ZOOM + BOSTON HM100 = HELP!

[Joas]

Help po. May Zoom 707II ako binigay ng pinsan ko binigay din nya HM100 nya.
Ang tanong ko po pwede ko ba idugtong ung HM100 ko sa 707II?
Katulad nung Mga pedals ko pinag dugtongdugtong ko DS-1 Mt-2 Noisesupressor Dd100.
pwede din po ba?

[renz13]

yup pwede ganyan setup ko ngayon ZOOM+BOSTON HM200 nga lang gamit ko

pero pwede yan

[kune_km]

IMO, try this chain:

Guitar > HM100 > Zoom 707 > Amp

[superbuni123]

IMO, try this chain:

Guitar > HM100 > Zoom 707 > Amp

+1

[omarrodriguezvic]

pwede. kaso nung tinray kong pagsamahin yung zoom g2 ko sa analog pedals eh WOW! Sobrang tone suck ng zoom! ewan ko lang kung yung zomm 707 eh ganun din, try mo na lang

[kune_km]

usually, multi-fx' sucks your tone big time.

in my case i cascaded a gcb95, bad monkey and a ds1 to my zoom g1. since the function of my g1 is to provide me with modulation, reverb, eq and delays, the setting of my g1 on the first patch (A0) is usually reverb fx only. this patch serves as my bypass mode just to give me a good ambiance.

next patches (A1....) with have delay, eq, modulation fx, reverb, etc.

but if you really want to avoid the tone suck coming from your zoom or whatever multi-fx unit, just use a true-by pass looper.

as for me, the above settings works naman.

[justine3563]

usually, multi-fx' sucks your tone big time.

in my case i cascaded a gcb95, bad monkey and a ds1 to my zoom g1. since the function of my g1 is to provide me with modulation, reverb, eq and delays, the setting of my g1 on the first patch (A0) is usually reverb fx only. this patch serves as my bypass mode just to give me a good ambiance.

next patches (A1....) with have delay, eq, modulation fx, reverb, etc.

but if you really want to avoid the tone suck coming from your zoom or whatever multi-fx unit, just use a true-by pass looper.

as for me, the above settings works naman.

+1

looper katapat ng tone suck

[renz13]

usually, multi-fx' sucks your tone big time.

in my case i cascaded a gcb95, bad monkey and a ds1 to my zoom g1. since the function of my g1 is to provide me with modulation, reverb, eq and delays, the setting of my g1 on the first patch (A0) is usually reverb fx only. this patch serves as my bypass mode just to give me a good ambiance.

next patches (A1....) with have delay, eq, modulation fx, reverb, etc.

but if you really want to avoid the tone suck coming from your zoom or whatever multi-fx unit, just use a true-by pass looper.

as for me, the above settings works naman.

+1 ulit naka true bypass looper yung multi ko at sya yung last sa lahat ng pedal

[kune_km]

+1

looper katapat ng tone suck

that's the best solution talaga. and maraming diy'er dito satin who can customized your requirements at a very minimal cost.

ung settings ko kasi is tipid mode kaya di na ako gumamit ng looper. heheheheh

[colorless krayola]

Mga sir, forgive my ignorance.
Tanong ko lang, how does the looper works..?
pa'no po ba set-up nya..? I mean the signal flow..? salamat po..!

[renz13]

Mga sir, forgive my ignorance.
Tanong ko lang, how does the looper works..?
pa'no po ba set-up nya..? I mean the signal flow..? salamat po..!

umm pag naka on INPUT-EFFECTS SEND-EFFECTS-EFFECTS RETURN_OUTPUT

pag naka off o bypass INPUT-OUTPUT

ganyan ba yung meaning mo ng signal flow?

[colorless krayola]

^ i mean, ganito sir... guitar->effects->amp
sa'n po ilalagay yun looper jan sir..?

[r_chino18]

Mga sir, forgive my ignorance.
Tanong ko lang, how does the looper works..?
pa'no po ba set-up nya..? I mean the signal flow..? salamat po..!

i hope this illustration makes more sense.. 
basically meron kang parang pseudo on and off para dun sa multi effect.. so lagi na siya naka-on.. pero may master switch siya, yun yung looper.. parang ganun..

[colorless krayola]

^ ahh okay... so, parang LINE CHANGER sya...
from LINE A, pwede mo ilipat sa LINE B...

okay mga sir... kuha ko na... salamat!

[renz13]

^ i mean, ganito sir... guitar->effects->amp
sa'n po ilalagay yun looper jan sir..?

ahh yun po sinabi na po ni sir chino

[r_chino18]

^ ahh okay... so, parang LINE CHANGER sya...
from LINE A, pwede mo ilipat sa LINE B...

okay mga sir... kuha ko na... salamat!

parang ganun.. pero basically.. pag naka-off yung looper, yung signal mo is just like guitar > DS1 > amp... based from the illustration..

pag naka on na yung looper, magiging guitar > DS-1 > Zoom G2R > amp..

gets? parang biabypass mo lang talaga yung buong G2R pag naka-off yung looper.. 
i don't know if pareho lang sa line changer.. but maybe you can put it that way.. 

[colorless krayola]

pareho lang sir...
it's more like a switch..
example, from line 1 with a specific flow of signal changing it to line 2 with a different signal flow...
I believe this looper is just acting as a switch...No active components really involve,if there is that would only serve as filters...
salamat sir!

[r_chino18]

pareho lang sir...
it's more like a switch..
example, from line 1 with a specific flow of signal changing it to line 2 with a different signal flow...
I believe this looper is just acting as a switch...No active components really involve,if there is that would only serve as filters...
salamat sir!

kung may filter na yung looper.. baka hindi na siya matatawag na true bypass looper, but just a simple looper or switcher.. 
yes, a true bypass looper is passive.. kailangan mo lang siya ipower for the LED indicator..

nevertheless.. i think we're thinking of the same thing..  a single switch true bypass looper is actually very easy to DIY..

[colorless krayola]

ahh yun po sinabi na po ni sir chino

ahh oo, pareho lang pala... haha

[colorless krayola]

kung may filter na yung looper.. baka hindi na siya matatawag na true bypass looper, but just a simple looper or switcher.. 
yes, a true bypass looper is passive.. kailangan mo lang siya ipower for the LED indicator..

nevertheless.. i think we're thinking of the same thing..  a single switch true bypass looper is actually very easy to DIY..

Sir, YES! Sir!
pareho lang yata.. haha
Anyways, Thank you Sir for enlightening my thoughts... haha

[justine3563]

pwede mo compare yung looper sa riles ng train,kapag pinull mo yung kambyo (switch) mada-divert ng daanan yung train(signal)..

[colorless krayola]

pwede mo compare yung looper sa riles ng train,kapag pinull mo yung parang kambyo (switch) magiiba ng da-divert ng daanan yung train(signal)..

parang ganun yun Sir... sa pagkakaintindi ko... haha

[GNOB29]

puedeng puede...

kaso experiment mo sya...

kasi ako ang set up ko dati is Morley Power Wah, DS100, MT2 at G2.1u kaso may noise siya kapag naka dirt ako di ko ma explain ung noise...

i tried to change the arrangements Wah, MT2, DS100 at G2.1u ngayon ok na... nawala ung noise...

[rednas]

I'm thinking of getting the Zoom G2.1nu mostly because of it's small size and USB option.  I'll probably get a decent OD or Boost pedal din.  I have not tried chaining analog pedals to multifx yet and have no clue as to this "tone suck".  Does it mean na parang nakaroll back yung tone control sa gitara?  Any sound clip showing this? 

[r_chino18]

I'm thinking of getting the Zoom G2.1nu mostly because of it's small size and USB option.  I'll probably get a decent OD or Boost pedal din.  I have not tried chaining analog pedals to multifx yet and have no clue as to this "tone suck".  Does it mean na parang nakaroll back yung tone control sa gitara?  Any sound clip showing this? 

yung tone suck bro is like a signal or loss ng high frequencies usually.. so in essence, pwede mo rin sabihin na parang niroll down yung tone knob ng konti..

dadaan na kasi yung buong signal mo sa multi, in will process the signal heavily thus paglabas niya (kahit bypassed yung multi), hindi na ganun ka-pure, so to say.. kaya nilalagay sila sa looper.. para dadaan lang yung signal sa multi pag naka-on yung looper.. in a way, napepreserve mo yung true signal mo..