Re: Analog 101

[gjuanengo]

Magkano EMGS around there? hahaha.

dual 81's?

[turiguiliano]

^sa susunod na pag nakaipon pa ng onti. tindi nung custom eh. hehe .

thanks for the offer but may padatin gna rin ako mga pedals this year.  

[Poundcake]

Magkano EMGS around there? hahaha.

dual 81's?

Musician's Friend prices, my friend

[gjuanengo]

really? I like.

Pwedeng magpabili? hahaha

[reps]

Question: Let's say i have three drive pedals. How do i arrange them? Highest to lowest gain or vice versa? Sorry, analog newbie here. Thanks!

[spankyrigor]

1. The chain, otherwise known as the way your pedals are arranged in your grid. As a rule of thumb, dynamics will come first (compressor), followed by a wah, then dirt, then an eq, followed by modulation then time based effects.

if i'm going into an amp's clean channel, i'd actually put my wah first in line, then the compressor. then dirt.. so far i've tried it with vox and morley wahs. sounds better to me because the comp/dirt pedals even out the volume spike.

to all noobs: like what gjuanengo said, don't be afraid to experiment. one man's "sounds like [gooey brown stuff]!" is another man's "sounds like heaven".

[gjuanengo]

Question: Let's say i have three drive pedals. How do i arrange them? Highest to lowest gain or vice versa? Sorry, analog newbie here. Thanks!

Depends on the sound.

I usually do least to most, if im cascading all three.

But thats way tooo noisy.

Experiment

[gjuanengo]

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This is a prime example of how a pedalboard setup never stays constant.

[soundslikebryan]

mga bossing, malapit na matapos ang pedalboard set-up ko, kaya lang me naisip akong kalokohan, hehe. I don't know kung meron pedal na ganito.

Bale multi fx sya, pero ang fx lang is delay, reverb, chorus, wah and volume. meron ba nito? salamas ng marami!!!

[gjuanengo]

mga bossing, malapit na matapos ang pedalboard set-up ko, kaya lang me naisip akong kalokohan, hehe. I don't know kung meron pedal na ganito.

Bale multi fx sya, pero ang fx lang is delay, reverb, chorus, wah and volume. meron ba nito? salamas ng marami!!!

EHX Memory Man. Delay/echo, chorus, trem. No wah and volume.

ANy multi with the drive module turned off.

[soundslikebryan]

mga bossing, malapit na matapos ang pedalboard set-up ko, kaya lang me naisip akong kalokohan, hehe. I don't know kung meron pedal na ganito.

Bale multi fx sya, pero ang fx lang is delay, reverb, chorus, wah and volume. meron ba nito? salamas ng marami!!!

EHX Memory Man. Delay/echo, chorus, trem. No wah and volume.

ANy multi with the drive module turned off.

ganun ba, hehe, stick to original plan na lang ako. thanks

[weeping_demon]

hmm, i read somewhere na pwede mag combine ng mt2 tsaka isang overdrive...
i have both and i tried it dati pero hindi ba masyadong madumi and sobra sa feedback pag ganun? or depende sa settings kasi i cant find the right mix for that combination eh hehe

[gjuanengo]

Heres what you do. Set the gain on the MT2 at the bare minimum, use the od at around 1'oclock gain. then adjust till you get the sound.

Remember, OD for gain, AMP/Pedal after for character.

[weeping_demon]

Heres what you do. Set the gain on the MT2 at the bare minimum, use the od at around 1'oclock gain. then adjust till you get the sound.

Remember, OD for gain, AMP/Pedal after for character.

ah i see hehe sige, try ko.

Thanks so much!

[weeping_demon]

wait pala, diba parang ang redundant na dist pedal + od pedal? hehe di ba mas magandang combination ang dist/od + chorus/delay? whats the purpose of combining an od pedal to the mt2 pala? (since maganda na naman ang tunog ng mt2 as is, well, depende sa sound na hanap mo hehe) and ano ikalalabasan na sound ng mt2+od? can i use the od to "boost" the mt2 for lead parts or should it be the other way around? sorry daming tanong hehehe

[gjuanengo]

You use the MT2 as character (the timbre) and the OD for the gain.

And two gain stages, cascaded correctly will give you a lot more depth compared to a single stage.

(ask rolexm, he uses this set-up)

Ibanez TS9->MXR Doubleshot Dist (Bottom Channel)->MXR DIme Dist.

All three are on at the same time.

[ayofish]

hmm, i read somewhere na pwede mag combine ng mt2 tsaka isang overdrive...
i have both and i tried it dati pero hindi ba masyadong madumi and sobra sa feedback pag ganun? or depende sa settings kasi i cant find the right mix for that combination eh hehe

ako naka ts na naka 9am gain tapos Jack Bauer Mt2 gain set to 2 oclock ... oks naman mas rinig mo notes eheeh crunchy sobra and halos ala naman feedback

[badongrodrigs]

taas!

[maxzboy]

Help pls . .

Apologies to Poundcake for starting a redundent thread! Sorry Sir!


I currently have a Boston Engineering Distortion, EQ and  Noisegate and a Century Compression sustainer pedal and a Behringer Multiefx pedal. (Chorus/Flanger/Tremolo/Delay/Phaser/Pitch Shifter)

I have them set up as follows Guitar-NoiseGate-EQ-Compression/Sustainer-Behringer MultiEfx-Distortion

(I read somwhere that generally you set up the pedals from cleanest to dirtiest sound)

and now for the questions:
( just inherited the gear so Im not really familiar w/ how thery work or should work)

Noise Gate:
How does or should the noisegate work? My noise gate almost doubles the hum when the distortion is on, and on some settings (I was just experimenting with it) kinda slows the reaction of the sound (like a delay, but only once). Im not sure if its broken or I just dont know how to set it up properly. How do I check?

Compression/Sustainer:
Same question, How does/should it work? I've tried experimenting with it and haven't really seen the actual "effect" it has on the sound, very minimal difference from clean tone. Almost unnoticed when the distortion is in effect.

Distortion:
I have no problem making this pedal work and tweaking it, the problem is the strong hum it generates. I tried yung batteries and a power supply, still the hum. I tested it alone Guitar-Pedal-Amp hum still . . Are you guys experiencing the same hum w/ your Boston Distortions?

The Behringer Multifx:
I got this covered as well, But I noticed when the delay is in effect from clean tone, it produces clear piano like sound for every note, but when distortion is added the repeats seem to break off as they progress, getting dirtier and dirtier as they fade out, Is this natural for delays? 

[ayofish]

that's odd. my boston pedals never gave off an intolerable hum  eehhehe ganda nga nung sound ng ingay nya eh parang may humihinga

[gjuanengo]

Okay, heres the deal bro.

Place the boston FIRST in your chain. Adjust it with the distortion and eq on to adjust the amount of reduction.

Follow it with the comp then disto then eq.

last is the multi.

[ayofish]

baka ung cables mo may problema sir?

[badongrodrigs]

never use the Noise Gate and the Compressor simultaneously.

[maxzboy]

This may sound stupid, but how do I adjust the settings on the Noise gate? What should I look for? Any settings you could recommend? i checked all the pedals, sa Boston Distortion lang tlga may hum.

as for my cables, I double checked them also, ok naman. I use Neutrik plugs and Nuvelle cables, ok naman sya. Actually the gear is silent until the Distortion gets turned on, sa ibang pedals ok naman.

Okay, heres the deal bro.

Place the boston FIRST in your chain. Adjust it with the distortion and eq on to adjust the amount of reduction.

Follow it with the comp then disto then eq.

last is the multi.

[badongrodrigs]

Actually the gear is silent until the Distortion gets turned on

thats called the distortion effect, what did you expect?