Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread

[peeves24]

mga sirs, pede pa bang matono nang maayos yung 14" snare ko .. kaso 6 lugs lang sya .. kung palitan ko ng heads, mag iimprove kaya yung tunog nya ? ganun din sa 16" floor tom ko .. 6 lugs lang din

wala sa lugs yan bro. basta maayos pa lahat ng pyesa ng snare mo, matotono mo yan

[cokeandjahsmoke]

me. magandang combo yan, mas buo and malalim yung tunog compared sa single ply batter+reso head combination IMO. may option ka din to go with coated 2-ply batter heads for a warmer sound.

bossing, anong 2-ply drum heads ba ma recommend mo? gusto ko din sana yung coated kaso after some time nagiging madumi yung heads eh..

[Riff_6603]

bossing, anong 2-ply drum heads ba ma recommend mo? gusto ko din sana yung coated kaso after some time nagiging madumi yung heads eh..

like what glennaui said, remo emperors maganda pero subjective pa din sa tenga yun. try checking online reviews, youtube pati soundclips para makakuha ka ng idea kung anong 2 ply head yung pasok sa sound preference mo.

[gss]

mga sir maiba ako...in drum tuning...what would you trust more, a drum dial or your ears? I've tried tuning with and without a drum dial...kaso minsan kahit pareho ang reading sa drum dial per lug, magkakaiba yung tono per lug...so i fine-tune the lugs using my ears after using a drum dial. Is this a good drum tuning practice?

[pmack]

mga sir maiba ako...in drum tuning...what would you trust more, a drum dial or your ears? I've tried tuning with and without a drum dial...kaso minsan kahit pareho ang reading sa drum dial per lug, magkakaiba yung tono per lug...so i fine-tune the lugs using my ears after using a drum dial. Is this a good drum tuning practice?

ears.
yes, ok na practice yung tuning with a dial and then fine-tuning with your ears.
darating yung time na you can tune with your ears na lang wala nang drum dial, which i think, should be everyone's target.

[cokeandjahsmoke]

mga sir maiba ako...in drum tuning...what would you trust more, a drum dial or your ears? I've tried tuning with and without a drum dial...kaso minsan kahit pareho ang reading sa drum dial per lug, magkakaiba yung tono per lug...so i fine-tune the lugs using my ears after using a drum dial. Is this a good drum tuning practice?

bro, ok lng naman gumamit ng drumdial, honestly it helps to equal the tension of the lugs, and it helps para mag last yung drum heads.. but pero sa tuning you really need to develop tuning by ear, coz drumdial can't give you a tone at all, you may have a tone kng perfect yung bearing edge mo but mostly it only helps equal the tension.... what i do, i use drumdial to equal the tension para mas mabilis then totono ko nlng by ear then kng ma achieve mo na yung gusto mong sound, take note mo nlng yung tension ng each lug para sa next mas mabilis... but check mo muna bearing edge mo kng equal, baka needed na yun ng trimming... paayos mo nlng kng di pantay, meron dito sa philmusic ask mo lng ibang members.. search mo nlng sa net kng panu itroubleshoot ang bearing edge.. i hope nakatulong ako..

[gss]

thanks for the thoughts sirs cokeandjahsmoke and pmack...i agree that the final target is to tune them by ear, assist lang ang dial kasi mas mabilis nga, may jumpstart so to speak...my kit is relatively new and since di pa masyado kinukutingting except for 1 change of heads so far, i would think na ok pa yung bearing edges

[cokeandjahsmoke]

Question lng po.. Sino na po ba dito yung nakatry na mag palit ng tension rods? At may naka try na ba dito na pinalitan yung tension rods ng allen bolt, same size, din sa tension rods.. so instead na drum key yung gamitin for tuning eh, allen screw driver na yung gamit? Same pa rin ba yung tuning ng drums? I was thinking of modding my kit... Need your opinions...

[Riff_6603]

Question lng po.. Sino na po ba dito yung nakatry na mag palit ng tension rods? At may naka try na ba dito na pinalitan yung tension rods ng allen bolt, same size, din sa tension rods.. so instead na drum key yung gamitin for tuning eh, allen screw driver na yung gamit? Same pa rin ba yung tuning ng drums? I was thinking of modding my kit... Need your opinions...

as long as even tension ang head, i can't see why not!

[dolfmen]

hello guys tanong ko lang kung ano tiningn nyo na bagay sa 14x6.5 na batter head? remo cs o evand hd dry salamat kung may idea din kayo sa price ayos yun!! 

[Riff_6603]

hello guys tanong ko lang kung ano tiningn nyo na bagay sa 14x6.5 na batter head? remo cs o evand hd dry salamat kung may idea din kayo sa price ayos yun!! 

ano ba sound habol mo? given the depth of the shell; kapag remo cs, punch without much overtones. kapag HD dry naman, crisp without much overtones..

[dolfmen]

yung tamang tunog ng arcade fire, medyo punchy yung tunog medyo dry ata eh hehe di ko lang sure, basta medyo solid yung body, tama ba? vp na snare gamit ko, yung head naka kabit pinstipe na coated.  thanks!

[glennaui]

I just wanna share my what I have just experienced on tuning my Toms... ... I posted it on "What skin is best for toms" thread
... Di napansin na meron pala ito...


http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,96486.25.html

[Riff_6603]

yung tamang tunog ng arcade fire, medyo punchy yung tunog medyo dry ata eh hehe di ko lang sure, basta medyo solid yung body, tama ba? vp na snare gamit ko, yung head naka kabit pinstipe na coated.  thanks!

HD dry pasok bro, ST dry pala yung nasa isip ko na crisp sounding hehe!

[dolfmen]

HD dry pasok bro, ST dry pala yung nasa isip ko na crisp sounding hehe!

may idea ka ba kung magkano yung presyuhan nyan ngayon? salamat bro!

[Riff_6603]

may idea ka ba kung magkano yung presyuhan nyan ngayon? salamat bro!

no idea hehe! try inquiring sa jb..

[ronald_rko]

Hi! my friends is looking for drumheads... can you give me some advices in buying drumheads (brands, where to buy, and price ranges) ..

Thanks Philmusic!

[Riff_6603]

Hi! my friends is looking for drumheads... can you give me some advices in buying drumheads (brands, where to buy, and price ranges) ..

Thanks Philmusic!

things to consider when buying heads:

1.) how much are you willing to shell out?
2.) what sound are you after?

madali ka na namin matutulungan after mo ma-specify yung details!

[plitipiw40315]

mga idol, suggest naman kayo ng pinaka da-best na drumhead for my catalina maple.. preferred ko na brand is REMO, at pang all around genre sana, yung pinaka versatile..thank!! 

[musicianurse28]

mga idol, suggest naman kayo ng pinaka da-best na drumhead for my catalina maple.. preferred ko na brand is REMO, at pang all around genre sana, yung pinaka versatile..thank!! 

Master plitipiw40315 gayahin ko lang po yung post niyo. Pareho po kasi tayo ng gustong mangyari eh at Catalina Maple rin po yung kit ko

mga idol, suggest naman kayo ng pinaka da-best na drumhead for my catalina maple.. preferred ko na brand is EVANS, at pang all around genre sana, yung pinaka versatile..thanks!! 

[plitipiw40315]

Master plitipiw40315 gayahin ko lang po yung post niyo. Pareho po kasi tayo ng gustong mangyari eh at Catalina Maple rin po yung kit ko

hehe..no problem bro..up lang natin yung tanong natin... 

[Riff_6603]

mga idol, suggest naman kayo ng pinaka da-best na drumhead for my catalina maple.. preferred ko na brand is REMO, at pang all around genre sana, yung pinaka versatile..thank!! 

Master plitipiw40315 gayahin ko lang po yung post niyo. Pareho po kasi tayo ng gustong mangyari eh at Catalina Maple rin po yung kit ko

mga idol, suggest naman kayo ng pinaka da-best na drumhead for my catalina maple.. preferred ko na brand is EVANS, at pang all around genre sana, yung pinaka versatile..thanks!! 

wala pang skin na ginagawa na "versatile" hehe subjective kasi sa tenga ng tao ang tunog na pasok sa genre of choice. but anyways, here are a couple of tried and tested tips IMO

1.) Snare:
batter - single ply coated (Remo Ambassador / Evans G1)
reso - single ply clear (Remo Ambassador or Diplomat / Evans Hazy 200 or 300)

2.) Toms:
batter - double ply or single ply with overtone control ring (clear or coated) (Remo Emperor, Pinstripe or Powerstroke 3 / Evans G2, EC2, Genera or Hydraulic)
reso - single ply (clear or coated) (Remo Ambassador / Evans G1)

3.) Bass:
batter - single ply with overtone control ring or double ply (clear or coated) (Remo Powerstroke 3 or Powersonic / Evans EQ4, EMAD, GMAD, EMAD2)
reso - single ply with overtone control ring (Remo Powerstroke 3 / Evans EQ3 or REMAD)   

[mahikawon666]

wala pang skin na ginagawa na "versatile" hehe subjective kasi sa tenga ng tao ang tunog na pasok sa genre of choice. but anyways, here are a couple of tried and tested tips IMO

1.) Snare:
batter - single ply coated (Remo Ambassador / Evans G1)
reso - single ply clear (Remo Ambassador or Diplomat / Evans Hazy 200 or 300)

2.) Toms:
batter - double ply or single ply with overtone control ring (clear or coated) (Remo Emperor, Pinstripe or Powerstroke 3 / Evans G2, EC2, Genera or Hydraulic)
reso - single ply (clear or coated) (Remo Ambassador / Evans G1)

3.) Bass:
batter - single ply with overtone control ring or double ply (clear or coated) (Remo Powerstroke 3 or Powersonic / Evans EQ4, EMAD, GMAD, EMAD2)
reso - single ply with overtone control ring (Remo Powerstroke 3 / Evans EQ3 or REMAD)   

thanks MASTER RIFF malaking tulong to ..balak ko magpalit ng evans g2 sa toms ko

[phelep]

gusto ko makuha tunog neto kaso di ko magawa.. im using remo pinstripe clear.
suggestion naman mga sir.. lutong kase ng tunog eh..

[Riff_6603]

gusto ko makuha tunog neto kaso di ko magawa.. im using remo pinstripe clear.
suggestion naman mga sir.. lutong kase ng tunog eh..

clarify ko lang, sa snare or sa toms? kung sa snare, mag-single ply coated batter ka then tune it a little higher sa reso. kung sa toms, tune the reso a little higher sa batter. hindi siya 100% same sounding though since recorded tracks are cleaner than live, but it may come close to the sound your looking for.