reviving my old drum kit

[kokok]

Hi guys,

im new here.   my passion for drumming has been revived because of the Rock Band Heroes game in PS3... hehehehe.

i have an old Yamaha DP series with a Sabian B8 cymbal set. it goes waaaay back late 90's. the heads are kinda worn out already. i was wondering if you guys could give me pieces of advise as to what replacement heads i should get. prices and shops to get them would be highly appreciated too. im in the south area (las pinas).

paadvise nadin please prices and where to get mga hardwares like drumrack, boom stands, throne, bass drum pedal...etc. i think i want to do a setup na may rack. any advise on price and places to get a gibraltar rack system?

also, i was wondering if mabebenta pa kaya ito. magkano kaya going price? im thinking of getting a pearl forum or vision series if budget would allow. hehe.  

or perhaps a tama kit?? a superstar efx or ung efx hyperdrive...what do you think guys?

sorry for the many questions but i've been out of the drumming world for quite long, 7 years na ata... hehe.

Thanks in advance.  

[Riff_6603]

hi bro, riff here.. change your heads lang man ok na yun! if it's for home use ok na yun.. pero if you're more after sound, go for the pearl vision kesa pearl forum.. remo heads is most accessible kung south area maraming JB Music sa Southmall/ATC, pati kay vincher sa paranaque meron sa drum shop manila.. pearl/gibraltar accessories and zildjian cymbals are available din sa mga JB music stores as well.. as for drum racks.. meron gibraltar rack sa JB Music around 20K+ ata.. meron din perfect pitch sa southmall - sabian cymbals and yamaha hardware meron sila..

as for TAMA drums, meron audiophile sa festi, pati paiste cymbals and TAMA / Premier accessories.. better go for EFX Hyperdrive kasi 6PC na tska maganda finish niya though medyo may kamahalan compared to the usual wrapped sets.. for other accessories, merong stagg cymbals and mapex equipment sa hi-fi lounge (4th floor near gameworx)

dami accessible sa south bro, marami din kami taga dyan na drummers.. if ever PM mo lang kami samahan ka namin mag-GAS attack! hehe.. cheers!

[kokok]

hi bro, riff here.. change your heads lang man ok na yun! if it's for home use ok na yun.. pero if you're more after sound, go for the pearl vision kesa pearl forum.. remo heads is most accessible kung south area maraming JB Music sa Southmall/ATC, pati kay vincher sa paranaque meron sa drum shop manila.. pearl/gibraltar accessories and zildjian cymbals are available din sa mga JB music stores as well.. as for drum racks.. meron gibraltar rack sa JB Music around 20K+ ata.. meron din perfect pitch sa southmall - sabian cymbals and yamaha hardware meron sila..

as for TAMA drums, meron audiophile sa festi, pati paiste cymbals and TAMA / Premier accessories.. better go for EFX Hyperdrive kasi 6PC na tska maganda finish niya though medyo may kamahalan compared to the usual wrapped sets.. for other accessories, merong stagg cymbals and mapex equipment sa hi-fi lounge (4th floor near gameworx)

dami accessible sa south bro, marami din kami taga dyan na drummers.. if ever PM mo lang kami samahan ka namin mag-GAS attack! hehe.. cheers!

Hi sir Riff,

Thanks for the response. 

im planning sana for a better kit than what i have... tipong 4 toms, 3 floor toms, 6pc cymbals na kit. hehehehehe. i want to expand my equipment. but if thats too pricey, then upgrade ko nalang ung trusty yamaha ko. by the way, may alam kayo where nakakabili ng mga additional tom toms and floor toms?

would you know sir how much ung Tama EFX Hyperdrive?

ung remo heads, remo is the brand sir right? any particular remo head you can recommend? also, mga magkano kaya sir? hehehehe... mejo i need a major update on parts brands and names... hehehehehe.

what about ung head for the snare and bass drum sir?

Again, thank you very much sir. highly appreciated po. 

[omnicloud7]

kung Remo po ang bibilhin. Coated Ambassador po para sa snare, then Pinstripes for the toms. yun po yung ok para sa akin.
meron din Evans sa Audiophile Festival Mall sir pero yung dun mabibili mo pack na, so I think okay rin, maganda tunog nun.

for cymbals, baka po kaya pagtiyagaan sa ngayon yung B8 niyo sir. baka linis linis lang ang kailangan (don't use metal polisher! ) if ever bibili na po, mag-invest po talaga tayo sa mga binibili nating cymbals. mas ok na bumili ng 2nd-hand na high-end, kesa sa bnew na low-end.

think of it this way, bili tayo ng bili ng mura kasi mabilis masira at medyo pangit yung tunog, or gastos tayo ng mahal para sa magandang tunog na maglalast ng sooooooobrang tagal.  i'd go for the latter. 

[Riff_6603]

Hi sir Riff,

Thanks for the response. 

im planning sana for a better kit than what i have... tipong 4 toms, 3 floor toms, 6pc cymbals na kit. hehehehehe. i want to expand my equipment. but if thats too pricey, then upgrade ko nalang ung trusty yamaha ko. by the way, may alam kayo where nakakabili ng mga additional tom toms and floor toms?

would you know sir how much ung Tama EFX Hyperdrive?

ung remo heads, remo is the brand sir right? any particular remo head you can recommend? also, mga magkano kaya sir? hehehehe... mejo i need a major update on parts brands and names... hehehehehe.

what about ung head for the snare and bass drum sir?

Again, thank you very much sir. highly appreciated po. 

as for the setup you're looking at doing.. monster set ata bubuohin mo.. hehe.. marami naman music stores na mag-cater sa additional parts and accessories na hanap mo though IT IS PRICEY TALAGA... take for example yung Tama EFX Hyperdrive, superstars come in 6 pc setups max (ung kay wireme 7 piece pero diyos kasi yun haha!) anyways, you can have special orders naman done for addtl toms para mabuo ung ideal setup mo.. it would depend din on the size configurations na hanap mo at kung ano meron sa particular brand na kukuhanan mo.. for the price it's better to ask sir barabbas regarding that kasi last time i've inquired regarding the price less than 70K for the 6PC set ang quote niya..

regarding the skins.. REMO in particular, yup yun ung brand niya.. maganda yung pinstripes gaya nga ng sabi ni omnicloud or depende din talaga sa sound na hanap mo..i myself prefer clear emperors over my toms for example.. sa bass drum, i prefer PS3 (powerstroke 3) tapos sa snare varied eh.. i have remo Emperor-X heads on my metal snares, fiberskyn3 on my other wood snares and the ever trusted coated ambassador for my usual "go to" gig snare..

tambay ka lang palagi sa philmusic, watch youtube, ask around fellow musicians and just enjoy learning and playing music.. eventually you'll get the beat your looking for so to speak.. cheers!

[kokok]

hi omnicloud and riff,

thanks for the valuable inputs you all have given me. very much appreciated indeed. its kinda hard regaining footing after several years of absence. with philmusic and guys like you, i thinks its gonna be easier. 

hooomayyygaaddd!!! i was looking for a price range of 30-50k lang.... 70k pala ung 6pc tama hyperdrive kit?! erase erase... hehehehe.

upgrade nalang gamit muna... hehehe. heads muna siguro. and probably a cymbal here or two. i'll stick muna with the b8 or b8 pro series siguro since home use lang naman. hehehehe  saka na ung mga AAX... hehehe

by the way, nakakabili ba sir ng mga separate rack and floor toms? if so, what brand can you recommend and magkakano po? hehe. dagdag nalang ako toms kahit not necessarily yamaha din ang brand basta nice and affordable. hehe. 

thanks po mga sir. 

[pauldavid_7]

wag mo na revive... HAHAAH

buy ka na lang second hand pearl dito sa PM
then ung 30k?

Bili ka na lang ng cymbals..
I Prefer Zildjian/Paiste/Sabian add ko na rin cymbals ko Istanbul Mehmet
pero maganda tlga paiste signature... pati paiste 2002

so pag ako sayo... invest sa second hand na drum set
palitan mo ng head prefer ko ung Aquarian
then ur ready to go

[kokok]

by the way, mga magkano ung remo heads? separate po ba when you buy the batter head or meron may kasama na both batter and resonant?

thanks. 

[Riff_6603]

hi omnicloud and riff,

thanks for the valuable inputs you all have given me. very much appreciated indeed. its kinda hard regaining footing after several years of absence. with philmusic and guys like you, i thinks its gonna be easier. 

hooomayyygaaddd!!! i was looking for a price range of 30-50k lang.... 70k pala ung 6pc tama hyperdrive kit?! erase erase... hehehehe.

upgrade nalang gamit muna... hehehe. heads muna siguro. and probably a cymbal here or two. i'll stick muna with the b8 or b8 pro series siguro since home use lang naman. hehehehe  saka na ung mga AAX... hehehe

by the way, nakakabili ba sir ng mga separate rack and floor toms? if so, what brand can you recommend and magkakano po? hehe. dagdag nalang ako toms kahit not necessarily yamaha din ang brand basta nice and affordable. hehe. 

thanks po mga sir. 

by the way, mga magkano ung remo heads? separate po ba when you buy the batter head or meron may kasama na both batter and resonant?

thanks.  

separate ang batter and reso heads kapag binili.. if ever gusto mo mag-upgrade, nandyan ang lazer or JB music if need mo toms or drum rack kahit diff brand sa set mo.. as for cymbals.. ok na din ung B8 set! if your really keen and matiyaga at the same time, tambay ka lang sa classifieds for sure sobra pa ung 50K mo para makabuo ng monster set.. monster set ko nabuo ko kakatambay sa classifieds less than a year kalahati na halos buo ko.. cheers!

[paeng16]

SKINS..
TOMS = Use Remo Encore and Lazer cheap-o head for the reso side.
Snare = Use evans or Remo Ambassador and Lazer Cheap-O head for the reso side. (If you want a cracking sound, use a Remo for the reso side)
Kick = Use Remo PowerStroke 3 and Lazer Cheap-o head for the reso (then get a CD and cut a hole on the reso).

Hardware = Go Gibraltar brands for the stands, throne, lugs, etc.

buy WD-40 to give your kit a shinny wipe! 

Sticks=buy the 6 pairs of Zildjian Sticks with a Free 10" ZHT Zildjian Splash. (While supply last ito dude..)

Lastly, ENJOY!!!

[wilpredo]

by the way, mga magkano ung remo heads? separate po ba when you buy the batter head or meron may kasama na both batter and resonant?

thanks. 

bro, ang saya nyang gagawin mo hehe GAS attack yan. gusto mo samahan pa kita bumili, maghanap at mag set-up ng gamit mo, syempre papalo na din haha  cheesy las pinas din ako bro. ang daming shops na mabibilhan dito satin. JB and Perfect pitch SM Southmall, JB /  Lyric / Sound Essentials ATC, Hi-Fi Lounge / Audiophile / Lazer / Lyric sa Festival mall, drumshop ni sir vinchi sa paranaque 

last time i checked, remo pinstripe batter head for 22" kick is P1,600, 12" remo pinstripe is P600+, remo powerstroke 3 for 14" snare is P800 (sale parin sila hanggang ngayon hehe) agree ako kay sir paeng, yung Lazer head for reso side kasi P160 lang ata, tapos Gibraltar Hardwares, it never fails haha 

[kokok]

hi guys,

thank you for all the responses. helpful talaga sobra. 

right now sir im still just browsing around. sa next week na ang GAS attack!! hehehehehe. 

just a couple of questions lang po...

would it make a difference kung the batter is remo tapos lazer ung reso vs. kung remo both heads? if the difference is negligible, then ok ung remo sa batter then lazer on the reso... laking tipid nga naman. hehe

also, is there a head for the bass drum which would allow me not to use internal muffling anymore?

also, meron ba mga cheap but good na drum rack? im trying to find a good alternative for the gibraltar rack which costs 20k... hehehe. 

again, thanks guys! 

[Riff_6603]

hi guys,

thank you for all the responses. helpful talaga sobra. 

right now sir im still just browsing around. sa next week na ang GAS attack!! hehehehehe. 

just a couple of questions lang po...

would it make a difference kung the batter is remo tapos lazer ung reso vs. kung remo both heads? if the difference is negligible, then ok ung remo sa batter then lazer on the reso... laking tipid nga naman. hehe

also, is there a head for the bass drum which would allow me not to use internal muffling anymore?

also, meron ba mga cheap but good na drum rack? im trying to find a good alternative for the gibraltar rack which costs 20k... hehehe. 

again, thanks guys! 

it makes a huge difference in sound comparing lazer to remo resonants.. sabi nga ni paeng, if you want it crisp and tight, go for remo on both ends!

as for the bass drum head, powerstroke 3 heads have an internal ring already para di na masyado kailangan mag-kabit ng pang-muffle.. boomy pa ang sound!

as for drum racks, meron sa classifieds ngayon going for 8.5K neg.. meron din si homer aka dreamtheaterfan66f na Gibraltar rack with side bars and clamps packaged at 19K! (sulit!)  tambay ka lang philmusic.. naka-score ako ng Gibraltar rack, a month after nakakuha ako ng Pearl ICON rack sa classifieds!

hope we've helped you out! cheers!

[kokok]

Hi sir Riff,

yes, i saw ung Pearl ICON rack nyo sa pictures... grabe! ganda sir! kung sakali gusto nyo ibenta ulit nandito lang ako sir.... ahehehehehehehe. 

yes sir, you all have been a great help to me. this weekend siguro i'll get a few stuff. unahin ko muna mga heads then add nalang ako paunti unti...

in the meantime... practice practice muna... matigas na mga kamay ko. hehehe.  its like, i know how to do certain things in my head, but when i play na, parang nadadapa mga kamay ko... hehehhehe. 

thanks a million. 

[kokok]

By the way,

how much kaya and where can i get a drum dial? hehe. mukang pati drum tuning nalimutan ko na. 

Thanks. 

[Riff_6603]

By the way,

how much kaya and where can i get a drum dial? hehe. mukang pati drum tuning nalimutan ko na. 

Thanks. 

si vincher meron,,, taga paranaque lang siya (www.thedrumshopmanila.com) cheers!

[mondi99060451]

change the heads then invest on hi-end cymbals and snare... pati pala pedal. =) welcome back to drumming.  Ako rin 4 months natigil at lately lang bumalik sa pag pagpalo.  Ang sarap ng feeling pag nanunumbalik sa ating passion.

[kokok]

Hi guys,

oo nga sir mondi, sarap tumugtog ulit. eto talaga first passion ko... hehehehe. 

a little update lang... retuned my drums after countless hours of studying via online materials. last na natono to was years back. back then, limited palang resources... konting turo ng mga friends and hinge hinge ng advice sa mga instructors sa yamaha.

started with the snare... used the old heads muna. WOW!! what a difference. the sound now is very clean. just the way i wanted it... it used to sound "trashy". ngayon ang linis. hehehe. 

im off to JB to grab me some new heads. 

thanks for all the help guys. 

[breech41]

Sir Riff the Drum Doctor!!

[Riff_6603]

Sir Riff the Drum Doctor!!

naku.. si peeves ang dapat magdala ng honor niyan!

[kokok]

Hi guys,

i've asked sa jb if they sell ung mga generic toms, they dont daw and they cant order. ung mga drums daw nila in kit/set form daw talaga.

ung mga toms na nandun e ung pang marching band.

any suggestions as to where i can buy generic toms? im looking for an 8" and 10".

thanks guys. 

[Riff_6603]

Hi guys,

i've asked sa jb if they sell ung mga generic toms, they dont daw and they cant order. ung mga drums daw nila in kit/set form daw talaga.

ung mga toms na nandun e ung pang marching band.

any suggestions as to where i can buy generic toms? im looking for an 8" and 10".

thanks guys. 

punta ka sa lazer (3rd flr - near elevator & audiophile) sa festival mall, hanapin mo si jepoy.. siya kasi ung contact ko dun.. sabihin mo ako nag-reto xio; ung recently bumili ng rhythm tech moon block/gears kamo.. hehe.. tapos ask ka ng power toms or add on toms.. cheers!

[kokok]

Nice! 

thanks sir for the hook up. 

last question... hehe... ano po maganda reso head for the bass drum? ung sakin kase now parang masyadong malaki ung hole at the center (way bigger than your usual platito).

Again, thank you sir. highly appreciated po talaga. 

[Riff_6603]

Nice! 

thanks sir for the hook up. 

last question... hehe... ano po maganda reso head for the bass drum? ung sakin kase now parang masyadong malaki ung hole at the center (way bigger than your usual platito).

Again, thank you sir. highly appreciated po talaga. 

maganda kung same brand ng drumset mo mismo.. pero if ever, remo powerstroke 3 maganda as batter.. as for reso di ko pa na-try.. wait natin response ng other forumers..

[breech41]

NURSE lang pla si sir rif.. si sir wax anong tag maganda sa kanya for his amazing invention? peace sir wax!! idol ko talaga ung mga acrylics mo!!