Would You Spend More Than Php 4k for a Distortion or OD Pedal?

[yngwie09]

Kung maganda ang kalalabasan bakit hindi. pero priority muna kung wala masyadong budget try other alternatives pa onti-onti hanggang may pambili na.

[teleclem]

Why the assumption that tone is all about price? That's a very bad way to think about tone. When evaluating gear, you evaluate it for what it is and not through its price tag.

I particularly like this post from one of my favorite bloggers.

Ito yung first paragraph:

I just realized that the two amps I currently use are pretty much as far apart on the boutique/coolness/pricey spectrum as they come: Matchless and Epiphone Valve Junior. This makes me happy. It means that it’s about what sounds good for a particular application, not about compensating for insecurities in life with high-priced boutique gear, or conversely, about compensating for having no cash by telling yourself that price doesn’t matter. Those two amps sitting side by side really exemplifies my mantra: ‘Tone is not about price. But sometimes it is.’

Rest of article here - http://www.guitarforworship.com/?p=4178

Good read.

If you must know about my current personal experience.. The drive I've pretty much settled on cost me a lot. But I like how one my friends put it (he was one of the guys who recommended it to me) - It's a funny feeling because we've all had the bad experience of spending so much money on different hyped up pedals and then being let down. You'll feel burned and ripped off. But then, one day you spend a lot once more on a pedal and it just lives up and even exceeds your expectations. It's a very good feeling. Price? More than most care to spend (~400) but for me, it's totally worth it. In fact, I immediately went out and bought another pedal in the line a week after.. it was that good. I'm even in talks for a third one, if finances permit over the holidays. And yes, I think I've tried out and owned a lot of the expensive and hyped dirt pedals out there. These are just on a different level. Having good gear allows me to enjoy my guitar playing more. Feeling great with my most favoritest hobby is a feeling I'm willing to spend for. Heck, there are lots of bad ways to waste your money - gambling, vices, etc. At least dito, productive and fulfilling ( & income-generating for some) yung pinupuntahan.

For some - and this is an interesting observation for me - buying "boutique gear" made by true modern-day artisans (just look at the ace luthiers, amp builders, pedal makers today) is a way of patronizing art. It sounds outlandish at first.. but when you think of it, I think it's a unique appeal of high-priced gear. Kind of fits in with the "one man building amazing gear for a select few" mentality of boutique gear (think of all those high-priced luthiers, PaulC at making Tims, etc). And when you see these instruments.. you'll really see the effort put into them (think Malinoski, etc).

[riffscreamer]

More than P4k?

Yes.

More than 10k?

Ipon nalang ako for amp.

[freemansj]

finally found the drive sound i'm looking for, it costs $230 though. this will be the most expensive pedal i'll be buying.

kapatid, parang yan yung tinignan ko din kagabi ah...  kulay pula ba o itim ito?  hehehe...

[freemansj]

i did get myself two drive pedals; one in the sub-4k category (an MV Shredhead), and one in the above-4k category (a Lovepedal Eternity Burst).


both of those pedals, standing alone or chained together, give me the type of tone i was gunning for, and so my purchases are entirely justified.

nahumaling ka na din sa electric guitars, bro?   

[blacktele]

Yes of course, as long I need it I'll buy it. I don't put a price ceiling on it. And why a 4k price limit? Why not 10k or 20k?

[rowley75]

yes.. and already did.

[dirk]

mine cost around $300 internet price but got it for less than 4k pesos,
but if it would cost me around 10k and got money to spare, i would still get it.

for now it killed my GAS on distortions.. 

[arkeetar]

Yup, but not more than 10k, kung meron yes, pero assess ko rin kung babagay yung pedal na yun sa ibang gear ko, hindi lang kana ng kana tapos benta, sabay sasabihin panget yung pedal, or kung anu man. Or parang dating na kabisadong kabisado na yung pedal, iniisip ko nga, minsan sa tagal na ng pedals s'kin meron pa rin akong nadidiscover na bago everytime na ginagamit ko, hehe

[IncX]

Why the assumption that tone is all about price? That's a very bad way to think about tone. When evaluating gear, you evaluate it for what it is and not through its price tag.

because it really is about the price in the sense that MOST (depending on your taste) good drive pedals are above 4K pesos.

but if you set the ceiling at say 15K, then yes, the law of diminishing returns kick in and chances are, you would prefer your 15K drive pedal over that 30K super pedal.

some people though, are very happy with their Boss DS1 ... as long as its driving a JCM 800 or something, hehe... ganun pa rin.

[arkeetar]

^ Ang galing! Hehe

[dirk]

Yup, but not more than 10k, kung meron yes, pero assess ko rin kung babagay yung pedal na yun sa ibang gear ko, hindi lang kana ng kana tapos benta, sabay sasabihin panget yung pedal, or kung anu man. Or parang dating na kabisadong kabisado na yung pedal, iniisip ko nga, minsan sa tagal na ng pedals s'kin meron pa rin akong nadidiscover na bago everytime na ginagamit ko, hehe

tama ka dyan, pero hirap din kasi magbase lang sa youtube lalo na pag di available locally

[rennaov]

no.  i wont until my skills would justify it.  otherwise id only end up believing the pedal lacks something when in reality its my playing thats lacking.   .  besides, there's greater satisfaction in getting the most w/ what you have.

[dirk]

because it really is about the price in the sense that MOST (depending on your taste) good drive pedals are above 4K pesos.

but if you set the ceiling at say 15K, then yes, the law of diminishing returns kick in and chances are, you would prefer your 15K drive pedal over that 30K super pedal.

some people though, are very happy with their Boss DS1 ... as long as its driving a JCM 800 or something, hehe... ganun pa rin.

natawa ako dun tama nga naman
its either invest in a good pedal or a good amp.
pero i think mas costly magivest sa good amp kesa sa good pedal

[brown]

already did....many times....and still...

[brown]

already did....many times....and still...

[arkeetar]

tama ka dyan, pero hirap din kasi magbase lang sa youtube lalo na pag di available locally

yung lang pag hindi available hehe
pero marami talagang factor, pwedeng hindi lang talaga bagay yung pedal sa setup, pero hindi ibig sabihin na hindi ok yung pedal

[firemodel55]

I just want to hear your opinion and reasoning before I post mine.

Fire away!  

Why should I spend on something less than P4k when my experience is that a majority of good sounding pedals worth keeping are at least 3x that price?

[mikko21ganja]

More than 4k? Why not, if it would satisfy the sound you're looking for, go for it. Rather than buy a cheapo OD/Dist pedal just because "basta meron okay na"



THIS.

Why should I spend on something less than P4k when my experience is that a majority of good sounding pedals worth keeping are at least 3x that price?

[jellogz]

Dim NewPedal As New Pedal
Dim TriedPedal As TriedPedals
Dim Me as Person

Me.Budget = 4000.00

For Each Pedal in TriedPedal.Pedal

AttemptBuy:
   If NewPedal.Type = Pedal.Type Then

      If NewPedal.Quality >= Pedal.Quality and Pedal.PreferredTone = Yes Then

         If NewPedal.Price > Me.Budget Then
            Me.SaveMoney(Me.Budget)
            Me.WorkHarder()
            NewPedal.PreferredTone = Yes
            TriedPedal.Add(NewPedal)            
            Goto AttemptBuy
         Else
            GoTo BuyPedal         
            Exit For
         End If         
      End If
   Else
      If NewPedal.Quality >= Me.Preference Then
         If NewPedal.Price > Me.Budget Then
            Me.SaveMoney(Me.Budget)
            Me.WorkHarder()
            NewPedal.PreferredTone = Yes
            TriedPedal.Add(NewPedal)            
            Goto AttemptBuy
         Else
            GoTo BuyPedal         
            Exit For
         End If
      Else
         Console.Write "Eww"
         NewPedal.PreferredTone = No
         Goto AddToExperience
      End If
      
   End If

Next

BuyPedal:
Gears.Add(NewPedal)      

AddToExperience:
TriedPedal.Add(NewPedal)


Oh my god I'm so bored...












Pa-debug na lang

[guitbox]

Yes bec. I couldn't buy the amp that i wanted.

[teleclem]

no.  i wont until my skills would justify it.  otherwise id only end up believing the pedal lacks something when in reality its my playing thats lacking.   .  besides, there's greater satisfaction in getting the most w/ what you have.

I still say.. Get the best that you can spare the money for/afford. No one needs to "deserve" anything to buy anything. In the end, you'd only be shortchanging yourself.

[IncX]

I still say.. Get the best that you can spare the money for/afford. No one needs to "deserve" anything to buy anything. In the end, you'd only be shortchanging yourself.

+1 to this

money buys gear. skill buys self satisfaction. 

edit: do not CONFUSE the two

[pitongjerome]

id get the modded joyos ahhaha

[prince22]

Yes, because the reason most of us use dirt pedals is because we can't buy high end amps so >4k as an alternative to >200k or more for amps you can't afford is more than  worth it.