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Offline king_james

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #100 on: November 06, 2010, 08:16:18 AM »
Try niyo LIVE BATTLE AMP 3000 watts 800 dumping factor

Sir pakiexplain ang 3000 watts? Stereo mode or bridged mono? 8 ohms, 4 ohms or 2 ohms?  Halos naman kasi ang mga amps na gawang tsina ay medyo kaduda-duda ang specs.  :roll:  Saka anu pala meaning ng dumping factor?  :? :?

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2010, 08:48:45 AM »
sino ba direct dealer ng LIVE?

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #102 on: November 06, 2010, 10:23:07 AM »
Sa raon si Raygin, Summitron and Masterfix ang nakita kong may power amplifier ng Live... pang 5" and 6" voice coil lang daw ang  bagay na speakers dyan... pina testing ko sa masterfixx sisw lang sa kanya ang mga 4" na voice coil. konti lang adjust ng volume umiiyak na yung speaker... ibang  sound ng battle amp..malakas talaga ang damping factor :-D

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2010, 11:05:01 AM »
Sa raon si Raygin, Summitron and Masterfix ang nakita kong may power amplifier ng Live... pang 5" and 6" voice coil lang daw ang  bagay na speakers dyan... pina testing ko sa masterfixx sisw lang sa kanya ang mga 4" na voice coil. konti lang adjust ng volume umiiyak na yung speaker... ibang  sound ng battle amp..malakas talaga ang damping factor :-D
nasa magkano sya?

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2010, 01:06:49 PM »
1800 watts 8 ohms
3000 watts 4 ohms
6000 watts 2 ohms

800 dumping factor ( jolt ) matindi ito mga bro


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« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2010, 03:43:21 PM »
Sa raon si Raygin, Summitron and Masterfix ang nakita kong may power amplifier ng Live... pang 5" and 6" voice coil lang daw ang  bagay na speakers dyan... pina testing ko sa masterfixx sisw lang sa kanya ang mga 4" na voice coil. konti lang adjust ng volume umiiyak na yung speaker... ibang  sound ng battle amp..malakas talaga ang damping factor :-D

stable po ba sir sa 2 ohms? kaya na 8x18" 5"VC na speakers? :-o

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2010, 04:35:57 PM »
1800 watts 8 ohms
3000 watts 4 ohms
6000 watts 2 ohms

800 dumping factor ( jolt ) matindi ito mga bro
abay matindi nga iyan at tyak na matindi din ang price nya hehe ,magkano ba yan bossing,,

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2010, 05:06:51 PM »
...Sa experience namin pag may bagong labas na power amp sa market , laging binobroadcast na ito daw ang pinakamalakas na power amp at stable lagi sa 2 ohms loading...,, :roll:

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« Reply #108 on: November 06, 2010, 07:23:56 PM »
Damping Factor...ito ay ang kakayahan ng amplifier para labanan ang ano mang impluwensiya mula sa Back EMF(ElectroMagneticForce).

Kadalasan ang Amplifier kapag kayang humak ng mababang karga (2Ω) ay mas mataas na DF(Damping Factor).

Pero habang humahaba ang speaker wire ito ay makabawas sa DF.
Kaya mas mainam gumamit ng Twisted speaker wire or gumawa ng twisted cable at mas mainam kung maigsi lang lang ang mga ito. Ito ay makakatulong lumaban sa Back EMF sa dahilang sila ay nakakansela sa paka-twisted nag wire.

Magandang araw,
jojo
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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2010, 08:57:00 PM »
Damping Factor...ito ay ang kakayahan ng amplifier para labanan ang ano mang impluwensiya mula sa Back EMF(ElectroMagneticForce).

Kadalasan ang Amplifier kapag kayang humak ng mababang karga (2Ω) ay mas mataas na DF(Damping Factor).

Pero habang humahaba ang speaker wire ito ay makabawas sa DF.
Kaya mas mainam gumamit ng Twisted speaker wire or gumawa ng twisted cable at mas mainam kung maigsi lang lang ang mga ito. Ito ay makakatulong lumaban sa Back EMF sa dahilang sila ay nakakansela sa paka-twisted nag wire.

Magandang araw,
jojo
sir kadalasan ang mga ginagamit ng mga rental groups ngaun sa kanilang speaker wire ay ung royal cable ano po ang masasabi nyo dito.at d ko po gaano maunawaan ung twisted wire ,kasi sa mga nakikita ko n ginagamit sa speaker ay ung flat wire at royal cable ,,any pics of twisted wire pls,thnks
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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #110 on: November 07, 2010, 02:14:27 AM »
 Sir, ang alam ko po eh "twisted" wire na rin yung royal cable. gawa ito sa maraming strands ng individual copper wire
 na twisted together to form a bigger wire. correct me if I'm wrong mga sirs.

 sa power amps, napansin ko lang, madalas specified din ang power rating sa 2-ohm load..
 advisable po ba na i-connect ang speakers this way? parang masyado na yatang mababa
 ang impedance kapag ganito.  :lol:

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #111 on: November 07, 2010, 06:28:45 AM »
Twisted Speaker Wire...and some industrial royal cord are twisted, used in communication and broadcasting.



Twisted stranded single wire ay walang kakayahang mag kansela ng EMI sa dahilang iisa lang ang daan o directions ng mga hibla(strands) kailangan daan isang Papunta(Forward) at isang Parating (Return), para epektibo ang pagkansela ay isang pares ng no. 16 stranded wire ito ay naka twist ng counter clockwise.

Para mas epektibong paraan gumawa ng 4 way twisting...kaso magastos nga lang at matrabaho.

Kung titingnan ang Impedance Curve ng mga speakers ang sukat nito ay mababa pagdating sa mabababang frequency tulad ng 40Hz hangang 20Hz...Importanteng may kakayahan ang isang amplifier na magdala ng ganitong impedance loading. Kaya kapag ng load ka ng 2Ω may possibilidad na mas baba ang impedance nito dipended sa lawak frequency na ipinatrabaho (Bandwidth) .

magandang araw,
jojo

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #112 on: November 07, 2010, 06:54:36 AM »
Twisted Speaker Wire...and some industrial royal cord are twisted, used in communication and broadcasting.



Twisted stranded single wire ay walang kakayahang mag kansela ng EMI sa dahilang iisa lang ang daan o directions ng mga hibla(strands) kailangan daan isang Papunta(Forward) at isang Parating (Return), para epektibo ang pagkansela ay isang pares ng no. 16 stranded wire ito ay naka twist ng counter clockwise.

Para mas epektibong paraan gumawa ng 4 way twisting...kaso magastos nga lang at matrabaho.

Kung titingnan ang Impedance Curve ng mga speakers ang sukat nito ay mababa pagdating sa mabababang frequency tulad ng 40Hz hangang 20Hz...Importanteng may kakayahan ang isang amplifier na magdala ng ganitong impedance loading. Kaya kapag ng load ka ng 2Ω may possibilidad na mas baba ang impedance nito dipended sa lawak frequency na ipinatrabaho (Bandwidth) .

magandang araw,
jojo


ahh ganon pala yon ,salamat sa paliwanag sir,,

Offline mr. ultimate

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #113 on: November 07, 2010, 10:38:17 AM »
...Sa experience namin pag may bagong labas na power amp sa market , laging binobroadcast na ito daw ang pinakamalakas na power amp at stable lagi sa 2 ohms loading...,,





Try niyo sir para malaman niyo na malakas talaga

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #114 on: November 07, 2010, 10:40:08 AM »
stable po ba sir sa 2 ohms? kaya na 8x18" 5"VC na speakers? :-o

advisable talaga na 4pcs na 18" 5" coil or 6" coil pag gumamit daw ng battle amp 1.0... nakapag testing kasi ng mga branded na voice coil and kadalasan 4.7 to 5.3 ohms ang mga voice coils nila.. try nyo i kabit ng Sub 18.5 sa battle amp parang 8pcs na rin speaker ang tunog nito :-D

Offline stoney73

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #115 on: November 07, 2010, 03:37:08 PM »
Sir pakiexplain ang 3000 watts? Stereo mode or bridged mono? 8 ohms, 4 ohms or 2 ohms?  Halos naman kasi ang mga amps na gawang tsina ay medyo kaduda-duda ang specs.  :roll:  Saka anu pala meaning ng dumping factor?  :? :?

I think this has been discussed before on another thread and please take note it's DAMPING factor and not dumping.

Lifted from Sweetwater's Power Amplifier: Buying Guide

Damping Factor Demystified
Loudspeakers have a mind of their own. You send them a signal and they add their own twist to it. They keep on vibrating after the signal has stopped, due to inertia. That's called "ringing" or "time smearing." In other words, the speaker produces sound waves that are not part of the original signal. Suppose the incoming signal is a "tight" kick drum with a short attack and decay in its signal envelope. When the kick drum signal stops, the speaker continues to vibrate. The cone bounces back and forth in its suspension. So that nice, snappy kick drum turns into a booming throb. Fortunately, a power amplifier can exert control over the loudspeaker and reduce ringing. Damping is the ability of a power amplifier to control loudspeaker motion. It’s measured in Damping Factor, which is load impedance divided by amplifier output impedance. Let’s explain. If the speaker impedance is 8 ohms, and the amplifier output impedance is 0.01 ohms, the damping factor is 800. That’s a simplification. Since the speaker impedance and amplifier output impedance vary with frequency, so does the damping factor. Also, the impedance of the speaker cable affects damping. Thick cables (with low AWG) allow more damping than thin cables with (high AWG). The lower the amplifier’s output impedance, the higher the damping factor, and the tighter the sound is. A damping factor of 1000 or greater is considered high. As you might suspect, damping factor is most important at low frequencies, say 10 Hz to 400 Hz. High damping factor equals tight bass.

- How It Works
How does an amplifier control speaker motion? When the loudspeaker cone vibrates, it acts like a microphone, generating a signal from its voice coil. This signal generated by the speaker is called back EMF (back Electro Motive Force). It creates a current, which travels through the speaker cable back into the amplifier output, then returns to the speaker. Since back EMF is in opposite polarity with the speaker’s motion, back EMF impedes or damps the speaker’s ringing. The smaller the amplifier output impedance, the greater is the effect of back EMF on the speaker’s motion. An amplifier with low output impedance short-circuits the back EMF, so the back EMF drives the loudspeaker with a relatively strong current that works against the speaker’s motion. When the speaker cone moves out, the back EMF pulls the speaker in, and vice versa.

In short, the loudspeaker damps itself through the amplifier output circuitry. The lower the impedance of that output circuitry, the more the back EMF can control the speaker’s ringing.

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« Reply #116 on: June 01, 2011, 04:30:32 PM »

ACM-M21200 Professional Power Amplifier




SPECIFICATION:

Rated power bridge mode 8 Ohms    3600Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (2 X4 Ohms):    1800 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D. both channels driven
Rated power (2 X 8 Ohms):    1200 Watts per channel @ 1 kHz at <0.5%
T.H.D.both channels driven
Power bandwidth:    20 Hz - 20kHz; +0, -0.5 dB at rated 500 Watts 8 Ohm power
T.H.D.(2 X 4 Ohms):    <0.05%@900 Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
T.H.D.(2 X 8 Ohms):    <0.05%@600Watts per channel from 20 HZ to 20 kHz
Minimum load impedance:    2 Ohms
Maximum RMS voltage swing:    110Volts
Frequency response:    10 Hz - 50 kHz; +0, -3 dB at 1 Watt
Input CMRR:    >-65 dB @ 1 kHz
Rated power (1 X 4 Ohms):    1980 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Rated power (1 X 8 Ohms):    1300 Watts @ 1 kHz at <0.5% T.H.D.
Phase response:    +20 to -25 from 20 Hz to 20 kHz
Input impedance:    20 k Ohms, balanced; 10k Ohms, unbalanced
Cooling:    Tow temperature dependant variable speed 120mm high output DC fans
Controls:    Two front panel attenuators, rear panel mode switch and gain select switch
Voltage gain:    0.775V, 32 dB or 26 dB
Crosstalk:    >-60 dB @ 1 kHz at rated power @ 8 Ohms
Hum and noise:    >-104 dB, "A" weighted referenced to rated power @ 8 Ohms
Slew rate:    >25V/us
Damping factor (8 Ohms):    >800:1 @ 20Hz - 1 kHz
Indicator LEDs:    2 Clip,2 signal presence, 2 active status, 2Protection
Protection:    Thermal, DC, turn-on bursts, incorrect loads
Connectors:    XLR, Speakon and Binding Post speaker output,
240/230 Volt 20 amp IEC mains
Construction:    16 ga. Steel
Dimensions:    132mm x 483 mm x 498 mm
Net weight:    36kg
Gross weight:    39kg

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mga sir, saan kaya ako makakabili nito? and ang how much kaya ito sa market?

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #117 on: June 02, 2011, 12:26:05 PM »
we used this amp crown power base 2, sa sub


SIMPLY THE BEST

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« Reply #118 on: June 02, 2011, 03:34:39 PM »
SIMPLY THE BEST
the best(",) ayun na benta ko yung apat na gayan ko, yung MA2400 at MA2402 naiwan still a best choice :)

looking for more Crown MA's :)
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« Reply #119 on: June 02, 2011, 03:41:20 PM »


iba talaga pag crown  :-)

more MA VZ to come :)
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Offline soundtech

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Re: Amplifier for your subwoofers
« Reply #120 on: June 02, 2011, 04:52:13 PM »
Mga Sir, try nyo yun Soundquest CA series. almost 3 years na sa market. So far wala pang kami natatangap na repair.



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« Reply #121 on: June 02, 2011, 07:22:07 PM »
Mga Sir, try nyo yun Soundquest CA series. almost 3 years na sa market. So far wala pang kami natatangap na repair.





brod, san makakabili nito? taga Bulacan pa kasi ako. thanks. :-D

Offline mr. ultimate

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« Reply #122 on: June 02, 2011, 08:38:16 PM »
Mga sir wait for the new battle amp using motorolla power transistor more power than before

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« Reply #123 on: June 03, 2011, 01:48:27 PM »
Mga sir wait for the new battle amp using motorolla power transistor more power than before

motorola sir? wow, original bang motorola ang nakatatak sa mga transistors?

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« Reply #124 on: June 03, 2011, 03:54:22 PM »
sir pwde ba ako kuha battle amp hulugan? heheheh