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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #150 on: May 17, 2011, 01:03:16 PM »
Iba iba ang sukatan ng iba ibang tao sa galing ng isang guitarist, there is always a debate or difference of opinions. But there is one thing that differentiate a good guitarist from a bad one, and that is "Praise" from your peers, your fellow guitarist.

Iba kasi iyng praise sa audience, showmanship ang madalas pinupuri, from a musician point of view, its the technique and skill ang tinitingnan, iyng tightness with the band. How a simple scale pattern is used to greatly enhance a groove. And the humbleness of musician as a person.

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #151 on: May 17, 2011, 04:33:51 PM »
ACCURACY  :-)
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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #152 on: May 17, 2011, 04:48:07 PM »
Wala.

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #153 on: May 17, 2011, 04:52:33 PM »
yung feelings

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« Reply #154 on: May 17, 2011, 05:15:52 PM »
Wala.
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wala. kung magaling, magaling.


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« Reply #155 on: May 17, 2011, 05:19:26 PM »
Yung haba ng long hair.

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« Reply #156 on: May 17, 2011, 05:20:57 PM »
Eto yung nirerecommend ng Berklee na daananan ng sinumang gustong gumaling sa Classic Rock Guitar Playing

Lesson 1: The Minor Pentatonic Scale, Basic Solo Technique, and the Blues Influence on Classic Rock
The Minor Pentatonic Scale
Minor Pentatonic Scale Rhythmic Groupings
The Blues Progression
Real World Blues Examples

Lesson 2: Eric Clapton: Bluesbreakers through Cream
Biography
"Steppin' Out"
"Crossroads"
"White Room"
"Badge"

Lesson 3: Eric Clapton: Derek and the Dominos and Solo Work
"Layla"
"I Shot the Sheriff"/The Natural Minor Scale
"Old Love"/Aeolian Mode
"Cocaine"/Mixolydian Mode

Lesson 4: Jimmy Page/Led Zeppelin
Biography
"Good Times Bad Times"
"What Is and What Should Never Be"
"The Ocean"
"Ten Years Gone"

Lesson 5: Jimmy Page/Led Zeppelin—Open Tunings and Acoustic Work
"Dancing Days"
"Kashmir"
"Over The Hills and Far Away"
"The Rain Song"—Original Page Open Tuning

Lesson 6: The Allman Brothers and the Major Pentatonic Scale
Biography
The Major Pentatonic Scale in Five Positions
Combining Major and Minor Pentatonic
"Blue Sky"
"In Memory of Elizabeth Reed"
"One Way Out"
"Melissa"

Lesson 7: Modes for the Rock Guitarist
What Are Modes?
Modes in Position (Vertical)
Modes Up and Down the Neck (Horizontal)
Sequences—Triplets and Sixteenth Note Patterns—In Position and Up and Down the Neck
Modal Jam Recipe/Create Your Own Modal Jam

Lesson 8: David Gilmour and Pink Floyd
Biography
"Time"
"Money"
"Another Brick In The Wall" (Part 2)
"Comfortably Numb"

Lesson 9: Jeff Beck
Biography
"Rock My Plimsoul"
"Freeway Jam"
"Cause We've Ended As Lovers"
"Come Dancing"

Lesson 10: Jimi Hendrix
Biography
"Purple Haze"
"Red House"
"Little Wing"
"The Wind Cries Mary"

Lesson 11: Jimi Hendrix
"All Along the Watchtower"
"Spanish Castle Magic"
"Bold As Love"
"Voodoo Chile"

Lesson 12: Modern Masters
Joe Satriani: "Flying In A Blue Dream"
Eric Johnson: "Cliffs Of Dover"
Steve Vai: "For the Love of God"


Siguro kung kaya mo yan or kahit equivalent nyan na papasa kahit hindi sa standards ng Berklee kahit 75% passing mark. e magaling ka na. Ganun din para sa jazz guitar o....


Lesson 1: Major Modes & Chord Scales and Harmonic Minor Review
Major Modes and Learning the Fretboard
Fifth Mode of Harmonic Minor [7(b9b13)]
Dom7(b9 13)
Introduction to Transcription
Great Performances: "All the Things You Are" by Grant Green
Great Performances: Sonny Rollins Solo on "All the Things You Are"
Great Performances: John Scofield Solo on "All the Things You Are"

Lesson 2: Modes of the Melodic Minor Scale
Modes of the Melodic Minor Scale
Time Feel, Swing Feel, and Subdivision
Melodic Minor (1st mode), Melodic Minor Scale Rhythmic Subdivision
Lydian b7 Scale
The Locrian n2 Scale
The Altered Scale
Great Performances: Charlie Parker's "Moose the Mooch"

Lesson 3: Continuity: Across the Bar Line Phrasing
Creating Continuity via Scales, Intervals and Arpeggios across the Bar Line
Major Modes across the Bar Line
Harmonic Minor Mode 5 (Mixolydian b9b13) across the Bar Line
Melodic Minor across the Bar Line
Great Performances: Peter Bernstein Solo On "Eronel"

Lesson 4: Blues in Jazz Continued
Review Charlie Parker Blues Form
Bebop Scale Review
Harmonic Anticipation and the Bebop Scale
Adding Tension to Basic 12-Bar Blues with the Altered Scale and Harmonic Minor
Coltrane Blues Variations
Great Performances: John Coltrane's "Take The Coltrane"
Great Performances: Charlie Parker "Visa"
Great Performances: Wes Montgomery's "No Blues"

Lesson 5: Rhythm Changes
Rhythm Changes: A Short History
Basic Rhythm Changes
Tonic/Approach, Continuity, Harmonic Minor, Harmonic Anticipation
The Complete A Section
Adding the Secondary Dominant
The Bridge—Lydian b7
Great Performances: Sonny Rollins, Sonny Stitt, Dizzy Gillespie's "Eternal Triangle," John Scofield's "Wee"
Great Performances: Miles Davis and John Coltrane's "Oleo"

Lesson 6: Pentatonic Scales
Pentatonic Scales in Jazz
Review of Minor 7 Pentatonic and Its Uses
The Dominant 7 Pentatonic Scale
The Major (b6) Pentatonic Scale
Mixed Pentatonics on Major and Minor Blues Progressions
Great Performances: Joe Henderson's "Recorda Me"

Lesson 7: The Diminished Scale
The Whole-Half and Half-Whole Diminished Scales
The Half-Whole Diminished Scale and Its Relationship to the 7(b9) Chord
Secondary Dominant Exercises
Diminished Scale Patterns
Triads and Diminished Chords and Scales
Great Performances: Peter Bernstein Solo on "It Happens"

Lesson 8: Phrasing, Dynamics, and Rhythm & Jazz Guitar Comping
Using Space
"Play/Rest" Exercises
Rhythmic Groupings
Dynamics
Comping Rhythms
Great Performances: Jim Hall's "John S."
Great Performances: Kurt Rosenwinkel's "Pannonica"

Lesson 9: John Coltrane's "Moment's Notice"
The First Eight Measures
Across the Bar Line on the First Eight Measures
Easy Chord Voicings for "Moment's Notice"
John Coltrane's Solo on "Moment's Notice"
Great Performances: Mark Turner's "Moment's Notice"
Great Performances: Mike Stern's "Moment's Notice"

Lesson 10: John Coltrane—The Coltrane Matrix ("Giant Steps" )
"Giant Steps" Matrix
Arpeggios, Approach Notes, and Four-Note Motives—Analyzing Coltrane's solo
Using the Whole-Tone Scale on the Matrix
Applying Coltrane Changes to Other Songs
Great Performances: John Coltrane's "But Not For Me"
Great Performances: Jochen Ruckert's "Satellite"
Great Performances: Wolfgang Muthspiel's "Giant Steps"

Lesson 11: Contemporary Jazz Guitarists (Jim Hall, John Scofield, Bill Frisell, Pat Metheny)
Harmonic and Melodic Characteristics of Each
The Importance of Sound and Time
Blending Jazz, Blues, Rock, and Funk Styles
Analysis of Selected Excerpts from Each Guitarist

Lesson 12: Nonfunctional Harmony, Contemporary Jazz Guitar, and Slash Chords
Nonfunctional Harmony Progressions
Slash Chords and the ECM Compositional Style
Modern Jazz Guitar
Modern Jazz Guitar Composition

Yan ang pinagisipan nilang sukatan para sa kanila ng isang magaling na gitarista. Good not great, for greatness comes from what you do with what you're good at.

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #157 on: May 17, 2011, 05:36:08 PM »
ang rockstar pose?

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #158 on: May 17, 2011, 05:38:15 PM »
Yung haba ng long hair.

:lol: pati how low you set your strap :lol: :lol:

Seriously though - a good guitar player is a good guitar player is a good guitar player.

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #159 on: May 18, 2011, 09:53:36 AM »
kelangan ba lage nakasapatos??
Nothing is impossible with GOD!

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #160 on: May 18, 2011, 10:02:20 AM »
kapag walang maling wrong move na nagawa

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« Reply #161 on: May 18, 2011, 10:42:03 AM »
wala. we're all good in our own way.

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« Reply #162 on: May 18, 2011, 10:53:13 AM »
wala. we're all good in our own way.

+100
Eto.  8-)

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #163 on: May 18, 2011, 12:14:59 PM »
TS gumamit ka ng geiger counter yung gamit ng mga saiyan sa dragon ball

« Last Edit: May 18, 2011, 12:16:43 PM by zeph »

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #164 on: May 18, 2011, 12:20:43 PM »

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« Reply #165 on: May 18, 2011, 12:54:59 PM »
be good in your own terms. you don't need other people's approval.

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« Reply #166 on: May 19, 2011, 12:57:41 AM »
humility and his ability to deliver  :-)
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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #167 on: May 19, 2011, 03:18:03 AM »
yung kayang gumawa ng magandang solo hehhehe

halimbawa isang kanta pinalitan nya yung solo in short magaling mag improvise hehe

tapos hindi mahangin o pasikat..hehe

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #168 on: May 19, 2011, 02:31:24 PM »
kapag natugtog yun colorado bulldog ng two fingers lang gamit

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« Reply #169 on: May 19, 2011, 03:32:40 PM »
What are the features of a great guitar player?

There’s no "one size fits all" answer here, but a great guitar player must excel at least on one of the following characteristics (in that order of importance):

* Style
* Soul
* Musicianship
* Innovation
* Technique
* Presence

Some might seem similar, but they are not. As you keep reading, you’ll see why they’re different.

Style

Music styles (and art in general) are a recollection of whatever is out there and gets blended in a new, original way. Jazz needed the Blues, Blues needed African chants, Classic needed Baroque, etc. The same way music styles are born, great guitar players assimilate the work of other musicians and come up with their own voice.

No great guitar player has reached recognition for sounding like a clone of someone else. Just go to Las Vegas and think if those amazing singers deserve any recognition for dressing, dancing and singing like Elvis. Not much merit in doing that, is there?

Now think B.B. King, who took T-Bone Walker’s and Elmore James’ style. He didn’t invent tasteful electric blues, but he made it sound like no one else. To this day, it just takes just few notes to recognize B.B. King’s Lucille.

Or take John Scofield, who took elements from traditional jazz and mixed them with a more modern sound, therefore being one of the pioneers of fusion jazz. As with many great guitar players, it only takes few notes to recognize John Scofield’s unique sound.

All great guitar players have a unique style that makes them stand out from the rest.

Soul

“If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music." ~Gustav Mahler

What is left in music if there’s no soul? Great guitar players understand music first and foremost as a way to express something. Those who only use it as a way to display their technical skills are closer to being athletes or mathematicians than good artists.

Soul could be expressed by playing fast or slow. It’s more linked to what the musician has to say rather than the speed of the execution. Take the example of Stevie Ray Vaughan, a great guitar player with one of the most expressive styles. He was able to play some really aggressive blues phrases, but they all came from deep inside. Or take the great Albert King, whose slow blues licks and “less is more" approach has some unmatched musical expression.

Musicianship

After all, guitar is above all things a musical instrument. It is meant to produce a musical sound. Musicianship is the guitar player’s ability to choose the right balance of elements. Musicianship is what we know as “good taste". A great musician knows when to play fast or slow, loud or quiet, sweet or harsh. Knows when to select the right guitar effect and the right accent. Knows when to let silence do its job, and when to break it.

So when it comes to guitar players, those with great musicianship stand out in a unique way and find themselves on great guitar players territory.

Innovation

Though linked to having a unique style, innovation goes a little beyond that. Style is about finding an own voice. Innovation is about breaking the rules.

Take the example of Buddy Guy, a great blues guitar player who started his career with Muddy Waters. Few years later, he decided to break the rules and experiment with loud amp settings and stage theatrics no one had seen or heard before. His record label, Chess, pushed back and forced him to play more standard styles. He didn’t know it then, but by breaking the rules Buddy Guy invented the psychedelic blues used by Jimi Hendrix later on.

Take the example of Eddie Van Halen, the inventor of the tapping technique. No one thought you could use your right hand to tap the fret board while doing legato. All of sudden, guitar players could sound twice as fast with this simple technique and could play phrases deemed impossible otherwise. The result, a whole new addition to rock guitar sound.

To be clear, not just any innovation would do the trick. It has to be something that adds value to the world of music. Having the courage to revolutionize and shake up things is a feature few guitar players have. Those who have that talent become great guitar players.

Technique

For a great guitar player, the instrument is a vehicle for expression. Rather than being an obstacle, the instrument is an extension of the guitar player’s body. Mastering the instrument through technique is the only way of getting to that level.

But let’s be careful, having technique doesn’t mean to play fast! Take a guitarist like Adrian Legg, who’s done anything imaginable to the instrument but doesn’t exploit speed. Or Derek Trucks, someone who masters the slide guitar technique like few, but doesn’t exploit speed either. On the other hand, you can also think about Yngwie Malmsteen, a guitar shredder by all standards, whose speed is a tough ticket to try.

Technique means having the ability to make the instrument sound exactly the way you want it to. It means reaching a music target by having absolute control over the instrument, not the other way around.

Presence

Finally, presence. I think this is an optional feature for a great guitar player, but in some cases it makes a big difference. There are examples of guitarists who keep a low profile on the stage, such as Eric Clapton, but who are by no means questioned as great guitar players. There are other great guitar players who had an incredible presence, such as Jimi Hendrix and they managed to have an impact on many generations.

Presence alone cannot make a great guitar player. If someone only has that, he/she might as well be an air guitar champion! When thinking about what makes a great guitar player, it all comes down to the features that make that person a great musician first.

To summarize, I think only few great guitar players have it all. Some have more technique than soul, or more style than technique, or more innovation than presence, etc. What I think, is that no great guitar player can be considered as such unless he/she excels in at least one of the above categories.

ang alam ko meron na dating ganitong thread, nakalimutan ko kung sino nagpost nito.

This one is a great read for me. :-D

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #170 on: May 19, 2011, 04:01:05 PM »
^great read, a bit in accurate with Van Halen inventing tapping but nonetheless points you in the right direction to greatness.

kasi kung "magaling tayo in our own ways" dapat wag na magpractice......

the line that caught me most

"Technique means having the ability to make the instrument sound exactly the way you want it to. It means reaching a music target by having absolute control over the instrument, not the other way around."

To excel in the other characteristics, one needs the amount of mastery of techniques required.  For style, I don't think one can develop his own style without first learning the styles of others, meaning the techniques used in whatever style one chooses. I don't think soul can come out if the technical skills one possesses is lesser than what one wants to achieve. Innovation requires a great deal of technical skill and knowledge, or else one would just be discovering something someone else invented earlier. Learn to walk before you run ika nga. As for presence, good technique is presence in itself... how many times have you been awed simply by watching some one play a good sounding riff. Take for example, Eric Johnson, very minimal showmanship but somehow the music grabs hold of the crowd.

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« Reply #171 on: May 19, 2011, 05:07:03 PM »

Siguro kung kaya mo yan or kahit equivalent nyan na papasa kahit hindi sa standards ng Berklee kahit 75% passing mark. e magaling ka na. Ganun din para sa jazz guitar o....


Lesson 1: Major Modes & Chord Scales and Harmonic Minor Review
Major Modes and Learning the Fretboard
Fifth Mode of Harmonic Minor [7(b9b13)]
Dom7(b9 13)
Introduction to Transcription
Great Performances: "All the Things You Are" by Grant Green
Great Performances: Sonny Rollins Solo on "All the Things You Are"
Great Performances: John Scofield Solo on "All the Things You Are"

Lesson 2: Modes of the Melodic Minor Scale
Modes of the Melodic Minor Scale
Time Feel, Swing Feel, and Subdivision
Melodic Minor (1st mode), Melodic Minor Scale Rhythmic Subdivision
Lydian b7 Scale
The Locrian n2 Scale
The Altered Scale
Great Performances: Charlie Parker's "Moose the Mooch"

Lesson 3: Continuity: Across the Bar Line Phrasing
Creating Continuity via Scales, Intervals and Arpeggios across the Bar Line
Major Modes across the Bar Line
Harmonic Minor Mode 5 (Mixolydian b9b13) across the Bar Line
Melodic Minor across the Bar Line
Great Performances: Peter Bernstein Solo On "Eronel"

Lesson 4: Blues in Jazz Continued
Review Charlie Parker Blues Form
Bebop Scale Review
Harmonic Anticipation and the Bebop Scale
Adding Tension to Basic 12-Bar Blues with the Altered Scale and Harmonic Minor
Coltrane Blues Variations
Great Performances: John Coltrane's "Take The Coltrane"
Great Performances: Charlie Parker "Visa"
Great Performances: Wes Montgomery's "No Blues"

Lesson 5: Rhythm Changes
Rhythm Changes: A Short History
Basic Rhythm Changes
Tonic/Approach, Continuity, Harmonic Minor, Harmonic Anticipation
The Complete A Section
Adding the Secondary Dominant
The Bridge—Lydian b7
Great Performances: Sonny Rollins, Sonny Stitt, Dizzy Gillespie's "Eternal Triangle," John Scofield's "Wee"
Great Performances: Miles Davis and John Coltrane's "Oleo"

Lesson 6: Pentatonic Scales
Pentatonic Scales in Jazz
Review of Minor 7 Pentatonic and Its Uses
The Dominant 7 Pentatonic Scale
The Major (b6) Pentatonic Scale
Mixed Pentatonics on Major and Minor Blues Progressions
Great Performances: Joe Henderson's "Recorda Me"

Lesson 7: The Diminished Scale
The Whole-Half and Half-Whole Diminished Scales
The Half-Whole Diminished Scale and Its Relationship to the 7(b9) Chord
Secondary Dominant Exercises
Diminished Scale Patterns
Triads and Diminished Chords and Scales
Great Performances: Peter Bernstein Solo on "It Happens"

Lesson 8: Phrasing, Dynamics, and Rhythm & Jazz Guitar Comping
Using Space
"Play/Rest" Exercises
Rhythmic Groupings
Dynamics
Comping Rhythms
Great Performances: Jim Hall's "John S."
Great Performances: Kurt Rosenwinkel's "Pannonica"

Lesson 9: John Coltrane's "Moment's Notice"
The First Eight Measures
Across the Bar Line on the First Eight Measures
Easy Chord Voicings for "Moment's Notice"
John Coltrane's Solo on "Moment's Notice"
Great Performances: Mark Turner's "Moment's Notice"
Great Performances: Mike Stern's "Moment's Notice"

Lesson 10: John Coltrane—The Coltrane Matrix ("Giant Steps" )
"Giant Steps" Matrix
Arpeggios, Approach Notes, and Four-Note Motives—Analyzing Coltrane's solo
Using the Whole-Tone Scale on the Matrix
Applying Coltrane Changes to Other Songs
Great Performances: John Coltrane's "But Not For Me"
Great Performances: Jochen Ruckert's "Satellite"
Great Performances: Wolfgang Muthspiel's "Giant Steps"

Lesson 11: Contemporary Jazz Guitarists (Jim Hall, John Scofield, Bill Frisell, Pat Metheny)
Harmonic and Melodic Characteristics of Each
The Importance of Sound and Time
Blending Jazz, Blues, Rock, and Funk Styles
Analysis of Selected Excerpts from Each Guitarist

Lesson 12: Nonfunctional Harmony, Contemporary Jazz Guitar, and Slash Chords
Nonfunctional Harmony Progressions
Slash Chords and the ECM Compositional Style
Modern Jazz Guitar
Modern Jazz Guitar Composition

Yan ang pinagisipan nilang sukatan para sa kanila ng isang magaling na gitarista. Good not great, for greatness comes from what you do with what you're good at.


the berklee curriculum is a fine example of mixing frightening with exciting  :-)
"The world needs more great guitarists, not more lumber critics."

Ron Kirn

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #172 on: May 20, 2011, 08:12:29 AM »
if the guitarist has his own sound and style

distinction!
Wazzap?

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Re: ANO ANG SUKATAN NG PAGIGING ISANG MAGALING NA GITARISTA?!
« Reply #173 on: May 20, 2011, 08:23:13 AM »
 :-D kapag may bangs at bigote ka :-D
ehem... excuse me po! its better to give than to manakawan... lm :D

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« Reply #174 on: May 20, 2011, 08:53:54 AM »
tumambay sa philmusic magpadami ng post hanggang maging ganap na addictus.(burado na ung F5 ng keyboard kaka refresh)