Author Topic: Local wood for guitar body (Read 130880 times)

AhVia_Musicom · « **Reply #450 on:** March 14, 2011, 12:27:29 AM »

Quote from: redballs17 on March 14, 2011, 12:09:36 AM

nakita ko kasi ito

http://www.stuartxchange.org/Kalantas.html

toona celliata ung isang scientific name nya ayon dun sa link. Parehas nga yung itsura niya, napaisip tuloy ako sa nakita natis sa idlewood. parehas din ba presyo dun sa pinagkukuwaan mo?

eric sa idle wood may malalapad din ba silang board nang kalantas dun? or gaya din size sa toog? medyo maputi ata yung sa idle wood the one i got mapula 65 or 75 per bft mas mura siguro sa pinag kukunan ko sa idle wood kasi parang finished product na ang price nang sa idlewood diba?

redballs17 · « **Reply #451 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:55:23 AM »

Mas malaki ung kalantas nila dun kesa sa toog. Parang medyo maputi nga ung stocks nila doon. naalala ko lang kasi sabi ni Jb baka balikan niya un nung paalis na tayo. di ko lang natanong yung price.

maxi_musikero · « **Reply #452 on:** March 14, 2011, 11:04:21 AM »

kalantas is red cedar? hmmmmm...if so then it will have different tonal characteristics than mahogany since cedar is known to produce warm-sounding tones.

my squier strat is made from red cedar as well.

AhVia_Musicom · « **Reply #453 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:05:30 PM »

Quote from: maxi_musikero on March 14, 2011, 11:04:21 AM

kalantas is red cedar? hmmmmm...if so then it will have different tonal characteristics than mahogany since cedar is known to produce warm-sounding tones.

my squier strat is made from red cedar as well.

@redballs , eric oo medyo maputi nga pag naka daan ka sa shop papakita ko yung kalantas ko

@maxi kalantas is not mahogany i believe iba grains and amoy, hehehehehe

just went to my source of ash wala nang board na 14in wide 11in wide nalang pinakamalaki, for now 2pc lang ang possible antay lang tayo pero matatagalan pa nang konti siguro or order nalang tayo sa US, selected a couple of light boards kanina will get it probably later or tom and found some 14in wide hard maple pwedeng pang top

maxi_musikero · « **Reply #454 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:50:54 PM »

Quote from: AhVia_Musicom on March 14, 2011, 01:05:30 PM

@maxi kalantas is not mahogany i believe iba grains and amoy, hehehehehe

just went to my source of ash wala nang board na 14in wide 11in wide nalang pinakamalaki, for now 2pc lang ang possible antay lang tayo pero matatagalan pa nang konti siguro or order nalang tayo sa US, selected a couple of light boards kanina will get it probably later or tom and found some 14in wide hard maple pwedeng pang top

narinig ko kasi before na ang kalantas is like higher-end mahogany.

i'm willing to wait for the perfect ash to make a 1-piece tele body bro. i'm not in for the additional expense of shipping wood from the US.

jbarot · « **Reply #455 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:13:04 PM »

Quote from: AhVia_Musicom on March 14, 2011, 01:05:30 PM

@redballs , eric oo medyo maputi nga pag naka daan ka sa shop papakita ko yung kalantas ko

@maxi kalantas is not mahogany i believe iba grains and amoy, hehehehehe

just went to my source of ash wala nang board na 14in wide 11in wide nalang pinakamalaki, for now 2pc lang ang possible antay lang tayo pero matatagalan pa nang konti siguro or order nalang tayo sa US, selected a couple of light boards kanina will get it probably later or tom and found some 14in wide hard maple pwedeng pang top

How much is the maple? Need itnfor back and sides.

Red cedar is different. I don't think that kalantas is a cedar, much less red cedar. I have red cedar planks and theynare nowhere like kalantas.

maxi_musikero · « **Reply #456 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:25:51 PM »

Quote from: jbarot on March 14, 2011, 02:13:04 PM

Red cedar is different. I don't think that kalantas is a cedar, much less red cedar. I have red cedar planks and theynare nowhere like kalantas.

what would you say is kalantas comparable to bro?

jbarot · « **Reply #457 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:34:27 PM »

Quote from: maxi_musikero on March 14, 2011, 02:25:51 PM

what would you say is kalantas comparable to bro?

I say it's like mahogany in texture, but less red in color At least with the specimens I have seen...

i just learned that my old grade school is thinking about replacing the old old church pews with new ones. salvaged old growth! parang lowden guitars hehehe! will follow this bit of news...

maxi_musikero · « **Reply #458 on:** March 14, 2011, 04:58:40 PM »

Quote from: jbarot on March 14, 2011, 02:34:27 PM

I say it's like mahogany in texture, but less red in color At least with the specimens I have seen...

i just learned that my old grade school is thinking about replacing the old old church pews with new ones. salvaged old growth! parang lowden guitars hehehe! will follow this bit of news...

nice! kaya lang wood used for church pews are bound to be heavy.

jbarot · « **Reply #459 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:38:40 PM »

Quote from: maxi_musikero on March 14, 2011, 04:58:40 PM

nice! kaya lang wood used for church pews are bound to be heavy.

we'll see.

i read somewhere that a banjo maker made his rims with really old maple that was once flooring for about 200 years. he thinks that all the stepping and the pounding made the grains tighter.

i know its crazy...but i'll try anyway

free2rock · « **Reply #460 on:** March 14, 2011, 07:40:17 PM »

Quote from: jbarot on March 14, 2011, 06:38:40 PM

we'll see.

i read somewhere that a banjo maker made his rims with really old maple that was once flooring for about 200 years. he thinks that all the stepping and the pounding made the grains tighter.

i know its crazy...but i'll try anyway

Them Luthiers are crazy people LOL!

jbarot · « **Reply #461 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:07:57 PM »

Hey, if I get that stash it's blessed wood! Maybe finally I'll have that "magical tone" of an instrument a few of us claim to have hahahahaha

maxi_musikero · « **Reply #462 on:** March 14, 2011, 10:27:27 PM »

Quote from: free2rock on March 14, 2011, 07:40:17 PM

Them Luthiers are crazy people LOL!

there's a very thin line between crazy and genius. it's up to their customers to determine which side of the line their luthier is.

Quote from: jbarot on March 14, 2011, 08:07:57 PM

Hey, if I get that stash it's blessed wood! Maybe finally I'll have that "magical tone" of an instrument a few of us claim to have hahahahaha

AhVia_Musicom · « **Reply #463 on:** March 15, 2011, 02:19:17 AM »

Quote from: maxi_musikero on March 14, 2011, 02:25:51 PM

what would you say is kalantas comparable to bro?

will try to take pics tom of the kalantas and mahog para makita mo difference grains look like ash and oak heehehehe

but some people here say that kalantas is phil. mahog

skrumian · « **Reply #464 on:** March 15, 2011, 04:00:15 AM »

kalantas (Toona calantas) is the "true" Philippine mahogany. It is under the Meliaceae, the so called Mahogany family.

guitarman8294 · « **Reply #465 on:** March 15, 2011, 07:39:44 AM »

Sabi sakin Tangile is in the family of Philippine mahogany din..

redballs17 · « **Reply #466 on:** March 15, 2011, 09:38:05 AM »

Lauan is also called Phil. Mahogany in most lumber stores.

maxi_musikero · « **Reply #467 on:** March 15, 2011, 10:20:02 AM »

nalintikan na. ang daming pangalan ng Phil Mahogany.

redballs17 · « **Reply #468 on:** March 15, 2011, 10:59:04 AM »

Quote from: maxi_musikero on March 15, 2011, 10:20:02 AM

nalintikan na. ang daming pangalan ng Phil Mahogany.

To think there's two kinds of lauan, white and red. Tangile can be bought from normal hardwares, I think its much softer than kalantas and lauan.

By the way I heard Gibson is now using fiji-mahogany as an alternative to african and honduras. Some claim it's the same with our red lauan.