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« on: May 30, 2006, 03:04:26 AM »
Mga sir, I need your comments on fernando drum set. Plano ko kasi bumili nyan... Maple daw yung wood nya pinakita sakin... Kaso ang pangit ng hi-hat pati crash!!! Gusto ko lang malaman kung ok na ba yung kahoy nya? Matibay na ba yun? Tnx


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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2006, 08:07:50 AM »
really decent, yes matibay din. just dont expect the wood quality to be equal to those used on high end drums. asian maple sya and not the north american hard rock maple.

natural na pangit yung cymbals na kasama sa kit. bili ka na lang ng high end zildjians or sabians later.

if my only choices are: sonor 3001, gretsch catalina maple and the fernando kit. id take the fernando. looking closely at the shell construction, it seems to me that they come from the same factory so you might as well be paying for the same quality at lesser cost. im just speculating here hehehe

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2006, 09:58:25 AM »
If the price is real low compared to the Gretsches, I'd go with the Fernando.  Kahit yung non-maple set nila matino eh.  Just take care of the hardware, because they might be a bit low-end.  Pero punas every week, and it'll last a while.

Cymbals... I don't think you should think about the cymbals when you buy a set.  Tama si peeves, pangit lagi yan by default, lalo na dito sa Pinas.  Buy the kit first, then plan your cymbals.  I'd suggest you buy a crash first and a ride next.  Then hats.  Then others (splash, china, bell, other crashes, another ride, etc.).  A lot of people here sa forum are selling their cymbals dirt cheap, so you might want to look around.  Buy Gep's 20" A Zildjian Med Ride, para mabili na niya 17" trash crash ko, hehehe.

Or buy my cymbals.  See my signature.  Hehehe. :D
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2006, 02:55:47 PM »
Maganda yung mga bagong labas ng Fernando ngayon, parang DW ang dating at mas mukhang durable compared sa mga kits nila before. Upgrade mo na lang cymbals. Check out sir Sunny's list of cymbals, mura.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2006, 03:30:16 PM »
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really decent, yes matibay din. just dont expect the wood quality to be equal to those used on high end drums. asian maple sya and not the north american hard rock maple.

natural na pangit yung cymbals na kasama sa kit. bili ka na lang ng high end zildjians or sabians later.

if my only choices are: sonor 3001, gretsch catalina maple and the fernando kit. id take the fernando. looking closely at the shell construction, it seems to me that they come from the same factory so you might as well be paying for the same quality at lesser cost. im just speculating here hehehe

Ah ok maganda rin pala ang fernando. Maraming salamat po sa infos. Plano ko kasi bumili sa thursday eh.

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If the price is real low compared to the Gretsches, I'd go with the Fernando. Kahit yung non-maple set nila matino eh. Just take care of the hardware, because they might be a bit low-end. Pero punas every week, and it'll last a while.

Cymbals... I don't think you should think about the cymbals when you buy a set. Tama si peeves, pangit lagi yan by default, lalo na dito sa Pinas. Buy the kit first, then plan your cymbals. I'd suggest you buy a crash first and a ride next. Then hats. Then others (splash, china, bell, other crashes, another ride, etc.). A lot of people here sa forum are selling their cymbals dirt cheap, so you might want to look around. Buy Gep's 20" A Zildjian Med Ride, para mabili na niya 17" trash crash ko, hehehe.

Or buy my cymbals. See my signature. Hehehe.

Thanks din po sa info. Sa tingin ko ang uunahin ko yung hi-hats then ride tapos crash.. Wala pa kasi kasamang ride yung set eh. Sige tignan ko po yung mga items nyo kaso wala pa ko pera kaya mag iipon muna ko. Thanks po ulit  :)

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Maganda yung mga bagong labas ng Fernando ngayon, parang DW ang dating at mas mukhang durable compared sa mga kits nila before.

San nyo po nakita yung bagong labas ng fernando? Thanks.  :)
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2006, 03:37:13 PM »
sa JB parksquare

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2006, 04:14:50 PM »
meron din sa JB Megamall

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2006, 04:58:21 PM »
Thanks po mga sir.  :D  Tanong ko na rin po kung ano po ba ang magandang muffler para sa bass drum at saan po ba makakabili. Thanks. :?:
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2006, 05:27:54 PM »
unan, foam, carpet, basahan, lumang drumhead na ginupit, duct tape, masking tape, double sided tape, mouse pad, tissue na nakatupi, paper na nakatupi, panyo, medyas, tshirt, brief, cotton balls, pati elmers glue na pinatuyo (not kidding, ginagamit yun sa speakers) at madami pang iba dyan pre. be resourceful na lang

or buy really really good heads (expensive) like evans emad para built in na ang muffling

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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2006, 06:29:31 PM »
^^ For the bass drum, I use Tatlong Pirasong Basahan(TM) for usual playing and Isang Makapal na Lumang Sweater(TM) if I'm practicing double bass.  Nakasandal lang sa beater head.  Finger-tight ang reso.

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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2006, 09:37:01 PM »
ayus naman yung fernando palit ka ng skin and cymbals ok nah yun hmmm pati pla yung pedal palitan mo crain pedal nun.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2006, 02:05:40 AM »
for Bass drum  i use EVANS EMAD, may kasama ng mufflers yun, medyo mahal nga lang. Check it out sa audiophile. Check this out.

http://www.music123.com/Evans-Adjustable-Damping-EMAD-Bass-Drum-Heads-i72711.music
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2006, 05:12:07 AM »
Wow dami palang pwedeng ilagay!!  :lol:
Basahan nalang muna siguro ilalagay ko nag iipon pa kasi ako para sa hi-hat  :)
Uhmm tanong ko rin po kung pano yung pagbili ng mga drum heads... Magkaiba pa po ba yung drum head ng hi and low toms? Pasensya na po wala ako halos alam sa parts ng drumset  :) . Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2006, 09:07:34 AM »
heads are a matter of personal preference and BUDGET. normally, you use the same type and model on all the toms. if you are a noob like what you say you are, better get familiar with the terms batter and resonant.

the heads you put on top of the drums are batter heads. the head at the bottom is your resonant.

its common to use the same batter on all the toms and use a different resonant.

if you want lively, jazzy toms use single ply heads on both batter and resonant sides. rock music usually calls for double ply batter for more controlled sound and more defined low end. you can use single ply on resonant.

then again there is an issue whether to use clear or coated heads but i leave it up to you to read the drum tuning bible http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/ . remo's website has a tutorial on choosing heads and also evans.

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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2006, 02:08:59 PM »
Thank you very much po sir peeves24.  :oops:
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2006, 05:41:52 PM »
peeves mukang paborito mo fernando ah :lol:

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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2006, 08:24:21 PM »
very welcome autoexec

ushuaia: di naman, pero sana mabasa ng mga taga jb at bigyan ako ng fernando dahil sa sales talk na ginagawa ko hehehe. wala na kasing ibang choice ngayon kundi fernando kung decent entry level ang usapan. i personally use an old maya (my first kit, i bought on my 18th bday from jb) and the mitello brand that rj used to sell are no longer sold here. the regal kits from lazer have inferior hardware so go fernando!

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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2006, 08:11:32 AM »
magkano ba yung Fernando kit na yan w/o the cymbals?

If it doesn't cost much (asa 16K?) baka iconsider ko sya.... kasi terrible yung gamit ko ngayon, L.A. Drums.  Gusto ko sana papalitan yung heads kaso nakakapanghinayang sa ngayon dahil di maganda ang shells nya.

San gawa ang snare nya?

Although gusto ko talaga pagipunan yung Sonor 3005 maple set... kaso grabe kamahal!

Take note na malamang hindi all maple malamang ang Fernando na yan.  Baka sa inner and outer wood ply lang maple pero ang loob nya glue at firewood.

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2006, 08:13:58 AM »
regarding sa cymbals... wag ka bibili ng mumurahin kasi itatapon m lang yun.  Invest sa pro line cymbals kahit na baguhan ka pa lang.  Abang abang ka na lang ng magagandang offers dito.... yung ilang Zildjian cymbals sa JB on sale at mura talaga ang price compared sa Paiste at Sabian dito.

Start ka siguro sa hi-hat and crash. last mo na ang ride.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2006, 09:15:38 AM »
my first drumkit was a fernando that i loved and cared for dearly.  todo linis and all.  i did a lot of damping here and there and it sounded quite decent.  then i started getting tired of the sound. i felt basically uninspired because of the hats.  one day, drummer extraordinaire Mar Dizon happened to be in the neighborhood. he worked that little fernando kit like there was no tomorrow! my old, uninspiring kit suddenly sounded like a TAMA!!!  dun ko narealize na malaking bagay ang technique and execution.  i then had a renewed interest and affection for that old kit. :)
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2006, 09:31:07 AM »
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magkano ba yung Fernando kit na yan w/o the cymbals?

If it doesn't cost much (asa 16K?) baka iconsider ko sya.... kasi terrible yung gamit ko ngayon, L.A. Drums.  Gusto ko sana papalitan yung heads kaso nakakapanghinayang sa ngayon dahil di maganda ang shells nya.

San gawa ang snare nya?

Although gusto ko talaga pagipunan yung Sonor 3005 maple set... kaso grabe kamahal!

Take note na malamang hindi all maple malamang ang Fernando na yan.  Baka sa inner and outer wood ply lang maple pero ang loob nya glue at firewood.


dood two things:

1. if you already have a cheap kit, dont replace it with another cheap kit. take your time mastering your craft on your existing gear and spend your money on taking lessons or buy upgrades like better pedals and new heads. save up your money for that sonor 3005.

2. dont let wood composition bother you, what sounds good sounds good even if its made of palo china. actually, do replace your heads and you might be surprised.

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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2006, 02:00:54 PM »
Thanks po sa lahat ng nag reply dito.. Nakabili na po ako nung June 1. Eto po yung pic:

18.9K talaga yung orig. price nyan pero may 20% less kaya 15,120 php na lang.  :D  Hehe
Plano ko bumili nung 4 set ng planet Z next week 7K lang kasi eh. Hehe

Tnx for the replies guys!! Specially kay sir peeves :wink:
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2006, 01:39:44 PM »
go with sonor 505,2005,3001,3003

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2006, 03:14:15 PM »
cool naman. sarap ng feeling ng new drums, you can really have fun with a kit. =) ganyan na ganyan din kit ko eh, color blue nga lang. =) have fun dood!

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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2006, 05:07:23 PM »
nice kit  :D

pero di pa tapos gastos mo hehehe

bibili ka pa cymbals
bibili ka pa isa pang stand para sa cymbal
papalitan mo yung bass pedal
mapapabili ka ng bagong snare dahil bitin yung tunog nung stock snare
bibili ka ng new drum heads
tapos mapapabili ka rin ng new hihat stand
optional sa iba, pero a must para sa kin ang pagbili ng drum throne


haaay hirap maging drummer, buti pa vocalist  :oops:



final piece of advice dood : DONT BUY PLANET Z.

you'll be better off with sabian b8.

better yet, save your money and buy one high end cymbal after another. WAG KA MAGTIPID SA CYMBALS. take your time when buying cymbals and really invest in the good ones. brand new or second hand doesnt matter as long as its in good condition and does not have cracks, keyholing and dents.

marami din nagpopost ng second hand cymbals dyan at reasonable prices.

took me 5 years to complete my first cymbal setup because i bought one cymbal as a birthday present from me to me. my first acquisition was a zildjian K ride, a sabian AAX crash, then sabian AAX fusion hats (from the 13th pay of my first job). finally, i bought a zildjian A Custom crash and an 8" K splash from the first salary of my second job.

i bought my cymbals in order of my needs. i didnt have a ride so that's what i got first. a year later, it was time to replace the stock cymbals that came, and logically, the crash was the first to be replaced because it was cheaper than the hats. yada yada yada

in closing, sana mainspire ka maghintay (no matter how long) at wag mo bilin mo yung planet z


peace out  :D