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Offline aden

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proper panning
« on: January 26, 2007, 10:39:21 PM »
is there such thing as proper panning or instrument panning theory?? i mean do the bass have to sit on  the right or center and the drums on the center and stuffs like that?and how do you pan the drums and the cymbals on a drum kit?

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Re: proper panning
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2007, 01:37:09 AM »
No set rule.  But for purposes of mono compatibility, the bass guitar normally sits in the middle, the kick in there as well, the other elements, left and right.  Vocals, center; guitars, hard left and right.  It has become the practice, and normally done from the point of view of the drummer or viewer (listener?).
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2007, 03:02:02 AM »
I like the Black Crowes' work on panning the guitar tracks' reverberations from left to right.  Cool lala!

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Re: proper panning
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2007, 11:31:16 AM »
No set rule.  But for purposes of mono compatibility, the bass guitar normally sits in the middle, the kick in there as well, the other elements, left and right.  Vocals, center; guitars, hard left and right.  It has become the practice, and normally done from the point of view of the drummer or viewer (listener?).

thanks sir.

how do i set up volume levels for each instruments?
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2007, 10:02:57 AM »
how do i set up volume levels for each instruments?

During tracking palang you need to watch the volume of each volume na. All waves recorded should be uniform so you wont gonna have a hard time mixing.

Volume settings for each instrument during mixing naman ay depende na sa tenga mo on how are you gonna balance everything.
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2007, 05:52:47 AM »
No set rule.  But for purposes of mono compatibility, the bass guitar normally sits in the middle, the kick in there as well, the other elements, left and right.  Vocals, center; guitars, hard left and right.  It has become the practice, and normally done from the point of view of the drummer or viewer (listener?).

thanks sir.

how do i set up volume levels for each instruments?
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2007, 10:41:17 AM »
No set rule.  But for purposes of mono compatibility, the bass guitar normally sits in the middle, the kick in there as well, the other elements, left and right.  Vocals, center; guitars, hard left and right.  It has become the practice, and normally done from the point of view of the drummer or viewer (listener?).

thanks sir.

how do i set up volume levels for each instruments?
use your ears.

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Re: proper panning
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2007, 09:03:25 PM »
thanks guys...one more question...

pag nag re-red ba ung volume indicator nung track kailangan ba ibaba ung volume nung track na un?
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2007, 11:09:23 PM »
pag nag re-red ba ung volume indicator nung track kailangan ba ibaba ung volume nung track na un?

Definitely.

Digital distortion is something you would not want to hear. As much as possible, stay away from being in the red. Try to recognize digital distortion, which sounds similar to static, crackles, or a harsh random ticks. If I may add to the previous advice given, use your ears - not your eyes - when mixing. You don't listen with your eyes anyway, unless you're deaf.
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2007, 02:26:12 AM »
depending on your sequencer of choice, there is usually a "Hold Peaks Forever" feature in the mixer window which detects the peak of the track during the course of the song. Your average meter should hover no closer than -10 to -15db of its peak (ideally at 0db) to give yourself and the mastering engineer ample room to normalize levels during final mixing and mastering.

as far as panning goes for mixing goes, a good rule of thumb is to arrange your pans like you would a band on stage.
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2007, 10:23:51 AM »
thanks kit and abyss...

ang hirap pla nito...and to think that im still just working with soft synths, haayyy...what more if kailangan na ng vocals and live instruments?....

para akong nasa snake road, long way to go pa...
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2007, 10:39:20 AM »
thats the good thing about pro audio and recording, there is always something new to learn. you had better ask Bossing KitC more about synths..he is quite the knowledgeable chap:) you'd learn a ton.
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2007, 10:49:06 AM »
Soft synths are the wave of the future it seems, but I like hardware better.  :-D

Don't stop learning in this craft. The thing is, and we hear this all too often, learn the rules. That way, it becomes much easier to break them when you want to do something new. Like that stereo miking technique I've been playing around with using PZM's... eh Baldo?  :wink:  :-D
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Re: proper panning
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2007, 03:56:16 PM »
pasingit, hehe. about sa panning naman, i'm having problems when i play the track in mono, especially sa cymbals, parang lumalabo at humihina sila. eto siguro yung phase cancellation na tinatawag kung di ako nagkakamali..problem is i don't know how to fix this. patulong naman..thanks :)

@abyss: i'm still dying to hear the kick samples you were talking about :) can you send it through email nalang? thanks pre.