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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #75 on: April 23, 2015, 04:29:13 PM »
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sir, most probably kung ash siya e the same process gagawin ko, stain then laquer
or stain and poly? hehehe pero im leaning on a golden yellow stain, i think that's the
closest color of stain to achieve yung hinahabol kong kulay hehehe

hindi ko alam kung pwede mag oil tapos mag lacquer/poly. di ko trip yung mga yellow stain, mukhang may hepa yung gitara mo. try mo mag varnish pero diko alam kung durable finish yun
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #76 on: April 23, 2015, 04:39:23 PM »
hehe,

hinahabol ko kasi yung current color nung head stock hehehe
pro preserve it hehehehe, will decide later on if i'll remove the
poly on the fret board or just leave it as is, relic kuno hehehe

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« Reply #77 on: April 23, 2015, 05:05:13 PM »
hehe,

hinahabol ko kasi yung current color nung head stock hehehe
pro preserve it hehehehe, will decide later on if i'll remove the
poly on the fret board or just leave it as is, relic kuno hehehe

wag mo tanggalin yung finish nung fretboard kumakain ng libag yan  :lol: or i-refinish mo sya, wag lang bare. leave that to rosewood fretboards  :)
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #78 on: April 23, 2015, 05:08:49 PM »
copy sir! hyaan mo muna yung finish ng fret board
saka na ako decide pag natapos na yung assembly hehehe

salamat sa tulong! keep them coming!

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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #79 on: April 23, 2015, 05:57:23 PM »
Looks like Sen Ash. If it's ash, I don't think there's a need to stain.
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #80 on: April 24, 2015, 09:48:37 AM »
thanks for that info sir frree2rock

do you think i can achieve the color that showed in the fender bass
by using tung/danish oil or poly?

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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #81 on: April 25, 2015, 09:41:52 PM »
You'll probably get a darker/warmer color with oil. You should try it in an area under the pickguard and see if you like it.
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2015, 10:41:34 AM »
Sir free2rock

I alreay tried the egg white wash, i really can't say if i did it right hehe
Applying it by brush them sand 400grit in between coats. Now im on the
Stage of 600 grit sanding ay almost ready for the finishing. Upon trying the
Egg wash, i realized that the natural color of the body will be more appealing
to me than the fender picture ive shown hehehe, and im leaning on finishing
It with poly because of the durability it gives compare to oil. Am i right on
this? Hehe, i bought a pint can of konig poly urethane semi-gloss to try it on a scrap of
wood. Question is, can apply it by rag? Or do i really have to use a brush?
I,m planning to use a rag so that i can apply it thin, then build up the finish
by applying 5-6 coats with sanding in between coats. Can you give some advice on this?

Salamat ng madami sa tulong ninyo!
Hopefully makapag upload ng picture hehehe

Salamat ulit!

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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #83 on: April 27, 2015, 08:11:25 AM »
Additional questions master's!

may mabibilan ba dito satin ng mineral spirits?
or may alternative ba dun?

Thanks again!

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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #84 on: April 27, 2015, 09:07:22 AM »
Additional questions master's!

may mabibilan ba dito satin ng mineral spirits?
or may alternative ba dun?

Thanks again!

thinner lang yan  :lol:
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« Reply #85 on: April 27, 2015, 09:13:13 AM »
Sir free2rock

I alreay tried the egg white wash, i really can't say if i did it right hehe
Applying it by brush them sand 400grit in between coats. Now im on the
Stage of 600 grit sanding ay almost ready for the finishing. Upon trying the
Egg wash, i realized that the natural color of the body will be more appealing
to me than the fender picture ive shown hehehe, and im leaning on finishing
It with poly because of the durability it gives compare to oil. Am i right on
this? Hehe, i bought a pint can of konig poly urethane semi-gloss to try it on a scrap of
wood. Question is, can apply it by rag? Or do i really have to use a brush?
I,m planning to use a rag so that i can apply it thin, then build up the finish
by applying 5-6 coats with sanding in between coats. Can you give some advice on this?

Salamat ng madami sa tulong ninyo!
Hopefully makapag upload ng picture hehehe

Salamat ulit!

not sure about rag application, never ko pa na-try yun, pero kung gagawin mo yan, gamitin mo yung basahan na gawa sa retaso, yung bilog na tinitinda sa gitna ng kalye sa mga motorista. wala kasing fuzzy shiz yun, at mahirap na kapag may lint na kumapit dun sa poly (dahil sa rag na gamit mo mismo). pero kung may build up ka naman ng 5-6 coats, ok naman ang brush, basta natural hair and if possible yung medyo manipis yung tips (pero no issue naman kung hindi). 

iniisip ko parang ang nipis nung rag-applied na poly baka pag-sand mo matanggal lang  :lol: pero di ko alam yan diko pa na-try eh  :-D
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #86 on: April 27, 2015, 10:19:19 AM »
ay tlga sir pwede thinner??

sinubukan ko yung rag sang brush sir,
ok naman kinalabasan ng rag application hehehe
tntry ko yung pag tuyo apply ulit by rag,
mukhang ok naman ang kinalabsan hehehe
yun lng cgro tlgang madaming coats ang kailangan
para magbuild yung finish hehehe, pero ttry ko din rag sa 2-3 coats tapos
brush sa 4 and 5th, sinunod ko advice ninyo sa scrap muna hehehe

hopefully makapost na talaga ako ng pics hehehe

salamat ulit sir!

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« Reply #87 on: April 27, 2015, 11:19:51 AM »
ay tlga sir pwede thinner??

sinubukan ko yung rag sang brush sir,
ok naman kinalabasan ng rag application hehehe
tntry ko yung pag tuyo apply ulit by rag,
mukhang ok naman ang kinalabsan hehehe
yun lng cgro tlgang madaming coats ang kailangan
para magbuild yung finish hehehe, pero ttry ko din rag sa 2-3 coats tapos
brush sa 4 and 5th, sinunod ko advice ninyo sa scrap muna hehehe

hopefully makapost na talaga ako ng pics hehehe

salamat ulit sir!

mineral spirits = tawag sa thinner sa amerika  :lol:
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #88 on: April 27, 2015, 02:18:36 PM »
ahehehe, thanks for the info sir!!!

How about this sir? Effective kaya?
Oil based stain and finish? Nakita ko lang sa Ace kanina hehehe

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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2015, 02:31:29 PM »
ahehehe, thanks for the info sir!!!

How about this sir? Effective kaya?
Oil based stain and finish? Nakita ko lang sa Ace kanina hehehe

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12664448&cp=2568443.2568447.2624971.1254912.1305435

di ako bet dyan, though di ko alam kung pano sya gumagana, ang iniisip ko pang isang coat lang sya, unless sobrang light ng stain na magagamit mo sya to layer coats, but by then di ko sure hindi ba magiging uneven yung stain? at least pag stain and poly separately, yung colorng stain yun na yun tapos unli coats ng poly  :lol:
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #90 on: April 27, 2015, 02:38:16 PM »
good point sir! buti nalang natanong ko hehehe
muntik nang bumili, mamaya paguwi malalaman ko result
and difference ng rad and brushed poly hehehe, naka 2
coats palang sa sample wood hehehe

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« Reply #91 on: April 27, 2015, 02:46:25 PM »
good point sir! buti nalang natanong ko hehehe
muntik nang bumili, mamaya paguwi malalaman ko result
and difference ng rad and brushed poly hehehe, naka 2
coats palang sa sample wood hehehe

pabalita sa rag! curious ako sa effect nya  :)
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« Reply #92 on: April 27, 2015, 03:04:34 PM »
Copy sir, balitaan kita agad, pero nung nasample ko e mas pantay siya kysa sa brush
siguro kasi manipis ang lagay, and 1st coat nisand ko siya ng 400, pero after nitong 2nd coat
susubukan ko na wag isand hangang 4th coat to see kung may difference kung mag sand
in between rag applied coat. Yung sa brush applied definitely isand ko siya in between coats :)
eto mukhang makakapost na ako ng pictures hehehe, subok muna  :)

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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #93 on: April 27, 2015, 03:05:13 PM »
sir bakita ayaw lumabas ng pics hehehe

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« Reply #94 on: April 27, 2015, 03:23:07 PM »
sir bakita ayaw lumabas ng pics hehehe

chineck ko na lang URL. purple ba yan?  :roll:
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #95 on: April 27, 2015, 03:26:12 PM »
yup, purple dati sir, n-paint nung dating owner e

tama step ko sir sa pag post ng image d ba?

Inset image? tapos paste yung URL?

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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #96 on: April 27, 2015, 03:31:05 PM »
eto pa sample pic sir, subok lang ulit sa pag upload  :-(

trial assembly after ng 2 coats egg wash :



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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #97 on: April 27, 2015, 03:53:32 PM »
yup, purple dati sir, n-paint nung dating owner e

tama step ko sir sa pag post ng image d ba?

Inset image? tapos paste yung URL?

try mo sa photobucket, mas gumagana sya para sakin  :)

eto pa sample pic sir, subok lang ulit sa pag upload  :-(

trial assembly after ng 2 coats egg wash :




woooow ang ganda may knot!  :cute:  pano mo pala na-strip yung paint?

considering yung kulay ng wood mismo kung ako yan diretso poly! medyo weird lang kasi aged na yung fretboard, tapos mukhang masyado bago yung body. try to find a nice stain that will match the fretboard, dala ka ng scrap wood tsaka yung fretboard sa hardware  :lol: kung darker shade, personally walnut stain agad yan, or red mahogany dahil yellow yung fretboard (walnut kasi medyo nasa cool blue side)
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Re: Help! Alder Body Finish!
« Reply #98 on: April 27, 2015, 03:57:19 PM »
ayan, sinubukan ko post sa OLX hehehe

para lang mupload pictures, actually ayus lng sakin yung sa fret board sir,
kaya hindi ko din talaga tinangal yung ibang mga marks sa body
para parang relic ang dating hehehe, ittry ko yung walnut sir, iphotoshop ko hehehe

sa body ginamit ko heat gun, sa neck stripper, makapal kasi yung sa body
may paint, primer saka yung dating poly hehehe

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« Reply #99 on: April 27, 2015, 04:22:17 PM »
ayan, sinubukan ko post sa OLX hehehe

para lang mupload pictures, actually ayus lng sakin yung sa fret board sir,
kaya hindi ko din talaga tinangal yung ibang mga marks sa body
para parang relic ang dating hehehe, ittry ko yung walnut sir, iphotoshop ko hehehe

sa body ginamit ko heat gun, sa neck stripper, makapal kasi yung sa body
may paint, primer saka yung dating poly hehehe

heat gun?  :| di ako familiar sa method, so bale itatapat mo yung heat gun sa body tapos tutuklap na sya?
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