you gentlemen hatin' the wrong persons, as musicians we should be lovin' each other. i've read the whole conversation and may point naman kayong lahat, give way nalang po sana sa isa't isa Sirs, let each other sides speak their thoughts freely para walang away, ayaw naman siguro natin na umabot don. My advise is if someone noticed any mistake of another just let them be, bcause eventually they'll learn from it for sure.
Tosh - I think you already said well enough, and I understand what you'r trying to fill in our heads, but before things get worst, unnotify this thread now.
Peace Love People.