ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...

[gnarly]

[j.nikko3123]

80% - sarili kong figures. isama mo na ko sa mga hindi pumasok sa music school pero natutong mag blues nang sarili ko lang - yan ang pinupunto ko, kung marami kang kilalang marunong mag blues pero hindi nag aral music education makakabuo ka din nyan, o mas mataas pa nga diba? - kay Mr. Clapton, kung tatanggapin mo lang yung sinabe ko okay na, kaso bubutasan mo pa e tlgang hindi tayo magkakaintindihan, at hindi tayo matatapos. diba niyayaya nga kitang mag jam? o cge kahit sa lugar mo pre, dadalhin ko lahat nang gusto kong ipaintindi sayo matpos lang to hahaha, parang dito kasi hindi tayo magkakaintindihan e.

this thread seriously went way overboard

-Music is not rocket science, I think we don't have to overly justify our positions whether we went to music school or not and prove which side is better.

-Isn't it highly arrogant to say that you've learned to play the blues with just yourself,not unless you're a freaking genius,because you can't even tell you're playing the blues without someone pointing it out to you. We, as aspirants of musical knowledge are not worthy to say that we've learned on our "OWN", you can never deny the fact that you had listened,watched,and read about something that is the same material as what the folks inside the conservatory have. If you think knowledge is spoon-fed inside music schools why don't you audition for one? It's a mean world inside,you'll hate music somehow in the process.It seems that the argument of "It is not necessary to go to music school to play and be a great blues player" is just a childish affirmation to justify their skills and to separate them from the ones  they think are mediocre players,that they could have an excuse for not knowing some technical things about it.

[toshi_joovshin]

this thread seriously went way overboard

-Music is not rocket science, I think we don't have to overly justify our positions whether we went to music school or not and prove which side is better.

-Isn't it highly arrogant to say that you've learned to play the blues with just yourself,not unless you're a freaking genius,because you can't even tell you're playing the blues without someone pointing it out to you. We, as aspirants of musical knowledge are not worthy to say that we've learned on our "OWN", you can never deny the fact that you had listened,watched,and read about something that is the same material as what the folks inside the conservatory have. If you think knowledge is spoon-fed inside music schools why don't you audition for one? It's a mean world inside,you'll hate music somehow in the process.It seems that the argument of "It is not necessary to go to music school to play and be a great blues player" is just a childish affirmation to justify their skills and to separate them from the ones  they think are mediocre players,that they could have an excuse for not knowing some technical things about it.

umasa ako sa mp3 at sa tenga ko, un ang totoo, walang nagturo saken o kahit na sino, ang gusto ko lang sabihin sa post na to, hindi naman laging kelangan pumasok sa school kung gusto mong matutong mag blues, paano ung walang pera, kung meron e di good for you. -- you don't have to bash me for saying such a thing, may kanya knya tayong process kung paano matutunan ang sarili nateng music, kahit basahin mo ung unang unang reply ko sa post na to. --

rikkyricamara Quoted:

Dapat bago mag blues isang tao dumaan muna classical  kasi jan nag simula ang lahat  at may tamang pag play ng lick na alam nyo at riff in a way of dissonance and consonance note hehehe

eto reply ko:

pre wag mo iasa sa theory ang blues, 80% nang sikat na blues player hindi nag aral nang onance onance mo na yan. infact kung sino pa ung hindi nag aral nang mga yan sila pa ung legends at nagiging influences nang karamihang musicians.

at ngayon kahit ako nagtataka kung baket umabot na sa ganto kahaba. at tama ka pre, musician ako, hindi bluesician. sinabe ko yan para walang boundery pag dating sa music. sana Sir sinimulan mong basahin sa 1st page bago ka nagsalita nang ganyan para hindi ka din nalublob sa mantika. at sana matapos na to.

[j.nikko3123]

  I humbly apologize for every logical things I've said.

[toshi_joovshin]

 

[red lights]

80% - sarili kong figures. isama mo na ko sa mga hindi pumasok sa music school pero natutong mag blues nang sarili ko lang - yan ang pinupunto ko, kung marami kang kilalang marunong mag blues pero hindi nag aral music education makakabuo ka din nyan, o mas mataas pa nga diba? - kay Mr. Clapton, kung tatanggapin mo lang yung sinabe ko okay na, kaso bubutasan mo pa e tlgang hindi tayo magkakaintindihan, at hindi tayo matatapos. diba niyayaya nga kitang mag jam? o cge kahit sa lugar mo pre, dadalhin ko lahat nang gusto kong ipaintindi sayo matpos lang to hahaha, parang dito kasi hindi tayo magkakaintindihan e.

wow EB jam 

[robertshanepascual]

tamang tama yan DYS Blues jam 

[qroon]

TS, so, may nagsabi na kailangan ng music theory, then butt-hurt ka dahil hindi ka nag-theory to learn blues. Then igegeneralize mo na hindi na kakailanganing aralin? Then iba-bash mo na yung mga nagmu-music theory?

If that is the case, you are not welcome here. Yes you can quote me on that.

[fretboard]

TS, so, may nagsabi na kailangan ng music theory, then butt-hurt ka dahil hindi ka nag-theory to learn blues. Then igegeneralize mo na hindi na kakailanganing aralin? Then iba-bash mo na yung mga nagmu-music theory?

If that is the case, you are not welcome here. Yes you can quote me on that.

hehe bro qroon --->juanito name ni TS 

80% - sarili kong figures. isama mo na ko sa mga hindi pumasok sa music school pero natutong mag blues nang sarili ko lang - yan ang pinupunto ko, kung marami kang kilalang marunong mag blues pero hindi nag aral music education makakabuo ka din nyan, o mas mataas pa nga diba? - kay Mr. Clapton, kung tatanggapin mo lang yung sinabe ko okay na, kaso bubutasan mo pa e tlgang hindi tayo magkakaintindihan, at hindi tayo matatapos. diba niyayaya nga kitang mag jam? o cge kahit sa lugar mo pre, dadalhin ko lahat nang gusto kong ipaintindi sayo matpos lang to hahaha, parang dito kasi hindi tayo magkakaintindihan e.

magbibigay ka ng figure ng walang basehan? 80% asan ang stats?


eric Clapton? e binigay ko na sayo yung mga links para mabasa mo biography nya, wala ako binubutas! sadyang butas lang ang claims mo.

ano ang purpose ng jam? bakit moko niyayayang mag jam?


MY POINT!

self taught, self study  ---> kahit walang formal education sa music

ang point e nag aral parin.

 mag backread Karin.

ang music or blues hindi yan inborn na parang HININGA lang, na pagka panganak mo e pag binigyan ka gitara e bluesero kana na parang hininga lang.

kahit nga pagsasalita iminumulat sa mga infant to toddlers e para matuto sila sa pagsasalita. even simple tools like spoon and fork tinuturo yan at inaaral.

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di kaya si vai itech?

[jepbueno]

ahaha walang katapusan ito!

[mayoroadie]

ahaha walang katapusan ito!

totoo yan...para matapos, na sino kayang blusero dito ang makakagawa ng classic blues ending rift, ah riff pala.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

umasa ako sa mp3 at sa tenga ko, un ang totoo, walang nagturo saken o kahit na sino, ang gusto ko lang sabihin sa post na to, hindi naman laging kelangan pumasok sa school kung gusto mong matutong mag blues, paano ung walang pera, kung meron e di good for you. -- you don't have to bash me for saying such a thing, may kanya knya tayong process kung paano matutunan ang sarili nateng music, kahit basahin mo ung unang unang reply ko sa post na to. --

rikkyricamara Quoted:

eto reply ko:
at ngayon kahit ako nagtataka kung baket umabot na sa ganto kahaba. at tama ka pre, musician ako, hindi bluesician. sinabe ko yan para walang boundery pag dating sa music. sana Sir sinimulan mong basahin sa 1st page bago ka nagsalita nang ganyan para hindi ka din nalublob sa mantika. at sana matapos na to.

paano ung walang pera,

eto nanaman tayo eh.

[j.nikko3123]

di kaya si vai itech?

  hindi siguro, hindi pwedeng maging tunay na bluesero si Vai kasi tinuruan sya ni satch,tapos nagtuturo pa sya sa Berklee, Eh di ba ang tunay na bluesero inborn, hindi pinagaaralan.   

[toshi_joovshin]

hehe bro qroon --->juanito name ni TS 




magbibigay ka ng figure ng walang basehan? 80% asan ang stats?


eric Clapton? e binigay ko na sayo yung mga links para mabasa mo biography nya, wala ako binubutas! sadyang butas lang ang claims mo.

ano ang purpose ng jam? bakit moko niyayayang mag jam?


MY POINT!
 mag backread Karin.

ang music or blues hindi yan inborn na parang HININGA lang, na pagka panganak mo e pag binigyan ka gitara e bluesero kana na parang hininga lang.

kahit nga pagsasalita iminumulat sa mga infant to toddlers e para matuto sila sa pagsasalita. even simple tools like spoon and fork tinuturo yan at inaaral.

e pinag popost mo ko nang video e, eh di jam nalang? papagurin mo pa ko e.
ung sinasabe mo sinabe ko na yan e, naniniwala naman ako sa process, pero dapat nag abugado ka nalang kung ayaw mo nang katapusang argumento. musician ka pala pero mas pinipili mong hingan ako nang video na pagpapaguran ko pa kesa sa mag jam nalang tayo mapapanis ka pa, hahaha settled na to, sabihin mo na gusto mong sabihin, bahala ka na sa buhay mo hahaha. eto po attorney -- lol

may kanya knya tayong process kung paano matutunan ang sarili nateng music

[toshi_joovshin]

  di mo alam kung musicians ba tlga e hahaha

[toshi_joovshin]

TS, so, may nagsabi na kailangan ng music theory, then butt-hurt ka dahil hindi ka nag-theory to learn blues. Then igegeneralize mo na hindi na kakailanganing aralin? Then iba-bash mo na yung mga nagmu-music theory?

If that is the case, you are not welcome here. Yes you can quote me on that.

why not? presidente ka nang pilipinas para tanggalan ako nang freedom to speak or magbigay nang comments/opinion? sinabe ko "hindi lage" hindi ko sinabe "hindi" lang, nilagyan nya nang boundery ang blues nung sinabe nyang "dapat" ganto "dapat" ganyan ang pag-play, so basically mali ung gnagawa nila/namin na pag play kasi hindi namin gnagawa ung sinasabe nyang "dapat" ganto "dapat" ganyan?, kung theory lang walang problema, pero wag mong lahatin, gets? 

[toshi_joovshin]

Eric Clapton, Make sense? tsaka FYI - Fictional Character si August Rush pre hindi Blues Player.
ang napansin ko lang, may mali sa subject kaya kagulo tong thread na to e, ang ibig ko sabihin, hindi mo kelangan pumasok sa music school at matutong magbasa nang music sheet at magaral nang bars and notes para matuto mag blues, pag aaralan mo pa rin, pero kaya mong mag isa, like Clapton, records of current years lang ang pnapakinggan nya, tenga lang, pero ano sya ngaun? again, make sense?

FRETBOARD ung sinabe mo sinabe ko na non. kaya tumigil ka na tahan na ha? hahaha

[j.nikko3123]

You're fighting for freedom in stating your opinion yet you dissed someone's opinion. Oh the irony. 

[kebnjha]

Jimmy Hendrix is the man!! 

[robertshanepascual]

Anak ng! 

[harugrugrug]

I'm just watching.
 
Grabe na itoooo!

[fretboard]

 toshi_joovshin
 

humihingi ako video dun sa kabilang thread hindi ditto OFF TOPIC KA!

pano ako makikijam sayo e malay ko kung imbento mo lang din na multi instrumentalist ka! EDI PINAGOD MO PAKO!

we're trying to educate you and yet you keep on imposing your faux claims! you haven't nearly scratch the surface!



BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS! you arrogant ultracrepidarian

[gnarly]

to our beloved inborn bluesero string-bending-comarde-in-arms

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[kebnjha]

you gentlemen hatin' the wrong persons, as musicians we should be lovin' each other. i've read the whole conversation and may point naman kayong lahat, give way nalang po sana sa isa't isa Sirs, let each other sides speak their thoughts freely para walang away, ayaw naman siguro natin na umabot don. My advise is if someone noticed any mistake of another just let them be, bcause eventually they'll learn from it for sure.

Tosh - I think you already said well enough, and I understand what you'r trying to fill in our heads, but before things get worst, unnotify this thread now.

Peace Love People.