra ka na din. alamin mo din bakit sila kumocontra. kadalasan bitter lang. 3. mag basa ng mabuti. himayin ang sinusulat sa forums. example. ilang beses na kasi sinabi ni FM55 na hindi exclusive sa high end ang hiyaw. pero madami pa din naka focus sa sinabing high end. so in essence nagbabalat sibuyas sila...pwede naman mag banat ng buto at maghanap sa lower price categories but the truth is, mahihirapan ka talaga.
as for Ibanez, i was able to find an early ibanez prestige guitar. nakaka excite. but not as good as alex's guitars, not top 2% but still above average. natuwa ako doon. i would rate it as a bit over my MIJ (the one i mentioned above)
4. if you don't believe. be professional lang. just ignore and continue with life. yung bitter lang sa buhay ang maiingay. and yung bitter ang kadalasan nahihirapan umasenso.
kaya ngayon bihira na ako mag forum. masaya na ako. are my guitars like alex? nope. hindi sila top 2% iba talaga ganda ng mga gitara ni alex. but the point is, im happy and ang LAYO ko na sa sarili ko noon.
magandang araw sa inyong lahat!
Mukhang maganda ang delivery nya sayo bro. Kung ganun din sana sha dito sa forums baka mas maraming post na katulad nito. Ok lang na he sucks at guitar playing. Wag lang sana sa pakikipagkapwa.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Screamous on June 08, 2017, 10:04:17 AM
madali naman solution sa isang "POV" na ayaw mong paniwalaan. you ignore.
but for me, the quest for tone was very real. i sincerely wanted to sound good. so despite what i've been hearing from different people at the time, i decided to EMPTY my cup. and contact FM55. diba nga sabi ni Bruce Lee: absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is specifically your own. but of course this should be done via experience and not theoretical construct. and in order to experience, your cup must be empty.
the first contact was whan i gave him my budget for an amp, and what was available in my State. i followed his suggestion and true enough, i was able to maximize my money.
the second contact came with my personal guitar. I brought the guitar to him. it was an Fender MIJ. then he said, na may Hiyaw. but moderately strong, all it needs is a matching amp. nagulat ako, sabi ko, sir alex, MIJ lang to, meron pala
then i remembered Sir Alex having written in this forum, na meron naman mahahanap sa lower price categories ---- maghahanap ka lang and it will take time and effort and it will be easier if you just go up sa price category. true enough. my friend and i went through hundreds of guitars para lang mahanap yung fender mij na yun....
but since binati ni alex yung MIJ ko, it became my measuring stick. dahil na realize ko, at narinig ko with my own ears, i sold almost all my MIJ and all my MIA guitars and made sure the guitars i buy must be night and day compared to the previous one. i had to make it like that, kasi ayaw ko magaya sa iba na paikot ikot lang pag dating sa gitara, pedals and amps...na tipong 10 years nang lumipas, nalilito pa din.
i wanted na linear lang ang growth ko. i bought a few guitars after that MIJ guitar. lahat sila malayo sa MIJ, night and day ba naman ang basehan bawat laktaw.
Am I happy? F**k yes!! I'm very happy and thankful i approached FM55. I'm happy na may nag gagabay sa personal kong journey.
kailangan lang maging honest sa sarili at sa dun sa gusto mo para sa sarili mo.
kailangan lang:
1. accurate perception and correct expression sa gusto natin makamit (goals) at sa mga bagay bagay sa paligid natin. single pointedness din sa goals 2. iwas sa mga blind na pakikisama. hindi porket may contra na sa isang tao, makiki contra ka na din. alamin mo din bakit sila kumocontra. kadalasan bitter lang. 3. mag basa ng mabuti. himayin ang sinusulat sa forums. example. ilang beses na kasi sinabi ni FM55 na hindi exclusive sa high end ang hiyaw. pero madami pa din naka focus sa sinabing high end. so in essence nagbabalat sibuyas sila...pwede naman mag banat ng buto at maghanap sa lower price categories but the truth is, mahihirapan ka talaga.
as for Ibanez, i was able to find an early ibanez prestige guitar. nakaka excite. but not as good as alex's guitars, not top 2% but still above average. natuwa ako doon. i would rate it as a bit over my MIJ (the one i mentioned above)
4. if you don't believe. be professional lang. just ignore and continue with life. yung bitter lang sa buhay ang maiingay. and yung bitter ang kadalasan nahihirapan umasenso.
kaya ngayon bihira na ako mag forum. masaya na ako. are my guitars like alex? nope. hindi sila top 2% iba talaga ganda ng mga gitara ni alex. but the point is, im happy and ang LAYO ko na sa sarili ko noon.
magandang araw sa inyong lahat!
Wow wake up call, hehe, pag uwi ko ng pinas by january mag laan ako ng time for hiyaw quest, HAHA hindi man ako mkabili, ma experience man lang kung ano ang pakiramdam ng gitara na may hiyaw,. hopefully ibanez, :-D
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: marzi on June 08, 2017, 10:16:27 AM
he keeps mentioning elegee though, "wla pa sa kapasidad tayong mga pilipino na mkgawa ng gitara na may hiyaw.."
yan nga problema eh. Elegee is on a quest to be world-class. kung wala man ngayon, he may one day unlock the secrets to achieving that hiyaw in his creations. kung tinatalangka sya ng kapwa pinoy, ang hirap ng break though nya sa international market.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: red lights on June 08, 2017, 10:23:07 AM
sorry sa OT kahit ako na ang TS.. so eto just now, nag message ako sknya,
Me: Familiar kba sa hiyaw?
Him: yup : hirap mkahanap ng ganyan sa guitar : "great build" ang mga ganyan : til now tinatawanan nila firemodel o alex : he is telling the truth : alex mismo ay naglilibot sa buo mundo to test his purchase
Me: ano ba definition ng hiyaw?
Him: hiyaw ay ang magandang resonance ng guitar at naturally "ring" sya na walang kahirap hirap : humihinga
Me: yung ibanez ba may hiyaw?
Him: mahirap masabi dahil bilang lang meron ganyan : at kailangan alam mo din controllin
Me: member kba ng philmusic?
(la pa reply)
takot yan mag-member dito, may kalyo kasi gitara nya
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Skybox on June 08, 2017, 10:29:05 AM
yan nga problema eh. Elegee is on a quest to be world-class. kung wala man ngayon, he may one day unlock the secrets to achieving that hiyaw in his creations. kung tinatalangka sya ng kapwa pinoy, ang hirap ng break though nya sa international market.
The Elegee booth at NAMM looked great this year and people loved their basses. Looks like Jon is on the right path.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Screamous on June 08, 2017, 11:04:48 AM
yan nga problema eh. Elegee is on a quest to be world-class. kung wala man ngayon, he may one day unlock the secrets to achieving that hiyaw in his creations. kung tinatalangka sya ng kapwa pinoy, ang hirap ng break though nya sa international market.
good point sir, siguro si CVJ e nakuntento nlang siguro sa kaya nyang gawin, yan din kasi problema satin mga pinoy, even here, npka competitive, hehe
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: worshiper16 on June 08, 2017, 12:36:10 PM
my gantong usapan din pala dito.
Title: Re: Do Ibanez Guitars have "Hiyaw"?
Post by: Skybox on June 08, 2017, 01:03:43 PM
magugulat na lang tayo at may darating na bagong "sugo" na bubulag sa katotohanan, magpapabaluktot ng ating mga isipan, at syempre dont forget the 10% of your income