Author Topic: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state? (Read 106097 times)

dtmateo · « **Reply #350 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:15:08 PM »

Quote from: Bolt Thrower on October 04, 2013, 03:10:59 PM

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Halatang di mo alam pinagsasabi mo. Ang dami dami tube amps na makukuha mo sweet spot kahit nasa 3 lang volume. Kahit condo levels, makukuha mo sweet spot ng tube amp.

Audible ka nga 2kms away. Tunog utot ka naman tapos suffering ang headroom mo dahil sa wattage at cab choice mo. Wala pa rin.

Can you give an example of a tube amp with a sweet spot at 3?

aHeartThatNeverFade · « **Reply #351 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:16:37 PM »

Quote from: Bolt Thrower on October 04, 2013, 03:10:59 PM

Audible ka nga 2kms away. Tunog utot ka naman tapos suffering ang headroom mo dahil sa wattage at cab choice mo. Wala pa rin.

Hahaha. I tried it already. Marshall MG 1x12. Di na need an 2km para sabihin mong crappy headroom ng amp. Hahaha. Sa plaza pa lang namin, olats na. Or baka tenga ko lang problem. Sorry po.

maxi_musikero · « **Reply #352 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:17:47 PM »

we get it. if you are a guitarist in your mid-30s and you don't own a tube amp, that's totally fine. just don't go all defensive and start dissing those who own one just to make you feel better about it.

rowley75 · « **Reply #353 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:19:03 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVGfFyAyCpw

this will sound better on a tube amp.

vhunter · « **Reply #354 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:19:48 PM »

There's a video, 25watter small venue a lot of fun!

Alex gig Tom is 10pm craft!!!

rowley75 · « **Reply #355 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:20:18 PM »

Quote from: maxi_musikero on October 04, 2013, 03:17:47 PM

we get it. if you are a guitarist in your mid-30s and you don't own a tube amp, that's totally fine. just don't go all defensive and start dissing those who own one just to make you feel better about it.

BOOM!!!!

nuff said.

fretzburner · « **Reply #356 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:20:36 PM »

Quote from: firemodel55 on October 04, 2013, 03:11:13 PM

I don't do internet. I believe thats not the correct way to evaluate guitar amps.

+1 Don't break the connection :Guitarist/Guitar/Cable/Tube amp/Cable/Cabinet/back to Guitarist and move some arm hairs

Bolt Thrower · « **Reply #357 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:26:37 PM »

Quote from: dtmateo on October 04, 2013, 03:15:08 PM

Can you give an example of a tube amp with a sweet spot at 3?

EVH 5150 III Mini
Blackstar Series One 200
Laney Ironheart
Marshall JVM410
Peavey JSX
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster
5150 Combo

Madami. Gumamit ka pa attenuator to crank it mas marami ka pa magagawa sa sweet spot. Not everything has to be loud to get the sweet spot. Hindi naman lahat ng tube amp master volume lang.

dtmateo · « **Reply #358 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:27:45 PM »

Quote from: rowley75 on October 04, 2013, 03:19:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVGfFyAyCpw

this will sound better on a tube amp.

It would. It's just a [gooey brown stuff] 8W 1x8 Dean Markley combo LOL! But it won't save the crappy playing. Not worth it.

Bolt Thrower · « **Reply #359 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:29:46 PM »

Quote from: rowley75 on October 04, 2013, 03:19:03 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVGfFyAyCpw

this will sound better on a tube amp.

Wow. VINTAGE!!!

VINTAGE KEYBOARD!!!

dtmateo · « **Reply #360 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:31:06 PM »

Quote from: Bolt Thrower on October 04, 2013, 03:26:37 PM

EVH 5150 III Mini
Blackstar Series One 200
Laney Ironheart
Marshall JVM410
Peavey JSX
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster
5150 Combo

Madami. Gumamit ka pa attenuator to crank it mas marami ka pa magagawa sa sweet spot. Not everything has to be loud to get the sweet spot. Hindi naman lahat ng tube amp master volume lang.

Dude, what you are cranking up is the preamp gain NOT the power amp gain. In that case it's neck to neck with a SS amp. You are better off using a multieffects with real tube into a SS than lugging around a back breaking tube amp head and cab.

joel_marcelo · « **Reply #361 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:33:14 PM »

flamebaiter lang yan. Wag nyo na pansinin. Wala lang tube amp yan. Tayo meron! Wahahaha

dtmateo · « **Reply #362 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:33:23 PM »

Quote from: Bolt Thrower on October 04, 2013, 03:29:46 PM

Wow. VINTAGE!!!

VINTAGE KEYBOARD!!!

I have other obsessions :-p

I spent $300+ on that keyboard. It's something that I use everyday to feed my family and it will outlast any of us.

robertshanepascual · « **Reply #363 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:34:03 PM »

Quote from: joel_marcelo on October 04, 2013, 03:33:14 PM

flamebaiter lang yan. Wag nyo na pansinin. Wala lang tube amp yan. Tayo meron! Wahahaha

AMMK Boys, Attack! Nasan na si pinunong Pete?

aHeartThatNeverFade · « **Reply #364 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:34:34 PM »

Quote from: joel_marcelo on October 04, 2013, 03:33:14 PM

flamebaiter lang yan. Wag nyo na pansinin. Wala lang tube amp yan. Tayo meron! Wahahaha

Papa joel, wala din ako tube. Wahahaha

ryechua · « **Reply #365 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:38:06 PM »

this thread is getting way off topic and entertaining at the same time

dtmateo · « **Reply #366 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:38:29 PM »

Haha!!! In photography, this thread is like those who insist that it's full frame camera or nothing. Reality is that my iPhone takes better photos.

analog.matt · « **Reply #367 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:38:43 PM »

my proreverb sounds sweet even at 3...

aHeartThatNeverFade · « **Reply #368 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:41:08 PM »

Quote from: dtmateo on October 04, 2013, 03:33:23 PM

I have other obsessions :-p

I spent $300+ on that keyboard. It's something that I use everyday to feed my family and it will outlast any of us.

Hi sir. I respect you being the bread winner of your family. I'm also like you. The only difference is I'm using my profession as a nurse and not a musician. I'm feeding my family, my housemaids, gardener, pets, goat, derby cocks (yeah. Haha), bills, etc. Maybe I can't say na you can outlast any of us kasi pare-pareho lang tayong nagwowork and naghahanap ng magandang gamit.

dtmateo · « **Reply #369 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:41:09 PM »

Quote from: analog.matt on October 04, 2013, 03:38:43 PM

my proreverb sounds sweet even at 3...

My Behringer GDI21 sounds sweet at any volume

mikebled · « **Reply #370 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:42:01 PM »

Quote from: joel_marcelo on October 04, 2013, 03:33:14 PM

flamebaiter lang yan. Wag nyo na pansinin. Wala lang tube amp yan. Tayo meron! Wahahaha

Ako din paps. Wala akong tube amp.hehe Pero nakagamit at nakadinig na ako ng madami-dami. (para di OT)

Bolt Thrower · « **Reply #371 on:** October 04, 2013, 03:45:14 PM »

Quote from: dtmateo on October 04, 2013, 03:31:06 PM

Dude, what you are cranking up is the preamp gain NOT the power amp gain. In that case it's neck to neck with a SS amp. You are better off using a multieffects with real tube into a SS than lugging around a back breaking tube amp head and cab.

Kala mo lang yun. Medyo di accurate pagkakaintindi mo sa silbi ng pre amp tubes at power amp tubes. Not every tube amp works that way. With a Blackstar and an Ironheart, for example, puwede ka na dumating sa sweet spot ng sane volume. Even with a JSX and a JVM. Kahit SLO100 kahit anong volume niya maganda tunog.

Ang Peavey XXXII like any amp that has power amp tube swapping capability, palitan mo ng 6L6 ang tubes, iba ang character ng tunog at distortion at any volume. Palitan mo siya EL34, iba din tunog niya at any volume. Palitan mo KT88 mas lalong magiiba tunog at any volume. The sweet breaking, clipping you hear from them is an interaction of pre amp and power amp tubes and not as singular stages like you say.

Masyado malakas para sa iyo 4 na power amp tubes? Bawasan mo. Alisin mo 2. Yung 120 watts mo, magiging 60. Puwede ka na mag clip at harmonic distortion ng mas maaga o mas mahina.

Kahit nga mga bagong Marshall DSL kaya sweetspot kahit nasa bahay ka lang ng hindi umaalog bintana mo.

joel_marcelo · « **Reply #372 on:** October 04, 2013, 04:08:09 PM »

Quote from: dtmateo on October 04, 2013, 03:33:23 PM

I have other obsessions :-p

I spent $300+ on that keyboard. It's something that I use everyday to feed my family and it will outlast any of us.

300$ x 40= 12000 pesos. Bili ka na kasi ng tube amp kahit cub10 lang. Lol. Actually ALL ss amps are marketed to sound like a tube amp but all miserably fail. So, it goes to show that everyone (except you) agree that tube amp is the [gooey brown stuff]. I know deep inside you would love to have a tube amp because it sounds way better. You just wanna be a badass. It's very clear that you don't know what you're talking about. Yadah yadah yadah. Pffft.

freemansj · « **Reply #373 on:** October 04, 2013, 04:10:35 PM »

Hindi ako marunong maggitara. Pero may tube amp ako. Sulit ba? Oo naman! AMMK eh!!!

robertshanepascual · « **Reply #374 on:** October 04, 2013, 04:12:30 PM »

Quote from: freemansj on October 04, 2013, 04:10:35 PM

Hindi ako marunong maggitara. Pero may tube amp ako. Sulit ba? Oo naman! AMMK eh!!!

Papayag ako straight swap sa tube amp mo yung ss amp ko. Fair enough na yun, pero dapat talaga add cash ka pa.

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Author Topic: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state? (Read 106097 times)