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Offline zisnarf_miranda

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« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2010, 09:00:24 AM »
wow! hope this one will help me and other daddies out there


@ nitro,jellogs and aurora

 :-D i like that idea of forming a band or EB for Fafas :-D  lalo ako nawata sa mga proposed names  :lol:


Maybe ill try to listen dun sa mga old favorites ko, yung mga nakainspire sa akin para tumugtog :-)

OT: speaking of keeping our guitar on shape, baka may spare parts kayo jan would you mind giving them for free hehehe (ie fret wires, old pots, pick up, etc) bubuhayain ko yung old guitar ko and ill promise no more GASing muna hehehe



pahingi rin pag meron freebies... hihihi :-D

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« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2010, 09:50:54 AM »
@rennaov
 you're right tsong, natumbok mo, hehehe, i remember Joe Satriani once said in an interview he love listening to music of Bjork and he's thinking how can he add guitar lines to it if he will be given a chance, galing! tama ka, siguro sapat na kapag ok na yung gitara focus on doing our own sound muna, btw anu pala meaning nung GAS? sure ako ung "G" is guitar hehehe  :-D
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« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2010, 04:52:17 PM »
Ang dami ko natutunan dito!salamt sau bro!kip it up lang,Passion lang talaga ang importante for us to create and explore music... :-)
« Last Edit: March 04, 2010, 04:55:15 PM by Julz07 »

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« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2010, 04:58:54 PM »
come what may! :-D

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« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2010, 06:12:03 PM »
@rennaov
 you're right tsong, natumbok mo, hehehe, i remember Joe Satriani once said in an interview he love listening to music of Bjork and he's thinking how can he add guitar lines to it if he will be given a chance, galing! tama ka, siguro sapat na kapag ok na yung gitara focus on doing our own sound muna, btw anu pala meaning nung GAS? sure ako ung "G" is guitar hehehe  :-D



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« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2010, 08:35:06 PM »
sana hindi mali tong thread ko about guitarist padin naman eh..



im 19 now last year of teens i start playing guitar and having my band since 3rd year high school
and im freshly graduate from two years course in computer.(nahinto ako 1 sem before mag college). so i almost 4 years in playing guitar.(3rd yr college ako if 4 yrs course kinuha ko).sana hnd magulo kwento ko hehe...
i have a band before but not exist anymore..
and i have a new band nakakatugtog naman maayos yung banda napagkakakitaan din minsan if my demand samen..
 
 
 but i think masyado na malaki yung panahon para sakin i have no achievement in playing guitar.. as a musician..
upgrade ako ng upgrade ng guitars, effets pero naisip ko para saan?wala naman din atang patutunguhan sayang pera lang at panahon!
(correct me sa lahat ng mali ah)


ahaha ang bitter ko

kayo dumating na ba kayo sa point na ito?
ako kaninang madaling araw lang b4 umidlip!




..if hindi pasok tong thread ill remove it thanks


this happens to anyone and everyone(the frustration)
don't be frustrated. ur very lucky u can acquire gear in some ways.
back in the mid 90s i know one very talented guitarist who doesn't have any gear,
he mostly practice with his cousin's borrowed acoustic.
to play an electric guitar he goes to his friends,
then trying out gears in Yamaha, RJ, and Perfect Picth music stores.
he does this just to keep practicing...because he doesn't have any gear yet.

he's one of the best and most versitile guitar players i know.

here's one important tip he told me.
he told me to go out and search for local guitar players who can play really good.
attend guitar clinics whenever there's one.
if you can afford then go overseas to see int'l guitar players. watch their live gigs.
and as others suggested hang out not only with good guitarist but with good musicians.
watch every move they do. how they deliver notes.
learn too appreciate good drummers,bass players,keyboardist,singers...all musicians.
approach them and make friends with them.
hear their stories on their way up to become a musician.
these people will guide you what you need to do.
just by watching a good musician closely no matter what instrument they use
can actually make you a better player in a very big way.

for me this is a very fulfilling and very inspirational experience.
it never lets me down.
whenever i see a good guitar player it pumps me up.
makes me wanna go home and turn on the metrinome at 200bpm.
try it  :-D


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« Reply #106 on: March 05, 2010, 09:02:28 AM »
Quote
this happens to anyone and everyone(the frustration)
don't be frustrated. ur very lucky u can acquire gear in some ways.
back in the mid 90s i know one very talented guitarist who doesn't have any gear,
he mostly practice with his cousin's borrowed acoustic.
to play an electric guitar he goes to his friends,
then trying out gears in Yamaha, RJ, and Perfect Picth music stores.
he does this just to keep practicing...because he doesn't have any gear yet.

he's one of the best and most versitile guitar players i know.

here's one important tip he told me.
he told me to go out and search for local guitar players who can play really good.
attend guitar clinics whenever there's one.
if you can afford then go overseas to see int'l guitar players. watch their live gigs.
and as others suggested hang out not only with good guitarist but with good musicians.
watch every move they do. how they deliver notes.
learn too appreciate good drummers,bass players,keyboardist,singers...all musicians.
approach them and make friends with them.
hear their stories on their way up to become a musician.
these people will guide you what you need to do.
just by watching a good musician closely no matter what instrument they use
can actually make you a better player in a very big way.

for me this is a very fulfilling and very inspirational experience.
it never lets me down.
whenever i see a good guitar player it pumps me up.
makes me wanna go home and turn on the metrinome at 200bpm.
try it  grin


+100 Very nice insights sir! thank you for sharing :-)  pwede po ba namin malaman kung sino yung guitarist sa story mo? im sure sikat na sikat na po sya ngayon :mrgreen:
references: Krunch, japaniman23, dannygatton, Obetski, guitarhero, obedron, bamborger, halloween,tukak, arvine,bembmd, jose roberto, puchazta_46, Bhaachico

FS: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,227269.0.html

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« Reply #107 on: March 05, 2010, 07:34:22 PM »




thanks for appreciating sir   :-)
but for the answer to ur question
i'll pm u ok ya   :-D
« Last Edit: March 05, 2010, 08:52:46 PM by firewaterjem »

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« Reply #108 on: March 05, 2010, 09:44:45 PM »
thanks for appreciating sir   :-)
but for the answer to ur question
i'll pm u ok ya   :-D
may ganung factor?hehe

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« Reply #109 on: March 06, 2010, 10:58:44 AM »
ah oki, that's what GAS is hehehe   :-D

@firewaterjem...
 ....man who's that guy? i think it's ok lang naman siguro kung makilala namin sya,
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« Reply #110 on: March 06, 2010, 11:50:20 AM »
ah oki, that's what GAS is hehehe   :-D

@firewaterjem...
 ....man who's that guy? i think it's ok lang naman siguro kung makilala namin sya,

hehehe baka sya yun? what do you think? :wink:

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« Reply #111 on: March 06, 2010, 12:40:46 PM »
yup, yun nga rin ang iniisip ko baka sya rin ung...  :roll:
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« Reply #112 on: March 06, 2010, 10:04:02 PM »
waaa....
hindi po ako un. i wish... hehehehehe
nkasama ko lng cya s isng grup back in the early 90s.
twin guitars kmi, un nmn ang uso nung time n un.
this guy is so good and so versatile.
i'll pm each of you who wants to know.
very sensitve and super down to earth tong taong ito.
bka mlaman nya e magalit skin to hehehehe

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« Reply #113 on: March 06, 2010, 11:03:26 PM »
Grabe naiiyak ako sa tuwa, kala ko nag-iisa lang ako. Actually maswerte pa ako sa iba. 15 years na ang nakalipas nung huli akong humawak ng guitar. at last august 2009 ay na-invite ako sa company namin na sumali sa isang banda, tuwa ako pero pressure rin kasi ang gagaling ng kabanda ko, pweding sabihin na ako ang nagpaparumi sa banda kapag praktis, minsan gusto ko nang umayaw kasi pakiramdam ko i am not doing any good in playing guitar, parang sayang ang bago kong biling electric at effects pero i must say na may pagbabago sa playing skills ko dahil sa kanila. Dahil sa post ng ibang taga-philmusic saying na their doing it for passion, parang nag-apoy uli ang hilig ko sa gitara. May dahilan ang diyos kung bakit ako muling ibinalik sa pag-gigitara kaya di ko sasayangin ito. Para sa iyo pre, bata ka pa at wag mong sayangin ang talent o skill na binigay sa iyo ng diyos. Ako plano ko na na kung di ako magtagumpay sa banda ko ngayon ay mag-apply ako sa church at dun ko subukang tumugtog. 
Katatapos lang ng Gig namin kanina, 2 shows at 4 repeated songs in every show. guess what, ang ginawa ko lang ay hagod sa strings at dasal na wag magkamali at ayun kahit di ganung kabigat yung part ko sa band sobrang tuwa ako nung makita ko yung bandmate ko na sobrang enjoy at saya sila at pakiramdam ko naman ay lalong lumalim friendship namin. Di man ako gumaling nang husto, i admit na na-develop ang skills ko at ang importante ay i win a friend like a brother. Siguro isa ito sa mga dapat nating tingnan bilang ganap at di ganap na gitarista o musikero, na di man tayo sumikat ay nagkaroon tayo ng kaibigan at naging bahagi tayo, sila ng kani-kaniyang buhay.

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« Reply #114 on: March 07, 2010, 01:01:51 AM »
Katatapos lang ng Gig namin kanina, 2 shows at 4 repeated songs in every show. guess what, ang ginawa ko lang ay hagod sa strings at dasal na wag magkamali at ayun kahit di ganung kabigat yung part ko sa band sobrang tuwa ako nung makita ko yung bandmate ko na sobrang enjoy at saya sila at pakiramdam ko naman ay lalong lumalim friendship namin. Di man ako gumaling nang husto, i admit na na-develop ang skills ko at ang importante ay i win a friend like a brother. Siguro isa ito sa mga dapat nating tingnan bilang ganap at di ganap na gitarista o musikero, na di man tayo sumikat ay nagkaroon tayo ng kaibigan at naging bahagi tayo, sila ng kani-kaniyang buhay.


hehehe reality :lol: enjoy lang be happy

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« Reply #115 on: March 08, 2010, 10:45:52 AM »
@firewaterjem

man thanks for sending the story, wow what a guy, he played with those big names in music and he never have his own guitar back then!? and he played different types of music!? that's really inspiring, lam nyu mga tsong dito ko lang nalaman sa philmusic na pwede pala mag-try ng mga guitars sa mga music stores kahit hindi bibili, and thanks for those stores for giving the guy (firewaterjem's guitarmate)  a freedom to use their guitars eventhough they know he's not going to buy it, sana mabasa ng mga music stores ito at ng mga aspiring musicians...
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« Reply #116 on: March 15, 2010, 06:41:37 PM »
sana hindi mali tong thread ko about guitarist padin naman eh..



im 19 now last year of teens i start playing guitar and having my band since 3rd year high school
and im freshly graduate from two years course in computer.(nahinto ako 1 sem before mag college). so i almost 4 years in playing guitar.(3rd yr college ako if 4 yrs course kinuha ko).sana hnd magulo kwento ko hehe...
i have a band before but not exist anymore..
and i have a new band nakakatugtog naman maayos yung banda napagkakakitaan din minsan if my demand samen..
 
 
 but i think masyado na malaki yung panahon para sakin i have no achievement in playing guitar.. as a musician..
upgrade ako ng upgrade ng guitars, effets pero naisip ko para saan?wala naman din atang patutunguhan sayang pera lang at panahon!
(correct me sa lahat ng mali ah)


ahaha ang bitter ko

kayo dumating na ba kayo sa point na ito?
ako kaninang madaling araw lang b4 umidlip!




..if hindi pasok tong thread ill remove it thanks

Baka kaya frustrated ka, masyadong mataas ang expectations mo. Maaaring subconsiously o consiously naghahangad ka na sumikat ka na agad as in gusto mong maging celebrity agad, tapos hindi naman nangyayari. Ang advise ko lang, babaan mo ang expectations mo at enjoy what you are doing. There is no point in doing something na you dont enjoy, pwera na lang sa mga bagay na wala tayong choice kundi gawin natin para mabuhay.
'one never fails until he quits trying'

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« Reply #117 on: March 15, 2010, 09:40:30 PM »
@firewaterjem

man thanks for sending the story, wow what a guy, he played with those big names in music and he never have his own guitar back then!? and he played different types of music!? that's really inspiring, lam nyu mga tsong dito ko lang nalaman sa philmusic na pwede pala mag-try ng mga guitars sa mga music stores kahit hindi bibili, and thanks for those stores for giving the guy (firewaterjem's guitarmate)  a freedom to use their guitars eventhough they know he's not going to buy it, sana mabasa ng mga music stores ito at ng mga aspiring musicians...

uy Fafi your welcome
and thank you diyan sa sinabi mo ha    :-D
just keep the fire burning    :evil:
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 08:02:17 AM by firewaterjem »

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« Reply #118 on: March 26, 2010, 08:09:20 PM »
 :cry: :cry: :cry:
im back on frustration

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« Reply #119 on: March 26, 2010, 09:00:56 PM »
:cry: :cry: :cry:
im back on frustration

bakit ka naffrustrate bro?  :?


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« Reply #120 on: April 01, 2010, 02:01:59 AM »
kadalasan nakakadagdag ng frustrations yung mga personal trials na dumarating sa buhay. marami yan. sa kaso ko ser, may instances na na-disband ang mga dati kong bands, at dumating sa point na tinatamad na akong magbanda at tumugtog, sabayan pa ng mga killer major subjects sa college na required ng at maximum 4 hours of sleep a day lang...

maganda rin na i-refresh nyo uli yung moment na first time mong magkagitara, flashback ka until the time na nag-eenjoy kana sa mga gigs mo noon. re-live the moments, ika nga.

try nyo rin maggitara leisurely habang nagrerelax, say in a windy summer afternoon, nakadungaw ka lang sa bintana, strum-strum lang, imbento ng riffs, at hayaan nyo lang mag-spark ang imagination nyo spontaneously. possible din na makagawa pa ng bagong compo.

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« Reply #121 on: April 04, 2010, 08:00:27 PM »
bakit ka naffrustrate bro?  :?

madalang na kasi ako makahawak ng guitara kakaadik sa philmusic haha pero hindi yun ang point..

di na kasi ulit kami tinawagan dun sa bar na tinutugtugan namen eh nalakihan siguro dun sa demand namen na budget pero standard naman yun eh 300 eh..

want kasi nila 200 eh hindi naman pwede yun.. ayun wala na parang tinamad nawalan ng gana..di na nagsisipra di nageensayo..

panay gas lang inaatupag ko now.. pero baka sa april 10 may tugtug kami new bar yun bubuksan palang hehe :wink:

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« Reply #122 on: April 04, 2010, 08:23:36 PM »
madalang na kasi ako makahawak ng guitara kakaadik sa philmusic haha pero hindi yun ang point..

di na kasi ulit kami tinawagan dun sa bar na tinutugtugan namen eh nalakihan siguro dun sa demand namen na budget pero standard naman yun eh 300 eh..

want kasi nila 200 eh hindi naman pwede yun.. ayun wala na parang tinamad nawalan ng gana..di na nagsisipra di nageensayo..

panay gas lang inaatupag ko now.. pero baka sa april 10 may tugtug kami new bar yun bubuksan palang hehe :wink:

nyaahaaaaa....   :-o
nalakihan sa P300?
anong bar yan?
saan yan?

wag kang ma-frustrate fafi.
tuloy mo lang pag-eensayo mo.
manuod ka ng mga bandang mismo din
para mapulutan mo ng mga diskarte at gimik.
kaibiganin mo din sila kasi matutulungan ka
ng mga kapwa musikero natin diyan sa pag hanap ng gig.
tulungan tayong lahat dito
kasi industriya natin ito.

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« Reply #123 on: April 04, 2010, 08:26:51 PM »


tsaka balansehin mo nga pla
oras mo ng pag eensayo tsaka ng Philmusic   :-D

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« Reply #124 on: April 04, 2010, 08:43:47 PM »
@firewaterjem



hehe oo eh.. mahina pa daw yung bar kaya di daw nila kaya yung budget namen hehe eh dami ngang tao patok na patok tapos wala daw kita hays may mga tao talagang ganun eh..

tinatamad ako magensayo para kasi akong laging umuulit sa umpisa eh laging putol putol

dati atleast 2 hours per day nagguitara as in tuloy2 yun minsan before kumaen after kumaen guitara lang bukod pa yung sipra dun and jam .. puro exercises lang gagawin ko..

pero ang layo na ngayon..nawala na din pati yung pagiging aggresive ko sa guitara.. biglang tabang..

dati  ang want ko lang magguitara ng magguitara.. yung tipong hihinto ka sa pagod mo sa pagguitara..
now wala pa nga sa init ng kamay hinto na.. haysss..