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Offline Ralph_Petrucci

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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #575 on: December 03, 2013, 12:14:42 PM »
Hello there Drum Masters! :wave:

I have a Sonor 507 standard set, and i am planning to replace the stock heads of my toms, as much as possible i would like to get a great sound without putting on muffler rings any recommendations and advice for me  :? Budget would be around 2K.Thanks in advance! :mrgreen:


Brother man! kung pang bahay siya and gusto mo lang bawasan yung Overtones niya, (aka yung tunog "atiatihan"), siguro I'd suggest you replace them with two-ply heads/hydraulic heads. :) with these heads kasi, minimal, if not none existent na halos yung overtones. :)

sa budget mo, pwede mong itry palitan yung heads mo nung LAZER na 2ply heads. i think kasya sa budget mo yun :) baka swertehin ka pa, may mga REMO Encore din sila dun for cheap. :) try mo lang din dumaan :)
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #576 on: December 11, 2013, 08:30:04 PM »
Hello there Drum Masters! :wave:

I have a Sonor 507 standard set, and i am planning to replace the stock heads of my toms, as much as possible i would like to get a great sound without putting on muffler rings any recommendations and advice for me  :? Budget would be around 2K.Thanks in advance! :mrgreen:

Uhm... Try 2ply batter head sa lazer. If may kaunti pang cash, try mo magpalit ng reso. :-D
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #577 on: December 11, 2013, 10:36:26 PM »

Brother man! kung pang bahay siya and gusto mo lang bawasan yung Overtones niya, (aka yung tunog "atiatihan"), siguro I'd suggest you replace them with two-ply heads/hydraulic heads. :) with these heads kasi, minimal, if not none existent na halos yung overtones. :)

sa budget mo, pwede mong itry palitan yung heads mo nung LAZER na 2ply heads. i think kasya sa budget mo yun :) baka swertehin ka pa, may mga REMO Encore din sila dun for cheap. :) try mo lang din dumaan :)

Sir!I'll try this one, yes nagtanong tanong din ako about sa suggestions mo and i did get a lot of good feedbacks about it. just a quick questionm what brand will that be?remo or something generic?anyway, i'll try and go and purchase it as soon as possible. Many THANKS! :mrgreen:
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #578 on: December 11, 2013, 10:37:13 PM »
Uhm... Try 2ply batter head sa lazer. If may kaunti pang cash, try mo magpalit ng reso. :-D

Definetely going to try it. Thanks for the info! :)
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #579 on: December 12, 2013, 11:51:02 AM »
Sir!I'll try this one, yes nagtanong tanong din ako about sa suggestions mo and i did get a lot of good feedbacks about it. just a quick questionm what brand will that be?remo or something generic?anyway, i'll try and go and purchase it as soon as possible. Many THANKS! :mrgreen:


Hello Bro! LAZER carries their own Drumheads tagged with the LAZER Brand Names, and they also Carry Remo Encores (Remo Encores are the budget friendly, entry level heads made by remo for the economical market).

As far as I know sir, LAZER Drum Heads are supplied by REMO ENCORE as well. yung mga nabili ko kasing LAZER Heads for my friends kit, may tatak na rin ng REMO Encore sa baba eh :D

Kung talagang ayaw mo nung Overtones, bili ka na rin ng O-ring Mufflers! :D

Hope this helps bro!
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Meron ba dito naging successful sa pag tune ng generic snare reso head?
« Reply #580 on: December 17, 2013, 07:47:09 PM »
A week ago bumili ako ng lazer snare reso to replace a broken one (Pearl stock). Pumili ako nung pinaka pantay yung pagkaka-kabit ng skin sa rim. Napansin ko lang na laging bumababa yung tension niya everyday nung kinabit ko. Proper naman ang pag seat ko at hindi naman high tension ang ginagawa ko. Hanggang ngayong umaga bumigay na yung isang side niya. Hindi naman napunit. pero sobrang stretched na yung isang side. Lagpas na sa drum hoop yung skin.

Hindi naman drums ang main instrument ko kaya hindi pasok sa budget yung mga branded reso heads. Libangan ko lang sa bahay.

Tanong ko lang kung possible ba na may usable na generic reso head? May specific generic brand ba akong dapat bilhin?

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Re: Meron ba dito naging successful sa pag tune ng generic snare reso head?
« Reply #581 on: December 17, 2013, 11:37:18 PM »
You get what you pay for.

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Re: Meron ba dito naging successful sa pag tune ng generic snare reso head?
« Reply #582 on: December 18, 2013, 12:23:03 PM »


Sir, as far as I have experienced, wala pa naman akong nararanasang Snare Reso Head na nagstretch or nadeform kasi usually naman, maluwag tayo sa reso lagi. Mapa-lazer or remo, so far naman no bad experiences.

pwede ring nasa tuning method niyo din sir? try buying the REMO UT or Encore heads sa lazer and re-tune your snare again. if this happens again sir baka nasa tuning method niyo po.

pag hindi naman po, baka lemon lang talaga yung nakuha niyong lazer head. minsan hit or miss talga sila eh.
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #583 on: February 17, 2014, 08:50:25 AM »
good day mga chif, kahapon napadaan ako ng jb bago umuwi galing binyag, napabili ako ng remo ambassador clear(wlang makitang coated) para sa snare(impluse buy i admit may amats kasi)


pero nung nakabit ko paguwi ko takte ang sarap sa tenga kaysa dun sa kasamang remo china nung drumset, kahit kaninang umaga na wala na akong amats maganda talaga sa pandinig ko kahit alam kong mali pa ang tono nun haha.

ngayon nangangate akong palitan lahat ng heads ng tom at reso nung snare, ano ba marerecommend nyo? ito naiisip ko

snare emperor batter na,  ambassador snare side 3mil
toms emperor batter, ambassador standard 10mil



bass drum head no idea pero saka na siguro




di ko pa sure kung ano gusto kong tunog since di panaman ako magaling, gusto ko lang yung pinaka standard na setup ng karamihan.

salamat ng marami, btw cheapo fernando drums lang gamit ko if that matters sa selection, thanks ulit!




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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #584 on: February 17, 2014, 09:52:52 AM »
good day mga chif, kahapon napadaan ako ng jb bago umuwi galing binyag, napabili ako ng remo ambassador clear(wlang makitang coated) para sa snare(impluse buy i admit may amats kasi)


pero nung nakabit ko paguwi ko takte ang sarap sa tenga kaysa dun sa kasamang remo china nung drumset, kahit kaninang umaga na wala na akong amats maganda talaga sa pandinig ko kahit alam kong mali pa ang tono nun haha.

ngayon nangangate akong palitan lahat ng heads ng tom at reso nung snare, ano ba marerecommend nyo? ito naiisip ko

snare emperor batter na,  ambassador snare side 3mil
toms emperor batter, ambassador standard 10mil



bass drum head no idea pero saka na siguro




di ko pa sure kung ano gusto kong tunog since di panaman ako magaling, gusto ko lang yung pinaka standard na setup ng karamihan.

salamat ng marami, btw cheapo fernando drums lang gamit ko if that matters sa selection, thanks ulit!








So far so good naman sa head choices bro, pero for the toms, you might wanna consider yung REMO PINSTRIPE. tapos mas manipis ng onti na reso para mas humihinga yung toms mo :)

for the Bassdrum, PowerStroke3 siguro sir. :)

Yung sa snare naman, Emperors are great for snares, lalo na yung coated, pero keep in mind bawas ang overtones niya, so pag sa open venue mo siya gagamitin, magtutunog dead siya. so, you might want to look at the Remo Coated Controlled Sound (Reverse Dot) makapal, pero hindi naman sobra :)

two cents langs sir :)
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #585 on: February 17, 2014, 11:06:37 AM »


So far so good naman sa head choices bro, pero for the toms, you might wanna consider yung REMO PINSTRIPE. tapos mas manipis ng onti na reso para mas humihinga yung toms mo :)

for the Bassdrum, PowerStroke3 siguro sir. :)

Yung sa snare naman, Emperors are great for snares, lalo na yung coated, pero keep in mind bawas ang overtones niya, so pag sa open venue mo siya gagamitin, magtutunog dead siya. so, you might want to look at the Remo Coated Controlled Sound (Reverse Dot) makapal, pero hindi naman sobra :)

two cents langs sir :)

Thanks chif, sa reso ng toms ambassador na yung 10mil(na batter ng snare) or meron kang specific na marerecommend?

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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #586 on: February 17, 2014, 11:19:30 AM »
Thanks chif, sa reso ng toms ambassador na yung 10mil(na batter ng snare) or meron kang specific na marerecommend?

Mas manipis sana papi. para mas mag ring yung toms. :)
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #587 on: February 17, 2014, 11:23:49 AM »
Mas manipis sana papi. para mas mag ring yung toms. :)

ah para kasing ang nakikita ko lang sa remo ambassadors eh 10ply, 3ply saka yung isang klase na 2ply, di kaya masyado manipis yung 3ply?

btw clear na emperor yung nasa snare, pero nasa bahay lang naman yun sarado pa kwarto kaya ikot na ikot yung tunog

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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #588 on: February 17, 2014, 11:39:59 AM »
ah para kasing ang nakikita ko lang sa remo ambassadors eh 10ply, 3ply saka yung isang klase na 2ply, di kaya masyado manipis yung 3ply?

btw clear na emperor yung nasa snare, pero nasa bahay lang naman yun sarado pa kwarto kaya ikot na ikot yung tunog


Mil ata yung sinasabi mo bro, ply means layer so kung ten ply yun, wala na, pwede na gawing pinggan yun hahaha! :) anyway, mas okay talaga sa reso ang manipis bro. 3Mil sounds good. tapos thick batters parang emperor, pinstripe at powerstrokes. :)
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #589 on: February 17, 2014, 01:34:40 PM »

Mil ata yung sinasabi mo bro, ply means layer so kung ten ply yun, wala na, pwede na gawing pinggan yun hahaha! :) anyway, mas okay talaga sa reso ang manipis bro. 3Mil sounds good. tapos thick batters parang emperor, pinstripe at powerstrokes. :)

haha sorry i got mixed up, MIL yun dapat angkapal nga nun kung 10ply,

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papalitan ko muna ng coated emperor yung snare saka ambasador hazy reso para masubukan ko kung ok din sya, yung ambs clear ilagay ko muna sa tom masubukan muna yung tunog. salamat ulit

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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #590 on: February 17, 2014, 03:01:50 PM »
haha sorry i got mixed up, MIL yun dapat angkapal nga nun kung 10ply,

PERO

papalitan ko muna ng coated emperor yung snare saka ambasador hazy reso para masubukan ko kung ok din sya, yung ambs clear ilagay ko muna sa tom masubukan muna yung tunog. salamat ulit




maganda yang Emperor + Hazy Combination :D I think you will like that :D
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #591 on: February 17, 2014, 09:30:51 PM »
Any thoughts on Aquarian's power trio?  :)

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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #592 on: February 18, 2014, 08:43:15 AM »
sayang wlang coated emperor sa jb fairview, hazy lang na clear nabili ko(wla ring coated kaya nawiwirdohan tuloy ako kita ko na yung snare stand  :eek: )

yung sa tunog di ko ma explain pero gustong gusto ko sya, tapos kada pihit nag iiba yung tono kung ano gusto ko, hindi katulad ng una parang 1 settings lang, ngayon marami nang setting magaganda pa sa tenga.

kaso ganun pala talaga yun, nagkabit ako sa salas namin, pagpasok ko sa kwarto nag adjust ulit ako malaki pala tlga epekto ng kwarto sa maririnig mo, open kasi yung salas while yung kwarto wala maski bintana, pintuan lang na may konting sound proofing

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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #593 on: February 18, 2014, 09:49:57 AM »
sayang wlang coated emperor sa jb fairview, hazy lang na clear nabili ko(wla ring coated kaya nawiwirdohan tuloy ako kita ko na yung snare stand  :eek: )

yung sa tunog di ko ma explain pero gustong gusto ko sya, tapos kada pihit nag iiba yung tono kung ano gusto ko, hindi katulad ng una parang 1 settings lang, ngayon marami nang setting magaganda pa sa tenga.

kaso ganun pala talaga yun, nagkabit ako sa salas namin, pagpasok ko sa kwarto nag adjust ulit ako malaki pala tlga epekto ng kwarto sa maririnig mo, open kasi yung salas while yung kwarto wala maski bintana, pintuan lang na may konting sound proofing

Exactly brother man, Like I said earlier, the sound will change depending on the venue variables (i.e. Open Venues, Small Room, Halls, etc.) so you have to consider that when you're replacing your drum heads.

So, nagustuhan mo yung Hazy as reso? :D


wala talagang coated emperor jan kay JB, pwede ka magpaorder pero nasa 1.5k - 1.8k as far as I recall. =))
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #594 on: February 18, 2014, 09:55:45 AM »
Any thoughts on Aquarian's power trio?  :)


Hey man, The Power Trio is a set of Aquarian Triple Threat (Snare), Force Ten (Toms), Super Kick-10). So far, I've heard the Triple Threat and Force Ten.

my thoughts on these are:

Triple Threat = Remo Emperor X Coated
Force Ten = Remo Pinstripes


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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #595 on: February 18, 2014, 09:59:14 AM »
Exactly brother man, Like I said earlier, the sound will change depending on the venue variables (i.e. Open Venues, Small Room, Halls, etc.) so you have to consider that when you're replacing your drum heads.

So, nagustuhan mo yung Hazy as reso? :D


wala talagang coated emperor jan kay JB, pwede ka magpaorder pero nasa 1.5k - 1.8k as far as I recall. =))

yep, me gusta  :mrgreen:, mukang magiging wierd lahat tingnan kung walng coated na heads para sa toms, isa isahin ko nlng palitan para makabisado ko tunog at kaibahan, ayaw ko munang bumalik ng jb baka mapakaskas ng cymbal mahirap na masisira budget :cry:

ngapala, gusto ko ng malinis na "pak" yng parang pinupukpok na kahoy,  3-4 full turns past finger tight yung ginawa ko sa batter, mga 2-3 naman sa reso katakot bka mapunit. yung wire hinigpitan ko ng husto hirap nnga i lock. hindi ko pa na eexperimentohan masyado kagabi, hays hirap ng malayo ang bahay hindi maenjoy ang hilig
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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #596 on: February 18, 2014, 10:16:54 AM »
yep, me gusta  :mrgreen:, mukang magiging wierd lahat tingnan kung walng coated na heads para sa toms, isa isahin ko nlng palitan para makabisado ko tunog at kaibahan, ayaw ko munang bumalik ng jb baka mapakaskas ng cymbal mahirap na masisira budget :cry:

ngapala, gusto ko ng malinis na "pak" yng parang pinupukpok na kahoy,  3-4 full turns past finger tight yung ginawa ko sa batter, mga 2-3 naman sa reso katakot bka mapunit. yung wire hinigpitan ko ng husto hirap nnga i lock. hindi ko pa na eexperimentohan masyado kagabi, hays hirap ng malayo ang bahay hindi maenjoy ang hilig

Told you :D hahahaha love the Hazy Reso! hahaha!

Hmmmm... ano bang specs nung snare mo? Size, Depth, shell material?
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #597 on: February 18, 2014, 11:01:03 AM »
Told you :D hahahaha love the Hazy Reso! hahaha!

Hmmmm... ano bang specs nung snare mo? Size, Depth, shell material?

yung standard 14 ng fernando

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Re: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread
« Reply #598 on: February 18, 2014, 11:48:13 AM »
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha