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Offline randymarsh

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The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« on: February 20, 2015, 09:41:08 AM »
Sino sa inyo naka-experience na mag-upgrade ng parts ng gitara nyo na imbes gumanda ang tunog eh lalo pumangit?

Dimarzio Tonezone: Gawd I hate this pickup. Naka-tatlong attempts na ata akong mag-upgrade sa Tonezone pero hindi ko masikmura yung nasal, hi-mid honky tone.

Callaham Vintage Strat Tremolo: Nagpasalin salin na itong tremolo na to sa tatlo kong American Stratocaster pero hindi parin ako masanay sa tunog kahit anong pickup combinations. Ice picky ang tunog lalo na sa Fender amps.

Tone Pros ABR-1 : Sabi nga "If it's not broke, do not fix it". Recently nag purchase ako aluminum stoptail at locking ABR-1 for my LP Trad. After install nagtunog bubuyog yung gitara. I had the ABR-1 removed and kept the aluminum stoptail. I'm still considering kung ibabalik ko yung original na stop tail, honeymoon period muna. Nabawasan kasi yung bass nung LP ko with the new stoptail. 

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2015, 09:57:34 AM »
Sino sa inyo naka-experience na mag-upgrade ng parts ng gitara nyo na imbes gumanda ang tunog eh lalo pumangit?

Dimarzio Tonezone: Gawd I hate this pickup. Naka-tatlong attempts na ata akong mag-upgrade sa Tonezone pero hindi ko masikmura yung nasal, hi-mid honky tone.

Callaham Vintage Strat Tremolo: Nagpasalin salin na itong tremolo na to sa tatlo kong American Stratocaster pero hindi parin ako masanay sa tunog kahit anong pickup combinations. Ice picky ang tunog lalo na sa Fender amps.

Tone Pros ABR-1 : Sabi nga "If it's not broke, do not fix it". Recently nag purchase ako aluminum stoptail at locking ABR-1 for my LP Trad. After install nagtunog bubuyog yung gitara. I had the ABR-1 removed and kept the aluminum stoptail. I'm still considering kung ibabalik ko yung original na stop tail, honeymoon period muna. Nabawasan kasi yung bass nung LP ko with the new stoptail. 

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tlgang ganun boss. mix ang match ang mga equipments.  :) hindi ka nag historic na ABR-1?
« Last Edit: February 20, 2015, 11:12:37 AM by jun_gats »

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2015, 11:00:40 AM »
tlgang ganun boss. mix ang match tlga ang mga equipments.  :) hindi kanag historic na ABR-1?

hesitant na ako mag-upgrade ngayon lalo na ang mahal ng premium parts. ipunin nalang pambili ng gitara.  :-D
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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 11:04:59 AM »


ayun, same story sa sayang thread.


Sold a 62RI MIJ Fender Strat to get a guitar with a floyd rose... a fernando jackson copy :( #LifeBeforePhilmusic
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 11:20:58 AM »

ayun, same story sa sayang thread.


Sold a 62RI MIJ Fender Strat to get a guitar with a floyd rose... a fernando jackson copy :( #LifeBeforePhilmusic

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 12:12:17 PM »
:eek: :eek: :eek:


pag naalala ko talaga yung time na yu, naiiyak talaga ako :( huhuhu
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2015, 12:15:47 PM »
I remember I sold my lovely 62ri to buy this gibson sg special, the gibson is crap.. too muddy for me  :eek: , also bought a gibson les paul studio faded with similar results, now i stay away from an all mahogany body with 490s. 

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2015, 12:21:40 PM »

ayun, same story sa sayang thread.


Sold a 62RI MIJ Fender Strat to get a guitar with a floyd rose... a fernando jackson copy :( #LifeBeforePhilmusic

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2015, 12:51:38 PM »
I had the Tone Zone 10 years (or so)  ago  and I didn't / never like it...it turned out na kelangan mo pala ng high-end Amp and whatnot to get the most out of it....That pick-up is overrated as hell. But I could be wrong though, I tried Basswood and Mahogany with it and Neither worked for me.


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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2015, 01:17:18 PM »
Tremol-no - Nifty device. I have it on 3 of my super strats. Ang problema ko nawawala na yung mga thumb screws. Bumili ako ng replacement thumbscrews pero nawala rin nung dinala ko sa jamming. Gusto ko i-masking tape para hindi na mahulog uli which defeats the purpose of this device.

nuno : n4 2.0 n4esa, n4vintage, n4 silver sparkle, n5, n6, n7, n8esa
etc : yjm, axis, jp6, jpxi, jp12, jp13, lp 58 vos, lp 57 ri, lp standard, lp trad, am strat, am tele deluxe, jem7v, uv777, rg prestige, j custom, deluxe reverb, vai legacy, jcm900, axefx

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2015, 01:54:03 PM »

ayun, same story sa sayang thread.


Sold a 62RI MIJ Fender Strat to get a guitar with a floyd rose... a fernandokson copy :(
#LifeBeforePhilmusic
/quote]   nakakaiyak naman. What a downgrade :(

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2015, 02:09:00 PM »

ayun, same story sa sayang thread.


Sold a 62RI MIJ Fender Strat to get a guitar with a floyd rose... a fernandokson copy :(
#LifeBeforePhilmusic
/quote]   nakakaiyak naman. What a downgrade :(


wala eh, i had no idea talaga. isa na ko dun sa mga "ay, ayoko niyang gitara na yan. walang kambyo. hindi pang lead."

iyak.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2015, 02:28:12 PM »
"ay, ayoko niyang gitara na yan. walang kambyo. hindi pang lead."

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etc : yjm, axis, jp6, jpxi, jp12, jp13, lp 58 vos, lp 57 ri, lp standard, lp trad, am strat, am tele deluxe, jem7v, uv777, rg prestige, j custom, deluxe reverb, vai legacy, jcm900, axefx

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2015, 04:38:02 PM »

wala eh, i had no idea talaga. isa na ko dun sa mga "ay, ayoko niyang gitara na yan. walang kambyo. hindi pang lead."

iyak.

buti napadpad ako dito sa philmusic way back 2010,dami ko natutunan.. kung hindi eh isa din ako sa mga "ay, ayoko niyang gitara na yan. walang kambyo. hindi pang lead."  hehe
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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2015, 07:31:12 PM »
buti napadpad ako dito sa philmusic way back 2010,dami ko natutunan.. kung hindi eh isa din ako sa mga "ay, ayoko niyang gitara na yan. walang kambyo. hindi pang lead."  hehe
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O nga eh put@nginang steve vai yan, (but loved his works). Hehe
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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2015, 09:30:44 PM »
hesitant na ako mag-upgrade ngayon lalo na ang mahal ng premium parts. ipunin nalang pambili ng gitara.  :-D
haha, eto rin yung pananaw ko. Bakit mag UPGRADE ng parts kung makakabili ka ng gitara. Lol


For me, it's guitar strings. Never bonded with newer coated strings, doesn't even sound as good as everyone claims.


I think Tone Zone works best with bright or high gain amps. I agree that it is nasally which is what it's supposed to do, rolled off tone knob tone.


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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2015, 10:05:30 PM »

ayun, same story sa sayang thread.


Sold a 62RI MIJ Fender Strat to get a guitar with a floyd rose... a fernando jackson copy :( #LifeBeforePhilmusic
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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2015, 03:23:38 AM »

ayun, same story sa sayang thread.


Sold a 62RI MIJ Fender Strat to get a guitar with a floyd rose... a fernando jackson copy :( #LifeBeforePhilmusic

talk about bad decisions bro.  :idea: but i understand you, i was once a hot blooded dude who thought everything with 24 frets
and a floyd rose was a LEAD guitar, shunned anything with fixed bridges and fewer than 22 frets!  :-D
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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2015, 07:23:11 AM »
talk about bad decisions bro.  :idea: but i understand you, i was once a hot blooded dude who thought everything with 24 frets
and a floyd rose was a LEAD guitar, shunned anything with fixed bridges and fewer than 22 frets!  :-D

I definitely can relate to this!

Tingin ko sa mga naka fixed bridge dati ay para sa mga matatatandang mabagal tumugtog hahahaha

Now times have changed, I'm in the process of disposing all of my Floyd Rose-equipped guitars because I cannot stand the hassle of its nature...dati sabi ko sa sarili ko ''Worth it naman, kasi mas versatile'' ...... haha ngayon suko na, kinakalawang na nga dahil nakakatamad mag-tono at magpalit ng strings  :-D

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2015, 08:19:54 AM »
Tremol-no - Nifty device. I have it on 3 of my super strats. Ang problema ko nawawala na yung mga thumb screws. Bumili ako ng replacement thumbscrews pero nawala rin nung dinala ko sa jamming. Gusto ko i-masking tape para hindi na mahulog uli which defeats the purpose of this device.

Bad trip nga whenever that happens but I think that should be classified as more of a "hassle" than a "downgrade".  :lol: Obvious ba na fan ako nyan?  :-D

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2015, 08:52:49 AM »
Bad trip nga whenever that happens but I think that should be classified as more of a "hassle" than a "downgrade".  :lol: Obvious ba na fan ako nyan?  :-D

Hehe. Agree.

This would be a nice upgrade  :-D



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etc : yjm, axis, jp6, jpxi, jp12, jp13, lp 58 vos, lp 57 ri, lp standard, lp trad, am strat, am tele deluxe, jem7v, uv777, rg prestige, j custom, deluxe reverb, vai legacy, jcm900, axefx

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2015, 09:51:34 AM »
Boutique ABR-1 with brass saddles for my dark sounding LP. Made it sound a tad more darker. Eventually put back the old ABR-1 and placed some stainless steel saddles to compensate for the dark sound.

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2015, 12:37:06 PM »
Ay p0ta! Di nga?! Nandun pa kaya yun sa pinagbentahan mo?

wala na :(( at kumita pa siya ng malaki huhuhuhuhuhu </3



talk about bad decisions bro.  :idea: but i understand you, i was once a hot blooded dude who thought everything with 24 frets
and a floyd rose was a LEAD guitar, shunned anything with fixed bridges and fewer than 22 frets!  :-D


YAN. Yan ako. pucha sobrang facepalm pagnaaalala ko sarili ko dati. putcha. pinagtatawanan ko pag naka STRAT yung tumutugtog. lagi kong sinasabi "gitarista sa kayle" :(


tapos ang irony dun... strat ang main guitar ko ngayon... </3 sighhhhh.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2015, 01:19:19 PM »
1.) sold a lefty '89 Fender Strat (all stock, cream) for a 2000s MIM Fender Strat Deluxe (matte black, upgraded pups)

2.) sold a 90's Gibson SG Special (upgraded electronics/pups, Les Paul's autograph, black) for a brand new Gibson Standard (Silverburst)

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Re: The UPGRADE that turned out to be a DOWNGRADE
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2015, 02:38:14 PM »
1.) sold a lefty '89 Fender Strat (all stock, cream) for a 2000s MIM Fender Strat Deluxe (matte black, upgraded pups)

2.) sold a 90's Gibson SG Special (upgraded electronics/pups, Les Paul's autograph, black) for a brand new Gibson Standard (Silverburst)


ikaw pala nakakuha nung G nung friend ko. hahahaha! the signature was in a gold pen on some black sticker correct?
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha