Author Topic: FOOTWORK TECHNIQUE thread (Read 58489 times)

autoexec · « **Reply #125 on:** November 19, 2006, 07:51:48 AM »

try mo din pag padjak mo ng heel mo sa pedal mejo pa forward, papunta ng konti sa bassdrum yung force mo, i mean hindi dapat straight 90° yung angle.. Ewan ko ha pero ako ganun ginagawa ko mas effective... Pero pag tinignan mo yung paa mo parang straight lang yung pag apak mo, parang ikaw na lang nakakaalam nun a mejo pa paforward yung force ng heel mo. tapos tsaka mo sabayan ng toe.

killuaxp · « **Reply #126 on:** November 19, 2006, 07:56:52 AM »

ah olryt men! ill try it. thanx tlga sa tips. mahina kasi ako sa bass eh. limited ung kicks ko

autoexec · « **Reply #127 on:** November 19, 2006, 07:59:31 AM »

No problem man. Ako naman mahina sa mga rolling rollings at sa mga ghost note ghost notes.. heheh.. Pati sa accents din. Hahaha.

killuaxp · « **Reply #128 on:** November 19, 2006, 08:07:25 AM »

ako din tol! mahina ako sa lahat! ngaun plang din ako nakakapraktis tlga. sabi sa akin para mag improve sa rolling aral daw rudiments single stroke, doeble, paradiddles, flams mga basic lng nun tas aun nga ung galing sau ung tip mo sa bass pedal dagdag ko na din sa aaralin ko.kht papano nag improve nmn rolling ko pero hindi mablis ah. saktong posteng rolling lng singit2X lng. di pa pwd magsolo hihi!

autoexec · « **Reply #129 on:** November 19, 2006, 08:20:43 AM »

ayun nga eh.. Rudiments nga daw.. Marunong naman ako nung mga yun kahit papano.. ang hindi ko lang alam eh kung papano ililibot yun sa drumset. hahah marunong ako mag rudiments pag sa isang part lang ng drums. Di ko alam kung papano ko sila ililipat lipat.

killuaxp · « **Reply #130 on:** November 19, 2006, 08:29:11 AM »

wahihi! ako nag uumpisa plang sa rudiments eh. pero nitry ko lang nakakalito pa din hehehe!

dictatone · « **Reply #131 on:** November 20, 2006, 05:24:37 AM »

dapat pagaralan ung motion ng paa. agree din ako with autoexec. sometimes kylangan ng magandang pedal to do this trick kase ibang feel ang nbibigay ng mga high end pedals w/c made it easier to execute the technique. im sure you'll be able to do it too with a regular pedals but it may take you a longer time. well its my own opinion.

tsaka for me i like the heel-toe although di ko pa tlga siya inaaral kase it releases the beater 1-2inches after it hits the bass drum w/c is impt para "bilog" para nkakahinga yung tunog. same thing w/ the hands, kpag pumapalo kyo ng toms di nyo naman binabaon ung stick diba. u drop/hit it and lets it bounce or release it. "ano kaya tunog nun noh kpag pinalo mo ung stick mo tpos nkabaon lng siya sa tom" hehehe. same thing din with our bigger tom w/c is our bass drum kaya "MISMO" sken and heel-toe. =)

killuaxp · « **Reply #132 on:** November 22, 2006, 03:43:50 AM »

tsong napanuod ko na si derrick pope, astig! ty men! meron din pla siya ibang videos ng techniques pero concentrate muna ko sa rudiments at foot exercises yung basic para magawa yung mga flashy stuff after. hehehe! ty!

pyong_2 · « **Reply #133 on:** November 22, 2006, 03:11:16 PM »

sir pmack im sorry kasi that time bago pa lang ako, di ko alam yung rules na no short text style heheheheh, im so sorry talaga hehehehe.......pinapractice ko pa din na both heel-toe or both slide, pra pantay, iba kasi ang tunog gaya ng 2strokes sa kamay may magkakaibang accents merong accent yung 1st note o 2nd note or pantay, mahirap pero tyagaan lang heheheh, saludo sa mga pinoy tamboleros GodBless

bone · « **Reply #134 on:** January 25, 2007, 12:54:43 AM »

hi everyone.

share naman kayo.
effective exercise/drills to improve our footwork.
sinlge ped and double peds.

thanks

daemonite · « **Reply #135 on:** January 25, 2007, 01:39:38 AM »

for physical fitness, it is a great help when you do running exercises heel-up. or running up and down the stairs heel-up. basta any leg exercises ng mga athletes for the foot can be used in footwork training. hehehe. I hope i'm right kasi eto ang mga exercises ko. I run a lot and walk a lot days before a gig or practice.

autoexec · « **Reply #136 on:** January 25, 2007, 03:52:29 AM »

Quote from: bone on January 25, 2007, 12:54:43 AM

hi everyone.

share naman kayo.
effective exercise/drills to improve our footwork.
sinlge ped and double peds.

thanks

Isip ka ng beat na more on bass drum. Like "tug tutupak, tutug, tutug, patutug tutupak, etc..."
Then apply mo sa drumkit. Ganon kasi ginagawa ko eh. Effective naman.

jpmb · « **Reply #137 on:** January 25, 2007, 10:33:57 AM »

Quote from: daemonite on January 25, 2007, 01:39:38 AM

for physical fitness, it is a great help when you do running exercises heel-up. or running up and down the stairs heel-up. basta any leg exercises ng mga athletes for the foot can be used in footwork training. hehehe. I hope i'm right kasi eto ang mga exercises ko. I run a lot and walk a lot days before a gig or practice.

i kinda agree with that..hehehe...right now i have my own statio bike sa bahay namin for two purpose...its for my leg excercise sa drumming and para pumayat...hahaha..taking out the beer belly.......

pmack · « **Reply #138 on:** January 25, 2007, 12:30:24 PM »

Quote from: daemonite on January 25, 2007, 01:39:38 AM

for physical fitness, it is a great help when you do running exercises heel-up. or running up and down the stairs heel-up. basta any leg exercises ng mga athletes for the foot can be used in footwork training. hehehe. I hope i'm right kasi eto ang mga exercises ko. I run a lot and walk a lot days before a gig or practice.

i agree with this one too.
if you wanna improve your footwork, improve on your feet. focus on exercises that help build the calf muscles.

and one more thing, try adjusting your seat height. taasan konti. i don't know kung ganito talaga para sa lahat pero nagkaroon ako ng strength and konting versatility sa both feet ko nung tinaasan ko seat height ko (payo ni mod drumster dio). share ko lang.

Gep · « **Reply #139 on:** January 25, 2007, 12:39:46 PM »

Quote from: pmack on January 25, 2007, 12:30:24 PM

one more thing, try adjusting your seat height. taasan konti. i don't know kung ganito talaga para sa lahat pero nagkaroon ako ng strength and konting versatility sa both feet ko nung tinaasan ko seat height ko (payo ni mod drumster dio). share ko lang.

Ito yung naging advise ni Steve Smith nung tumugtog siya dati sa Zildjian Day. That way, mababawasan ang effort na kakailanganin sa pag-apak ng pedal.

Sa tingin ko, ikaw rin ang makakabuo ng style mo sa pag-apak sa pedal e. Basta ang goal mo lang e consistent ang strokes at hindi hahalik sa bass head (oops! guilty! hehehe). Kahit next time na yung speed.

lil.drummerboy · « **Reply #140 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:35:23 PM »

can you give me some tips or exercise to improve my heel - toe technique? ung mga ginagawa ni chris adler, tim waterson, nick graham,derrick pepe at derek roddy. hirap gawin pag mabilis.. pag mabagal medyo kaya pa.

skunkyfunk · « **Reply #141 on:** February 18, 2007, 11:49:57 PM »

Quote from: lil.drummerboy on February 18, 2007, 11:35:23 PM

can you give me some tips or exercise to improve my heel - toe technique? ung mga ginagawa ni chris adler, tim waterson, nick graham,derrick pepe at derek roddy. hirap gawin pag mabilis.. pag mabagal medyo kaya pa.

Bili ka ng Axis Longboards. And try to compete in the next WFD... Tim Yeung rocks!

pyong_2 · « **Reply #142 on:** February 19, 2007, 02:15:07 AM »

nasanay na kasi ako ng slide but i exercise heel-toe technique hirap din tyagaan talaga...GodBless

autoexec · « **Reply #143 on:** February 19, 2007, 04:04:08 AM »

ano po ba ang pedal mo? Mahirap kasi yan simulan sa matigas na pedal..

lil.drummerboy · « **Reply #144 on:** February 20, 2007, 06:50:12 PM »

Quote from: skunkyfunk on February 18, 2007, 11:49:57 PM

Quote from: lil.drummerboy on February 18, 2007, 11:35:23 PM
can you give me some tips or exercise to improve my heel - toe technique? ung mga ginagawa ni chris adler, tim waterson, nick graham,derrick pepe at derek roddy. hirap gawin pag mabilis.. pag mabagal medyo kaya pa.

Bili ka ng Axis Longboards. And try to compete in the next WFD... Tim Yeung rocks!

oo yun nga ung nakita ko na gamit ni chris adler sa mga insructional bass drum technique at sa mga sound check nya. mahaba nga un pang heel toe tlga..

fredzs · « **Reply #145 on:** February 20, 2007, 09:51:35 PM »

The Heel-Toe Technique doesn't have anything to do with your foot being too big or the pedal board being too small. You DO NOT use the heel of your feet to make a strike.

Don't get me wrong.. I can't do the heel-toe technique. But I've seen a video in youtube of a guy.. I think his handle is Ironcobra something.. and he demonstrated that you don't actually use the heel of your foot.

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Watch Tim Waterson explain the technique. IMO, It's more of a "BALL-TOE" Technique. since you use the ball of your foot then the toe.

phfreq · « **Reply #146 on:** February 20, 2007, 10:01:35 PM »

Quote from: fredzs on February 20, 2007, 09:51:35 PM

The Heel-Toe Technique doesn't have anything to do with your foot being too big or the pedal board being too small. You DO NOT use the heel of your feet to make a strike.

actually, iirc, there's one video that I saw where chris adler uses his heel to make the first strike then do doubles using the toe. Something like one strike with heel slide down, then hit doubles with his toe. Yun din ang sinabi nya dun sa video -- hindi daw nya magagawa yung technique na yon sa regular peds -- kaya daw longboards ung ginagamit nya. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

fredzs · « **Reply #147 on:** February 20, 2007, 10:03:28 PM »

That's True. I've seen that video and I've seen Chris Adler's foot technique. But if other drummers can do it without using the heel to make the first strike, why can't we ?

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Another vid with the feet about midway on his Iron Cobra's

Bammbamm · « **Reply #148 on:** February 20, 2007, 10:52:55 PM »

Ei! There's no rule about techniques!
Let's always consider other factors that contribute to the efficiency of each method ie seat height, physical size of the player,pedal size and their configurations,style of music, etc!

IMHO, drummers should try to learn as many different techniques as possible. Kasi may iba't-ibang tempo ng songs na hindi applicable ang particular technique.
Foot technique, like hand technique, will develop over time.These depend on the music that you play, and your personality. We just have to be open-minded to learn as many as we can.

... And always practice, practice, practice!

lil.drummerboy · « **Reply #149 on:** February 21, 2007, 07:26:39 PM »

teka lang mukhang hindi kayo sumasang ayon sa isat isa.. cguro pwede mo naman ma gawa ung heel toe kahit hindi axis long boards na pedal ang gamit. pero alam ko mas mapapadali yun. meron akong dvd ng lamb of god killadelphia. merong sound check at intructions si chris adler dun. mas ok talaga gumamit ng mahabang pedal kung mag heel-toe ka.

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