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« Reply #100 on: November 28, 2007, 02:25:02 AM »
Pero parang may lamang pa din ang IC sa adjustability sa Elims kasi diba magkahiwalay yung adjustment ng beater angle nun sa footboard height? Ang elims kasi iisa lang eh.. Tsaka alam ko mas secured ang beater mo dun dahil mas mukang matatag ang pagkakahawak ng beater holder nun kesa sa ibang pedals. At mukang mas ok din yung clamp nun para sa bass drum... Para sakin ang lamang lang ng elims sa IC ay changeable yung cams nya. :-)
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« Reply #101 on: November 28, 2007, 06:38:13 AM »
Pero parang may lamang pa din ang IC sa adjustability sa Elims kasi diba magkahiwalay yung adjustment ng beater angle nun sa footboard height? Ang elims kasi iisa lang eh.. Tsaka alam ko mas secured ang beater mo dun dahil mas mukang matatag ang pagkakahawak ng beater holder nun kesa sa ibang pedals. At mukang mas ok din yung clamp nun para sa bass drum... Para sakin ang lamang lang ng elims sa IC ay changeable yung cams nya. :-)

Hhmm kaya pala kakaiba ung titig mo dun sa IronCobra sa Audiophile sa Festival Mall ha...GAS attack ka ba dun bro??? :-D
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« Reply #102 on: November 28, 2007, 01:17:01 PM »
Hhmm kaya pala kakaiba ung titig mo dun sa IronCobra sa Audiophile sa Festival Mall ha...GAS attack ka ba dun bro??? :-D

Yep, tagal ko ng pinagiipunan yun bro.  8-) Heheh..
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« Reply #103 on: November 29, 2007, 01:19:03 AM »
rolling glide fields forever la la la la la
@IC hater
i hope you're not saying dw's are like ferrari just because of the red crap around the thing...5k
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« Reply #104 on: November 29, 2007, 01:22:05 AM »
rolling glide fields forever la la la la la
@IC hater
i hope you're not saying dw's are like ferrari just because of the red crap around the thing...5k



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« Reply #105 on: November 29, 2007, 01:22:22 AM »
ayos.  galing...  basta mas kompyansa ako sa DW at Pearl.  Sa IC, kahit anong adjustment ko, wala.  Tsaka sakin yung IC na ginamit ko.  Binili ko sya, wala pang one year, binenta ko na.  Hinde ko lang sya nasubukan.  Kung hindi ka naniniwala na mas sluggish ang IC kesa sa iba, ok ka.  Pero ako, nagkaron na ako nung 3 pedals na yan at yung IC ang pinipili ko i-dispose.. Mas ok pa SAKIN (sakin lang.. hinde ko sinasabi para sa lahat) Yung IC Jr. Dahil, yung cam nya, mas magaan, single chain kaya mas magaan.  Nagkaron na ren ako ng IC at IC jr sabay, kaya hinde ko lang sya nasubukan, nagamit ko pa talaga ng puspusan.  Yun sa IC... well...

Hinde sila pareho ng design ng DW.  SObra ka naman.  TIngnan mo mabuti kung gano kasimple ang DW. Yung mga unang models ng DW, malapit talaga sila sa camco, Yung Tama, Tamco naman nun.  Dun mejo hawig pero yung 1st gen IC, ang layo na sa Camco at Tamco, pero yung DW, faithful pa ren.  Kaya wag mo sabihin na pareho sila.  Itsura pa lang ng IC, mabagal at mabigat na.  But then again, para sa mga owners ng lahat ng klase ng pedals, IT'S NOT THE EQUIPMENT, IT'S THE DRUMMER...  Whichever floats your boat.

Yung DW at pearl, out of the box, ok na.  Yung IC sobrang rugged talaga, as in rugged pang away kanto.  Hampas mo sa lahat ng kaaway mo pero yung DW, iba talaga. Para syang... Ferrari, tas yung IC, tanke.  Para sakin, prestige ang magkaron ka ng DW pedal. (para sakin lang yun. kaya wag na kayo mag comment dun, please lang... Paki lang) 

At baket naman hinde gagawin ng TAMA mag out source?  Pwede mo ba patunayan un?  E kung makakababa ng cost at makakataas ng profits, baket hinde?  Ginagawa na nga yun nga madaming madaming kompanya and it works for them. Ako hinde ko mapapatunayan na nag o outsource ang TAMA kaya tahimik na lang ako. Ayoko magmagaling.  Nagtanong lang ako.  Hinde ako naggagawa ng conclusions.

Wag nyo na pansinin tong post ko.  Wala ako pinagbabasehan, experiences ko lang naman ito lahat, wala ako alam sa mga patents and such.  Hinde ko na naiintindihan yun.  Nakakita lang ako ng mga IC clone.  Yun lang.  Hinde ko nagamit yung IC clone na yun.  OK?  OK! Hinde ko sinasabing panget yung ganyan, mas maganda yung ganito, nakakita lang ako at nagtatanong kung ganun nga ba talaga.  Hinde ako gumagawa ng assumptions para sa iba. 
so ibigsabihin mo ba is mas matibay ang iron cobra kesa sa dw mo? hahaha

i got your point, captain america but uhmmm...you're trying to say na mas prestige ang dw sa IC? yeah siguro nga...pero mas matibay ang tanke diba?

oh constructive daw dapat sabi ni anthony dio oh..
again IMHO sometimes it's better to be more conerned sa durability than performance..kasi mapa dw, yamaha, tama, pearl etc... ang ma-mahal ng hardware na yan so since nasa poordoy na bansa tayo..maganda din maging practical. dun na ako sa tatagal which is IMO Tama

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« Last Edit: November 29, 2007, 02:21:55 AM by drumster »
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« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2007, 01:27:36 AM »
Remember, opinions are personal judgements.  Some may agree, some may not.  Let's respect each other's opinions.  Let's make our discussions civil and constructive.  No flame-baiting, please.  Let's not get too emotional and sensitive.  Walang personalan.  Sharing, tulungan, kwentuhan at kapatiran dito sa Pinoydrums, aight?  Just a friendly reminder...  8-)
« Last Edit: November 29, 2007, 01:35:17 AM by drumster »

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« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2007, 01:36:54 AM »
Ok.. I take it that you do not understand anything you are saying.  I am not an IC hater. I just prefer the other 2 brands over the IC.  If you have any problems with that, spare me your whinings. 

Just to satisfy your fishing for my faults...  Yes the IC is built tougher than the DW.  I was not trying to prove that the DW is more durable vs. the IC anyway. So what's your point?


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« Reply #108 on: November 29, 2007, 01:47:27 AM »
sorry na huhuhuh wag po koya. sige na mas maganda na ung dw mo. lolz




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« Reply #109 on: November 29, 2007, 01:52:31 AM »
Yep, tagal ko ng pinagiipunan yun bro.  8-) Heheh..
loko ka hinihimas mo yung beater. nagbabantay dun sama ng tingin sayo.

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« Reply #110 on: November 29, 2007, 01:56:04 AM »
Remember, opinions are personal judgements.  Some may agree, some may not.  Let's respect each other's opinions.  Let's make our discussions civil and constructive.  No flame-baiting, please.  Let's not get too emotional and sensitive.  Walang personalan.  Sharing, tulungan, kwentuhan at kapatiran dito sa Pinoydrums, aight?  Just a friendly reminder...  8-)
Honga, tulungan, kwentuhan at kapatiran. Walang personalan at emohan. :-D
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Re: Tama Iron Cobra thread
« Reply #111 on: November 29, 2007, 02:05:47 AM »
sorry na huhuhuh wag po koya. sige na mas maganda na ung dw mo. lolz




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« Reply #112 on: November 29, 2007, 03:33:34 AM »
loko ka hinihimas mo yung beater. nagbabantay dun sama ng tingin sayo.
He can't blame me, sisihin nya yung tama for making such a great pedal!  8-)
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« Reply #113 on: November 29, 2007, 04:09:00 PM »
ayus! may warning nanaman ako for posting my opinion. yan nga c mesh and lace nagagagalit na at ayaw kumalma dahil mas maganda daw para sa kanya ang dw kesa tama IC.. tpos ako pa ung hindi desente mag post..hindi na nga ako nakipag talo sa kanya hahaha.
at hindi pa daw constructive ang post ko..matanong ko lang sir.. hindi ba constructive ung opinion ko na mas maganda kung pipiliin ung durability over peformance kasi mahal ung mga hardware na yan so mas magansa (for me) kung pipiliin mo ung tatagal?...hindi ba constructive yan and decent?

anyway everyone have the right to say their opinions here diba?
ito opinion ko...mas maganda ang tama IC kesa dw pedal...meron ako dw 5000 dati eh hindi ko trip at walang kwenta binenta ko nalang sa junk shop. haha
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« Reply #114 on: November 29, 2007, 04:32:58 PM »
ayus! may warning nanaman ako for posting my opinion.

dude di ka nakakuha ng warning for posting your opinion, I believe you were warned dahil sa delivery mo ng opinions mo... tama si sir mod, our opinions are our own, so kung sabihin kong mas gs2 ko fernando peds ko over anything else then leave me be... kahit pa you dont agree with me, kung may iba kang gusto then post away pero wag mo na ipilit yung opinion mo sa iba by attacking the post/poster...

these thread is supposed to be a repository of why people like or dislike the IC not why people should or should not like the IC... gets?
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« Reply #115 on: November 29, 2007, 04:49:47 PM »
may warning nanaman ako for posting my opinion.

For the record this is a false statement. You were not given a warning for merely stating your opinion; without opinions what would this board be? You were noted for the manner in which you stated your opinion (as you were also previously).

I can't stress enough how much the manner of delivery in communication affects the recipient (in this case everyone is a listener). Respect should be our universal motto in this forum and you have to give it to receive it. Sarcasm can also be regarded as an offensive statement so be sensitive as well.

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« Reply #116 on: November 30, 2007, 07:38:08 AM »
OT...

I sent a PM to Paolo-I-b.

Bros god5_g1ft & Akira, I agree with your comments.  It's about the manner of delivery.

Okay, no more off-topic stuff beyond this point.  Back to Iron Cobra talk...

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« Reply #117 on: December 15, 2007, 09:49:40 AM »

help naman on IC powerglide adjustments... what i have is not the 2007 model btw..

just acquired my twin pedal powerglide IC last month, galing ako sa generic china double pedal na nbbili sa jb na parang powerglide din ung cam ,, medium tension springs, slightly higher pedal, normal beater angle,

i tried the same set up sa ICs, i love the fast full response and impact, but it still seems heavier though theres not much recoil/bounce from the beater...

i know i just need some time getting used to it, but would there be any other adjustment i need to do to achieve a lighter feel? i also found out na heavier ang weight ng beater ng IC compared dun sa generic, i think thats also a factor.. so help anyone?? tnx mga bro's!! \m/ >__< \m/
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« Reply #118 on: December 15, 2007, 02:01:16 PM »
help naman on IC powerglide adjustments... what i have is not the 2007 model btw..

just acquired my twin pedal powerglide IC last month, galing ako sa generic china double pedal na nbbili sa jb na parang powerglide din ung cam ,, medium tension springs, slightly higher pedal, normal beater angle,

i tried the same set up sa ICs, i love the fast full response and impact, but it still seems heavier though theres not much recoil/bounce from the beater...

i know i just need some time getting used to it, but would there be any other adjustment i need to do to achieve a lighter feel? i also found out na heavier ang weight ng beater ng IC compared dun sa generic, i think thats also a factor.. so help anyone?? tnx mga bro's!! \m/ >__< \m/

you can try this:
loosen the spring to maybe half or 2/3 of the tension you have right now..

etong susunod na steps is to get the beater angle and footboard height na gusto mo:
loosen ung speedo ring assembly (eto ung may parang black na may guhit guhit for markings) na nakakabit sa shaft. loosen din ung beater na nakakabit dun sa cam... Tapos, i-ikot ung cam para makuha ung footboard height na gusto mo... then tighten the speedo ring assembly. Tapos position the beater sa angle na gusto mo.. Then tighten that beater into position... I think sa ganyang way, makukuha mo ung height ng footboard and angle nung beater na gusto mo without having a tight spring tension..

Kung medyo magulo ung pagkakapaliwanag, Im sure someone can demo it to you :-).. And I think, laro laro lang din sa settings... Medyo natagalan din ako kung anong setting ung gusto ko eh. kailangan din kasi hindi tuloy tuloy yung pagtesting ng adjustment kasi pag ginawa sa isang upuan, masasanay na kaagad ung paa... Ang sabi ni peeves sa akin non, bago ko daw gawin ung adjustments, do singles and doubles muna on the floor para lang ma-warm up yung paa saka ka lang gagawa ng adjustments..

actually, hanggang ngayon, hindi ko pa rin makuha yung talagang gustong gusto kong feel eh.. pero ok na rin muna..

hth.. :-)

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« Reply #119 on: December 16, 2007, 10:29:21 AM »
December na wala pa din yung IC ko...

sana before xmas dumating na sya, para ma-apply ko ang mga natutunan ko dito sa thread na ito..

btw, merry xmas to all pedal owners...let us give peace and love to each other. :lol: :lol:

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« Reply #120 on: December 16, 2007, 11:04:01 AM »
you can try this:
loosen the spring to maybe half or 2/3 of the tension you have right now..

etong susunod na steps is to get the beater angle and footboard height na gusto mo:
loosen ung speedo ring assembly (eto ung may parang black na may guhit guhit for markings) na nakakabit sa shaft. loosen din ung beater na nakakabit dun sa cam... Tapos, i-ikot ung cam para makuha ung footboard height na gusto mo... then tighten the speedo ring assembly. Tapos position the beater sa angle na gusto mo.. Then tighten that beater into position... I think sa ganyang way, makukuha mo ung height ng footboard and angle nung beater na gusto mo without having a tight spring tension..

Kung medyo magulo ung pagkakapaliwanag, Im sure someone can demo it to you :-).. And I think, laro laro lang din sa settings... Medyo natagalan din ako kung anong setting ung gusto ko eh. kailangan din kasi hindi tuloy tuloy yung pagtesting ng adjustment kasi pag ginawa sa isang upuan, masasanay na kaagad ung paa... Ang sabi ni peeves sa akin non, bago ko daw gawin ung adjustments, do singles and doubles muna on the floor para lang ma-warm up yung paa saka ka lang gagawa ng adjustments..

actually, hanggang ngayon, hindi ko pa rin makuha yung talagang gustong gusto kong feel eh.. pero ok na rin muna..

hth.. :-)

tnx for the useful tips bro!! i do the adjusments one at a time.. tho sabi nila, tlgang mas heavier daw tlga ang feel ng ICs, so adjust at sanayan nalang cguro to.. :P \m/
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« Reply #121 on: December 30, 2007, 07:27:54 PM »
Question sa mga IC owners... I got mine yesterday @ audiophile pioneer... Ask ko lang kung wala ba talagang "drum hammer" na kasama yung Iron Cobra? Wala kasing kasamang ganun sakin at mejo nag dududa ako kung kinuha lang ba nila yon o ano... Thanks! :-)
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« Reply #122 on: December 30, 2007, 07:42:07 PM »
Question sa mga IC owners... I got mine yesterday @ audiophile pioneer... Ask ko lang kung wala ba talagang "drum hammer" na kasama yung Iron Cobra? Wala kasing kasamang ganun sakin at mejo nag dududa ako kung kinuha lang ba nila yon o ano... Thanks! :-)

Waw! nakuha na nya ung pinakaaasamasam at hinihimas himas nya sa audiophile sa festivalmall oh...yeah!!! magkano score mo sa IC mo bro? Nice nice!!! :-D
btw, san na ung 6611db mo? hehehe :-D
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« Reply #123 on: December 30, 2007, 09:15:57 PM »
audiophile sa may robinsons pioneer bro.. hehe.. 18.5k tlga less 8% pag cash bali 17,020 nlang tapos inalis na yung butal bali ang kuha ay 17,000php.. Hehe... Sakin pa rin yung 6611db bro di ko bebenta... Ok yun pang practice. :D
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« Reply #124 on: December 30, 2007, 09:17:52 PM »
astig talaga to si joseph. nakaka ingit. ang gaganda ng gamit :)