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« Reply #175 on: May 16, 2008, 08:12:20 AM »
IMHO, If hindi naman ganoon kalayo yung tunog ng "bagong" GDI21 sa original, mas maganda pa rin na may XLR output yung old version
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« Reply #176 on: May 16, 2008, 01:38:57 PM »
IMHO, If hindi naman ganoon kalayo yung tunog ng "bagong" GDI21 sa original, mas maganda pa rin na may XLR output yung old version
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« Reply #177 on: May 18, 2008, 05:36:05 AM »
Has anyone tried the DC9? Yung Dynamics Compressor ito, supposedly clone ng MXR Dynacomp (kaya DYNAmics COMPressor). Just saw it in the In-Tune store in Galleria, no time to test. Mukhang trip din kung malapit yung sound niya sa Dynacomp.

OT: Laughtrip yung isang tindero dun, pinaglalaruan yung VT999. Shred lang ng shred, hindi namamansin ng kliyente. Pipi pa yata - nung tinanong ko kung de-tubo, nag-nod lang, yung 'astig' nod pa na pitik lang pataas ang ulo. Hehehe.  :-D
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« Reply #178 on: May 18, 2008, 12:05:37 PM »
Has anyone tried the DC9? Yung Dynamics Compressor ito, supposedly clone ng MXR Dynacomp (kaya DYNAmics COMPressor). Just saw it in the In-Tune store in Galleria, no time to test. Mukhang trip din kung malapit yung sound niya sa Dynacomp.

OT: Laughtrip yung isang tindero dun, pinaglalaruan yung VT999. Shred lang ng shred, hindi namamansin ng kliyente. Pipi pa yata - nung tinanong ko kung de-tubo, nag-nod lang, yung 'astig' nod pa na pitik lang pataas ang ulo. Hehehe.  :-D
bakit?? mukha yatang nagenjoy un dung sa VT999 :lol: :lol: matry nga :lol:

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« Reply #179 on: May 18, 2008, 12:28:26 PM »
what do you guys say about the ultra phaser? the UP100
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« Reply #180 on: May 18, 2008, 04:32:18 PM »
OT: Laughtrip yung isang tindero dun, pinaglalaruan yung VT999. Shred lang ng shred, hindi namamansin ng kliyente. Pipi pa yata - nung tinanong ko kung de-tubo, nag-nod lang, yung 'astig' nod pa na pitik lang pataas ang ulo. Hehehe.  :-D

review naman sir sa tunog nung vt999. balak kong bumili e. thanks!
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« Reply #181 on: May 18, 2008, 07:15:54 PM »
the behringer gdi21 is indeed wonderful for what it does. 2 problems pose for me though..

1) plastic housing
2) footswitch

now if there was only a way to rehouse it safely and change the flimsy footswitch..
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« Reply #182 on: May 19, 2008, 01:46:50 PM »
anyone try their phaser yet? the UP100? how does it sound?
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« Reply #183 on: May 19, 2008, 10:50:03 PM »
tanong lang, ok ba ang ultra octaver ng behringer? :-D
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« Reply #184 on: May 20, 2008, 11:31:31 AM »
i had a CS-100 before which i got for php600 from cyrus in the classifieds section

mas ok siya sakin kesa sa boss cs-3 :-)

ayaw ko lang talaga ng location ng AC input niya
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« Reply #185 on: May 20, 2008, 01:08:18 PM »
sino my behringer tu100 dito? hehe how do you find it? ok ba na tuner? like boss tu-2 ba? hehe :-)

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« Reply #186 on: May 21, 2008, 11:59:50 AM »
review naman sir sa tunog nung vt999. balak kong bumili e. thanks!

Well, konti lang yung narinig ko from that particular event. Natakot ako kunin yung gitara sa tindero, baka patayin ako hehe.  :-D So i-compare ko na lang muna siya sa personal amp ko (all-tube Fender). From what I heard sa store, mukhang ok yung pagkaka-utilize ng 12AX7 nung VT999. Mainit ang tunog, even at low volume and going through a small, brittle-sounding amp (deduce the amp brand na lang). Parang mas malupit pa nga siya dumumi kaysa sa Fender amp e. Ang kaba ko lang is how will it sound with cranked levels? Para kasing sobrang warm na niya at low levels na baka pag nilakasan, mag-tunog putik. And I couldn't tell how much of the distorted effect was due to the tube itself or maybe a gain/clipping circuit or two - since puro 32nd notes ang ginagawa nung tindero and mababa levels, di ko ma-distinguish. Pero kung authentic tube OD/distortion ang hanap niyo, parang lalaban ito. Malamang, may tubo sa loob e.  :wink:
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« Reply #187 on: May 21, 2008, 12:10:43 PM »
Great review FWIW !

Anyway, I just wanted to say that not everything that has tubes is good. Some circuits plainly misuse tubes or don't really use them to full potential.

Thats why some bowteek solid-state pedals sound even better than tubed pedals :D. Thats why certain amps like Hartke piggybacks and Vtone "tubed" amps don't really sound that great.

Anyway, FWIW din and according to me, a real tube pedal should be operated high voltage. Anything less and the sound can be emulated by good FET or FET-input op-amp chips :D

Well, konti lang yung narinig ko from that particular event. Natakot ako kunin yung gitara sa tindero, baka patayin ako hehe.  :-D So i-compare ko na lang muna siya sa personal amp ko (all-tube Fender). From what I heard sa store, mukhang ok yung pagkaka-utilize ng 12AX7 nung VT999. Mainit ang tunog, even at low volume and going through a small, brittle-sounding amp (deduce the amp brand na lang). Parang mas malupit pa nga siya dumumi kaysa sa Fender amp e. Ang kaba ko lang is how will it sound with cranked levels? Para kasing sobrang warm na niya at low levels na baka pag nilakasan, mag-tunog putik. And I couldn't tell how much of the distorted effect was due to the tube itself or maybe a gain/clipping circuit or two - since puro 32nd notes ang ginagawa nung tindero and mababa levels, di ko ma-distinguish. Pero kung authentic tube OD/distortion ang hanap niyo, parang lalaban ito. Malamang, may tubo sa loob e.  :wink:
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« Reply #188 on: May 21, 2008, 12:45:47 PM »
anong kaguluhan ito? magkano ba yang vt999 na yan ha!!! :evil:

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« Reply #189 on: May 21, 2008, 12:58:16 PM »
@ Drew Asuncion:

thanks sa opinion sir. i'll crank up their amps (mababait naman mga taga-Music Depot/in-tune music kaya payag sila sa ganun) kapag sinubukan ko na para malaman kung ngongo na kapag hi-gain setting na.

@ Bamf

ano ang fwiw?

anyway, nagkaron ako nung tube amp nila dati. pero yung pinakang maliit lang (vintager ac 108). IMHO, i'd have to say na talo naman nun yung ibang amps (budget amps ng orange, fender bullet(?), laney, squier, epiphone), in terms pf warmth and response, na naubukan ko na kasing wattage nya (15 W).

is there any possibility to tell whether under utilized/misused yung 12ax7 sa loob nung vt999 just by inspection?

anong kaguluhan ito? magkano ba yang vt999 na yan ha!!! :evil:

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« Last Edit: May 21, 2008, 01:06:17 PM by farleysbeat »
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« Reply #190 on: May 21, 2008, 06:23:11 PM »
Anyway, FWIW din and according to me, a real tube pedal should be operated high voltage. Anything less and the sound can be emulated by good FET or FET-input op-amp chips :D


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« Reply #191 on: May 21, 2008, 06:24:11 PM »
review naman sa tu100 jan. hehe

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« Reply #192 on: May 21, 2008, 10:10:50 PM »
FWIW- for what it's worth.

I've seen many kinds of tube pedals and made two that are representative of both high-voltage and starved plate. My conclusion was the high voltage one (Real McCoy) was very good. Although it made my guitar a real "electric" guitar. Nakukuryente ako pag ginagamit ko sya.

Then I made one that uses starved plate, (Marsha Valve). My conclusion: not worth the effort to make. Starved plate designs use the tube merely for clipping, an effect which, IMHO, can be emulated using solid state electronics.

There are tell-tale signs whether a tube circuit is using high-voltage or not, although it's not always the case (use them only as hints but not as conclusions).

1. The input voltage is AC. For instance, 9Volts AC
2.The unit is powered directly from the AC mains

Anyway, I didn't refer to the behri vt999. I'll have to see din for myself. What I was cautiong lang was not to judge a piece of equipment just because you see a tube displayed. Behri is even notorious for putting fake lights behind tubes just for visual effect. Not that the thing is not wired in the circuit.

As for the Vintagers, Ive tried them from small to big. None of them blows me away.parang...k lang din. Actually, manipis sila sa tenga ko, pero baka ganun lang pagkaka-voice sa kanila.

FWIW din, I've tried the VT999. It does sound good and warm. That's the thing with   Behris, you cant generalize them as good or bad because things still depend on what circuit they copied from. For instance, the UD100 and DM100 are sound like s hit in my ears while the GDI21 is very very good.

@ Drew Asuncion:

thanks sa opinion sir. i'll crank up their amps (mababait naman mga taga-Music Depot/in-tune music kaya payag sila sa ganun) kapag sinubukan ko na para malaman kung ngongo na kapag hi-gain setting na.

@ Bamf

ano ang fwiw?

anyway, nagkaron ako nung tube amp nila dati. pero yung pinakang maliit lang (vintager ac 108). IMHO, i'd have to say na talo naman nun yung ibang amps (budget amps ng orange, fender bullet(?), laney, squier, epiphone), in terms pf warmth and response, na naubukan ko na kasing wattage nya (15 W).

is there any possibility to tell whether under utilized/misused yung 12ax7 sa loob nung vt999 just by inspection?

Php6000. i'll probably get mine this saturday. kapag sinipag ako lumakad. sarap mag-off/bakasyon e. hehe.



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« Reply #193 on: May 21, 2008, 11:06:47 PM »
review naman sa tu100 jan. hehe

Got a Behringer Tu100 B4 what can i say?? its better than Boss Tu-2... 
Base on my experience I Have both this pedals B4 the Boss TU2 Has a ToneSuck
the Tu100 Doesn't suck tone..
the only problem is like most other Behringer Pedals the housing coz its made of plastic
its not that durable like boss's
nice thing about the Tu100 it can tune upto the Lower B (DROP B)
That all i can say.. Hope that helps...

Still have two Behringer Pedals AM100 (Acoustic MOdeler) & FX100 (Modulaition Multi-FX) (Chorus, Flanger, Phaser, Delay, Tremolo & Pitch Shifter)
these two pedals really is a Big Part of my RIG...  :-D
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« Reply #194 on: May 22, 2008, 09:18:59 AM »
@ sir BAMF:

sir thanks for the insights and other pieces of information. makakatulong yan sa pagdesisyon ko kung bibili ba ako o hindi. naghahanap kasi ako ng dirt pedal na (1) ok by itself at (2) yung pwedeng i-cascade sa gdi21 ko.

fyi lang din: meron pa akong nakitang behringer products may 12ax7 sa loob. yung MIC100 at MIC200. preamp gadgets. nasubukan ko na pareho at para sa tenga ko, it does add presence especially the MIC200 (probably because it's partly designed for guitars). also, as you start to crank up, you'll notice that your sound does indeed get warmer and responsive and it actually feels like you are using a tube amp (this last part might be an exaggeration hehe). pero di ko binili kasi di naman ako nagre-record e. hehe.


@ sir dyulyus:

sir review naman nung fx100. hehe. gusto ko rin ng vintage time machine 1 kaso walang stock kaya baka mag-fx100 na ako. hehe.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2008, 09:20:39 AM by farleysbeat »
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« Reply #195 on: May 22, 2008, 09:23:04 AM »
Salamat sir BAMF. Tunugan niyo ako pag sa Paco na kayo ha. :D BTW, I tried the 6pF cap tonesuck 'cure' you mentioned in another thread on my Behringer Hellbabe. Is it just me, or lumakas yung output volume niya ng konti?  :-)
« Last Edit: May 22, 2008, 09:26:36 AM by Drew Asuncion »
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« Reply #196 on: May 22, 2008, 09:42:34 AM »
Yup that can happen. And not only that, the "highs" should be more present when you apply the 6pF tonesuck mitigation mod.
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« Reply #197 on: May 22, 2008, 09:47:42 AM »
@ sir dyulyus:

sir review naman nung fx100. hehe. gusto ko rin ng vintage time machine 1 kaso walang stock kaya baka mag-fx100 na ako. hehe.

oh... Looks like Maganda ung Vintage time Machine its a EHX Memory man Clone..  :wink:
My review s FX100 overall il give it about 80% performance rily sounds good except for the phaser mababaw masyado yung sweep niya kahit itodo ung depth & Speed niya masyadong manipis yung phase pero all the other efx was good lalo ung Chorus & tremolo kya nung tunog ng tremolo tom morello hhehe.. For the chorus Lush saya kaya gusto ko it can go head to head with the Boss CE5.. medyo mababaw kc ung CE5 ng Boss.. Delay ok nman prang DD100 ng behringer.. another problem is you cant use them all to get.. so u have to turn Knobs when if you want to change the effect... nga pala it also have a TOne Suck pagnaka-On sya e Medyo mnipis ung tunog.. pero ive tried with with s BBE sonic stomp it can solve the Tone Suck makes Your Tone Sounds almost perfect hehehe.. or i dont know if pwedeng imod Para maging trueBypass para mawala yung tone Suck.. :-) that is and offcourse dont forget the Plastic Housing hehehe :lol:
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« Reply #198 on: May 22, 2008, 09:56:38 AM »
oh... Looks like Maganda ung Vintage time Machine its a EHX Memory man Clone..  :wink:
My review s FX100 overall il give it about 80% performance rily sounds good except for the phaser mababaw masyado yung sweep niya kahit itodo ung depth & Speed niya masyadong manipis yung phase pero all the other efx was good lalo ung Chorus & tremolo kya nung tunog ng tremolo tom morello hhehe.. For the chorus Lush saya kaya gusto ko it can go head to head with the Boss CE5.. medyo mababaw kc ung CE5 ng Boss.. Delay ok nman prang DD100 ng behringer.. another problem is you cant use them all to get.. so u have to turn Knobs when if you want to change the effect... nga pala it also have a TOne Suck pagnaka-On sya e Medyo mnipis ung tunog.. pero ive tried with with s BBE sonic stomp it can solve the Tone Suck makes Your Tone Sounds almost perfect hehehe.. or i dont know if pwedeng imod Para maging trueBypass para mawala yung tone Suck.. :-) that is and offcourse dont forget the Plastic Housing hehehe :lol:

aw...i hate tone suck. pass na lang siguro ako sa fx100 at aantayin ko magkaron sila ng vintage time machine. hehe. yung vt999, san kinopya yun?
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« Reply #199 on: May 22, 2008, 10:22:26 AM »
oh... Looks like Maganda ung Vintage time Machine its a EHX Memory man Clone..  :wink:
My review s FX100 overall il give it about 80% performance rily sounds good except for the phaser mababaw masyado yung sweep niya kahit itodo ung depth & Speed niya masyadong manipis yung phase pero all the other efx was good lalo ung Chorus & tremolo kya nung tunog ng tremolo tom morello hhehe.. For the chorus Lush saya kaya gusto ko it can go head to head with the Boss CE5.. medyo mababaw kc ung CE5 ng Boss.. Delay ok nman prang DD100 ng behringer.. another problem is you cant use them all to get.. so u have to turn Knobs when if you want to change the effect... nga pala it also have a TOne Suck pagnaka-On sya e Medyo mnipis ung tunog.. pero ive tried with with s BBE sonic stomp it can solve the Tone Suck makes Your Tone Sounds almost perfect hehehe.. or i dont know if pwedeng imod Para maging trueBypass para mawala yung tone Suck.. :-) that is and offcourse dont forget the Plastic Housing hehehe :lol:

ur so ryt about the phaser. and soooo ryt about the tremolo  :-D heheheh
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