Help regarding modes..

[zmazz]

this is really getting me confused.. lets say i got a progression in key of C that goes like Em-C-Am-F and i want to use the modes in Key of C. can i use the E phrygian mode in from Em-C, then Ionian mode from C-Am then lastly aelion mode from Am-F? I really need some enlightenment regarding this stuff.. HELP!

[toybitz]

have you tried?

[zmazz]

Nope not really, cuz thats just a sample progression. all i wanted to know is if thats the right way of incorporating modes in a given progression..

[toybitz]

^ well, there's no really right way.  if you wanna conjure up the modes its ok.  if not, its still ok.

you're still using the same notes within the key of C anyways, only you're starting with a different root evertime you're referring to the modes.

I like your idea.  Very melodic.

[Erdy]

Nope not really, cuz thats just a sample progression. all i wanted to know is if thats the right way of incorporating modes in a given progression..

Modes are actually the inversion of notes of the major scale.

Try this C Major Scale:

Notes:      C          D          E          F         G        A          B
Degree:    I           II         III        IV        V        VI        VII
Chords:    C          Dm       Em        F         G       Am        Bdim

Begin with the first degree chord (C), then start playing the notes of the C Major scale starting on the 1st degree (C) one octave up then down, then shift to the 2nd degree chord (Dm), then play the notes of the C Major Scale beginning on the second degree (D) up one octave then down, then shift again on the 3rd degree chord (Em) beginning on the 3rd degree note (E) play one octave up and down. Do the same process on the rest of the chords. You can hear how modes of the major scale works on a particular chord.

So if your progression starts with the Em chord, you can start your solo in the 3rd degree note (E) of the C major scale.

  Cheers!

[zmazz]

Nope not really, cuz thats just a sample progression. all i wanted to know is if thats the right way of incorporating modes in a given progression..

Modes are actually the inversion of notes of the major scale.

Try this C Major Scale:

Notes:      C          D          E          F         G        A          B
Degree:    I           II         III        IV        V        VI        VII
Chords:    C          Dm       Em        F         G       Am        Bm7

Begin with the first degree chord (C), then start playing the notes of the C Major scale starting on the 1st degree (C) one octave up then down, then shift to the 2nd degree chord (Dm), then play the notes of the C Major Scale beginning on the second degree (D) up one octave then down, then shift again on the 3rd degree chord (Em) beginning on the 3rd degree note (E) play one octave up and down. Do the same process on the rest of the chords. You can hear how modes of the major scale works on a particular chord.

So if your progression starts with the Em chord, you can start your solo in the 3rd degree note (E) of the C major scale.

  Cheers!

is that the same as playing the E phrygian mode under Em chord?

[Perf_De_Castro]

Try this C Major Scale:

Notes:      C          D          E          F         G        A          B
Degree:    I           ii           iii        IV         V        vi         vii°
Chords:    C          Dm       Em        F         G       Am        Bdiminished

DIMINISHED dapat yung vii, hindi minor7th

[Erdy]

Try this C Major Scale:

Notes:      C          D          E          F         G        A          B
Degree:    I           ii           iii        IV         V        vi         vii°
Chords:    C          Dm       Em        F         G       Am        Bdiminished

 

DIMINISHED dapat yung vii, hindi minor7th

Thanks Perf for the correction.

[Erdy]

Nope not really, cuz thats just a sample progression. all i wanted to know is if thats the right way of incorporating modes in a given progression..

Modes are actually the inversion of notes of the major scale.

Try this C Major Scale:

Notes:      C          D          E          F         G        A          B
Degree:    I           II         III        IV        V        VI        VII
Chords:    C          Dm       Em        F         G       Am        Bm7

Begin with the first degree chord (C), then start playing the notes of the C Major scale starting on the 1st degree (C) one octave up then down, then shift to the 2nd degree chord (Dm), then play the notes of the C Major Scale beginning on the second degree (D) up one octave then down, then shift again on the 3rd degree chord (Em) beginning on the 3rd degree note (E) play one octave up and down. Do the same process on the rest of the chords. You can hear how modes of the major scale works on a particular chord.

So if your progression starts with the Em chord, you can start your solo in the 3rd degree note (E) of the C major scale.

  Cheers!

is that the same as playing the E phrygian mode under Em chord?

Yes!