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Online bulog

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Kasi pag sa church namin, same peds naman gamit ko, madili akong makapag doubles. Ang upuan dun ay generic drum throne.

Pero d2 sa haus, gamit ko same peds hirap at ngawit yung paa ko mag doubles.  Monobloc na chair (yung me sandalan) yung gamit ko, na medyo mababa.

Malaking factor po ba yung upuan kung mababa sya, or mataas, or yung nakasayad yung hita mo sa chair.  Kasi sa drum throne yung buttocks mo lang talaga yung nakaupo.

Curious lang po ako kung san ang factor bakit ngawit at hirap akong mag doubles sa haus.

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yes it affects your palying, before i do believe that drum throne are just plain chairs, so why spend on it, but when i was studying double pedal thats the time i realized that yes a good drum throne will make your drumming much more comfortable, pls take note also that your foot technique also affects your playing...anyway enjoy that mapex pedal of yours..play and experiment on it brother... :wink:
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of course. you must be comfortable when playing in order for you to deliver those chops and kicks on time. :-)

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Yes sir may effect ung throne..may adjustment naman ung throne..kaya pde mo syang iadjust kung san ka komportable..pra ung paa mo hindi mahirapan sa kick..peace out!

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baka mababa masyado o mataas masyado :lol: adjust mo san ka comportable hehe


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baka mababa masyado o mataas masyado :lol: adjust mo san ka comportable hehe

bro di maadjust ni pareng bugoy yun coz he is using nga a monobloc chair on his home, sa church lang sya naka drum throne.. :wink:
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Salamat sa advice mga master.

Naku, mapapa-GAS na naman ako sa MAPEX drum throne ni Sir JP nito hehe.

Try ko humanap muna ng ibang mauupuan sa haus maliban sa monobloc chair.

Thanks po sa inyo

BTW po Sir JP, bulog po di bugoy hehe.

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try mo mag bike, diba pag mababa yung upuan mahirap? pag mataas madali? inaaply ko yun sa throne height..

hirap ng monobloc chair ah, hindi naman sa maarte ako o kung ano man...hindi ko maigalaw yung buong leg ko dun eh, diba palubog yun? kailangan ko palagi iusog yung mabigat kong pwet..  :-D

hanap ka lang ng throne na flat at adjustable yung height  :-)
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based on experience, best place to start would be having the throne and your legs parallel to the ground. after that, you can try raising it higher or lower to find the sweet spot for yourself. personally i sit just a bit above parallel, it gives me lower tom angles and i don't have to expend as much effort on double peds.
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uncomfortable talaga monoblock kahit hindi ka nagdrudrums. palalim kasi yung salumpwet nya (sumasalo sa pwet, di ko alam tawag dun, imbento lang yan)

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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2007, 08:09:22 PM »
 pwede mo din try yung monobloc na walang sandalan, kse flat yung surface nun :-), yung may sandalan kase parang palalim nga sa pwet, :-)
« Last Edit: September 14, 2007, 08:12:50 PM by alone_for_now »

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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2007, 11:29:16 PM »
Generic drumthrone lang in gamit ko pero mas maganda pa na yung makapal at heavy duty..mapex yung magandang drumthrone..yung generic po kasi habang tumatagal, sumasakit na po mga pisngi ng wetpaks ko ehh..tska winelding na lang kasi naputol na.. :cry:
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2007, 03:55:48 AM »
uncomfortable talaga monoblock kahit hindi ka nagdrudrums. palalim kasi yung salumpwet nya (sumasalo sa pwet, di ko alam tawag dun, imbento lang yan)

ayon! nadali mo kuya!  :lol:

AFAIK salumpuwit yun hehe!
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2007, 10:43:14 AM »
Yung monobloc na may sandalan, pababa yung gitna nya so naturally, mahi-hinder ang movement ng legs mo, if this is the case, sit at the edge of the chair. ganon ginagawa ko kung walang throne or yung monobloc na bilog na stool. I always try to find a monobloc stool. As Dave Weckl said in his back to basics video, your foot from the pedal should be in a comfortable distance, tapos your legs shouldn't be bending in which i think it is the case for monoblocs na may sandalan.
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2007, 10:52:24 AM »
Thanks sa lahat.

Tama nga po kayo, kasi medyo palugod nga yung monobloc na me sandalan.

kahapon nakahanap ako nung bilog lang sya and tama lang din po yung height nya sa set ko.  Di na ako nahirapan pumadyak.

Next project ko na lang yung drum throne, medyo wa na ako budget hehe.

Salamat sa mga advice mga Sir!!!

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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2007, 11:50:51 AM »
one of the most underrated important parts of the kit is the throne, eto yung umaayos ng posture mo para mas comfortable ka magdrums. kung di ka confortable, expect mo na hindi lalabas ang gusto mong groove sa kakagalaw mo para umayos pumalo. napansin ko na rin to in my early days of drumming. naghahanap talaga ako ng stool....
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2007, 10:57:52 AM »
the t570A Mapex drum throne is still available on our branches, the throne goes for only 2,995, thick cushion seat and it has memory lock so even the big drummers can use this..cheers guys :wink:
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2007, 01:04:19 PM »
I would suggest you get yung walang sandalan. tapos pag mababa pa rin, patungan mo lang. the more the higher. adjustable ang monoblc eh :mrgreen:
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2007, 09:18:42 AM »
pansin ko rin to, for me i'm just using the generic one, i set it up at least a knee high and around 2.5 feet away from the end of the pedal, pag single naman same hight pero mas closer ako sa drums,

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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko?
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2007, 09:37:24 AM »
i can relate to that bro bulog.

sa bahay, monoblock din gamit ko. dalawang patong na monoblock. ang napasin ko after ng mga exercises ko, ngawit ang thigh muscles ko pagtapos ng ilang minutes pa lang.

pag sa church, since throne ang gamit ko, ndi naman nangangawit.

sana makakuha ako ng throne in the near future.
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2007, 09:59:12 AM »
Hi! noob ako, pwede malaman ung tamang height ng throne? Like.. should the right leg be in a 90 degree (right angle) or mas mataas dapat ung knee sa pwet? thanks! Lagi kasi ako nangangawit e after 2 songs nawawala na sa bilang ung paa ko, hirap na.

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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2007, 12:23:47 PM »
Hi! noob ako, pwede malaman ung tamang height ng throne? Like.. should the right leg be in a 90 degree (right angle) or mas mataas dapat ung knee sa pwet? thanks! Lagi kasi ako nangangawit e after 2 songs nawawala na sa bilang ung paa ko, hirap na.

Hmm, sabi ni weckl, basta parallel yung paa mo and parang you're leaning backward, hindi forward. Panoorin mo na lang yung Back to Basics ni Dave Weckl, andun ang proper positioning para sa sitting position....
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2007, 06:23:36 PM »
the nov issue of modern drummer discusses setup tips / ergo for the drum set.... seat height analysis for some drummers -- bob gatzen, will calhoun, cindy blackman, stanton moore, bill brufford.

They say the setup arrangement depends on the type of music these drummers create and their playing style and technique (trad,matched, etc...).

they also suggest to spend time and experiment with your setup considering the following principles -- path of least resistance (everything should be placed within arms length), economy of motion and resistance to movement (lesser movements).

The study they made gave some tips:
- regardless of style and kit setup, resist leaning forward into the drums
- angle of back relative to thighs should not go below 90 degrees
- angle of thigh and shin should not be under 90 degrees as well

Sabi din dito na dati daw si bob gatzen eh very low yung seat.. ayaw daw nya palitan kasi naging habit daw nya.. pero nung sinubukan daw nya itaas ng 1 inch ung upuan nya, ang laki daw ng naging diperensya -- mas madali nya daw nagagawa yung iba nyang ginagawa, mas tumatagal daw sya sa tugtugan and mas konti daw ung soreness na nararanasan nya after...

hth... :-)

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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2007, 08:33:32 PM »
Kasi pag sa church namin, same peds naman gamit ko, madili akong makapag doubles. Ang upuan dun ay generic drum throne.

Pero d2 sa haus, gamit ko same peds hirap at ngawit yung paa ko mag doubles.  Monobloc na chair (yung me sandalan) yung gamit ko, na medyo mababa.

Malaking factor po ba yung upuan kung mababa sya, or mataas, or yung nakasayad yung hita mo sa chair.  Kasi sa drum throne yung buttocks mo lang talaga yung nakaupo.

Curious lang po ako kung san ang factor bakit ngawit at hirap akong mag doubles sa haus.

Thanks


kung wala ka pa budget pang throne try mo gumamit nung monobloc na round na walang sandalan. yung ginagamit kasi dun sa tinutugtugan namin sa sucat (one luv) monobloc na may sandalan, ang napansin ko mejo nakasuspend yung thighs ko kasi palubog yung upuan mismo kaya di makabwelo yung paa ko so pinapapalitan ko ng upuan na flat yung sa may pwetan kahit hindi monobloc para kumportable
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Re: Me factor po ba and upuan kaya ako nahihirapan mag-doubles sa single peds ko?
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2007, 12:11:49 PM »
opo, lalo na sa double peds. How can you play comfortably w/ finesse if you're uncomfortable in sitting.
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