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Offline mahavishnu

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #125 on: May 20, 2008, 06:22:15 PM »
wala akong alam s history ng ibanez ang sinasabi ko ung ngayon, pagnakahanap ka ng soilid top na ibanez sa mga music store sabihin mo sa kin. thanks

then you shouldve stressed out "ngayon" in your response, because your claim would suggest ibanez in general. yep, theres no solid top ibanez hollowbody in their current production.

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #126 on: May 20, 2008, 06:46:50 PM »
wow those new artcores do look good and sound good!

pwede!

grabe sa wood type...looks like museum pieces!

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hey ser abyss, info naman sa ibby benson mo, killer ah,

hows the sound with some effects and all in your rig?


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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #127 on: May 20, 2008, 07:20:42 PM »
Here are my Gibson guitars - Gibson L4 CES, Les Paul Triple humbucker and ES 335


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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #128 on: May 21, 2008, 09:22:26 PM »
mga sir! ano magandang 335 copy? i'm thinking about getting a semihollow, kaya lang i can't afford a gibson 335..
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Offline Dyulyus_Ceazar

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #129 on: May 21, 2008, 09:53:36 PM »
mga sir! ano magandang 335 copy? i'm thinking about getting a semihollow, kaya lang i can't afford a gibson 335..

For Me i would suggest You get a Epiphone DOT or Epiphone Sheraton Or Probably Find a used MIJ 335 Copy Greco, Burny, etc...  :-D
or if You want cheaper Get an ibby Artcore or Artstar :wink:
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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #130 on: May 21, 2008, 10:19:25 PM »
By The Way:
Here's My Sweetheart "Samantha": an Ibby AGS83 Artcore Antique Burst
I like This Guitar Nice Neck Feels Swak na swak :wink: also like the sounds even in their stock PUPS Nice Warm Round sound.. for Jazz, Rock, Blues... etc..
also like how it looks this Girl gets to much attention after every Gig.. :lol:
a real Beautiful Lady hehehe :lol: Tnx to Sir Rene (Musguit) the Jazz master whoa :-)



BUT IM REALLY PUTTING MY EYES ON THIS.. ONE OF MY DREAM GIRLS este GUITAR PALA  :-D
A Gretsch WHITE FALCON
  :wink: PRAYING THIS WILL BE MINE SOON!!! :-D


« Last Edit: May 21, 2008, 10:22:09 PM by Dyulyus_Ceazar »
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Offline fusionenigma

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #131 on: May 26, 2008, 08:38:29 AM »
mas responsive acoustically ang solid top kesa sa laminate. For me, it's like the difference of a transistor amp to tube amp. you have to hear it for yourself.
solid top ung akin, compare mo ung sound ng gitara ko sa mga ibanez demo:

... too bright.

here's me playing the same tune using an ibanez artcore af86 and a lowly fender princeton (SS) amplifier.

stella by starlight (split screen)

"One thing I like about jazz is that it emphasized doing things differently from what other people were doing." Herbie Hancock

william251082

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #132 on: May 29, 2008, 06:50:46 PM »
... too bright.

here's me playing the same tune using an ibanez artcore af86 and a lowly fender princeton (SS) amplifier.

stella by starlight (split screen)


ok un ah pede pla makuha ung video sa youtube. pano un? sa amplifier un, hindi naman jazz amp ang gamit ko eh, saka hindi nakadirekta sa computer ung sound ko mic lang ng webcam un,

isa pa personal taste naman ang tone eh, pede ko makuha ung ganung tunog sa amp pero ayoko i want it bright. Where you can hear all the nuance of the picking, that appeals more to me than a lot of boring jazz guitarists' tone who has a very bassy tone and bad rhythm. but that's just me...

everybody who even has a little bit of knowledge about archtops knows that d'angelico is not at all comparable to some ibanez jazz guitar model!
« Last Edit: May 30, 2008, 02:23:45 AM by william251082 »

Offline fusionenigma

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #133 on: May 31, 2008, 01:41:06 PM »
like you said, it's a matter of personal taste. although traditional jazz guitar favors a dull, warm tone. not bright.

mic and a (humming) solidstate amp gamit din ko.

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"One thing I like about jazz is that it emphasized doing things differently from what other people were doing." Herbie Hancock

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #134 on: May 31, 2008, 07:54:17 PM »
By The Way:
Here's My Sweetheart "Samantha": an Ibby AGS83 Artcore Antique Burst
I like This Guitar Nice Neck Feels Swak na swak :wink: also like the sounds even in their stock PUPS Nice Warm Round sound.. for Jazz, Rock, Blues... etc..
also like how it looks this Girl gets to much attention after every Gig.. :lol:
a real Beautiful Lady hehehe :lol: Tnx to Sir Rene (Musguit) the Jazz master whoa :-)



BUT IM REALLY PUTTING MY EYES ON THIS.. ONE OF MY DREAM GIRLS este GUITAR PALA  :-D
A Gretsch WHITE FALCON
  :wink: PRAYING THIS WILL BE MINE SOON!!! :-D




damn i miss that guitar,sold it to musguit for a pittance.haaay!
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Offline Dyulyus_Ceazar

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #135 on: June 01, 2008, 12:34:33 AM »
damn i miss that guitar,sold it to musguit for a pittance.haaay!
oh really?? thats Great.... This baby has Some history hehehe... 
Im taking Good Care of it... :wink:
LIFE IS GOOD...... BUT  ETERNAL LIFE IS BETTER.....  john 6:40, 12:25

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #136 on: June 01, 2008, 12:53:35 AM »
mas responsive acoustically ang solid top kesa sa laminate. For me, it's like the difference of a transistor amp to tube amp. you have to hear it for yourself.
solid top ung akin, compare mo ung sound ng gitara ko sa mga ibanez demo:

oo nga ganda ng tunog.acoustic na halos,gusto ko rin minsan bright tone eh like tone ni joe pass at jim hall kapag rhythm/chords ginagawa nila.

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« Reply #137 on: June 02, 2008, 01:50:50 AM »
oo nga ganda ng tunog.acoustic na halos,gusto ko rin minsan bright tone eh like tone ni joe pass at jim hall kapag rhythm/chords ginagawa nila.
Nice that you liked it, i'm going more for a George Benson or Johnny Smith tone (i have to have a better amp first).

As much as I worship Pat Metheny, I don't really like his tone on his archtop, i don't understand why he always turn the tone control off, i never do that, u loose a lot of sensitivity in dynamics (i thnik), i always do adjustment on the amp.

Tone is really a personal issue, what's more important is that YOU know what you want!

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #138 on: June 03, 2008, 09:21:47 AM »
everybody who even has a little bit of knowledge about archtops knows that d'angelico is not at all comparable to some ibanez jazz guitar model!

exactly... say a difference of around 3K USD lolz
Pre, pasubok naman ng d'angelico mo one of these days. kahit play lang ako ng G chord lolz :)
« Last Edit: June 03, 2008, 09:28:26 AM by sonnyrayvaughn »

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #139 on: June 04, 2008, 04:59:37 AM »
exactly... say a difference of around 3K USD lolz
Pre, pasubok naman ng d'angelico mo one of these days. kahit play lang ako ng G chord lolz :)
pre ang galing ni scott henderson! tuloy ba tyo kay pat martino? july pa naman eh! pag pumunta ka dito i de-demo ko ung buong sound set up ko sa heheehhehe

D-A-G-A ang pede mong tugtugin sa d'angelico heheheh! see u man!

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #140 on: June 04, 2008, 09:01:30 AM »
pasali po ng semi thinline ko



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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #141 on: June 05, 2008, 12:38:52 PM »
oo nga ganda ng tunog.acoustic na halos,gusto ko rin minsan bright tone eh like tone ni joe pass at jim hall kapag rhythm/chords ginagawa nila.

sir bluebossa, in all his recordings that i've heard, jim hall always sounded warm. which jim hall album did you have in mind?

william, to nail the early benson tone, i suggest you roll down he treble and boost the mids instead. not too much treble unless you want your guitar to sound like a tin can.
"One thing I like about jazz is that it emphasized doing things differently from what other people were doing." Herbie Hancock

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #142 on: June 16, 2008, 08:36:24 AM »
sir bluebossa, in all his recordings that i've heard, jim hall always sounded warm. which jim hall album did you have in mind?

william, to nail the early benson tone, i suggest you roll down he treble and boost the mids instead. not too much treble unless you want your guitar to sound like a tin can.
Pre napansin ko hindi naman 100% consistent ang tone ng mga gitarista eh, iba iba rin ng konti bawat concert, I even have a recording of wes with a bright tone (bright enough for jazz, if you know what I mean), meron pa ko dito old george benson playing a slightly distorted tone, listen to Johnny Smith mataba ung tone pero hindi muddy. Ayoko kasi talaga nung bassy at hindi mo na marinig ung dynamics eh.

Napansin ko din iba ang tone pag malakas ang amp with a band compared sa room lang. It's not as easy as only having one set-up to get the tone you want, especially if you play in different areas. Sa school may malaking fender tube amp at magaling na sound engineer kaya wla akong msyadong problema. Sa jam session sa bar, ung maliit na amp lang ang dala ko, di ako masyadong masya sa tone ko. Nung sa open stage once, walang magandang amp, I used bbpreamp as a boost, ok na ok hindi nag ffeedback ung jazz guitar.

Gusto ko rin naman ung mga bagong tone ni george benson eh like this:
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Pero like I said iba iba rin bawat concert.

This guitar sounds like tin can man! hahahahha:
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but of course I have nothing against Joe Pass, he's one of my greatest inspiration.
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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #143 on: June 16, 2008, 01:44:39 PM »
what guitar is joe diorio playing in this clip? i know pat is using a gibson es-175. they look the same except for the tailpiece. 

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #144 on: June 16, 2008, 03:16:35 PM »
what guitar is joe diorio playing in this clip? i know pat is using a gibson es-175. they look the same except for the tailpiece. 
pareho silang es 175

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #145 on: June 16, 2008, 05:18:47 PM »
tanong ko nga pala mga sir,pano ko ba maiiwasan ang feedback kahit walang compression pedal na gamit. ang lakas kasi feedback ng gitara ko eh :-(
1. tape sa sound hole
2. lobo sa loob ng body
3. turn down your volume, hindi naman kailangang malakasan sa jazz eh
4. lumayo ka sa amp
5. ung position mo sa stage ung neck dapat ang malapit sa speaker ng amp hindi ung body.
6. ilayo sa drummer and speaker ng bass amp ang amp mo

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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #146 on: June 16, 2008, 05:29:02 PM »
eto pinag-iipunan kong semi hollowbody, gusto ko kasi floating bridge maski semi hollow eh. siguro papalitan ko na lang ng gibson '58 pick up, hahahah parang ang dami kong pera ah!
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« Reply #147 on: June 16, 2008, 06:58:10 PM »
eto pa isang archtop tone na gustong gusto ko! check out his other stuff too!
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Re: The semi hollow/hollowbody/jazzbox thread
« Reply #148 on: June 16, 2008, 08:53:02 PM »

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« Reply #149 on: June 16, 2008, 11:13:47 PM »
nice ladies they got here :-o  http://www.eastmanguitars.com/models/uptown.html
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