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Offline sonnyrayvaughn

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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2006, 06:11:23 AM »
nathan, pag ako sumikat ako gagawin kitang tech :) hehe.

well its true, sakit sa ulo  msgstring ng FR..but if you love the function and variety of sound you get from a FR equipped guitar, its worth the pain IMHO.

or you can buy a real Floyd Rose guitar or its speedloader system tremolos:

http://www.floydrose.com/bridges.html

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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2006, 06:52:13 AM »
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yung 2 guitars ko parehong naka floyd rose.  hassle sa floyd kapag gusto ko ibaba sa D or Eb ang tuning ko.  kaya ginawa ko pinablock ko na lang yung floyd nung isang guitar.


+1!!!

kaya ang solusyon, bumili pa ng isang naka floyd para may variety. :lol:
gusto ko ng naka-floyd w/ mahogany body!!! :D
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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2006, 07:45:56 AM »
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its a nescessary evil...unless someone comes up with a better design :D


+1
Hehe, Onga!  :D

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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2006, 07:47:47 AM »
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nathan, pag ako sumikat ako gagawin kitang tech :) hehe.

ayus! :biggrin: i'm getting tired of my day job. :lol:

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« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2006, 07:50:01 AM »
one thing i do hate about the old FR design is pag na wear out mo yung knife edge or lumuwag yung slot for the bridge posts. damn tough to keep it in tune when that happens.


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« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2006, 09:11:01 AM »
Akala ko title ng thread eh "Why I hate Fried Rice" tapos Floyd Rose pala...Hirap talaga pag pagod sa trabaho.

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« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2006, 10:03:40 AM »
dun naman sa kabila merong "Why I love my Floyd Rose"

ah basta aco love co yung Strat copy co! (and si polarized din, shempre) :P
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« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2006, 10:12:48 AM »
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malaking advantage ang Floyd Rose sa playing. if you can use it right, you can express your musicality in a lot more ways. minsan sa improv jamming namin, pag nauubusan na ko ng licks i repeat some licks but i accentuate the upbeat of every measure using whammy dips.. ibang-iba yung dating, tipid pa sa licks hehe! medyo hassle lang nga i-setup if you're just a new FR user, but that can be learned. sanayan lang pare ko :)


sir, nka wolfgang ka diba? di ba sagabal ung d-tuner pag ginamit mo na ung floyd? i believe di mo siya pwedeng hilahin? di ba nagagasgas ung gitara sa d-tuner area?


oyy.. di naman sagabal yung D-Tuna.. well, sa EXP na Wolfgang ko medyo di ganun kaganda yung quality ng D-Tuna kasi hindi fixed yung limits ng detuned/inserted positions nun, so either sumosobra sa E or D yung pitch pag hinila basta basta.. konting lambing lang hehe. yung sa MIA, perfect yung mechanical motion ng D-Tuna so no problem dun. di naman nagagasgas yung guitar kasi recessed-type Floyd Rose yung bridge ng Wolfgang. may clearance pa yung D-Tuna from the guitar body :)


ako din at first nahirapan sa D-tuna na EXP. pero sanayan lang. pag nakuha mo yung tamang technique sa adjustment, sisiw na ayusin.

pero i haven't tried the MIA version. hmmmm baka maingit lang ako hehehe. :lol:

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« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2006, 10:21:30 AM »
Hendrix in 1960's concert,, naka floyd rose ba sha? sobra pa sha floyd rose 2nog nya e... peace....


guys, tama tayo lahat, in my opinion, this is undebatable...pasanayan lang din tlaga yan... kung saan ka fit dun ka..... try nlang kaya natin, floyd rose ilagay natin sa yamaha classical nylon strings guitar.. :wink:

gudluck guyz....
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« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2006, 12:26:55 PM »
heto ang tip ko para mabilis ang stringing..
ilagay lahat ang string pero wag mo munang itono..yung magkabilang string ang ILAPIT sa tono..do low E then high E..wag low E then A.. kapag ganito tightening mo e mabubuwiset ka kaka habol sa tune ng strings..so kabilaan lang ang pag higpit. E to E..A to B and D to G. saka dapat nakalagay yung fine tuner sa middle para hindi bitin sa pagtaas o pagbaba ng tono.. so kapag malapit na tune e higpitan (higpitan ang  lock) mo na LAHAT ng strings at i FINE TUNE.. o sige subukan na niyo at sabihin dito kung ok nga... just my way of doing a stringing..
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kasi naman LAGI kayong magpalit ng strings para hindi kayo napapatidan ...  :lol:
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« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2006, 12:34:44 PM »
I agree with all the above sa bad trip ng floyd. But my main axe is still floyded and wouldn't replace it nor block it. Bad trip talaga sya, but to get its benefits, you have to live with its parameters. Pag nagpalit ka pa ng string gauge, say from .09 to .10, you have to adjust the spring tension pa. Bad trip talaga if you're not mechanically inclined !

Tapos talaga ang gabi mo kapag naputulan ka ng string. Thats why for gigs I always carry a backup guitar.

Nice thing about it though, is that if you engage the whammy (that's what it's for) your guitar doesnt go out of tune. Try a nosedive  on a Bigsby equipped guitar ! Ditto with whole note bends. Try doing that on a Les Paul. Broken in or not, your string will not return to its normal pitch after a whole note bend. And I've very rarely gotten a string break from a huge bend on a floyd. Yes, it's harder to hit your bend note, kasi bumibigay yung trem springs, but that aside. your guitar will generally stay in tune. Pag practice nga, my guitar goes directly from the case and into the jam. Kadalasan (not always) wala nang tono-tono !

It's really not for everyone :D .
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« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2006, 12:35:43 PM »
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Hendrix in 1960's concert,, naka floyd rose ba sha? sobra pa sha floyd rose 2nog nya e... peace....


guys, tama tayo lahat, in my opinion, this is undebatable...pasanayan lang din tlaga yan... kung saan ka fit dun ka..... try nlang kaya natin, floyd rose ilagay natin sa yamaha classical nylon strings guitar.. :wink:

gudluck guyz....


Satriani, Vai, Petrucci et al naka-Floyd sila :D . Peace din !
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« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2006, 03:04:53 PM »
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sanayan lang yan...

and if you know the proper way to MANTAIN it and USE it....then you'll like it....it would also help if you have the well built models.

+100000 ky phil :D
i've used floyed rose for 12yrs,i'm a working musician and it works for me.
plus...matipid sa strings. :D

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« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2006, 04:03:39 PM »
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Quote from: sweeplikevai
Hendrix in 1960's concert,, naka floyd rose ba sha? sobra pa sha floyd rose 2nog nya e... peace....


guys, tama tayo lahat, in my opinion, this is undebatable...pasanayan lang din tlaga yan... kung saan ka fit dun ka..... try nlang kaya natin, floyd rose ilagay natin sa yamaha classical nylon strings guitar.. :wink:

gudluck guyz....


Satriani, Vai, Petrucci et al naka-Floyd sila :D . Peace din !


oh yeah hendrix..and once he divebombs, he is out of tune the rest of the set! :lol:

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« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2006, 07:24:57 PM »
the thing is, no matter how much of an expert you are in re-stringing a floyd, fixed bridges are still easier to restring, and no danger whatsoever of getting the whole guitar out of tune if you break one string.

some people don't want to put up with that. some will.

as for me, i only use my RG if i need to use my whammy bar. otherwise, les pauls with TOM bridges rule.
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« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2006, 07:55:58 PM »
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oh yeah hendrix..and once he divebombs, he is out of tune the rest of the set! :lol:

Ayos!!! :)

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« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2006, 09:47:33 AM »
i have a guitar with a floyd rose and one with a kahler flyer, sanayan lang yan bro, mas ok sa kin yung kahler nga lang hehehe.

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« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2006, 11:05:11 AM »
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i have a guitar with a floyd rose and one with a kahler flyer, sanayan lang yan bro, mas ok sa kin yung kahler nga lang hehehe.


perhaps the best thing about kahler trems is that you don't have to take so huge a chunk of wood in your guitar to install it and you get almost the same range with the OFR and perhaps stays in tune better with the roller saddles.
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