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Title: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: BAMF on March 14, 2007, 12:23:17 AM

when you can build it right inside your guitar ?

My RJ PRS - Panggatong Really Sya

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4017/1000701fa1.jpg)

And there's the low-noise, FET-based 6dB clean booster
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/720/1000703gw2.jpg)

True Bypass, switched in and out via a push-pull potentiometer knob

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/259/1000704kl4.jpg)

The boards are being manufactured as we speak. It will be hitting the streets soon.

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: trem3 on March 14, 2007, 12:30:30 AM

Genius ka talaga sir BAMF!

ganda ng finish ng gitara din...

sir kung may time kayo, gusto ko sana makita ang headstock din ng gitara yan...

maraming salamat!

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: IncX on March 14, 2007, 12:31:10 AM

wow!

nice one bamf! ... i cant wait to hear this. talk about making your guitar "Active"

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: Al_Librero on March 14, 2007, 12:46:03 AM

nice. clean boosters are often overlooked. players should really take the time to fool around with one, if they haven't yet.

this had been a long standing debate in my own head. an internal boost circuit definitely has its appeal and advantages. but i eventually opted for a pedal for the following reasons:

1. i wouldn't need a circuit for each of my guitar and wouldn't be bummed if i needed to use someone else's. one circuit in a compact enclosure solves that.

2. my favored booster circuit has two knobs and a toggle switch, all of which i tweak with some regularity. installing those on a guitar (plus the battery and circuit board) isn't really appealing to me. but i suppose this point is moot if all you need is a simple clean boost which you do not need to tweak.

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: deadlifted on March 14, 2007, 12:59:01 AM

wow! cool! :-D may suggestion ako: pwede bang makagawa ng microamp type? meaning variable boost from say 6-20dB?

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: badongrodrigs on March 14, 2007, 01:16:53 AM

6dB volume boost by just a switch? :-)

sir jobet pa PM saken ng probable damage/cost. :-D

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: soulfeather on March 14, 2007, 04:41:14 AM

Man this guitar Rocks!!! I saw this in the March Hazy Nights EB at purple haze... grabe ang ganda ng tunog...

I remember Sir BAMF said that it has 3 scalarizers in it, the Metal, Crystal and the Acoustic. Not to mention the boost at a pop of the POT.
Well that is if I remember everything that he said while I was drinking... hehehe

Ang nipis lang nung guitar body pero ang ganda talaga ng tunog... I was wondering if it was the PUPs but I guess it's stock....

O did I forget to mention na Ang Ganda ng Tunog? hmmmm  :-D :-D :-D

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: nuno on March 14, 2007, 05:54:40 AM

Quote from: soulfeather on March 14, 2007, 04:41:14 AM

Man this guitar Rocks!!! I saw this in the March Hazy Nights EB at purple haze... grabe ang ganda ng tunog...

I remember Sir BAMF said that it has 3 scalarizers in it, the Metal, Crystal and the Acoustic. Not to mention the boost at a pop of the POT.
Well that is if I remember everything that he said while I was drinking... hehehe

Ang nipis lang nung guitar body pero ang ganda talaga ng tunog... I was wondering if it was the PUPs but I guess it's stock....

O did I forget to mention na Ang Ganda ng Tunog? hmmmm  :-D :-D :-D

di siya stock bro... its a P300 pickup sa JB but bamf injected some streroids on it kaya ganun yun! and im DEAD SERIOUS man! :evil:

alamat ka tlga BAMF!!! :evil:

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: alroyT on March 14, 2007, 06:07:24 AM

My EC blackie has a 28db boost with a turn of a knob.It really cuts through the mix.

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: psychic_sushi on March 14, 2007, 06:16:54 AM

this thing can circumcise the uninitiated when you pull on that knob to engage the boost!  :-D

i couldn't believe the punch and gain we got through the amp when  was messing with it. less tap dancing and more fingering  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: soulfeather on March 14, 2007, 06:19:48 AM

Quote from: nuno on March 14, 2007, 05:54:40 AM

Quote from: soulfeather on March 14, 2007, 04:41:14 AM

Man this guitar Rocks!!! I saw this in the March Hazy Nights EB at purple haze... grabe ang ganda ng tunog...

I remember Sir BAMF said that it has 3 scalarizers in it, the Metal, Crystal and the Acoustic. Not to mention the boost at a pop of the POT.
Well that is if I remember everything that he said while I was drinking... hehehe

Ang nipis lang nung guitar body pero ang ganda talaga ng tunog... I was wondering if it was the PUPs but I guess it's stock....

O did I forget to mention na Ang Ganda ng Tunog? hmmmm  :-D :-D :-D

di siya stock bro... its a P300 pickup sa JB but bamf injected some streroids on it kaya ganun yun! and im DEAD SERIOUS man! :evil:

alamat ka tlga BAMF!!! :evil:

I see.... so this is the famouse P300 JB pickup that i've read in the other thread.... yung masaya! hehehe  :-D
Peace!!!  :-D

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: dvd9 on March 14, 2007, 08:20:41 AM

Quote from: BAMF on March 14, 2007, 12:23:17 AM

when you can build it right inside your guitar ?

My RJ PRS - Panggatong Really Sya

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4017/1000701fa1.jpg)

And there's the low-noise, FET-based 6dB clean booster
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/720/1000703gw2.jpg)

True Bypass, switched in and out via a push-pull potentiometer knob

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/259/1000704kl4.jpg)

The boards are being manufactured as we speak. It will be hitting the streets soon.

ganda talaga ng RJ clones!

maka bisita nga sa RJ at ma temp mapa GAS

I believe sa RJ guitars both quality sa finish and sa tone..tapos hagurin pa ng mod "active" woot! :-o

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: sanchai on March 14, 2007, 08:23:21 AM

WOW!    :-o   lufet nyan sir BAMF!   magpapakabit ako nyan   :-D

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: abyssinianson on March 14, 2007, 08:30:49 AM

Caparison has clean booster options in their guitars if you want them but theirs comes in a pull/push pot assembly. Mine came with one and it works well with my AC Booster to cut through the mix. From what I understand, they can tailor your cavity assembly to suit your needs if they already don't have a guitar out that can work for 'ya.

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: sanchai on March 14, 2007, 08:33:28 AM

Sir BAMF...pwede pakabit ng capacitor na even when i turn my volume sa guitar down eh hindi magbabago ang gain?

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: chito_eoi on March 14, 2007, 08:48:01 AM

isa ata ko sa mga unang nka test nito sa hive  :mrgreen:
c'mon jobet... post the damage that this can do in our wallet and lets do another history!!!

what you created is another MONSTER!!!

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: dvd9 on March 14, 2007, 08:54:34 AM

sir BAMF....ask ko lang how many years does the 9v battery last?

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: tumorwarrior on March 14, 2007, 09:11:59 AM

very interesting :D pwede kayang push/pull pot switchable bypass para sa booster at scalarizer?

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: oloc on March 14, 2007, 10:19:38 AM

congratz sir BAMF! seems to me that you have established your own solid reputation in DIY/MOD field. sana tuloy tuloy na yan. so far, ang nakikita kong reaction dito is..

..... IF IT'S FROM BAMF, IT MUST BE GOOD! ..... ( or great, or awesome for that matter  :-)   )

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: vegetablejoe on March 14, 2007, 12:59:18 PM

Hi Jobet,

Congrats on another great product! Tanong lang: fixed at 6db yung boost? or variable?

Have been looking for an inexpensive equivalent to the 25db active midboost in the Fender EC and Buddy Guy signature strats. If this does the same, then I'll be waiting in line for mine!

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: markflo on March 14, 2007, 02:27:04 PM

Quote from: sanchai on March 14, 2007, 08:33:28 AM

Sir BAMF...pwede pakabit ng capacitor na even when i turn my volume sa guitar down eh hindi magbabago ang gain?

bomalabs ata mangyari yun meng...kelangan kasi para sa ganun after the distortion ang volume control eh...eh kung ganun eh di kelangan yung distortion asa loob din ng gitara mo

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: titser_marco on March 14, 2007, 03:41:28 PM

Quote from: alroyT on March 14, 2007, 06:07:24 AM

My EC blackie has a 28db boost with a turn of a knob.It really cuts through the mix.

Man, thats' REALLY LOUD. DIY? Share ng schematics!

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: toybitz on March 14, 2007, 04:13:56 PM

Quote from: sanchai on March 14, 2007, 08:33:28 AM

Sir BAMF...pwede pakabit ng capacitor na even when i turn my volume sa guitar down eh hindi magbabago ang gain?

is this the same as treble bleeding?

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: soulfeather on March 14, 2007, 08:25:42 PM

Sir BAMF,

Magkano damage nito pag nag pakabit ng gizmo mo?  :-D

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: BAMF on March 14, 2007, 10:59:49 PM

Around P500 lang, but board lang yun.

I just might (depende sa usapan) consign units with Elegee para sya na mag-install.

But that doesnt include the pull-push pot, which also costs P500 as well.

Without a way to switch it in, it will turn on the moment you plug in a cable into the guitar. Then just control the level with the volume control.

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: soulfeather on March 14, 2007, 11:44:45 PM

OK sa Alright!!!! yeah  :-D

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: chito_eoi on March 15, 2007, 01:03:06 AM

500 lang pala, just like buying a set of strings....
sign me up BAMF!, let me have those on my guitarsssss!!!

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: erniebong on March 15, 2007, 05:22:44 PM

henyo ka sir, (ganda pala result nung keeley mod brod) salamat!

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: nathanmanansala on March 15, 2007, 09:40:23 PM

next project should be an fx loop sa guitar for people like me who put their OD boost after the distortion pedal where its more effective as a volume boost. tas extra controls for dialing in extra dirt and the boost's own tone control. so basically, its a guitar with a built in OD and fx loop. :lol:

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: RonnieA on March 15, 2007, 09:50:06 PM

Hi Guys,

   I tested this guitar with the booster last EB--ang lakas and there was no effect on the brilliance. The nuances of the guitar and the Narra body--lumabas pa rin. AND to think the pick-up used are just your average stock pickups....

    Jobet magkano ulit yung PUPs?? :-D

  Highly recommended!!!!

   RonnieA

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: erniebong on March 16, 2007, 10:02:24 AM

6 db is just ryt for solo boosting, kasi in the real world the perception of loudness doubles every 6db increase, so 20 to 28 db increase will be really loud. our ears naturally percieve sound exponentially. galing nyan BAMF realistic ang design at application.

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: skunkyfunk on March 16, 2007, 10:40:16 AM

Quote from: BAMF on March 14, 2007, 12:23:17 AM

when you can build it right inside your guitar ?

My RJ PRS - Panggatong Really Sya

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4017/1000701fa1.jpg)

And there's the low-noise, FET-based 6dB clean booster
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/720/1000703gw2.jpg)

True Bypass, switched in and out via a push-pull potentiometer knob

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/259/1000704kl4.jpg)

The boards are being manufactured as we speak. It will be hitting the streets soon.

Question lang sir.  Is the boost built-in with the guitar?  I was wondering if the boost was made to increase volume (for leads) but in my case, I do a lot of high gain stuff... so will engaging the boost just mush up the distortion?

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: BAMF on March 16, 2007, 11:46:09 AM

Yup. And considering that a guitar signal is about 1 volt p-p, a 28 dB gain will no longer be a clean boost. The battery (assuming 9 volts) will not allow it.

Quote from: erniebong on March 16, 2007, 10:02:24 AM

6 db is just ryt for solo boosting, kasi in the real world the perception of loudness doubles every 6db increase, so 20 to 28 db increase will be really loud. our ears naturally percieve sound exponentially. galing nyan BAMF realistic ang design at application.

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: erniebong on March 16, 2007, 11:48:38 AM

MISMO! BAMF

Sky;  since this is pre distortion syempre madadagdagan yung saturation mo sa input stage ng pedal mo. syempre kapag sumobra ka naman sa gain noise at loss of detail ang pwedeng mangyari. kaya nga sa palagay ko d best tong booster ni Bamf kasi 6DB lang Just ryt.

Bamf PM mo naman sakin schemes nyan prototype ko pag may time ako, may iba pa kasi siya application bukod sa solo boost, pede cya pang compensate sa long cable runs at saka line driver. DUDE interesado talaga ako sa design mo na yan.

Title: Re: Who needs a pedal booster
Post by: BAMF on March 16, 2007, 12:05:54 PM

Long cable run ? Actually that's what I did for my Tele and Les Paul...a unity gain current driver. Dali lang, and it only needs 3 parts: 1 FET, 1 10 k resistor and one coupling capacitor.

But for reference here's a FET preamp small enough to fit inside a cable, used to drive long cables.

http://www.till.com/articles/PreampCable/index.html