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Offline khelbanzon

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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #375 on: May 26, 2015, 05:49:07 PM »
Being a guitarist, mahirap para sa akin i-mix ng tama ang volume ng guitar.
Medyo biased kaya madalas malakas sa mix ang guitars, meron ba iba naka-experience nito? How do you overcome this situation?
Anyway, here's a recording I did way back 2012 for your comments/suggestions.

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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #376 on: May 26, 2015, 06:15:37 PM »
Being a guitarist, mahirap para sa akin i-mix ng tama ang volume ng guitar.
Medyo biased kaya madalas malakas sa mix ang guitars, meron ba iba naka-experience nito? How do you overcome this situation?
Anyway, here's a recording I did way back 2012 for your comments/suggestions.

The Glance

Salamat!

Oo nga malakas nga yung guitar  :lol:
para sakin ok na yung drums at bass, konting baba lang ng volume dun sa rhytm guitars. mas malakas sila taken as a whole compared dun sa lead guitar na ka-level lang halos yung bass.

mahirap kasi sa guitar focused music may ga mix na dapat talagang nangingibabaw ang guitar, tapos merong mga mix na dapat hindi.

Ang rule of thumb ko lalo na pag may hard panned distorted/overdriven rhythm guitar tracks ako, dapat naririnig ko yung ride cymbal pattern nang malinaw kahit open chord or palm muted djent thing pa yan.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #377 on: May 27, 2015, 10:52:47 AM »
Oo nga malakas nga yung guitar  :lol:
para sakin ok na yung drums at bass, konting baba lang ng volume dun sa rhytm guitars. mas malakas sila taken as a whole compared dun sa lead guitar na ka-level lang halos yung bass.

mahirap kasi sa guitar focused music may ga mix na dapat talagang nangingibabaw ang guitar, tapos merong mga mix na dapat hindi.

Ang rule of thumb ko lalo na pag may hard panned distorted/overdriven rhythm guitar tracks ako, dapat naririnig ko yung ride cymbal pattern nang malinaw kahit open chord or palm muted djent thing pa yan.

Salamat Sir! Magandang point of view yung pag-reference ng volume ng rhythm guitars tracks with the ride cymbal.
Subukan ko kapag nagka-time na magremix or record ng new material.
Gusto ko din sana explore and study yung paggamit ng volume automation envelope para mas ok ang transition ng parts.
This is a good thread. Marami ako natutunan.  :)

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« Reply #378 on: May 27, 2015, 10:58:39 AM »
Salamat Sir! Magandang point of view yung pag-reference ng volume ng rhythm guitars tracks with the ride cymbal.
Subukan ko kapag nagka-time na magremix or record ng new material.
Gusto ko din sana explore and study yung paggamit ng volume automation envelope para mas ok ang transition ng parts.
This is a good thread. Marami ako natutunan.  :)

Yes, along with reverb, ito yung isa sa mga underappreciated things sa home recording para sa mga beginners tulad natin  :) there are limits to what a compressor can do, and if it's done haphazardly, magppump yung track mo. dun papasok yung automation. it can make the difference between an obviously amateur track vs a polished one with the right amount of dynamics and levels  :)

tapospag na-master mo yan sisiw na yung pagtimpla ng crossfade sa DAW para swabe yung mga cuts at overdubs mo  :wink:
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #379 on: May 31, 2015, 09:14:46 PM »
Aside from sounding Metal/Rock - Here's a "POP" track I've been working on.

I followed your advise regarding the guitars and drums.

Anything else that I can improve?

https://soundcloud.com/zulueta89/pink-purple


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« Reply #380 on: June 01, 2015, 09:36:21 AM »
Aside from sounding Metal/Rock - Here's a "POP" track I've been working on.

I followed your advise regarding the guitars and drums.

Anything else that I can improve?

https://soundcloud.com/zulueta89/pink-purple

dapat mas malakas yung rhythm guitars dun sa lead synth. ang lead synth kasi forsome reason ang harsh ng dating pag sya yung malakas na element. siguro lakas mo lang yung guitars ng konti tapos bawasan mo ng low mids yung synth para mas  may bite. sakto na yung high end nya swabe na yun.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #381 on: June 01, 2015, 09:49:19 AM »
dapat mas malakas yung rhythm guitars dun sa lead synth. ang lead synth kasi forsome reason ang harsh ng dating pag sya yung malakas na element. siguro lakas mo lang yung guitars ng konti tapos bawasan mo ng low mids yung synth para mas  may bite. sakto na yung high end nya swabe na yun.

Di mo ata na adjust yung synth bago imix. Hehe.

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« Reply #382 on: June 01, 2015, 10:27:52 AM »
Di mo ata na adjust yung synth bago imix. Hehe.

yung synth talaga para sakin parang sibuyas yan pag bagong hiwa may zing kailangan lutuin para swak  :lol:
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« Reply #383 on: June 01, 2015, 10:46:10 AM »
aba madami na palang mga kwarto musikero ah haha..

anyways tanong ko lang.. madalas kasi pag sa kwarto ka nagrerecord usually iniiwasan mo masyado na marinig ka sa labas unless soundproof yung room mo.. so binababa nyo rin ba ng key yung mga nirerecord nyo?

ako kasi ganun ginagawa ko para di ko kailangang bumirit at baka marinig ako ng mga kapitbahay namin hahaha

ito share ko.. mga madaling araw na "emo mode" ako haha

Gamit ko dito acoustic guitar live recording using BOSS MicroBR tapos lipat sa Macbook Pro to mix it para sa 2nd voice, Slap Box (using my acoustic guitar din) plus mga guitar singit.

- Breathing (Lifehouse)
https://soundcloud.com/jomacorved/joms-breathing
Sensya na di ako talaga magaling mag beat box kaya mejo wala sa tempo hahaha

- I Wont Give Up (Jason Mraz)
https://soundcloud.com/jomacorved/joms-wont-give-up
Uber low key para iwas birit baka magising ang kapitbahay

- Never Say Never (The Fray)
https://soundcloud.com/jomacorved/joms-never-say-never-mp3
Flat lang.. no 2nd voice, guitar instrumental, beats (tinamad na akong lagyan) at mejo mahina pagkakarecord nito.
imma badass!! <funky guitar rift>

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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #384 on: June 01, 2015, 11:07:02 AM »
aba madami na palang mga kwarto musikero ah haha..

anyways tanong ko lang.. madalas kasi pag sa kwarto ka nagrerecord usually iniiwasan mo masyado na marinig ka sa labas unless soundproof yung room mo.. so binababa nyo rin ba ng key yung mga nirerecord nyo?

ako kasi ganun ginagawa ko para di ko kailangang bumirit at baka marinig ako ng mga kapitbahay namin hahaha

ito share ko.. mga madaling araw na "emo mode" ako haha

Gamit ko dito acoustic guitar live recording using BOSS MicroBR tapos lipat sa Macbook Pro to mix it para sa 2nd voice, Slap Box (using my acoustic guitar din) plus mga guitar singit.

- Breathing (Lifehouse)
https://soundcloud.com/jomacorved/joms-breathing
Sensya na di ako talaga magaling mag beat box kaya mejo wala sa tempo hahaha

- I Wont Give Up (Jason Mraz)
https://soundcloud.com/jomacorved/joms-wont-give-up
Uber low key para iwas birit baka magising ang kapitbahay

- Never Say Never (The Fray)
https://soundcloud.com/jomacorved/joms-never-say-never-mp3
Flat lang.. no 2nd voice, guitar instrumental, beats (tinamad na akong lagyan) at mejo mahina pagkakarecord nito.

kung nakalaptop ka, sa kotse na patay ang makina!  :lol:

ginawa ko yun sa track nung kabanda ko, may kanta sya tapos nirecord namin sa parking lot sa gitna ng school  sa loob ng kotse na patay ang makina tapos tapat na tanghali. after every take nagbubukas kami ng pinto ang init kasi  :lol:

ayos din kasi gusto nya sa upper octave (na obviously hindi nya abot) kumanta. feeling ko ok naman yung soundproofing ng kotse kasi hindi kamipinalayas nung guard  :lol:

pero solb yun, tunog vocal booth pa!  :wink:
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #385 on: June 01, 2015, 11:17:53 AM »
kung nakalaptop ka, sa kotse na patay ang makina!  :lol:

ginawa ko yun sa track nung kabanda ko, may kanta sya tapos nirecord namin sa parking lot sa gitna ng school  sa loob ng kotse na patay ang makina tapos tapat na tanghali. after every take nagbubukas kami ng pinto ang init kasi  :lol:

ayos din kasi gusto nya sa upper octave (na obviously hindi nya abot) kumanta. feeling ko ok naman yung soundproofing ng kotse kasi hindi kamipinalayas nung guard  :lol:

pero solb yun, tunog vocal booth pa!  :wink:

potek di ko ata kaya sa loob ng kotse magrecord na patay ang makina paps! masusuffocate ako dun hahaha!

the last time I remember na bumirit ako sa loob ng kotse eh nung nabuwisit ako sa GF ko.. talagang kulang nalang mabasag yung mga salamin sa lakas ng bulyaw ko sa kanya eh hahaha
imma badass!! <funky guitar rift>

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« Reply #386 on: June 01, 2015, 12:09:19 PM »
potek di ko ata kaya sa loob ng kotse magrecord na patay ang makina paps! masusuffocate ako dun hahaha!

the last time I remember na bumirit ako sa loob ng kotse eh nung nabuwisit ako sa GF ko.. talagang kulang nalang mabasag yung mga salamin sa lakas ng bulyaw ko sa kanya eh hahaha

nagrecord kami tig-isang verse lang tapos may breather in between takes para lumamig at magkaoxygen :lol:
tapos CDR King pa na mic yung gamit ko kaya medyo di masikip sa loob nung honda city  :lol:
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #387 on: June 01, 2015, 05:03:18 PM »
sakin fl studio ang DAW ko

maraming nagkalat na amp simulator dyan download download lang lalo na kapag free

mas gusto ko pa ang tunog ng VST kesa sa mga hardware effects
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« Reply #388 on: June 01, 2015, 05:10:40 PM »
sakin fl studio ang DAW ko

maraming nagkalat na amp simulator dyan download download lang lalo na kapag free

mas gusto ko pa ang tunog ng VST kesa sa mga hardware effects

panalo sakin yung Shred nung libre pa sya. may kasama pang acoustic guitar impulses yun!
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #389 on: June 01, 2015, 05:12:07 PM »
meron kaya dito ang ginamit na effects sa gig ay VST?
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« Reply #390 on: June 01, 2015, 06:13:34 PM »
meron kaya dito ang ginamit na effects sa gig ay VST?

I'd do it if I had a laptop and a footboard controller.

Diba gumagamit ng Guitar Rig si Trent Reznor? Gamit kaya nya live?
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #391 on: June 02, 2015, 08:11:52 AM »
mas madali kasing magexplore ng tunog sa VST since napakarami na libreng effects kesa sa hardware

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« Reply #392 on: June 02, 2015, 08:45:32 AM »
mas madali kasing magexplore ng tunog sa VST since napakarami na libreng effects kesa sa hardware

Yes, although sa mundo ng free VST kahit libre, frustrating naman maghanap ng VST na maganda ang tunog  :lol:
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #393 on: June 02, 2015, 10:14:02 AM »
meron kaya dito ang ginamit na effects sa gig ay VST?

Stephen Carpenter uses this set-up live. But recently relied on an Axe-Fx


I tried using an iPad with BIAS through my laptop with cubase for the reverbs and modulations to a DI to the FOH once and gave out some nice tones,though I wouldn't wager for it to be an all in one solution,there are still some lacking elements quality wise especially on the high gain territory
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« Reply #394 on: June 02, 2015, 10:35:58 AM »
Stephen Carpenter uses this set-up live. But recently relied on an Axe-Fx


I tried using an iPad with BIAS through my laptop with cubase for the reverbs and modulations to a DI to the FOH once and gave out some nice tones,though I wouldn't wager for it to be an all in one solution,there are still some lacking elements quality wise especially on the high gain territory

actually kahit sa low gain. nagssputter yung overdrive/distortion pag naffade na sa cleans.
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« Reply #395 on: June 02, 2015, 10:47:40 AM »
actually kahit sa low gain. nagssputter yung overdrive/distortion pag naffade na sa cleans.

Well low gain wise hindi talga ako aasa sa VST, ang daming artifacts ang hindi kaya i-process nang mabuti like picking nuances.
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« Reply #396 on: June 02, 2015, 06:58:55 PM »
Pero at the end of the day yung listener. Ma differentiate kaya nila ang vst vs real deal.

Na try nyu napala na yung  distortion or overdive pedal plus impulse response ng guitar cab

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« Reply #397 on: June 02, 2015, 07:10:56 PM »
Pero at the end of the day yung listener. Ma differentiate kaya nila ang vst vs real deal.

Na try nyu napala na yung  distortion or overdive pedal plus impulse response ng guitar cab

Hindi siguro, ang gaganda na ng VST ngayon (considering Guitar Rig and Amplitube are also VST plugins). Pero pag yung mga mid 90s na distortion tones sa pop music, alam mo kung ano yung ga dinaan sa digital effects  :lol:

not exactly impulse response, pero may dinaan ako na Boston DS-100 sa Amplitube, check mo sa soundcloud ko  :)
although na try ko na yan, pangit ang tunog. sobrang tinis na distorted signal na muddy. kailangan talaga amp sim.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #398 on: June 02, 2015, 07:22:26 PM »
Hindi siguro, ang gaganda na ng VST ngayon (considering Guitar Rig and Amplitube are also VST plugins). Pero pag yung mga mid 90s na distortion tones sa pop music, alam mo kung ano yung ga dinaan sa digital effects 

not exactly impulse response, pero may dinaan ako na Boston DS-100 sa Amplitube, check mo sa soundcloud ko  :)
although na try ko na yan, pangit ang tunog. sobrang tinis na distorted signal na muddy. kailangan talaga amp sim.
Agree andaming improvement sa larangan ng vst

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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #399 on: June 03, 2015, 08:46:25 AM »
Na try nyu napala na yung  distortion or overdive pedal plus impulse response ng guitar cab

pangit ng tunog nyan kapag walang amp simulator