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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 01:42:02 AM »
oo nga eh, ano kaya solution dito? natatakot na rin ako kasi dami ng doomsday..(2010 - doomsday ng web, 2012 - doomsday ng earth.)  :|
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 03:20:24 AM »
oo nga eh, ano kaya solution dito? natatakot na rin ako kasi dami ng doomsday..(2010 - doomsday ng web, 2012 - doomsday ng earth.)  :|

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 07:34:06 AM »
Malapit na bumangon ang Skynet.  It's the Rise of the Machines, baby!  John Connor, where are you? hehehe.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 07:47:58 AM »
Malapit na bumangon ang Skynet.  It's the Rise of the Machines, baby!  John Connor, where are you? hehehe.

OT: what a coincidence. pinanood ko yung vcd ng terminator 1 & 2 kagabi. kung hindi ako nagkakamali 1997 nagsimula yung Rise of the Machines.

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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 05:37:31 PM »
is this true? will it possibly happen?  :|

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2008, 07:53:06 AM »
Oh crap, no more porn. :-(

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 01:38:53 PM »
Excerpt from the Article:
The company (AT&T) says that without substantial investment in network infrastructure, the Internet will essentially run out of bandwidth in just two short years.

The primary aim of the report is to justify the investment and to tell people that rates will increase due to the said investment. My two cents.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 10:40:36 PM »
hindi ako naniniwala dito baka naman AT&T lang mauubusan ng bandwidth madami naman telco or ISP companies na pwede mag provide ng bandwidth kaya lang nabigay ng ganyan announcement and AT&T possible na hindi pa nila na uupgrade mga facilities nila...or talagang walang nag iinvest sa kanila sa sobrang dami na din ng ISP ngayon...sa tingin ko kailangan mag adjust ng AT&T sa environment nila hindi nila dapat sisihin ung broadband users...dahil ung nacoconsume na bandwidth ng mga broadband users wala pa sa 1% ng malalaking bandwidth ng mga malalaking kumpanya...madami pang companies na pwedeng mag bigay ng bandwidth like dito sa Asia meron ANC, PCCW, HKIX, Singtel, Seednet, PLDT, as in sobrang dami ng companies sa buong mundo na pwede mag bigay ng bandwidth kaya no need matakot peeps

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2008, 02:21:14 PM »
eto naman isa pa nilang plan for the internets...

http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality2

pucha mukang sobrang big deal talaga netong 2012 na to...pati internets may doomsday din amf...
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2008, 12:43:06 AM »
sa mga nag post ng mga info, paki paste nlng ung mga details please. Di mabuksan ung mga links na yan sa opis.  Sayang nman tong mga information na to.  thanks.  that goes to you kosang marzi.  hehehe.  peace all!

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2008, 06:31:14 PM »
sa mga nag post ng mga info, paki paste nlng ung mga details please. Di mabuksan ung mga links na yan sa opis.  Sayang nman tong mga information na to.  thanks.  that goes to you kosang marzi.  hehehe.  peace all!

2010: D-day for the Internet as it hits "full capacity"?

Doom-filled warnings arrive from AT&T this week. The company says that without substantial investment in network infrastructure, the Internet will essentially run out of bandwidth in just two short years.

Blame broadband, says AT&T. Decades of dealing with the trickle of bandwidth consumed by voice and dialup modems left AT&T twiddling its thumbs. The massive rise of DSL and cable modem service in the 2000s has had AT&T facing a monstrous increase in the volume of data transmissions. And that's set to increase another 50 times between now and 2015. That's enough, says AT&T, to all but crash the system.

In response, AT&T says it's investing $19 billion to upgrade the backbone of the Internet, the routers, servers, and connections where the bulk of traffic is processed.

Of course, AT&T is using this breathlessness in part to point fingers beyond simple broadband use. Web video (especially high-definition video) is the most commonly mentioned bandwidth hog. AT&T says video alone will eat up 80 percent of traffic in two years vs. just 30 percent now. One wonders how YouTube doesn't collapse under the pressure. Hmmm.

Meanwhile, many are wondering whether this is prelude to AT&T announcing (or not announcing, but doing anyway) a traffic prioritization/shaping system like Comcast has been tinkering with... and which has earned it nothing but scorn. Net neutrality (which would forbid premium pricing for certain Internet applications and destinations) is a topic that continues to be hotly debated on Capitol Hill, and telcos are anxious to kill the idea since they'd love to be able to charge additional money for different kinds of web traffic. If the whole Internet is about to crash, well, that makes AT&T's argument all the more compelling, doesn't it?

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AT&T: Internet to hit full capacity by 2010

U.S. telecommunications giant AT&T has claimed that, without investment, the Internet's current network architecture will reach the limits of its capacity by 2010.

Speaking at a Westminster eForum on Web 2.0 this week in London, Jim Cicconi, vice president of legislative affairs for AT&T, warned that the current systems that constitute the Internet will not be able to cope with the increasing amounts of video and user-generated content being uploaded.

"The surge in online content is at the center of the most dramatic changes affecting the Internet today," he said. "In three years' time, 20 typical households will generate more traffic than the entire Internet today."

Cicconi, who was speaking at the event as part of a wider series of meetings with U.K. government officials, said that at least $55 billion worth of investment was needed in new infrastructure in the next three years in the U.S. alone, with the figure rising to $130 billion to improve the network worldwide. "We are going to be butting up against the physical capacity of the Internet by 2010," he said.

He claimed that the "unprecedented new wave of broadband traffic" would increase 50-fold by 2015 and that AT&T is investing $19 billion to maintain its network and upgrade its backbone network.

Cicconi added that more demand for high-definition video will put an increasing strain on the Internet infrastructure. "Eight hours of video is loaded onto YouTube every minute. Everything will become HD very soon, and HD is 7 to 10 times more bandwidth-hungry than typical video today. Video will be 80 percent of all traffic by 2010, up from 30 percent today," he said.

The AT&T executive pointed out that the Internet exists, thanks to the infrastructure provided by a group of mostly private companies. "There is nothing magic or ethereal about the Internet--it is no more ethereal than the highway system. It is not created by an act of God, but upgraded and maintained by private investors," he said.

Although Cicconi's speech did not explicitly refer to the term "Net neutrality," some audience members tackled him on the issue in a question-and-answer session, asking whether the subtext of his speech was really around prioritizing some kinds of traffic. Cicconi responded by saying he believed government intervention in the Internet was fundamentally wrong.

"I think people agree why the Internet is successful. My personal view is that government has widely chosen to...keep a light touch and let innovators develop it," he said. "The reason I resist using the term 'Net neutrality' is that I don't think government intervention is the right way to do this kind of thing. I don't think government can anticipate these kinds of technical problems. Right now, I think Net neutrality is a solution in search of a problem."

Net neutrality refers to an ongoing campaign calling for governments to legislate to prevent Internet service providers from charging content providers for prioritization of their traffic. The debate is more heated in the United States than in the United Kingdom because there is less competition between ISPs in the States.

Content creators argue that Net neutrality should be legislated in order to protect consumers and keep all Internet traffic equal. Network operators and service providers argue that the Internet is already unequal, and certain types of traffic--VoIP, for example--require prioritization by default.

"However well-intentioned, regulatory restraints can inefficiently skew investment, delay innovation, and diminish consumer welfare, and there is reason to believe that the kinds of broad marketplace restrictions proposed in the name of 'neutrality' would do just that, with respect to the Internet," the U.S. Department of Justice said in a statement last year.

The BBC has come under fire from service providers such as Tiscali, which claim that its iPlayer online-TV service is becoming a major drain on network bandwidth.

In a recent posting on his BBC blog, Ashley Highfield, the corporation's director of future media and technology, defended the iPlayer: "I would not suggest that ISPs start to try and charge content providers. They are already charging their customers for broadband to receive any content they want."

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2008, 07:08:30 AM »
 :lol: parang year 2000 uli. seriously guys, kung mangyari ito, portion lang mundo ang maaapektuhan at meron paring internet. Hindi naman sa AT&T lang nakakabit ang internet. sa pinas lang dalawa ang major facilities kung saan nakakabit ang internet (PLDT and Eastern telecoms). kahit mga major web sites may mga redundant routes para kung sakaling magdown yung ISP nila, pwedeng sa iba padaanin ang traffic. at yung ibang website tulad ng google at yahoo may servers yan per worldwide.

Remember a few years ago, nagka lindol sa asia pacific at naputol yung mga fiber optic cables sa pacific ocean? halos one week walang internet nun at halos two months inabot bago nakapaglatag ng cable sa dagat para lang maibalik ang internet sa south east asia.

http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2007/5/3/technology/17579935&sec=technology

well kung hindi nyo maalala ang balitang ito, then you don't have to panic about losing the internet in year 2010.

reminds me of a southpark episode

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/166192

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Re: OH NO! THE INTERNET IS RUNNING OUT OF BANDWIDTH!
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2008, 03:23:40 PM »
sa mga nag post ng mga info, paki paste nlng ung mga details please. Di mabuksan ung mga links na yan sa opis.  Sayang nman tong mga information na to.  thanks.  that goes to you kosang marzi.  hehehe.  peace all!

eto pre...updated na yung blog entry eh...wala na yung pic na kung saan naka package na ang internet sa mga iilan sites lang..halimbawa may plan na for $49.99, may access ka sa yahoo, hotmail at iba pang sites...tapos meron din na $59.99 at may iba pang sites na nadagdag..parang cable tv dito satin...

eto na yung blog post

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Over the past few years, there has been an increase of debate, legal disputes and political activity surrounding net neutrality: the principle of a completely 'open' Internet where providers like Comcast and Verizon simply give you access to the entire global network without in any way blocking or reducing the quality of access to certain services. The problem is that, especially with the drastic decrease in popularity of traditional media, it is becoming far more profitable for Internet providers to limit and prioritize your Internet access. From their point of view, the ideal business model would be a television-like system that requires you to pay extra subscription fees to access sites that aren't included in your standard package of 'channels'.

At one point the future seemed very grim for net neutrality, Virgin Media announced they had no plans to respect these Internet freedoms and details on Non-Disclosure Agreements between high-profile ISP's leaked out that revealed their plans to globally move to very restricted Internet access business models. But two things have happened that made the future for an open Internet much brighter:

1. The FCC recently proved that it would uphold net neutrality by law as it made its first very concrete rulings against Comcast when they infringed upon net neutrality by blocking BitTorrent access.
2. As any possible form of international demise of net neutrality would have to begin in the United States where the current telecom monopoly allows ISP's to reshape the Internet as they see fit, it now seems that this has become very unlikely since Barack Obama has been elected as President and has vowed to protect net neutrality.

However, the reason why I Power will always remain very vigilant on the net neutrality front is because with some of the wealthiest industries in the world (telecom, television, marketing,...) lobbying for less net neutrality, it's safe to say the fight is not over yet.

I Power has always been a community that keeps a very close eye on the net neutrality front and is quick to react when for example Virgin Media's CEO blatantly stated that they think 'net neutrality is bollocks'. The community has often been the driving force to get net neutrality issues into the spotlight of the mainstream media and will continue to be active in these areas. It's because of net neutrality that an international grassroots culture like I Power can change the world and we see it as our responsibility to fight for these freedoms.
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Re: OH NO! THE INTERNET IS RUNNING OUT OF BANDWIDTH!
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2008, 08:09:57 AM »
naku! big deal to pag nagkataon..

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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2009, 03:10:10 AM »
ang crappy nga lang pag nangyari ito..sa loob lang ng 10 years simula ng mag boom at maging madali sa mga tao ang pag access ng interwebs, bigla na lang syang magko-collapse ng ganun ganun lang..
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2009, 02:50:00 AM »
Oh crap, no more porn. :-(

Dibidi dibidi na lang bro  :-D
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2009, 11:20:47 AM »
INVESTMENTS on INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE will still be viable as long as there is a demand for the Web. Saturation of the market is a very far-fetched possibility. And even if saturation is attained, the next rallying point of investments will be maintenance and improvement of the physical infrastructure to keep pace with the bandwith competition. Doomsday? I'm thinking more of Web Heaven for us netizens - Free internet connection (like Television <except for cable channels> and Radio transmissions) and the meatier stuff -- Build your own PC and internet connection at virtually Zero Cost!

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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2010, 12:47:23 PM »
naging Technical support ako ng internet dati, tama si randymarsh the main lines for the philippines are PLDT and eastern..

as far as i understand it we (the philippines)  are lucky bec we are near the main bandwidth source of asia.. and that is singapore and hongkong.

IF.. AT&T claims that they have a problem in the internet bandwidth in the US, well we have our own life here bec.. the connection differs from the source.. distributor ang AT&T so meaning nag iinvest sila ng malaki for US. sa philippines naman internet is all over and as long as singapore and hongkong can sustain their source for the bandwidth thats ok.

hindi ko sinasabing hindi pwedeng mangyari sa pinas un, ang kwento lang ay mas complicated ang network infastructure ng US sa ASIA.

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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2010, 07:31:35 PM »
naging Technical support ako ng internet dati, tama si randymarsh the main lines for the philippines are PLDT and eastern..

as far as i understand it we (the philippines)  are lucky bec we are near the main bandwidth source of asia.. and that is singapore and hongkong.

IF.. AT&T claims that they have a problem in the internet bandwidth in the US, well we have our own life here bec.. the connection differs from the source.. distributor ang AT&T so meaning nag iinvest sila ng malaki for US. sa philippines naman internet is all over and as long as singapore and hongkong can sustain their source for the bandwidth thats ok.

hindi ko sinasabing hindi pwedeng mangyari sa pinas un, ang kwento lang ay mas complicated ang network infastructure ng US sa ASIA.

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good to hear that. at syempre naman magiinvest ang mga companies sa internet. Computer age na kaya tayo.
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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2010, 12:28:11 AM »
Malapit na bumangon ang Skynet.  It's the Rise of the Machines, baby!  John Connor, where are you? hehehe.

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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2010, 09:59:03 AM »
hmmm depletion lang naman ng ip ang problema... kasi nung unang naimbento ang internet hindi nila naisip na magiging ganito katindi yung development... kaya hindi napagisipan/maganda ang distribution ng ip addresses... so tama yung nasa taas baka 2 years na walang net... pero kung mag tutulong lahat ng pwersa nila Steve Jobs at Bill Gates sandali lang na mawawalan ng internet.. i aayos lang nila yung mode ng pag distribute ng classes ng IP address.. haha dont fret, sa time na walang internet pwede naman tayong magjamming muna!  :lol: punta sa mga bahay aliwaaaaan... heheh..  :-P
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2010, 04:52:20 PM »
hmmm depletion lang naman ng ip ang problema... kasi nung unang naimbento ang internet hindi nila naisip na magiging ganito katindi yung development... kaya hindi napagisipan/maganda ang distribution ng ip addresses... so tama yung nasa taas baka 2 years na walang net... pero kung mag tutulong lahat ng pwersa nila Steve Jobs at Bill Gates sandali lang na mawawalan ng internet.. i aayos lang nila yung mode ng pag distribute ng classes ng IP address.. haha dont fret, sa time na walang internet pwede naman tayong magjamming muna!  :lol: punta sa mga bahay aliwaaaaan... heheh..  :-P

i dont think that depletion of ip is the problem..
maraming versions ang IP address eh.. IPv8 etc..
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2010, 10:37:32 PM »
pag nawalan ng net, marami-rami ding makikinabang na mga lugar/institusyon.. nanjan yung sa POSTOFFICE. snail mail.. at ang PUBLIC LIBRARY... ahaha.. mga legal na video distributors.. p**no on public.

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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 12:31:58 PM »
Well, GeoCities is now extinct, which helps...
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