"IT SUCKS" vs. "I DON'T LIKE IT"

[skunkyfunk]

When is it right to say either?

[Poundcake]

It's highly subjective, man. As for me, I'll say that a piece of equipment sucks when, according to my ears, I don't find it useable and it cannot be used by other people to create decent sounds. I'll say that I don't like it if it generally sounds good but doesn't perfectly fit my requirements.

[Phil]

It's highly subjective, man. As for me, I'll say that a piece of equipment sucks when, according to my ears, I don't find it useable and it cannot be used by other people to create decent sounds. I'll say that I don't like it if it generally sounds good but doesn't perfectly fit my requirements.

korectamundo.

[CARABAO]

denio metal rocker = "IT SUCKS"
behringer ultra metal = "I DON'T LIKE IT"

[nathanmanansala]

It's highly subjective, man. As for me, I'll say that a piece of equipment sucks when, according to my ears, I don't find it useable and it cannot be used by other people to create decent sounds. I'll say that I don't like it if it generally sounds good but doesn't perfectly fit my requirements.

mehng, thats too complicated. its easier to say "it sucks because i dont like it."

[Perf_De_Castro]

Rather, "I don't like it because it sucks"

[ubersam]

a vacuum cleaner - "It sucks!"
brussel sprouts - "I don't like it."

[/joke]

[Phil]

a vacuum cleaner - "It sucks!"
brussel sprouts - "I don't like it."

[/joke]

Jenna Jameson =  she can really suck
   Gay Guys...... me don't likey

[farseer]

a vacuum cleaner - "It sucks!"
brussel sprouts - "I don't like it."

[/joke]

Jenna Jameson =  she can really suck
   Gay Guys...... me don't likey

ayus u made my day

[Lahed92801]

It sucks = most people say this pag ayaw yung tunog. Pero tone is very very subjective, for some: eric johnson's tone is reverb wash and larry carlton's is a wussy jazz rock tone while Steve vai's is oversaturated with gain. Pero if it really sounds like nothing but noise or doesn't even make a damn sound, it probably sucks. But still, it's very objective.

I don't like it = you can't find a use for it, or you just don't like how it sounds for you. It has its use, but none are with you

[titser_marco]

I can't really say what gear really sucks because I haven't really tried the gear that's supposed to be really good. But I do know when I like something or not.

[marzi]

Jenna Jameson =  she can really suck
Gay Guys...... me don't likey

 

[CARABAO]

a vacuum cleaner - "It sucks!"
brussel sprouts - "I don't like it."

[/joke]

Jenna Jameson =  she can really suck
   Gay Guys...... me don't likey

hahahahahaha!!! 

[jakobspiral]

This has been a big issue for me even since I was a kid.

I still hate the fact that humans would get offended by criticism. It's too tiring to actually have to find a polite way to voice my opinion. Usually I just keep my opinions to myself because I'm too lazy to have to add, "in my humble opinion", or "for me", or "i don't like", or any other phrase to my sentences just to be polite.

I mean, both "it sucks" and "i don't like it" mean exactly the same thing when understood in the context that it is a subjective opinion, relative to the speaker and can never be used objectively since opinions are relative and unmeasurable.

I hate it that most humans actually take an unmeasurable subjective opinion as something objective.

Why waste time having to add phrases like "in my humble opinion", or "for me", or "i don't like", or any other phrase when it's already a given that opinions are always subjective?

So if opinions are always subjective, why get angry when someone says, "you suck"?

Or, "digital sucks and amps are better"?

Or, "Christianity sucks"?

Or, etc.

[nuno]

there is a fine line between the two. if you are going to look at it in a general perspective, yes, they would mean the same.


although theyre both used to negate things, they do differ in the sense that:

a) When you say "I dont like it" it doesnt mean "it sucks".
e.g.  it (a peice of equipment) may have excellent qualities but it just doesnt seem to fit your taste.

b) "It sucks" means it doesnt do what its supposed to.

[ubersam]

...Why waste time having to add phrases like "in my humble opinion", or "for me", or "i don't like", or any other phrase when it's already a given that opinions are always subjective?

It is not alway easy to determine whether something communicated in writing is factual or just an opinion. The lack of audio visual cues (tone of voice, gestures, etc.) or familiarity with the intended audiences, makes it necessary for the writer to implement other methods of making their message clear. One of the ways a writer can avoid being misinterpreted is to indicate that an opinion is just that, an opinion.

So if opinions are always subjective, why get angry when someone says, "you suck"?

Such negative comments given to disparage or otherwise degrade another human being will no doubt be received with equal negativity, if not hostility. If someone put you down, would you give them a hug and thank them with sincere gratitude? Or would you feel more compelled to stand up for yourself?

[bluenote]

...Why waste time having to add phrases like "in my humble opinion", or "for me", or "i don't like", or any other phrase when it's already a given that opinions are always subjective?

It is not alway easy to determine whether something communicated in writing is factual or just an opinion. The lack of audio visual cues (tone of voice, gestures, etc.) or familiarity with the intended audiences, makes it necessary for the writer to implement other methods of making their message clear. One of the ways a writer can avoid being misinterpreted is to indicate that an opinion is just that, an opinion.  Tumpak!

So if opinions are always subjective, why get angry when someone says, "you suck"?

stupid question...

[BAMF]

I remember one time, a very gorgeous student approached me and asked "sir, is it possible to fail your subject ? ".

I said "I give you all the chances to pass my course, but it is still possible to fail if you truly, royally, SUCK.

She said "Sir....I suck"

WHOAh!

Good for you ! See you next sem !

Ay...OT pala hahaha.

[bluenote]

I remember one time, a very gorgeous student approached me and asked "sir, is it possible to fail your subject ? ".

I said "I give you all the chances to pass my course, but it is still possible to fail if you truly, royally, SUCK.

She said "Sir....I suck"

WHOAh!

Good for you ! See you next sem !

Ay...OT pala hahaha.

BUGOK! hahaha...

[blues2death]

a vacuum cleaner - "It sucks!"
brussel sprouts - "I don't like it."

[/joke]

Jenna Jameson =  she can really suck
   Gay Guys...... me don't likey

jenna actually likes to suck.....i would like it if she sucked me

[blues2death]

i think we all suck kasi we read this thread 

[jakobspiral]

Such negative comments given to disparage or otherwise degrade another human being will no doubt be received with equal negativity, if not hostility. If someone put you down, would you give them a hug and thank them with sincere gratitude? Or would you feel more compelled to stand up for yourself?

If someone put me down, I'd simply ask why.

If they can give a smart answer, that would actually benefit me by adding to my knowledge. I'd love to hear Shinji Tanaka tell me that my guitar tone sucks. Then if he's kind enough to tell me why, then I would learn something I could've never found out on my own. He has golden ears, you know.

If they can't give me a smart answer, then I would deem them stupid and therefore their opinions are unworthy of my ears and time.

Either way, I win. So why get angry?

stupid question...

Why?

[Poundcake]

Hey guys, please lessen the double-meaning "suck" talk. Let's keep it wholesome

[starfugger]

This has been a big issue for me even since I was a kid.

I still hate the fact that humans would get offended by criticism. It's too tiring to actually have to find a polite way to voice my opinion. Usually I just keep my opinions to myself because I'm too lazy to have to add, "in my humble opinion", or "for me", or "i don't like", or any other phrase to my sentences just to be polite.

I mean, both "it sucks" and "i don't like it" mean exactly the same thing when understood in the context that it is a subjective opinion, relative to the speaker and can never be used objectively since opinions are relative and unmeasurable.

I hate it that most humans actually take an unmeasurable subjective opinion as something objective.

Why waste time having to add phrases like "in my humble opinion", or "for me", or "i don't like", or any other phrase when it's already a given that opinions are always subjective?

So if opinions are always subjective, why get angry when someone says, "you suck"?

Or, "digital sucks and amps are better"?

Or, "Christianity sucks"?

Or, etc.

i dont think it's a waste of time to find better ways of stating one's opinion.  constructive criticism is most effective when communicated politely.  "it sucks" can probably be said among close friends without anyone taking offense because intentions and sincerity are well established (case to case basis pa rin, tread with care).  trust is key.  african americans address eachother using  the word "nigger" or "nigga"  and they do not take offense in that.  however, a caucasian will probably be summarily beaten to death doing the same thing.

we're not all close friends in a virtual community such as philmusic.  we don't know eachother's quirks, strengths, weaknesses etc. a mature individual with a well developed social and emotional intelligence  would probably not incite a lot of negative reactions from his/her statements.    

ubersam puts it quite nicely

[starfugger]

  jakobspiral, i don't think you'd hear mr. tanaka use the words "you suck" (that's just my opinion,  ).  he is one of the most corteous guys i know, and would probably bypass the whole "you suck" stage, ask you if you wanted him to help you find useful tones, and start twiddling with the POD or amp with your permission may libre pang smile