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Offline alvincflorentino

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Thanks for sharing the info. I guess they really are two different beasts and another A/B comparison would be fair at a later date when the SN10 would have been "broken in" na 'ika nga. And great pics, too! Sayang, I would have loved to come but my schedule didn't permit. But like you said, the invitation stands, huh?
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Offline irajames

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sayang di ako nakapunta! i totally forgot the date! oh well. dami ko sanang natutunan.
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Offline alien_inside

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In a nutshell: the SN10 was "flatter" with a bigger bass and de-emphasized "high mids" and less harsh highs.

The NS10's had tighter bass, harsher (albeit more detailed highs).

The SN10 need not tout itself as an NS10 clone, because it is clearly not such. That being said however, it does does not need to tout itself as an NS10 clone because it is a good sounding piece of gear specially for the price.

However if you take an engineer who has spent lots of time on NS10's and put him in front of SN10's...he will not exactly be fish in water because there are some glaring differences. One will have to be acclimated once more to the SN10's.

The similarities end with the white paper cone that the two speakers share. It is not a clone, but a good speaker set.

NB The comparison could be premature IMHO as the SN10's were quite brand new and not yet broken in. Perhaps another A/B test would be appropriate after the SN10's have done some time.
As NS10 user for more than 20,000 hours already, narinig ko agad yung difference. - 30 secs to 1 minute... Yung SN10 ang una kong pinatunog, then the NS10.

Its a good speaker set... FOR TRACKING ( that's my opinion ). I won't use it for MIXING.
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some photos at Tracks Studio

Control Room

Stilljey, Sir MikeP, Bamf, NS10 Reborn, Audio-e


Angee Rozul, sir MikeP


sir mikeP measured freq. response of both speakers


audio-e, Bamf, Stilljey, Angee Rozul


Mixing Room

Bamf, sir MikeP, Stilljey

thanks to sir mike sa accomodation, maganda rin naging sharing namin masyadong seryoso ang usapan especially sa music industry natin at mga recording studios. Yung actual detailed  A/B ng NS10 at SN10 ay nasa video, you can hear the difference, then pakinggan din natin ang comment ni sir mikeP......try ko iupload yung vid soon.  8-)
Thanks again to Sir Mike and Angee Rozul...
Those of you who would like to see and listen to the speakers and maybe decide if they could work for yourselves why dont you visit Tracks Recording Studio at 19 Delgado st. San Antonio Village, Pasig... its a good way to learn and hear for yourself.  True we had a very good discussion regarding the speaker the industry and others... sir Mike had his comments as well regarding the speakers which so far are these...

SN10 was smoother not hifi sounding like the other new monitors you can find in the market today
Flat natural those things that other people say they would like to be adjusted on the ns10's was in a way addressed on the SN10's... e.g.  harshness on the top end which some people prefer... or call it brilliance...
anyway.... we'll wait for sir Mikes over all assessment on these monitors...

The speakers will stay there up till 24th or 25th April... salamat again to those who have attended... cheers



Offline alvincflorentino

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As NS10 user for more than 20,000 hours already, narinig ko agad yung difference. - 30 secs to 1 minute... Yung SN10 ang una kong pinatunog, then the NS10.

Its a good speaker set... FOR TRACKING ( that's my opinion ). I won't use it for MIXING.

May we hear a more detailed description of the similarities/differences based on your assessment, sir?
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biglaang gig that same day and time sayang!

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Sorry for the late post.  I find Soundsphere's SN10 to be a good monitoring speaker but is definitely not an NS 10 clone.  The thing I immediately noticed is a flattened mid high which is smoother compare to the harsh sound of the NS10.  I also noticed a boosted mid low, thus the entire sound is a little bit smoother, balanced and bassier.  For its price, as offered by NS10 Reborn, it is a good alternative speaker system,  I would definitely use it as a main monitoring system, noting that, being used to NS10s, I can further boost the mid highs to approximate the sound of the NS10.  The resulting sound will be a more in your face mix, the result of more pronounced mid highs.

As in any monitoring speaker, it is important for one to get used to its sound.  I can easily get used to the SN10's characteristics.

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i need to have an EQ before the SN10... either to make it harsh a little bit like the NS... and cut a little on the MID-LOW...( or the other way )... but the setting will still change ( my mind also) as soon as the SN10 arrives inside my room...
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i need to have an EQ before the SN10... either to make it harsh a little bit like the NS... and cut a little on the MID-LOW...( or the other way )... but the setting will still change ( my mind also) as soon as the SN10 arrives inside my room...
kung gagamit kaya ng ARC system ng IK Multimedia? mag wo-work kaya?

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Nakafield ako nung day na yun.. Kainis ang tagal kong hinintay bigla akong binigyan ng assignment. Anyway, meron na bang price ito?

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NS10Reborn will be leaving on the 28th of this month.  I just bought the SN10 pair from him.  He said that Studiospares requires that 2 pairs (4 speakers) be bought for each transaction so you can get the low price point.  He said that his price is already landed cost, but allow me to let him be the one to tell you the price he quotes everyone.

If there are some who would like to give the speakers a listen, we can organize another listening session one of these days when a lot more people are free.  Set a date and I'll see if we can have it in the studio.

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Offline Peter North

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Thanks sir Mike, I would definitely want to hear them. Sino kaya pa sa mga hindi nakapunta ang gustong makarinig?

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NS10Reborn will be leaving on the 28th of this month.  I just bought the SN10 pair from him.  He said that Studiospares requires that 2 pairs (4 speakers) be bought for each transaction so you can get the low price point.  He said that his price is already landed cost, but allow me to let him be the one to tell you the price he quotes everyone.

If there are some who would like to give the speakers a listen, we can organize another listening session one of these days when a lot more people are free.  Set a date and I'll see if we can have it in the studio.

FWIW

Sir mikep, is it possible 2nd week of May? another listening session...  :-D, I'll be in Manila starting May 8. Thanks!


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Count me in for the second listening session

Offline bellhaus

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ako rin sure na!

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Sorry for the late post.  I find Soundsphere's SN10 to be a good monitoring speaker but is definitely not an NS 10 clone.  The thing I immediately noticed is a flattened mid high which is smoother compare to the harsh sound of the NS10.  I also noticed a boosted mid low, thus the entire sound is a little bit smoother, balanced and bassier.  For its price, as offered by NS10 Reborn, it is a good alternative speaker system,  I would definitely use it as a main monitoring system, noting that, being used to NS10s, I can further boost the mid highs to approximate the sound of the NS10.  The resulting sound will be a more in your face mix, the result of more pronounced mid highs.

As in any monitoring speaker, it is important for one to get used to its sound.  I can easily get used to the SN10's characteristics.

FWIW


Salamat again sir Mike... I just arrived dito sa UK the home of the SN10's... hehehe... also, thanks for getting the pair off my hands... really good idea for people interested to hear them to really have a first hand listen to them at Tracks... (the only SN10 Pair in the Country)

Guys if you want to listen to the speakers contact us here at Tracks Recording studio contact sir Mike Pedero and best thing regarding ordering to get the best possible landed price sa Manila we need to order in batches... it will be cheaper. You dont have to worry about customs duties and taxes and mahal na shipping cost.  in the meantime, pick up point will be at Tracks Recording Studio kela sir Mike Pedero.  (is this ok sir mike?)

SN10 Price ( Pair )   15,840 pesos (promotional price)   (order and pick up niyo kela sir mike hope ok lang to sir mike)

but i would recommend put your order in as quick as possible kasi naka promo pa... we have to have 4 pairs ordered at the same time to get the best price.   we have two orders in now so only two slots left for this next batch of monitors. 

email me for questions.  jhelloy@hotmail.co.uk  or pm me here. 




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Thanks sir Mike, I would definitely want to hear them. Sino kaya pa sa mga hindi nakapunta ang gustong makarinig?
Palagi naman nandun si Angee... punta na lang anytime... pero syempre mas masaya kung madami...but make appointments first....
« Last Edit: May 30, 2010, 02:00:16 AM by alien_inside »
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We have to set a schedule.  At TRACKS, when somebody is using the studio, we just cannot come in and see what is happening.  As the clients are renting the studio, they have all the right to privacy.  I myself, do not just barge in to the studio when clients are using it.  I call Angee and we talk outside.

I have to look at the schedules second week of May and see if we can get a day for listening to the SN10s.  I'll let you know.

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yes mga bro... you have to ring and book an appointment with Angee Rozul to listen to the speakers...

if you have other queries regarding ordering and payment and or shipping ...drop me an email...

jhelloy@hotmail.co uk....   cheers

we can do paypal or BDO bank transfer deposit... cheers

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Palagi naman nandun si Angee... punta na lang anytime... pero syempre mas masaya kung madami...

puntahan niyo... tawag lang sa tracks... dont forget magandang speakers and cheaper kasi direct kayo... also,  good quality... ask the engineers...

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puntahan niyo... tawag lang sa tracks... dont forget magandang speakers and cheaper kasi direct kayo... also,  good quality... ask the engineers...

If you are a fan of the NS10 Yamaha's... check this speakers out they could be a 2nd reference alternative for you... great speakers at great price... check it out... www.sn10.webs.com

Thanks to you all... we are looking for dealers as well...

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If you are a fan of the NS10 Yamaha's... check this speakers out they could be a 2nd reference alternative for you... great speakers at great price... check it out... www.sn10.webs.com

Thanks to you all... we are looking for dealers as well...
I recommend this....
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I recommend this....

Salamat brad... mabuhay ang pinoy producers

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Salamat brad... mabuhay ang pinoy producers
at musikang pinoy....



pm u..
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Yamaha NS10 Reborn vs SN10 Showcase At Tracks... Join na List Below

Are you a fan of the Yamaha NS10's?  

Did you know that Yamaha NS10's were discontinued since 2006?  

Would you get one or buy one if it has been reborn?  

What if some company which sells their parts makes the same on different name but better and cheaper  would you buy a pair?
 :? :? :?

Call in to listen and see the speakers... need to book first... its free anyway... cheers
 
We will investigate thru the help of our experts and see how the challenger compares with the Legend...  

Enjoy the fun and join us...