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Title: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: dark_sphynx on September 12, 2012, 11:00:10 AM
Been listening to Decyfer Down, Pillar, Demon Hunter, and other Christian Rock / Hardcore band. Just wondering if any one here already wrote songs or even band with this kind of perspective? Here in PH...
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Post by: Santo Muerte on September 15, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
Contradiction.
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Post by: Dre™ on September 17, 2012, 09:50:00 PM
try mo Battery phil band yan kasabayan nang razorback and wolfgang if im not mistaken 90's.
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Post by: metalheadz on September 19, 2012, 12:25:14 AM
I think Bought By Blood is one. Just heard it from a good friend :-D
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Post by: IncX on September 19, 2012, 02:32:36 PM
same thing as death metal except you replace the word "satan" to "jesus" ... "darkness" to "holy" ... "black" to "white"
so when you have a song by Nile entitled "Black Seeds of Vengeance" ... you can turn it into christian metal by saying its "White Fruit of Hoping" (the syllables also have to fit).
so the beatles' "come together" becomes "pray together" ...
it is easy :)
-*-
in all seriousness, i think it is rather silly and quite stupid to label a music genre based on lyrical content.
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Post by: dark_sphynx on September 19, 2012, 03:25:19 PM
I do agree with that its easy to convert but it is hard to be converted. Hehehehe
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Post by: zhej on September 20, 2012, 03:33:45 PM
eto!
Impending doom When blood comes cleansing Sleeping giant
Praise God with any form of art.
Simple lang yan, money is the root of all evil,pero depende sa pag gamit ng money. Parang music lang, kahit gano kabigat kung positivity ang pinapakita its not a problem.
That's my opinion.
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Post by: Dre™ on September 25, 2012, 01:01:56 PM
Try this one its a worship song -
Come to me by Battery
Enjoy! :wave:
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Post by: zidangeles on September 25, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
Good day and thanks for the TS for making this one!
This topic is a very important matter to us Christians lalo na sa panahon natin ngayon.
Before I start to share my thoughts about this topic, gusto ko po munang mag-excuse at mag-warn sa iba na makakabasa ng mga thoughts ko about Modern Christian Music now, even CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) which is mas alam na tawag ngayon. I hope hindi maging pangit ang kalalabasan ng thread na ito after I share mine. :-)
Ang music sa panahon natin ngayon grabe na unlike the past years. Marami nang nagbago, marami na rin tayong nakitang mga exposures ng mga satanic musics/songs (maybe some of you did if we all here are Christians), pero ang totoo nyan pati christian music today ay nado-dominate na minsan ni Satan which is hindi ganun kadaling ma-discern. Most things to consider here is the lyrics, sasabihin ng ibang artist na christian songs to dahil yung lyrics may kasamang "God", "You", "Lord", etc. which is becoming a religious thing, diba? Another thing is yung how did the arrangements of music, notes, and expression ng pagkakakanta kung tugma ba sa leading ng Holy Spirit. And even yung physical appearance or let's say yung mga characteristics nalang ng mga artists, Bible says be modest, I'm not talking about yung mga churches na kung magsuot eh sobrang banal as the world normally see, but yung pagiging decent ang pananamit at pagkilos. Marami na tinatanggap ngayon na christian songs dahil lamang sa lyrics and arrangements, pero maging mapagmatyag sa mga kilos ng mga kaaway. And of course, yung how they promote themselves or the songs, via album art, their pictures, music videos which may have hidden satanic symbols, we might not know Satan is using so-called Christian Artists to twist the Christian Music Industry, alam naman natin na si Satan ang Master Deceiver and Father of Lies, nasa Bible yan, and even Satan is using God's Word to deceit us, like Jesus' Temptation on the desert when He's fasting for 40 days and nights. Maging maingat po!
Christian Rock, I heard a lot of it and so far is 30%-40% ay walang problem and the rest do have. :wink: Christian Metal, mga 15%-20% lang ang ok na mga naririnig ko. <_< Christian Hardcore, oh no, I heard some of it and none so far na ok. :eek:
So far yun lang po muna share ko, I hope maging help at hindi ako maging kontrabida sa thread na ito. Exposure for everyone's benefits po ang pakay ko.
God Bless po! :-D
:nosebleed:
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Post by: Sherwin_xx2002 on October 02, 2012, 02:59:33 PM
I Love Christian rock... I Love Stryper! One of the Best Christian Rock Band.... :)
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Post by: thuzkee02 on October 02, 2012, 03:37:34 PM
I still bear the same opinion I have mentioned on the Christian Guitarists Thread.
Music is an avenue we can use to glorify GOD and not ourselves. We can use it as an offering. We can use it as a means to serve, evangelize and reach out to the world. Pero tama si sir Zidangeles, we must remain vigilant. I have no issues with Christian Rock music as long as we use this type of music in the right setting and appropriate crowd. But we must always guard our hearts. Guard our motives. Kasi, kahit na anong galing ng isang servant na tumugtog or kumanta, God sees the heart. If we are doing it to place ourselves on a pedestal, sablay. Do it for God.
As for heavy metal or hardcore na music AND musicians (I place emphasis to musicians as well), the style of music also denotes the message we want to convey. Generally, heavy metal exudes the feeling of ANGER and HATE so even if the message of the song is about Christ's love for us, the platter in which it was served may pose a different message.
I believe that music (in any type or form) was made to please GOD. Lucifer was a worship leader, talented in music, before he fell. That means that the knowledge bestowed upon him was originally intended to please God. Ginamit lang niya in his own wicked schemes nung binagsak siya ni Lord. That being said, I believe in "Musical Redemption", to redeem music and use it as another vessel to please GOd.
:-)
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Post by: zidangeles on October 03, 2012, 10:57:05 AM
Also agree with thuzkee02
Try to evaluate yourselves everytime na kinakanta nyo ang isang kanta (christian songs or secular, whatever it is) and check your feelings, mood, actions and thoughts kung may peace ba, joy, enlightenment or maybe vice versa. It might be an offering, praise and adoration, prayer of thanksgiving or baka naman para kang demanding na kumakanta sa Diyos or para ka nang galit at nagwawala? :-P
Mas ok parin sakin yung mga kanta dati ng Musikatha, wala pa rin pangtapat mga bagong PinoyCCM songs ngayon, hehe peace :wave:
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Post by: RedWinG on October 09, 2012, 03:17:08 AM
It's still Heavy Metal for me. Christian that is. hehehe.
I read the history of gospel music and what i read is the people back then are bored with the slow hymns and couldn't really invite other people to come to church. so they used contemporary music and replaced the lyrics with Christian content. I guess that's how gospel music came to being sort of.
Anyway, I would agree that there are certain genre that could really not that suitable sa Christian message but hey, if i works, why not di ba? so i guess it still boils down to preference din. :-D >:D
my 2 cents lang naman.
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Post by: zidangeles on October 09, 2012, 06:50:39 AM
It's still Heavy Metal for me. Christian that is. hehehe.
I read the history of gospel music and what i read is the people back then are bored with the slow hymns and couldn't really invite other people to come to church. so they used contemporary music and replaced the lyrics with Christian content. I guess that's how gospel music came to being sort of.
Anyway, I would agree that there are certain genre that could really not that suitable sa Christian message but hey, if i works, why not di ba? so i guess it still boils down to preference din. :-D >:D
my 2 cents lang naman.
If it works, I'm sure something's not right lalo na sa mga heavy metal rock. Even the worse part is yung narinig kong Christian Heavy Metal na puro scream... Oh no :eek:
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Post by: thuzkee02 on October 09, 2012, 04:29:11 PM
kaniya kaniya kasing musical preference yan. Basta ang importante, guard the heart. Guard your motive. And make sure that the message you are trying to convey is served in the appropriate manner. Psychologically speaking, music can and often times used as a channel of our emotions. Heavy metal type of music tends to convey feelings of anger and hatred. Just be careful lang mga kapatid. :)
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Post by: zidangeles on October 09, 2012, 09:52:43 PM
kaniya kaniya kasing musical preference yan. Basta ang importante, guard the heart. Guard your motive. And make sure that the message you are trying to convey is served in the appropriate manner. Psychologically speaking, music can and often times used as a channel of our emotions. Heavy metal type of music tends to convey feelings of anger and hatred. Just be careful lang mga kapatid. :)
Correct.
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Post by: jude.nash on October 10, 2012, 02:21:04 PM
basta for me any music basta depende sa message check lng yan
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Post by: fretboard on October 11, 2012, 09:52:52 AM
Good day and thanks for the TS for making this one!
This topic is a very important matter to us Christians lalo na sa panahon natin ngayon.
Before I start to share my thoughts about this topic, gusto ko po munang mag-excuse at mag-warn sa iba na makakabasa ng mga thoughts ko about Modern Christian Music now, even CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) which is mas alam na tawag ngayon. I hope hindi maging pangit ang kalalabasan ng thread na ito after I share mine. :-)
Ang music sa panahon natin ngayon grabe na unlike the past years. Marami nang nagbago, marami na rin tayong nakitang mga exposures ng mga satanic musics/songs (maybe some of you did if we all here are Christians), pero ang totoo nyan pati christian music today ay nado-dominate na minsan ni Satan which is hindi ganun kadaling ma-discern. Most things to consider here is the lyrics, sasabihin ng ibang artist na christian songs to dahil yung lyrics may kasamang "God", "You", "Lord", etc. which is becoming a religious thing, diba? Another thing is yung how did the arrangements of music, notes, and expression ng pagkakakanta kung tugma ba sa leading ng Holy Spirit. And even yung physical appearance or let's say yung mga characteristics nalang ng mga artists, Bible says be modest, I'm not talking about yung mga churches na kung magsuot eh sobrang banal as the world normally see, but yung pagiging decent ang pananamit at pagkilos. Marami na tinatanggap ngayon na christian songs dahil lamang sa lyrics and arrangements, pero maging mapagmatyag sa mga kilos ng mga kaaway. And of course, yung how they promote themselves or the songs, via album art, their pictures, music videos which may have hidden satanic symbols, we might not know Satan is using so-called Christian Artists to twist the Christian Music Industry, alam naman natin na si Satan ang Master Deceiver and Father of Lies, nasa Bible yan, and even Satan is using God's Word to deceit us, like Jesus' Temptation on the desert when He's fasting for 40 days and nights. Maging maingat po!
Christian Rock, I heard a lot of it and so far is 30%-40% ay walang problem and the rest do have. :wink: Christian Metal, mga 15%-20% lang ang ok na mga naririnig ko. <_< Christian Hardcore, oh no, I heard some of it and none so far na ok. :eek:
So far yun lang po muna share ko, I hope maging help at hindi ako maging kontrabida sa thread na ito. Exposure for everyone's benefits po ang pakay ko.
God Bless po! :-D
:nosebleed:
how'd you know?
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Post by: zidangeles on October 11, 2012, 11:26:36 AM
@fretboard
Discernment.
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Post by: fretboard on October 11, 2012, 11:41:10 AM
ok, can you please name names (bands), na under ng christian rock, christian metal, christian hardcore? name the bands narin na belongs to the 60% ng christian rock na may problem, 80% na under ng christian metal na may problem, at christian hardcore na walang ok. (well of course, yung napakinggan mo na)
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Post by: zidangeles on October 11, 2012, 12:43:25 PM
ok, can you please name names (bands), na under ng christian rock, christian metal, christian hardcore? name the bands narin na belongs to the 60% ng christian rock na may problem, 80% na under ng christian metal na may problem, at christian hardcore na walang ok.
I don't have intentions of naming them out, this might open a debate and I don't like debates as possible. If you read the bible and understand the biblical teachings and perspective about music, you can judge for yourselves what is right. Luke 12:57
But since then, I will not name it pero meron dito sa thread na nabanggit na band na qualified dito.
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Post by: fretboard on October 11, 2012, 12:51:06 PM
I don't have intentions of naming them out, this might open a debate and I don't like debates as possible. If you read the bible and understand the biblical teachings and perspective about music, you can judge for yourselves what is right. Luke 12:57
But since then, I will not name it pero meron dito sa thread na nabanggit na band na qualified dito.
who will qualify them then?
i am not here to debate as well
but howabout the names of the QUALIFIED? 40%? 20%?
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Post by: zidangeles on October 11, 2012, 12:52:34 PM
but howabout the names of the QUALIFIED? 40%? 20%?
You might not also want a debate but the others here that can also read and respond will be.
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Post by: fretboard on October 11, 2012, 01:00:15 PM
equip yourself then PM me about my queries.
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Post by: jefisipbata on October 11, 2012, 01:02:57 PM
baduy. if you're so bold stating the figures you've just posted, be brave enough to back up those statements.
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Post by: treblinkalovescene on October 11, 2012, 02:58:49 PM
Zao > Christian metal/hardcore
Kidding aside, I apply the same standards for all metal/hardcore. I mean, if you're supposed to be cool in your community because you're a Christcore band with like, a million breakdowns that's okay. It won't save you from being a bad hardcore band if you're placed within the bigger context of the music you play. To add, I doubt there are actually Christian hardcore bands here. As in bands of Christians in the hardcore scene who espouse BOTH Christianity and the ethos of hardcore punk in the context of local DIY. I mean there are bands like xLooking Forwardx that make sense to a secular person like me but then there's the whole slew of Christian metalcore bands who seem to use "hardcore" as a catchword na walang context.
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Post by: boge on October 11, 2012, 04:50:07 PM
check this band ok to mga to. rock en roll
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Post by: telemetry on January 18, 2013, 01:30:36 PM
check out this band called army of one. They are a group of Christians (2 of them are pastors) active in the scene.
www.facebook.com/armyofonemanila
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Post by: goth_thug14 on February 15, 2013, 05:11:13 PM
Cool but not for everyone, I do listen to Stryper(80's Christian Metal Band).
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Post by: CeL1916 on February 17, 2013, 12:42:35 AM
in all seriousness, i think it is rather silly and quite stupid to label a music genre based on lyrical content.
right on! and i also think it's stupid na genre na ang religion! WTF?
at di ko lang din matiis yung phrase nila na "dapat ganto dapat ganyan nasa bible yan!" ANO NGAYON?? bakit mo ibabase lahat ng kilos mo sa libro na di mo sigurado sino nagsulat!!
okay , don't want this to be another religious debate thread! pero sakin lang "Religion, leave music alone"
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Post by: fretboard on February 17, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
right on! and i also think it's stupid na genre na ang religion! WTF?
at di ko lang din matiis yung phrase nila na "dapat ganto dapat ganyan nasa bible yan!" ANO NGAYON?? bakit mo ibabase lahat ng kilos mo sa libro na di mo sigurado sino nagsulat!!
okay , don't want this to be another religious debate thread! pero sakin lang "Religion, leave music alone"
wow! :eek: sa statement mong yan, nililimitahan mo na ang freedom ng LAHAT ng manunulat ng liriko, musika, pati na rin mga makata at pintor.
inspirasyon ang tawag doon brad/madam. kahit ano pa man ang paniniwala ng isang manunulat,eskultor,pintor, musiko, makata or artist, kalayaan nila yon, na isulat kung ano ang nagbigay inspirasyon sa kanila, mapa-galit, ligaya, lungkot, kalibugan o kung ano mang emosyon na nagtulak sa kanilang gumawa ng obra maestra.
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Post by: CeL1916 on February 18, 2013, 02:20:07 AM
wow! :eek: sa statement mong yan, nililimitahan mo na ang freedom ng LAHAT ng manunulat ng liriko, musika, pati na rin mga makata at pintor.
inspirasyon ang tawag doon brad/madam. kahit ano pa man ang paniniwala ng isang manunulat,eskultor,pintor, musiko, makata or artist, kalayaan nila yon, na isulat kung ano ang nagbigay inspirasyon sa kanila, mapa-galit, ligaya, lungkot, kalibugan o kung ano mang emosyon na nagtulak sa kanilang gumawa ng obra maestra.
Genre is supposed to be the music not the lyrics! kaya talagang ang weird na may nag cacategorize na "christian music".. dati may pinapakinggan akong kanta of a certain band, trip ko yung tunog(but i forgot the band name, di ko alam christian band pala yun) tapos may nakakita sakin na pinakikinggan ko yun na "christian"(yan nga yata tawag nila sa kanila) sabi niya "ay bro! christian ka pala?" sabi ko "Hinde bro, bakit?" sabi nung dude "eh bat nakikinig ka niyan di ka pala christian?"
ano daw? see my point! ha?? pati sa music gusto nila lagyan ng division!!! :eek:
just for fun.. how about mideo cruz?(dont like the guy, pero just to prove my point) pano kung yun ang inspirasyon niya??? inspirasyon ang tawag doon brad/madam..
eh bakit nagwawala ang religious folks??? sinong naglimita?? asan ang freedom??
ok I'll change my statements "religion should leave art and music alone"
im not saying they couldn't write or draw a praise/religion song ang point ko lang malayo na ang art and music sa scope nang religion, wag pati dito pakialaman nila at pasukan ng politika nila! "ART is freedom"
Again Im Not against "Praise songs" or writing songs or doing art with "religious content" art is freedom di ako naglilimita kaya sana pag baliktad ang sitwasyon wag ding magwala ang mga bwiset na religious freaks na to dahil patas ang canvas pag dating sa art, wag hanggang dito eh nangangaral(pero ang totoo nangko-control) sila!
ban the incubus concert petition last year??? WTF!! now are you getting my point sir? peace tayo, read between the lines!mali ang pagkakaintindi mo sa post ko!!!
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Post by: fretboard on February 18, 2013, 07:11:43 AM
Dude read the whole thread and read all of my posts. :-D Then sabihin mo sakin na nangangaral ako.
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Post by: CeL1916 on February 18, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
Dude read the whole thread and read all of my posts. :-D Then sabihin mo sakin na nangangaral ako.
okay lets not make this another "debate or senseless keyboard war thread" the thread's title is ""What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?" and that is what i think/believe so sinabi ko..
you stated yours, I stated mine, that's just fair for both of us! lets move on! peace! :-D
and oh di ikaw yung sinabihan kong "nangangaral" but those religious leaders of different churches na pati hanggang sa different scopes of art eh gusto makialam.. again that's just my observation! peace..
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Post by: fretboard on February 18, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
tsk!
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Post by: samuelfianza on February 18, 2013, 03:45:50 PM
IMO some bands give bad name to both Metal/Hardcore and Christianity.
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Post by: CeL1916 on February 18, 2013, 10:10:44 PM
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Post by: bulldozer1369 on February 26, 2013, 10:36:02 AM
PINOY CHRISTIAN HARDCORE!
BOUGHT BY BLOOD
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Post by: PhosHilaron on March 19, 2013, 10:24:59 AM
mga bro - need your help: http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=288457.new#new
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Post by: mjdcrml on March 30, 2013, 01:13:51 AM
Syempre pag narinig na ng iba sasabihin demonyo daw hehe, but they don't see the message of the song, it's not on how they/we play the music, it's the heart of worship to the Lord.
CHRISTIAN METAL/HARDCORE to the END!
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Post by: rommelism on April 10, 2013, 05:23:29 PM
Just my opinion, sa music w/o the lyrics pantay pantay lang ang secular at non secular song, nagkakatalo na lang pag may lyrics na. At minsan kahit nilagyan na ng lyrics still magkakatalo naman sa testimony ng artist. Dahil hindi lahat ng lyrics na may praise or seems like godly or malinis ang lyrics pwede ng ilabel na christian artist, e.g. Creed- many considered them as a christian band but they are denying that they are christian saka yung Bamboo yung knta nila Aleluya yata yun ang gannda ng lyrics pero at parang may praise pero bakit kinalaunan nagpromote sila ng beer commercial at marami pang iba. Which most of my christian friend promotes and refer this and label these bands as christian artist. And besides there are bands that are compose of christian and non christian band member and they both shares some ideas in terms of composition and musical arrangement. So who ever prefers this type of music, better to research first the band testimony, ika nga background check muna. All types of music are created by God, it just happened that Satan perverted the music. Kahit anu genre pa yan still it will reveal what kind of inspiration have drawn the artist. Nonetheless music are created in equality for expression of our emotion, it will just depends how we will use and express it.
"Everything is permitted, but everything isn’t beneficial. Everything is permitted, but everything doesn’t build others up." 1 Corinthians 10:23 (CEB)
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Post by: Daemon Transmission on April 26, 2013, 09:04:35 AM
Id rather s u ck a [sausage] of someone with aids than listen to that bull. Seriously anything to do with that shyte I avoid like the plague. Any christians offended? Wwjd?
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Post by: fretboard on April 26, 2013, 11:15:03 AM
Id rather s u ck a [sausage] of someone with aids than listen to that bull. Seriously anything to do with that shyte I avoid like the plague. Any christians offended? Wwjd?
:-D
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Post by: Siomaiforyou on April 27, 2013, 07:28:09 PM
There is no such thing as Christian Music, Christians who happen to be musicians I would rather put it, your faith expressed in whatever influenced you may have, arranged and penned with lyrics advocating your faith, experience or values.
Saddest thing about it in many sects of christianity is they flaunt their faith by creating counter culture (Christian Music, Christian Engineer, Christian Painter, etc) and bear their chivalry like they know how to run the world whereas their very own faith teaches humility not righteous arrogance, trying to win a world by putting labels (Satanic, Demonic, worldy, etc) on anything their very faith or the quote "bible says" cliche (already stereo-typed) puts up, praying and hoping the Holy Spirit would zap the suppose to be they are witnessing to. They go witch hunting exposing subtle evil creeping in the world, while failing to see the immorality taking place in their own backyard. While they get trained and programmed in evangelization or witnessing as they are called in their Christian Language, often they fall short in realizing the suppose Lord and Saviour words of wisdom can only come from their own rank and nothing else, only those who speak their same language or act their culture are deemed spiritual or "From The Lord" and swearing in their doctrine He is all powerful and yet box up the very God they believe in in the culture they grown to embrace. If God spoke thru a donkey to Balaam in the old testament, can' t he speak thru headbangers, or beer drinking musicians in today's world? Non-conformity to worldy values, by like drinking, smoking, or dressing indecently and the alike or espousing biblical values does not equate you're Christian...Christianity is never an exact religion nor its truths exclusive to a sect, just as music is never exclusive...The church (as a congregation of believers) per se is not an authority but a student or learner of the ways of the faith. Even your own church leaders have flaws....Christians seem to forget they are still in a fallen world and they are very much a part of it just like anybody else, believers or non-believers.
No wonder the state of the world is at its worst not because there are plenty of evil around but, there are millions of Christians who misrepresent The very God they believe in...When Communist Russia was at its peak, where Christianity is forbidden and the bible outlawed, the Christians survived inspite of the restrictions because, the very core, life and essence of it was spoken not by quoting verses but translating them in their culture, via their artist, novelist, writers, poets, etc...a language the ordinary understands. Feodor Dostoevsky wrote Brothers Karamazov and other novels, there where little or no bible verses but only stories of peoples lives and how they have been portrayed by the character, you can deem their values as Christian without the suppose verses, again did God spoke here? Yet many Russians held on to Christianity thru their own countrymen's ways of commuinicating via their arts and novels or what have you.
Now in this part of the world the Philippines labelled as the Only Christian nation this side of the continent of Asia, can you say we are portraying Christianity at its best? Its ridiculous how even this forum is not spared....
Am not anti-christian nor pro its just go find the proper forum in advocating your faith. Think before you click, ...remember its not the so called outcast or the waste of society that crucified Christ its the religious legalist...
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Post by: 123kidd on June 05, 2013, 10:07:47 PM
For me?
Some of them are just gimmicks and hypocrites..
Bakit pa kelangan ng (Christian) sa genre nila?
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 06, 2013, 08:32:37 AM
IIRC - moonstar88 ininterview sila sa "zack & joey in the morning" (NU107), then napag usapan yung method of writing nila, lyrics, message ng songs etc. then joey said, so Christian rock ba kayo? the the vox answered : di naman Christian rock, siguro Christians in a rock band.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: terryBear on June 11, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
nakakaasar lang kasi pakinggan may "CHRISTIAN" tapos "ROCK"... para mong hinalo ang "Kabanalan sa Head-Bangan" ang panget ng dating... madali naman kc malaman kung songs of praise ba yan kahit walang "Christian" nakalagay.... "Have I told You Lately" covered by Rod Stewart in 1993" na naging common sa mga wedding events, was originally composed by Van Morrison, he made it after his religious convertion and obviously "it's a song of praise".. Maayos pa nga pakinggan... iba kasing Christian Rock puro ingay lang walang dating... kung para sa talaga sa DIOS yan, Aba dapat maayos naman at disente may dating at hindi barubal pakinggan..
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 12, 2013, 07:35:46 AM
nakakaasar lang kasi pakinggan may "CHRISTIAN" tapos "ROCK"... para mong hinalo ang "Kabanalan sa Head-Bangan" ang panget ng dating... madali naman kc malaman kung songs of praise ba yan kahit walang "Christian" nakalagay.... "Have I told You Lately" covered by Rod Stewart in 1993" na naging common sa mga wedding events, was originally composed by Van Morrison, he made it after his religious convertion and obviously "it's a song of praise".. Maayos pa nga pakinggan... iba kasing Christian Rock puro ingay lang walang dating... kung para sa talaga sa DIOS yan, Aba dapat maayos naman at disente may dating at hindi barubal pakinggan..
Ibig sabihin pag ROCK hindi na desente? Pag rock barubal? Pag rock puro ingay lang?
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: terryBear on June 12, 2013, 04:39:52 PM
lols naiintidihan mo ba talaga point ko? nagmumuka kang TANNGA jan sa tanong mo... naghahanap ka ng butas?
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 12, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
nakakaasar lang kasi pakinggan may "CHRISTIAN" tapos "ROCK"... para mong hinalo ang "Kabanalan sa Head-Bangan" ang panget ng dating... madali naman kc malaman kung songs of praise ba yan kahit walang "Christian" nakalagay.... "Have I told You Lately" covered by Rod Stewart in 1993" na naging common sa mga wedding events, was originally composed by Van Morrison, he made it after his religious convertion and obviously "it's a song of praise".. Maayos pa nga pakinggan... iba kasing Christian Rock puro ingay lang walang dating... kung para sa talaga sa DIOS yan, Aba dapat maayos naman at disente may dating at hindi barubal pakinggan..
eto ang title: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music? related ba to? kanina ka pa tsong. play with your barbie dolls nalang. <_<
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: tokwatoinoink on June 12, 2013, 05:02:06 PM
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 12, 2013, 05:14:56 PM
eto kasi ang topic
Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
then may nagreply
then nagtanong ako matino
then tatawagin akong tanga?
napaka Christian naman yata nun....
sana sinagot nalang yung tanong.
@ DiMarzSiao™ agreed! mickey rocks better!
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: treblinkalovescene on June 12, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
On a related note, I just realized Starflyer 59 have a Christian background.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: theweekendlover on June 12, 2013, 06:04:49 PM
Nag-extra ako dati sa Christian concert, yung bahista kasi may sakit. Eto tinugtog namin:
HIndi naman maingay pakinggan basta maganda ang tone ng gitarista... at hindi barubal ang drummer.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: free2rock on June 12, 2013, 06:21:07 PM
IMO, the "genre" Christian Rock was created so that there will be a convenient category for those rock bands with Christian backgrounds. Nagkaroon kasi ng market dun sa mga pop-culture Christians (just a tongue-in-cheek comment, walang mao-offend, ha? Ganito din ako eh :-P ) kaya masmainam na gawan ng separate category para madaling hanapin. Kasi kung musicality ang usapan, rock lahat yan. Kaso pag hinalo o sa non-christian rock, mahihirapan sila mag-browse.
IMO lang ha?
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: Siomaiforyou on June 12, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
I can agree on that statement, the genre was a by product of an era when rock was taking the music scene, Christians sort of flowed in and used it as a tool for evangelism to communicate their faith by blending in. Per se nothing wrong with expressing faith thru music, it's the labeling and making a counterpoint of judging bands contrary to their faith that resulted in religious bigotry. Thats the thing that pisses rock/metal/hardcore proponents.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: terryBear on June 13, 2013, 01:00:00 PM
What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Alam nu mga Sir... pag gumawa ka ng TANONG wag tayo aasa na iisa lang ang IDEA ng sasabihin ng lahat, at wag tau umasa na papabor lahat sa gusto nating IDEA.. my iba kasi balat Balat Sibuyas, pag nasaktan yung EGO sagot agad basta makabawi lang...
iba kasing Christian Rock puro ingay lang walang dating... kung para sa talaga sa DIOS yan, Aba dapat maayos naman at disente may dating at hindi barubal pakinggan..
wala akong Sinabing "LAHAT" sabi ko yung "IBA" puro ingay lang.... points to consider kahit mag survey ka sa ayaw at sa gusto mo, hindi talaga lahat pabor... kung meron man, yung mga kagaya nu na madaling maka appreciate sa ganyang style... Hindi naman ako tutol jan kung maganda talaga pakinggan... KASO sa ayaw at sa gusto natin kahit magsinungaling pa tayo mas dominating yung mga taong gusto Mild, Gentle pagdating sa Christian Songs... hindi naman kc sagot ko eh para ILUBOG yung paniniwala at Genre nyo, o bka naman di lang talaga kayo sanay tumanggap ng TOTOO?... sa mundo kc pag nag paka PAKA-TOTOO ka talagang may MAGAGALIT, may pumapatay pa nga.... Parang lang kung pipitsugin journalist kalang tapos magpapahayag ka ng kabal-balang nagawa ng Mayor, kahit tama sabihin umaasa ka dahil sa ginawa mo magbilang kna ng araw mo kc may magagalit...
Pasensya na dre ! fretboard... yung mga salitang gaya na TANNGA, SIRAULO , GAGGO (UP. Dictionary meaning=mahina ang ulo)... madalas nasasabi natin yan sa pang araw-araw na pamumuhay... wag na tayong magpaka PLASTIC... hindi masama gamitin yang salitang yan kung ginagamit mo ng EKSAKTO at para sa KINAUUKULAN... hindi ka nman magkakasala kung ang pinatutungkulan mong mga tao eh gaya ng ABUSAF, MILF, kasi sa MUNDO may TAO talagang mga GAGGO, SIRAULO, TANNGA, POTA, saka ka palang ibibilang ng Dios na kasalanan yan pagka ginamit mo na sa taong di dapat pag-gamitan... eh Mismong si Kristo nga kung nagbabasa k talaga ng Biblia... mismong TANNGA ginagamit nya... nasabi nya mga TANGGANG taga GALACIA... kalimutan ko lang ang verse... si PEDRO nga nag alimura=NAG MURA noong panahong tinatanong sya kung kasamhan ba siya ni Kristo... hanggang maalala nya naka 3 beses na nya palang itinatwa si Kristo, Dahil ba dun sa pagmumura Tiniwalag sya? hindi kasi naiintindihan ng Dios yun..kala ng iba buhay ni Kristo pag nagsalita na eh laging naka Smiling Face, Maamo ang Boses, laging naka Peace be with you... sa Panahon nya, Malalaking Paniniwala binabangga nya, malalaking TAO pinapatamaan nya, kahit maraming TAO sumasaway yun malakas pa ung maririnig... baka nga kung nabuhay ka sa panahon nya sabihin mong mayabang si Kristo... Common Sense nalang paganahin natin. yan talaga ang Dahilan kung bakit pinagsikapan syang PATAYIN dahil sa style ng pangangaral nya, wala syang pakialam sa EGO mo kahit matamaan ka basta mabulgar lang kagaguhaan at kasinungalingan ng malalaking tao... at yung tanong mo kc pang-giba... umamin ka man at hindi ayan talaga intensyon ng tanong mo kaya ka nasabihan ng TANNGA... anyways SORRY dre!
sakin MALAYA kayo pagTripan ako... wala nmang namamatay sa palitan ng IDEA...open minded nman ako, hindi rin iyakin.. dinaman ako siraulo... Madalas lang talaga pag sinumpong ako ng kulit naghahanap ako ng kasagutan sa nga topic na gusto ko.... ayon nman ang panget sakin..... parang nasaktan nga kayo sa Comments ko, para maka ganti kayo ako naman ang pag-tripan nyo....SORRY mga DRE kung nasaktan ko mga EGO nyo.... usapang TOTOO lang tayo..
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 13, 2013, 01:27:34 PM
:lol:
wag dito sa philmusic ikalat ang KATANGAHAN!
intindihin muna ang thread bago sumagot!
tsaka wag mong isiping nasaktan ang EGO ko? namin? malayo kapa dun totoy/ineng.
magbasa din ng rules ng forum, bago sumawsaw!
kung mga information na tina type mo dito e galing lang si WIKI or copy/pasted lang from other forum, e dapat kaya mong back-up-an
Ibig sabihin pag ROCK hindi na desente? Pag rock barubal? Pag rock puro ingay lang?
did you answer it intelligently?
Hindi!!! nag name calling ka kaagad you arrogant fetus!
tapos sasabihin mo pinagtitrippan ka dito?
di bale sana kung helpful mga posts mo.
andami mong alam! di mo naman kayang depensahan intelligently!
ULTRACREPIDARIAN
sorry sa OT MOD
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: terryBear on June 13, 2013, 01:33:53 PM
Ibig sabihin pag ROCK hindi na desente? Pag rock barubal? Pag rock puro ingay lang?
easy lang naman ang sagot jan.. wag mong lang lahatin maiintidihan mo sagot ko.. balikan mo rin yung post ko... my sinabi ba akong LAHAT? yung tanong mo kc pang palala ng gulo eh... edi sana di na ako nakipagTalo eh my ROCK din ang Genre ko
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 13, 2013, 01:52:00 PM
nakakaasar lang kasi pakinggan may "CHRISTIAN" tapos "ROCK"... para mong hinalo ang "Kabanalan sa Head-Bangan" ang panget ng dating... madali naman kc malaman kung songs of praise ba yan kahit walang "Christian" nakalagay.... "Have I told You Lately" covered by Rod Stewart in 1993" na naging common sa mga wedding events, was originally composed by Van Morrison, he made it after his religious convertion and obviously "it's a song of praise".. Maayos pa nga pakinggan... iba kasing Christian Rock puro ingay lang walang dating... kung para sa talaga sa DIOS yan, Aba dapat maayos naman at disente may dating at hindi barubal pakinggan..
eto post mo! himayin ko ha?
1. nakakaasar lang kasi pakinggan may "CHRISTIAN" tapos "ROCK"... para mong hinalo ang "Kabanalan sa Head-Bangan" ang panget ng dating.
aling banda ang tinutukoy mo na pangit ang dating? maging particular kana.
2. madali naman kc malaman kung songs of praise ba yan kahit walang "Christian" nakalagay.... "Have I told You Lately" covered by Rod Stewart in 1993" na naging common sa mga wedding events, was originally composed by Van Morrison, he made it after his religious convertion and obviously "it's a song of praise".. Maayos pa nga pakinggan...
-OFF TOPIC kana boy! eto ang thread title--->>> Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music? yan bang post mo RELATED?
3. iba kasing Christian Rock puro ingay lang walang dating... kung para sa talaga sa DIOS yan, Aba dapat maayos naman at disente may dating at hindi barubal pakinggan..
- Ibig sabihin pag ROCK hindi na desente? Pag rock barubal? Pag rock puro ingay lang? sige para lusot ka yung IBA lang na tinutukoy mo. pero sino ba mga bandang tinutukoy mo?
Ibig sabihin pag ROCK hindi na desente? Pag rock barubal? Pag rock puro ingay lang?
easy lang naman ang sagot jan.. wag mong lang lahatin maiintidihan mo sagot ko.. balikan mo rin yung post ko... my sinabi ba akong LAHAT? yung tanong mo kc pang palala ng gulo eh... edi sana di na ako nakipagTalo eh my ROCK din ang Genre ko
ano ang pampagulo dun sa tanong ko? nuclear physics ba tinanong ko? ABOUT ROCK ANG TANONG KO! at nasa rock forum ka!
ikaw ang magulo e, simpleng tanong lang naman! ANSWERABLE BY YES / NO, then lagyan ng konting paliwanag, edi karesperespeto ka sakin.
kaya lang hinaluan mo ng aroganteng sagot , e wala ka pangang pinapaliwanag!
SINONG MUKHANG TANGA NGAYON?
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: mikebled on June 13, 2013, 02:13:35 PM
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: terryBear on June 13, 2013, 02:25:33 PM
ganito nman gawin mo.. dmo kc makita tumbok ng sinasabi ko eh... stagnant ka sa idea na gusto mo lang.. lumabas ka sa madla, kahit hindi na sa mga religious group, tapos papilahin mo lahat ng tao, parinig mo ung mga trip mong songs... gawa ka ng listahan tapos tanungin mo isa-isa tapos ilista mo mga comento nila... bka nman tanungin mo ung mga dbarkads mo kaparehas ng gusto ah, self serving yan... maging transparent klang mahuhuli mo pinag ingay nating dalawa..
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on June 13, 2013, 02:35:48 PM
What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Alam nu mga Sir... pag gumawa ka ng TANONG wag tayo aasa na iisa lang ang IDEA ng sasabihin ng lahat, at wag tau umasa na papabor lahat sa gusto nating IDEA.. my iba kasi balat Balat Sibuyas, pag nasaktan yung EGO sagot agad basta makabawi lang...
iba kasing Christian Rock puro ingay lang walang dating... kung para sa talaga sa DIOS yan, Aba dapat maayos naman at disente may dating at hindi barubal pakinggan..
wala akong Sinabing "LAHAT" sabi ko yung "IBA" puro ingay lang.... points to consider kahit mag survey ka sa ayaw at sa gusto mo, hindi talaga lahat pabor... kung meron man, yung mga kagaya nu na madaling maka appreciate sa ganyang style... Hindi naman ako tutol jan kung maganda talaga pakinggan... KASO sa ayaw at sa gusto natin kahit magsinungaling pa tayo mas dominating yung mga taong gusto Mild, Gentle pagdating sa Christian Songs... hindi naman kc sagot ko eh para ILUBOG yung paniniwala at Genre nyo, o bka naman di lang talaga kayo sanay tumanggap ng TOTOO?... sa mundo kc pag nag paka PAKA-TOTOO ka talagang may MAGAGALIT, may pumapatay pa nga.... Parang lang kung pipitsugin journalist kalang tapos magpapahayag ka ng kabal-balang nagawa ng Mayor, kahit tama sabihin umaasa ka dahil sa ginawa mo magbilang kna ng araw mo kc may magagalit...
Pasensya na dre ! fretboard... yung mga salitang gaya na TANNGA, SIRAULO , GAGGO (UP. Dictionary meaning=mahina ang ulo)... madalas nasasabi natin yan sa pang araw-araw na pamumuhay... wag na tayong magpaka PLASTIC... hindi masama gamitin yang salitang yan kung ginagamit mo ng EKSAKTO at para sa KINAUUKULAN... hindi ka nman magkakasala kung ang pinatutungkulan mong mga tao eh gaya ng ABUSAF, MILF, kasi sa MUNDO may TAO talagang mga GAGGO, SIRAULO, TANNGA, POTA, saka ka palang ibibilang ng Dios na kasalanan yan pagka ginamit mo na sa taong di dapat pag-gamitan... eh Mismong si Kristo nga kung nagbabasa k talaga ng Biblia... mismong TANNGA ginagamit nya... nasabi nya mga TANGGANG taga GALACIA... kalimutan ko lang ang verse... si PEDRO nga nag alimura=NAG MURA noong panahong tinatanong sya kung kasamhan ba siya ni Kristo... hanggang maalala nya naka 3 beses na nya palang itinatwa si Kristo, Dahil ba dun sa pagmumura Tiniwalag sya? hindi kasi naiintindihan ng Dios yun..kala ng iba buhay ni Kristo pag nagsalita na eh laging naka Smiling Face, Maamo ang Boses, laging naka Peace be with you... sa Panahon nya, Malalaking Paniniwala binabangga nya, malalaking TAO pinapatamaan nya, kahit maraming TAO sumasaway yun malakas pa ung maririnig... baka nga kung nabuhay ka sa panahon nya sabihin mong mayabang si Kristo... Common Sense nalang paganahin natin. yan talaga ang Dahilan kung bakit pinagsikapan syang PATAYIN dahil sa style ng pangangaral nya, wala syang pakialam sa EGO mo kahit matamaan ka basta mabulgar lang kagaguhaan at kasinungalingan ng malalaking tao... at yung tanong mo kc pang-giba... umamin ka man at hindi ayan talaga intensyon ng tanong mo kaya ka nasabihan ng TANNGA... anyways SORRY dre!
sakin MALAYA kayo pagTripan ako... wala nmang namamatay sa palitan ng IDEA...open minded nman ako, hindi rin iyakin.. dinaman ako siraulo... Madalas lang talaga pag sinumpong ako ng kulit naghahanap ako ng kasagutan sa nga topic na gusto ko.... ayon nman ang panget sakin..... parang nasaktan nga kayo sa Comments ko, para maka ganti kayo ako naman ang pag-tripan nyo....SORRY mga DRE kung nasaktan ko mga EGO nyo.... usapang TOTOO lang tayo..
k
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: lennon12 on June 13, 2013, 02:36:34 PM
ganito nman gawin mo.. dmo kc makita tumbok ng sinasabi ko eh... stagnant ka sa idea na gusto mo lang.. lumabas ka sa madla, kahit hindi na sa mga religious group, tapos papilahin mo lahat ng tao, parinig mo ung mga trip mong songs... gawa ka ng listahan tapos tanungin mo isa-isa tapos ilista mo mga comento nila... bka nman tanungin mo ung mga dbarkads mo kaparehas ng gusto ah, self serving yan... maging transparent klang mahuhuli mo pinag ingay nating dalawa..
dapat siguro sa Blowing Section ka nagpopost eh...
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: mikebled on June 13, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
ganito nman gawin mo.. dmo kc makita tumbok ng sinasabi ko eh... stagnant ka sa idea na gusto mo lang.. lumabas ka sa madla, kahit hindi na sa mga religious group, tapos papilahin mo lahat ng tao, parinig mo ung mga trip mong songs... gawa ka ng listahan tapos tanungin mo isa-isa tapos ilista mo mga comento nila... bka nman tanungin mo ung mga dbarkads mo kaparehas ng gusto ah, self serving yan... maging transparent klang mahuhuli mo pinag ingay nating dalawa..
babaan mo dosage mo then back to topic na tayo ok? thanks for the LOLs though.
sorry MOD! last OT post ko na to.
ok guys BTT na!
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: joel_marcelo on June 13, 2013, 03:08:00 PM
ganito nman gawin mo.. dmo kc makita tumbok ng sinasabi ko eh... stagnant ka sa idea na gusto mo lang.. lumabas ka sa madla, kahit hindi na sa mga religious group, tapos papilahin mo lahat ng tao, parinig mo ung mga trip mong songs... gawa ka ng listahan tapos tanungin mo isa-isa tapos ilista mo mga comento nila... bka nman tanungin mo ung mga dbarkads mo kaparehas ng gusto ah, self serving yan... maging transparent klang mahuhuli mo pinag ingay nating dalawa..
Hoy hoy hoy. Wag mong pairalin ang kajologsan mo dito. Bakitt imbes na maghanap ka ng trabaho e inuubos mo ang pera mo sa computer shop? Pinaghihirapan kitain ng nanay mo yan tapos magdodota ka lang? Payo ko sayo, pag naguusap ang matatanda, wag kang sasabat. Magwalis walis ka sa bahay nyo para makatulong ka naman. Tsaka sir pasensha ka na, sa totoo lang din, hindi ka marunong kumanta. Totoo yun pre. Pinapakinggan mo ba sarili mo pag nirerecord mo? Malamang hindi. Napakapanget ng boses mo sir. Akala mo lang marunong ka kumanta kasi hindi ka pa nakakakita ng marunong talaga kumanta or baka sinabihan ka ng addict dyan sa inyo na anggaling mo kumanta. Naniwala ka naman. Itigil mo na yung posting style mo na ganyan dahil hindi ka uubra sa philmusic. Balik ka na sa rakista.com. Isa pa. Muka kang parrot. Peace.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: lennon12 on June 13, 2013, 03:14:29 PM
Hoy hoy hoy. Wag mong pairalin ang kajologsan mo dito. Bakitt imbes na maghanap ka ng trabaho e inuubos mo ang pera mo sa computer shop? Pinaghihirapan kitain ng nanay mo yan tapos magdodota ka lang? Payo ko sayo, pag naguusap ang matatanda, wag kang sasabat. Magwalis walis ka sa bahay nyo para makatulong ka naman. Tsaka sir pasensha ka na, sa totoo lang din, hindi ka marunong kumanta. Totoo yun pre. Pinapakinggan mo ba sarili mo pag nirerecord mo? Malamang hindi. Napakapanget ng boses mo sir. Akala mo lang marunong ka kumanta kasi hindi ka pa nakakakita ng marunong talaga kumanta or baka sinabihan ka ng addict dyan sa inyo na anggaling mo kumanta. Naniwala ka naman. Itigil mo na yung posting style mo na ganyan dahil hindi ka uubra sa philmusic. Balik ka na sa rakista.com. Isa pa. Muka kang parrot. Peace.
awtssss :lol:
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on June 13, 2013, 03:21:51 PM
Hoy hoy hoy. Wag mong pairalin ang kajologsan mo dito. Bakitt imbes na maghanap ka ng trabaho e inuubos mo ang pera mo sa computer shop? Pinaghihirapan kitain ng nanay mo yan tapos magdodota ka lang? Payo ko sayo, pag naguusap ang matatanda, wag kang sasabat. Magwalis walis ka sa bahay nyo para makatulong ka naman. Tsaka sir pasensha ka na, sa totoo lang din, hindi ka marunong kumanta. Totoo yun pre. Pinapakinggan mo ba sarili mo pag nirerecord mo? Malamang hindi. Napakapanget ng boses mo sir. Akala mo lang marunong ka kumanta kasi hindi ka pa nakakakita ng marunong talaga kumanta or baka sinabihan ka ng addict dyan sa inyo na anggaling mo kumanta. Naniwala ka naman. Itigil mo na yung posting style mo na ganyan dahil hindi ka uubra sa philmusic. Balik ka na sa rakista.com. Isa pa. Muka kang parrot. Peace.
Hoy hoy hoy. Wag mong pairalin ang kajologsan mo dito. Bakitt imbes na maghanap ka ng trabaho e inuubos mo ang pera mo sa computer shop? Pinaghihirapan kitain ng nanay mo yan tapos magdodota ka lang? Payo ko sayo, pag naguusap ang matatanda, wag kang sasabat. Magwalis walis ka sa bahay nyo para makatulong ka naman. Tsaka sir pasensha ka na, sa totoo lang din, hindi ka marunong kumanta. Totoo yun pre. Pinapakinggan mo ba sarili mo pag nirerecord mo? Malamang hindi. Napakapanget ng boses mo sir. Akala mo lang marunong ka kumanta kasi hindi ka pa nakakakita ng marunong talaga kumanta or baka sinabihan ka ng addict dyan sa inyo na anggaling mo kumanta. Naniwala ka naman. Itigil mo na yung posting style mo na ganyan dahil hindi ka uubra sa philmusic. Balik ka na sa rakista.com. Isa pa. Muka kang parrot. Peace.
ay hala!!!namaril na naman si sir joel...ang dugo mo sir joel... :-D relax lang...tsaka yung aramlite mo, nakabaril ka na naman.... hahaha...
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: gnarly on June 13, 2013, 03:35:29 PM
IMO, the "genre" Christian Rock was created so that there will be a convenient category for those rock bands with Christian backgrounds. Nagkaroon kasi ng market dun sa mga pop-culture Christians (just a tongue-in-cheek comment, walang mao-offend, ha? Ganito din ako eh :-P ) kaya masmainam na gawan ng separate category para madaling hanapin. Kasi kung musicality ang usapan, rock lahat yan. Kaso pag hinalo o sa non-christian rock, mahihirapan sila mag-browse.
IMO lang ha?
Pwede
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: badfinger on June 14, 2013, 06:58:14 PM
Religion causes more human war and misery than any other manmade cause.
True. Anyone can easily spot those who are very disrespectful to others beliefs , believing they are enlightened while others are ignorant. Most of them are fully equipped with insults and arguments.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: free2rock on June 14, 2013, 09:28:32 PM
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: badfinger on June 15, 2013, 05:27:14 PM
Typical anti Christian religion way of preaching their doctrine. It always start with this deceiving statement preparing the way to introduce evolution myth which is a doctrine hiding behind the cloak of science with the single intention of leading men to the road of godlessness.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: RedWinG on June 16, 2013, 07:24:48 AM
Typical anti Christian religion way of preaching their doctrine. It always start with this deceiving statement preparing the way to introduce evolution which is a doctrine hiding behind the cloak of science with the single intention of leading men to the road of godlessness.
ignoring the fact that the religious are the ones who contribute more to charity in the event of disasters, build schools and encourages learning, the very base of moral laws are found in the Christian doctrines, heck even science will not even exist without them.
of course, typically these are being ignored to defend their own god which is themselves.
moving on!
rock en roll na lang!!!! :-D
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Post by: badfinger on June 16, 2013, 10:45:51 AM
ignoring the fact that the religious are the ones who contribute more to charity in the event of disasters, build schools and encourages learning, the very base of moral laws are found in the Christian doctrines, heck even science will not even exist without them.
of course, typically these are being ignored to defend their own god which is themselves.
moving on!
rock en roll na lang!!!! :-D
True and yes rock in roll na lang. :wink:
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Post by: terryBear on June 16, 2013, 03:07:20 PM
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ignoring the fact that the religious are the ones who contribute more to charity in the event of disasters, build schools and encourages learning, the very base of moral laws are found in the Christian doctrines, heck even science will not even exist without them
Good Point Boss... Maiba lang ng konti, Naalala ko kc naka encounter ako mga Atheist, dadaanin ka nila sa Science na kala mo sila lang ang marurunong, my isa nagsabi kalokohan lang daw yang Bible, napa sabat tuloy ako, hanggang sa kami nagkapalitan ng Idea, nag muka akong TANNGA dahil dko alam mga Scientific terms nya, pero d nya rin nman nasagot mga tinanong ko.... sabi nya Evolution talaga Dahilan ng lahat, natanong ko, Bakit ung Amoeba Bacteria, millions of years pa prior to dinosaur's Era, bakit hanggang ngayon Amoeba parin, di man lang nagkaroon ng kahit isang paa? next napunta kami sa Ape to huMan Evolution, natanong ko rin, bakit wala atang miski anong parts & organs ng unggoy na compatible sa tao? gaya ng pwede sa kidney transplant, miski ka nga ipasalin sayo dugo ng unggoy baka dika pumayag... next napunta kami sa BigBang... natanong ko, sa buong buhay ko wala akong nakitang LAHAT ng NASABUGAN naging maayos at gumanda, reality is pinapatay nya pa lahat ng bagay na madadamay sa pagsabog? ni bago ang BigBang di nya rin nasagot... Kahit nga ung Mutation na sinasabi nila, Different Environments daw cause ng mutation, dahilan kung bakit daw tayo magka kaiba-iba ng complexions, hair colors etc.. Sabi ko nman kahit Same Environment talaga magkakaiba-iba ang tao, baka sa bahay nu nalang dimo nman kamukha lahat ng kapatid mo Same or Different Environment?... tapos sinita na kami, kc nag iinit na ung kausap ko.... na kwento ko lang.... bka dumating ang araw maka encounter kyo ng ganyan feeling Genius BARAGIN nyo...
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Post by: kym005 on June 16, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
Di ako religious person pero napabilib mo ko sir TerryBear sa arguments mo. Ok ka sakin. (http://austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/thumbsup-thumbs-up-approve-ok-smiley-emoticon.gif)
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Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on June 16, 2013, 08:19:23 PM
Good Point Boss... Maiba lang ng konti, Naalala ko kc naka encounter ako mga Atheist, dadaanin ka nila sa Science na kala mo sila lang ang marurunong, my isa nagsabi kalokohan lang daw yang Bible, napa sabat tuloy ako, hanggang sa kami nagkapalitan ng Idea, nag muka akong TANNGA dahil dko alam mga Scientific terms nya, pero d nya rin nman nasagot mga tinanong ko.... sabi nya Evolution talaga Dahilan ng lahat, natanong ko, Bakit ung Amoeba Bacteria, millions of years pa prior to dinosaur's Era, bakit hanggang ngayon Amoeba parin, di man lang nagkaroon ng kahit isang paa? next napunta kami sa Ape to huMan Evolution, natanong ko rin, bakit wala atang miski anong parts & organs ng unggoy na compatible sa tao? gaya ng pwede sa kidney transplant, miski ka nga ipasalin sayo dugo ng unggoy baka dika pumayag... next napunta kami sa BigBang... natanong ko, sa buong buhay ko wala akong nakitang LAHAT ng NASABUGAN naging maayos at gumanda, reality is pinapatay nya pa lahat ng bagay na madadamay sa pagsabog? ni bago ang BigBang di nya rin nasagot... Kahit nga ung Mutation na sinasabi nila, Different Environments daw cause ng mutation, dahilan kung bakit daw tayo magka kaiba-iba ng complexions, hair colors etc.. Sabi ko nman kahit Same Environment talaga magkakaiba-iba ang tao, baka sa bahay nu nalang dimo nman kamukha lahat ng kapatid mo Same or Different Environment?... tapos sinita na kami, kc nag iinit na ung kausap ko.... na kwento ko lang.... bka dumating ang araw maka encounter kyo ng ganyan feeling Genius BARAGIN nyo...
Di ako religious person pero napabilib mo ko sir TerryBear sa arguments mo. Ok ka sakin. (http://austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/thumbsup-thumbs-up-approve-ok-smiley-emoticon.gif)
ako din!
kaya lang., parang nawawalan ng tinta yung gamit ni sir Terry. :-D
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Post by: kym005 on June 16, 2013, 11:09:24 PM
OT: to terryBear, what do you mean by nu? I always see that in your replies and it irritates me. :lol:
txt wurds..hahahaha...lagot ka terrybear...mukhang masasabon ka na naman...
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Post by: badfinger on June 17, 2013, 07:22:17 PM
OTT
Okey lang sa akin na may genre na Christian Rock para pag may gusto makinig ng Christian lyrics in a rock song mas madali sya hanapin kesa ihalo mo sya sa Secular.
I stopped listening to it when I find it not suitable for meditation. Just sharing my personal experience which may not be true to others.
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Post by: free2rock on June 17, 2013, 08:36:27 PM
Okey lang sa akin na may genre na Christian Rock para pag may gusto makinig ng Christian lyrics in a rock song mas madali sya hanapin kesa ihalo mo sya sa Secular.
I stopped listening to it when I find it not suitable for meditation. Just sharing my personal experience which may not be true to others.
Agree. It serves a specific context at times. Some are not really designed for quiet meditation :-P
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Post by: kym005 on June 18, 2013, 12:16:17 AM
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Post by: rickbig41 on June 18, 2013, 12:17:26 AM
^ This....hahahaha,,,
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Post by: terryBear on June 18, 2013, 12:50:44 AM
Ngee! :-o ! Nga pla, D na daw maalala ni Master Bethooven password ng account nya dito, tagal narin pala syang hindi tumutugtog, busy daw sya sa work eh, d nya na nga daw maisingit halos pag mumusic nya.... pagnka luwag-luwag nlang daw ulit... Hindi ko tuloy alam kung malulungkot ako O matatawa pra sa inu dhil wla rin syang maala at nakilala sa mga famous accounts dito like, gandyDancer, lennon12, gnarly, phil_marcelo, at higit sa lahat si boss rickbig41 :wave:, d kya he's about to throw up his towel and leave the music industry na? °_°v
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Post by: gnarly on June 18, 2013, 01:17:15 AM
^ a true legend doesn't quit.they're just hiding behind the shadows.listening to the echoes of the greatness they shared to this world.
wahahaha. Pakitanong nga pre kung sino yung phil_marcelo. Baka pinsan ko.
haha! baka nga pinsan mo joel! hahaha natawa ako dun
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Post by: terryBear on June 18, 2013, 07:42:41 AM
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wahahaha. Pakitanong nga pre kung sino yung phil_marcelo. Baka pinsan ko.
Buwahahahaha Master Bethoven kc eh lakas makahawa eh.. Boss JoeL, sana matutunan nyo magpatawad ng kapwa nyo, sinikap ko nmang alalahanin kau, dipa nga lang siguro yun ang tamang panahon... >:D
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Post by: lennon12 on June 18, 2013, 07:53:57 AM
uy sir terry..
dito ka na pala tumambay..
di ako kilala nung beethoven na yun, masyado yun malupit para makilala ako...
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Post by: terryBear on June 18, 2013, 08:08:28 AM
tinatanong nya nga ako kung pano ma recover ung account nya, nasabi ko kasi sa unang message ko, "Master Bethooven, LEGEND ka pala sa PhilMusic, sikat sikat ka dun, umaalingaw-ngaw pangalan mo dun pag LeadGuitar ang pinaguusapan, ikaw ang bukang bibig nila (binanggit kong accounts)" kasama ka na dun, hehehehe kaya nga sinama na kita para kunwari kilala ka rin eh, tapos binisto mo rin sarili mo! hehehehehehe...
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Post by: rtf_axeman on June 18, 2013, 08:28:33 AM
Buwahahahaha Master Bethoven kc eh lakas makahawa eh.. Boss JoeL, sana matutunan nyo magpatawad ng kapwa nyo, sinikap ko nmang alalahanin kau, dipa nga lang siguro yun ang tamang panahon... >:D
:lol: :lol: :lol:
natawa ako dito, haha
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Post by: lennon12 on June 18, 2013, 08:47:12 AM
tinatanong nya nga ako kung pano ma recover ung account nya, nasabi ko kasi sa unang message ko, "Master Bethooven, LEGEND ka pala sa PhilMusic, sikat sikat ka dun, umaalingaw-ngaw pangalan mo dun pag LeadGuitar ang pinaguusapan, ikaw ang bukang bibig nila (binanggit kong accounts)" kasama ka na dun, hehehehe kaya nga sinama na kita para kunwari kilala ka rin eh, tapos binisto mo rin sarili mo! hehehehehehe...
sabihin mo na lang kay master beethoven na gumawa na lang ng bagong account...
ibig sabihin hindi matutuloy yung bubuuin nyong banda?
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Post by: terryBear on June 18, 2013, 09:11:28 AM
wla nman syang sinabing ganun, gawa daw ng work kya d nya maisingit pagbabanda, ang pwede lang nating asahan kay Master, eh ung sinabi nyang "Pag-naka luwag-luwag ulit"...
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Post by: lennon12 on June 18, 2013, 09:32:08 AM
ano daw ba trabaho nya?
mukha naman mayaman na sya para magtrabaho pa...
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Post by: rickbig41 on June 18, 2013, 09:59:56 AM
Uy,sir terrx,d aq makikilala nun...isang hamak na taga strum lang aq ng gitara...hehe...si senior ay isang legend...bka nga pinsan ni sir joel si phil...hehe...
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Post by: terryBear on June 18, 2013, 10:34:17 AM
d ko alam work nya, ano bang trabaho nya sa pagkaka alam nu? Made in China ba si Master? ibig ko ba sabihin, Half-chinese ba o pure chinese na dito nlng tumira at my business ba sila dito kya nu nasabing myaman na sya pra magtrabaho pa? dpat ako magtanong sa inu kc mas marami kayong alam pla..
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Post by: lennon12 on June 18, 2013, 11:09:48 AM
d ko alam work nya, ano bang trabaho nya sa pagkaka alam nu? Made in China ba si Master? ibig ko ba sabihin, Half-chinese ba o pure chinese na dito nlng tumira at my business ba sila dito kya nu nasabing myaman na sya pra magtrabaho pa? dpat ako magtanong sa inu kc mas marami kayong alam pla..
haha..
komedyante ka ah haha :lol:
ang totoo di ko talaga kilala ng personal yung si master beethoven..
napanuod ko lang yung video nya, ang lupit eh...
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Post by: rickbig41 on June 18, 2013, 11:14:03 AM
d ko alam work nya, ano bang trabaho nya sa pagkaka alam nu? Made in China ba si Master? ibig ko ba sabihin, Half-chinese ba o pure chinese na dito nlng tumira at my business ba sila dito kya nu nasabing myaman na sya pra magtrabaho pa? dpat ako magtanong sa inu kc mas marami kayong alam pla..
Friend na naman siguro kayo sir Terrybear sa fb..interviewhin mo na...kasi kami dito, wala masyadong alam sa kanya, maliban sa idol namin siya gawa ng kanyang super lupet na mga licks...kaya nga sumikat siya dito....tulad ng iba, di rin natin kilala nang personal ang isa't isa...kaya tanungin mo na sir terry..habang pinaunlakan ka na niya...sayang nang chance, tanong lang nang tanong dapat tapos share mo dito sa community para makilala natin siya ng husto... :)
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Post by: gnarly on June 18, 2013, 11:22:15 AM
Friend na naman siguro kayo sir Terrybear sa fb..interviewhin mo na...kasi kami dito, wala masyadong alam sa kanya, maliban sa idol namin siya gawa ng kanyang super lupet na mga licks...kaya nga sumikat siya dito....tulad ng iba, di rin natin kilala nang personal ang isa't isa...kaya tanungin mo na sir terry..habang pinaunlakan ka na niya...sayang nang chance, tanong lang nang tanong dapat tapos share mo dito sa community para makilala natin siya ng husto... :)
tama.i'll be sending a tv crew ha. i'll txt kuya boy abunda.
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Post by: lennon12 on June 18, 2013, 11:26:44 AM
tinatanong nya nga ako kung pano ma recover ung account nya, nasabi ko kasi sa unang message ko, "Master Bethooven, LEGEND ka pala sa PhilMusic, sikat sikat ka dun, umaalingaw-ngaw pangalan mo dun pag LeadGuitar ang pinaguusapan, ikaw ang bukang bibig nila (binanggit kong accounts)" kasama ka na dun, hehehehe kaya nga sinama na kita para kunwari kilala ka rin eh, tapos binisto mo rin sarili mo! hehehehehehe...
Panalo yung text in purple. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: terryBear on June 18, 2013, 11:58:32 AM
Add nyo rin sa FB brethren, punta kayo sa fb ko tas add nu rin sya, tatlo lang friends ko dun terrybear02@yahoo.com, kya d mhirap hanapin sya dun, kktakot kc pg ako lang taga hot-seat nya, mamaya sumapin ako nun mabuwisit ng kktanong ko laking tao p nman laging busog, kelangan andun kayo taga-awat pag naging Angry-Bird na sya...
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Post by: terryBear on June 18, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
ano kamo boss Gnarly? you'll be txting KUYA BOY, wag na tigil nlang siguro natin to. Nakaktakot nman yang kapangyarihan nyo, nkaka comatose yang mssge nu ah, wag nu nmang biglain si Master bka pati ko madamay jan, mga Friends tumawag nga kayo ng Doctor at nahihilo ako dito..
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Post by: lennon12 on June 18, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
Add nyo rin sa FB brethren, punta kayo sa fb ko tas add nu rin sya, tatlo lang friends ko dun terrybear02@yahoo.com, kya d mhirap hanapin sya dun, kktakot kc pg ako lang taga hot-seat nya, mamaya sumapin ako nun mabuwisit ng kktanong ko laking tao p nman laging busog, kelangan andun kayo taga-awat pag naging Angry-Bird na sya...
ahahaha...
lupit mo sir :lol:
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Post by: lennon12 on June 18, 2013, 12:27:33 PM
ano kamo boss Gnarly? you'll be txting KUYA BOY, wag na tigil nlang siguro natin to. Nakaktakot nman yang kapangyarihan nyo, nkaka comatose yang mssge nu ah, wag nu nmang biglain si Master bka pati ko madamay jan, mga Friends tumawag nga kayo ng Doctor at nahihilo ako dito..
baka magulat ka kapag talagang dumating si Boy Abunda sir...
marami koneksyon yang si sir Gnarly :wink:
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Post by: rickbig41 on June 18, 2013, 12:39:40 PM
Sir Gnarly, inform mo kami pag andiyan na si boy abunda...maganda to, parang bald version nang young guitar ni paul gilbert and marty friedman... :-D aabangan ko to....
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Post by: gnarly on June 18, 2013, 01:04:23 PM
Add nyo rin sa FB brethren, punta kayo sa fb ko tas add nu rin sya, tatlo lang friends ko dun terrybear02@yahoo.com, kya d mhirap hanapin sya dun, kktakot kc pg ako lang taga hot-seat nya, mamaya sumapin ako nun mabuwisit ng kktanong ko laking tao p nman laging busog, kelangan andun kayo taga-awat pag naging Angry-Bird na sya...
naku,mabilis ka pala ma-stress.paano na kapag nagto-tour na kayo?kailangan niyong pumasok sa rock and roll boot camp. tapso may mga presscon at meet and greet. haist. :oops:
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Post by: kym005 on June 18, 2013, 01:12:12 PM
naku,mabilis ka pala ma-stress.paano na kapag nagto-tour na kayo?kailangan niyong pumasok sa rock and roll boot camp. tapso may mga presscon at meet and greet. haist. :oops:
hahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: lennon12 on June 18, 2013, 01:19:53 PM
sir gnarly, di ko po ma-pm sayo..
nag-exceed na kase ko, may ganun pala sa PM..
Pm mo si rickbig, may kopya sya nung tinutukoy ko hehe :-D
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Post by: rickbig41 on June 18, 2013, 01:26:27 PM
sir Gnarly, pa send na lang ako ng email mo...exceed na rin kasi ako sa message...hehe...
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Post by: fretboard on June 19, 2013, 09:59:06 AM
Oi mga boys!
OT na!
dun sa kabila ang sakayan!
BTT: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
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Post by: bulok on June 19, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
Christian Metal? = Blasphemy!
Hindi naman yun yung nature kase ng Metal at yung hardcore(kahit hindi ako fanatic) ang alam ko na hardcore is to anarchy yung mga theme nila(yung original hardcore punk)
isipin nyo na lang si nocturno culto kumanta ng mga kanta ni gary v :idea:
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Post by: joel_marcelo on June 20, 2013, 10:21:27 AM
Buwahahahaha Master Bethoven kc eh lakas makahawa eh.. Boss JoeL, sana matutunan nyo magpatawad ng kapwa nyo, sinikap ko nmang alalahanin kau, dipa nga lang siguro yun ang tamang panahon... >:D
Ahm. Ano pong pinagsasabi nyo kuya Terry?
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Post by: lennon12 on June 20, 2013, 10:56:08 AM
Hindi naman yun yung nature kase ng Metal at yung hardcore(kahit hindi ako fanatic) ang alam ko na hardcore is to anarchy yung mga theme nila(yung original hardcore punk)
isipin nyo na lang si nocturno culto kumanta ng mga kanta ni gary v :idea:
good point sir pero
metal anarchy?
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Post by: fretboard on June 21, 2013, 09:11:58 AM
Hindi naman yun yung nature kase ng Metal at yung hardcore(kahit hindi ako fanatic) ang alam ko na hardcore is to anarchy yung mga theme nila(yung original hardcore punk)
isipin nyo na lang si nocturno culto kumanta ng mga kanta ni gary v :idea:
have you seen the docu
THE OTHER "F" WORD?
if that is the case in punk culture
then the thread is not blasphemous at all
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Post by: gandydancer123 on June 21, 2013, 01:53:32 PM
Okey lang sa akin na may genre na Christian Rock para pag may gusto makinig ng Christian lyrics in a rock song mas madali sya hanapin kesa ihalo mo sya sa Secular.
This
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Post by: bulok on June 21, 2013, 11:12:30 PM
yung hardcore punk yung tinutukoy ko jan.. yung metal, mejo siguro.. yung iba siguro.. kaya naman pinanganak ang metal dahil sa mga rebellious attitude ng mga mga musician kaya kung metal gagawing christian metal, nako ang sama.. sala sa attitude..
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Post by: bulok on June 21, 2013, 11:17:24 PM
kung christian rock walang problema pa dun pero kung metal at hardcore parang sablay IMO
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Post by: mikebled on June 22, 2013, 12:14:10 PM
Music knows no boundaries. Kaya lang may mga nag-aagree at nag-didisagree eh may kanya-kanya kasi tayong preferences. Imagine lahat tayo trip eh iisang genre lang at iisang genre lang ang nag-eexist. Life would be boring. :-)
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Post by: treblinkalovescene on June 22, 2013, 02:56:03 PM
Hindi naman yun yung nature kase ng Metal at yung hardcore(kahit hindi ako fanatic) ang alam ko na hardcore is to anarchy yung mga theme nila(yung original hardcore punk)
isipin nyo na lang si nocturno culto kumanta ng mga kanta ni gary v :idea:
Hardcore has always been idealistic. The gist of it is self-empowerment in the face of adversity. Something that doesn't keep bands like xLooking Forwardx from being both Christian and hardcore punk at the same time.
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Post by: fretboard on June 25, 2013, 09:54:13 AM
Music knows no boundaries. Kaya lang may mga nag-aagree at nag-didisagree eh may kanya-kanya kasi tayong preferences. Imagine lahat tayo trip eh iisang genre lang at iisang genre lang ang nag-eexist. Life would be boring. :-)
THIS!!!
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Post by: j-sonic on June 26, 2013, 06:32:25 AM
I think it should be uplifting, upbeat, makes you want to jump, sing, shout for joy, raise your hands, clap your hands
It doesnt make you slam dance, headbang untill you drop, push people beside you then give a peace sign, throw chairs or empty bottles in the air
I dont care what genre you call it as long as it serve its purpose
agree! dapat connected yung style ng music sa lyrics at kung anong dapat na mood ng lyrics yun din dapat yung tune ng music hindi yung porke trip mo metal at the same time christian ka, eh papatungan mo na ang metal ng mga lyrics na "i love you papa jesus, i love you mama mary" :idea:
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Post by: fretboard on June 27, 2013, 08:21:33 AM
kahit na ano pa man ang paniniwala mo... I don't think dapat limitahan ang music.
kung metal ka at gusto mong I express ang sarili mo bilang Kristyano, wala akong nakikitang mali...
music ang isang tool para mag connect ang mga tao sa tao, tao sa kalikasan, tao sa kanyang paniniwala, tao sa kanyang diyos..
wala naming nagbabawal sa mga pop artists o mga balladeer na sumulat ng satanic ballads diba?
di ako relihiyosong tao. di ko din pinopromote ang religion (never in my life)
pero kung musikero ka, at sasabihin mong GANITO DAPAT? e limitado na kaagad.
kaya nga may mga genre e tsaka sub-genre dahil hindi exclusive ang music, para sa lahat to, nasa tao na kung tatanggapin o hindi.
ang hindi ko pa naririnig na music e yung genre ng mga sarado ang isipan.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: hello_kiki on June 27, 2013, 09:14:46 AM
sa tanong na what do you think of bla blah.... natural lang na may papasok ditong taong iba sa pnanaw na gusto natin. Wala nmang masama kung ipaliwanag ng bawat isa kung ano ung pananaw, pagtingin, saloobin nya.. ska lang magiging masama yan kpag pinipwersa kna sa genre gusto nya.... may Point k nman kuya fretboard na wala nmang nagbbwal sa mga pop artist at baladder na sumulat ng satanic ballads, pero sa mundo may dapat parin tayong isa lugar.. kung halimbawa birthday ng Nanay mo tapos mala tipong satanic ang dating ng celebration nya maaring ikaw matuwa pero maaring nanay mo hindi... kasi totoo tlaga ung salitang "WALA SA LUGAR". sabi mo never in your life mong prinomote ang religion kya mlamang talaga hindi kayo mag kkasundo, kasi dun nman sa mga tao na may paki-alam sa religion may respeto yan sa paniniwala nila kya may tugtog na para sa kanila wala sa lugar... Ganyan tuloy nu lang, maganda nga yang nag kakalabasan kayo ng utak at damdamin nyo, para nagkaka alaman kung sinong may mas matimbang ng katwiran sa inyo... pero paalala lang, WALANG PILITAN SA GENRE NA GUSTO NYO, labasan lang pananaw...
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 27, 2013, 09:27:22 AM
sa tanong na what do you think of bla blah.... natural lang na may papasok ditong taong iba sa pnanaw na gusto natin. Wala nmang masama kung ipaliwanag ng bawat isa kung ano ung pananaw, pagtingin, saloobin nya.. ska lang magiging masama yan kpag pinipwersa kna sa genre gusto nya.... may Point k nman kuya fretboard na wala nmang nagbbwal sa mga pop artist at baladder na sumulat ng satanic ballads, pero sa mundo may dapat parin tayong isa lugar.. kung halimbawa birthday ng Nanay mo tapos mala tipong satanic ang dating ng celebration nya maaring ikaw matuwa pero maaring nanay mo hindi... kasi totoo tlaga ung salitang "WALA SA LUGAR". sabi mo never in your life mong prinomote ang religion kya mlamang talaga hindi kayo mag kkasundo, kasi dun nman sa mga tao na may paki-alam sa religion may respeto yan sa paniniwala nila kya may tugtog na para sa kanila wala sa lugar... Ganyan tuloy nu lang maganda nga yang nag kakalabasan kayo pananaw nyo para nagkaka alaman kung sinong may mas matimbang ng katwiran sa inyo... pero paalala lang, WALANG PILITAN SA GENRE NA GUSTO NYO, labasan lang pananaw...
hi hello kiki
read my statement again then sabihin mo sakin na may pinipilit ako na genre na gusto ko.
then basahin mo ulit yung buong thread, then sabihin mo sakin kung naiintindihan mo ang thread.
di ako relihiyosong tao. di ko din pinopromote ang religion (never in my life)
pero kung musikero ka, at sasabihin mong GANITO DAPAT? e limitado na kaagad.
kaya nga may mga genre e tsaka sub-genre dahil hindi exclusive ang music, para sa lahat to, nasa tao na kung tatanggapin o hindi.
naiintindihan mo na?
hindi exclusive ang music...
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: hello_kiki on June 27, 2013, 09:47:12 AM
freedom? kaso parang may laban parin ang tema ng paliwanag nyo hindi ba ganun ang dating sir? na prang feeling nyo sarado talaga mga utak ng mga taong hindi kaparehas ng gusto nyo? bakit di nyo nlang kaya pangalanan mga commentors dito na di nyo kapalagayan ng comments? direktahan nlang kya sir pra wlang maraming paliwanag?
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 27, 2013, 10:12:37 AM
freedom? kaso parang may laban parin ang tema ng paliwanag nyo hindi ba ganun ang dating sir? na prang feeling nyo sarado talaga mga utak ng mga taong hindi kaparehas ng gusto nyo? bakit di nyo nlang kaya pangalanan mga commentors dito na di nyo kapalagayan ng comments? direktahan nlang kya sir pra wlang maraming paliwanag?
FREEDOM!!! EFfin YES!
my statement music ang isang tool para mag connect ang mga tao sa tao, tao sa kalikasan, tao sa kanyang paniniwala, tao sa kanyang diyos..
di ako maligoy, that is why I instructed YOU (directly) to read back
then PIN down! which of my statements DICTATE others to believe what I believe.
are you saying na dapat limitado lang ang music? are you saying na dapat exclusive lang ang bawat genre?
hindi yan ang stand ko, kasi naniniwala ako sa para sa LAHAT ang music.
kung atheist ako I will write music about it if I want to, whether it is pop, metal, ballad, emo, rock, blues etc. same thing goes with Satanists and Christians. write music because it is what it is! not because people say so? FVCK those tards! pag ba sinabi ni pastor na ganito dapat STANDARD nayun? pag sinabi ni pope, ok na? pag sinabi ng supreme Satanists na ganito dapat, follow? then we're not talking about music anymore, we've crossed the road where religion rules over your MIND.
hinimay ko pa nga yung huli kong posts para SANA mas maintindihan mo. na HI pa nga ako sign of courtesy. :lol:
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: hello_kiki on June 27, 2013, 11:09:01 AM
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music ang isang tool para mag connect ang mga tao sa tao, tao sa kalikasan, tao sa kanyang paniniwala, tao sa kanyang diyos.
wala tayong pagtatalo sa menssage n yan, agree ako sayo kua FretBoard!
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kung metal ka at gusto mong I express ang sarili mo bilang Kristyano, wala akong nakikitang mali...
dito pumapasok ang kaniya-kaniyang pananaw kuya fretBoard, eto na mismo ung napapnsin kong pinagtatalunan ninyo dito, dapat my kontrol ka jan lalo na pagdating sa Usapang Religion, alam mo nman may mga taong maingat jan! Hindi lahat ng mala-RockStar na tunog na mganda sa pandinig mo at pandinig ko maganda rin sa pandinig ng iba... sa ayaw at sa gusto natin may salitang kelangan lumugar tayo, kelangan limitahan natin sarili natin, kahit nman cguro ung bobbong tao hindi mag eexpress ng feeling nya sa balwarte ni nonoy Aquino (edsa revolution) kung maka Marcos ka.. mkktay ka dun... kaya kung metal ka tapos gusto mong express na tugtugan sa christian pang Slaman at pang HeadBangan walang problema jan kung makikinig sayo kapanalig mo, pwero umasa ka na mas marami kokontra jan..
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 27, 2013, 11:32:47 AM
wala tayong pagtatalo sa menssage n yan, agree ako sayo kua FretBoard!dito pumapasok ang kaniya-kaniyang pananaw kuya fretBoard, eto na mismo ung napapnsin kong pinagtatalunan ninyo dito, dapat my kontrol ka jan lalo na pagdating sa Usapang Religion, alam mo nman may mga taong maingat jan! Hindi lahat ng mala-RockStar na tunog na mganda sa pandinig mo at pandinig ko maganda rin sa pandinig ng iba... sa ayaw at sa gusto natin may salitang kelangan lumugar tayo, kelangan limitahan natin sarili natin, kahit nman cguro ung bobbong tao hindi mag eexpress ng feeling nya sa balwarte ni nonoy Aquino (edsa revolution) kung maka Marcos ka.. mkktay ka dun... kaya kung metal ka tapos gusto mong express na tugtugan sa christian pang Slaman at pang HeadBangan walang problema jan kung makikinig sayo kapanalig mo, pwero umasa ka na mas marami kokontra jan..
now I see where you are coming from!
the thing is, naka focus ka dun sa culture and not the music itself. the thread title itself is talking about music.
What other people think of you is none of your business, Get rid of anything that isn't useful. Clutter weighs you down in many ways.
walang dapat mag dictate sayo kung ano ang tama at ano ang mali, break free from those people , mas alam pa nila sayo kung ano ang dapt mong gawin?
express yourself, you want to write a lovesong ? express it where your heart is. use MUSIC to deliver the message. hindi mo na kawalan yun kung di nila nakuha ang mensahe mo.
yung mga di naka gets ng message yun yung KOKONTRA na sinasabi mo. self righteous, judgemental, sarado!
about the Aquino marcos analogy, bad example, because in the first place may FACTION na kaagad yun
but my statement is music ang isang tool para mag connect ang mga tao sa tao, tao sa kalikasan, tao sa kanyang paniniwala, tao sa kanyang diyos..
im talking about connecting to something, at hindi detaching from something.
that is why, I requested you to read back. eventually you'll get my point.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: CeL1916 on June 27, 2013, 12:17:29 PM
then we're not talking about music anymore, we've crossed the road where religion rules over your MIND.
Eto yung point ko dati..and this exactly what i meant when i said " religion should leave music alone" We even have an argument on this, and now it turns out we're on the same side..
Haha, may be You've read it wrong before, or may be I've said it wrong, .. :-D
@hello_kiki Ang silbi ng music is to express your true self no matter what topic, if it's good for you then by all means listen to it.. Pero dont stop others from playing their kind of music just because it doesn't fit.. Nothings meant to fit in music, possibilities are endless.. Theres no rule really.. Pag sinamahan mo na ng religion( in terms of culture or imposed theme, cant think of a better term) eh talagang confusing, so enjoy the music lang as it is, malay mo nakikiheadbang si god sayo.. Or baka trip niya reggae :-D
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 27, 2013, 01:57:07 PM
Eto yung point ko dati..and this exactly what i meant when i said " religion should leave music alone" We even have an argument on this, and now it turns out we're on the same side..
Haha, may be You've read it wrong before, or may be I've said it wrong, .. :-D
@hello_kiki Ang silbi ng music is to express your true self no matter what topic, if it's good for you then by all means listen to it.. Pero dont stop others from playing their kind of music just because it doesn't fit.. Nothings meant to fit in music, possibilities are endless.. Theres no rule really.. Pag sinamahan mo na ng religion( in terms of culture or imposed theme, cant think of a better term) eh talagang confusing, so enjoy the music lang as it is, malay mo nakikiheadbang si god sayo.. Or baka trip niya reggae :-D
yup!, haha maybe. if you'll read back from page 1 been pushing about the freedom of music been questioning those self righteous know it all peeps, because I wanna know their POV.
sabi nga ni mikebled Music knows no boundaries. Kaya lang may mga nag-aagree at nag-didisagree eh may kanya-kanya kasi tayong preferences. Imagine lahat tayo trip eh iisang genre lang at iisang genre lang ang nag-eexist. Life would be boring.
kaya nga wala akong problema regarding Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music, kung meron mang ganyang genre. music nila yan e,
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on June 27, 2013, 02:25:00 PM
as a "irespeto ang nakagawiang kabanalan" forumer., it's intriguing that you stand by that handle.
:-D
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on June 27, 2013, 06:39:59 PM
Eh ayaw nyo pala sa Christian Hardcore/Rock magsi-alis kayo dito dun kayo sa Christian Pop song na nagtatalon habang kumakanta di ba parehas lang? solemn yung kanta tapos nagtatalon sabay sigaw ng praise the lord di ba dapat sinasapuso dapat yun. Ang hirap kasi sa iba napagka one sided kapag sinabing christian ganito ganyan dapat
Music is FREEDOM, Music is to express what you feel. kung ganun yung style nila para ma express yung pagmamahal nila sa panginoon let them be.
agree! dapat connected yung style ng music sa lyrics at kung anong dapat na mood ng lyrics yun din dapat yung tune ng music hindi yung porke trip mo metal at the same time christian ka, eh papatungan mo na ang metal ng mga lyrics na "i love you papa jesus, i love you mama mary" :idea:
wow just wow ang babaw mo sir nag re-reflect yung username mo sa sinabi mo have you listen to those kind genre or song?
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: kym005 on June 27, 2013, 11:54:20 PM
as a "irespeto ang nakagawiang kabanalan" forumer., it's intriguing that you stand by that handle.
:-D
[sausage] : hello_kiki :wave:
kiki : Hi [sausage]. :cute:
:lol:
BTT:
Kanya kanyang trip nga naman yan. Respeto higit sa lahat.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 28, 2013, 12:25:55 AM
Now i get it!
Sa tingin ko si terrybear at hello_kiki ay iisang tao lang! Yung may pattern sa username, pati sa pag compose ng statement. Pati dosage ng gamot alam kong pareho ang tama!
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: kym005 on June 28, 2013, 12:41:47 AM
Sa tingin ko si terrybear at hello_kiki ay iisang tao lang! Yung may pattern sa username, pati sa pag compose ng statement. Pati dosage ng gamot alam kong pareho ang tama!
Hindi natin alam ang totoong dahilan, alam mo naman sa banda may iba ibang ugali, bka kya na sabi ni Ely ang linyang "Masyado na ding malaki at marami ang expectations ng fans na mahirap nang ma-satisfy" pra ma i-divert nalang sa ibang usapan, bka myron talaga sa grupo nila nagkaka-ayawan na sa isat isa, malamang sinabi nya nlang yan para di na bumigat ang usapan... kc kung ang ipinangangamba talaga nila eh baka di na ma satisfy ang fans nila... umpisa palang siguradong naisip na nila yang PANGAMBA nilang yan bago pa sila mag kanya-kanya...
Good Point Boss... Maiba lang ng konti, Naalala ko kc naka encounter ako mga Atheist, dadaanin ka nila sa Science na kala mo sila lang ang marurunong, my isa nagsabi kalokohan lang daw yang Bible, napa sabat tuloy ako, hanggang sa kami nagkapalitan ng Idea, nag muka akong TANNGA dahil dko alam mga Scientific terms nya, pero d nya rin nman nasagot mga tinanong ko.... sabi nya Evolution talaga Dahilan ng lahat, natanong ko, Bakit ung Amoeba Bacteria, millions of years pa prior to dinosaur's Era, bakit hanggang ngayon Amoeba parin, di man lang nagkaroon ng kahit isang paa? next napunta kami sa Ape to huMan Evolution, natanong ko rin, bakit wala atang miski anong parts & organs ng unggoy na compatible sa tao? gaya ng pwede sa kidney transplant, miski ka nga ipasalin sayo dugo ng unggoy baka dika pumayag... next napunta kami sa BigBang... natanong ko, sa buong buhay ko wala akong nakitang LAHAT ng NASABUGAN naging maayos at gumanda, reality is pinapatay nya pa lahat ng bagay na madadamay sa pagsabog? ni bago ang BigBang di nya rin nasagot... Kahit nga ung Mutation na sinasabi nila, Different Environments daw cause ng mutation, dahilan kung bakit daw tayo magka kaiba-iba ng complexions, hair colors etc.. Sabi ko nman kahit Same Environment talaga magkakaiba-iba ang tao, baka sa bahay nu nalang dimo nman kamukha lahat ng kapatid mo Same or Different Environment?... tapos sinita na kami, kc nag iinit na ung kausap ko.... na kwento ko lang.... bka dumating ang araw maka encounter kyo ng ganyan feeling Genius BARAGIN nyo...
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: RedWinG on June 28, 2013, 01:08:35 AM
IMO, pwede namang lagyan ng christian imagery and themes ang music genre. di naman komo christian music eh puro praise and worship songs.
baka dyan tayo nagkakalituhan. :-P
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: hello_kiki on June 28, 2013, 02:25:08 AM
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Evidence no. 54----COLORFUL statements nila/niya
wish I were him, para nman ma experience ko yang superband nila.
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Yung may pattern sa username, pati sa pag compose ng statement
hulaan mo kung sino nanggaya? what's more interesting is the way he deliver his explanations about his belief seems like he belongs to a certain group I used to listen 7yrs ago.
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Good Point Boss... Maiba lang ng konti, Naalala ko kc naka encounter ako mga Atheist, dadaanin ka nila sa Science na kala mo sila lang ang marurunong, my isa nagsabi kalokohan lang daw yang Bible, napa sabat tuloy ako, hanggang sa kami nagkapalitan ng Idea, nag muka akong TANNGA dahil dko alam mga Scientific terms nya, pero d nya rin nman nasagot mga tinanong ko.... sabi nya Evolution talaga Dahilan ng lahat, natanong ko, Bakit ung Amoeba Bacteria, millions of years pa prior to dinosaur's Era, bakit hanggang ngayon Amoeba parin, di man lang nagkaroon ng kahit isang paa? next napunta kami sa Ape to huMan Evolution, natanong ko rin, bakit wala atang miski anong parts & organs ng unggoy na compatible sa tao? gaya ng pwede sa kidney transplant, miski ka nga ipasalin sayo dugo ng unggoy baka dika pumayag... next napunta kami sa BigBang... natanong ko, sa buong buhay ko wala akong nakitang LAHAT ng NASABUGAN naging maayos at gumanda, reality is pinapatay nya pa lahat ng bagay na madadamay sa pagsabog? ni bago ang BigBang di nya rin nasagot... Kahit nga ung Mutation na sinasabi nila, Different Environments daw cause ng mutation, dahilan kung bakit daw tayo magka kaiba-iba ng complexions, hair colors etc.. Sabi ko nman kahit Same Environment talaga magkakaiba-iba ang tao, baka sa bahay nu nalang dimo nman kamukha lahat ng kapatid mo Same or Different Environment?... tapos sinita na kami, kc nag iinit na ung kausap ko.... na kwento ko lang.... bka dumating ang araw maka encounter kyo ng ganyan feeling Genius BARAGIN nyo
yung dating ng reasonings nya dito kaparehas ng pinakikinggan ko dati.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on June 28, 2013, 08:29:02 AM
Sa tingin ko si terrybear at hello_kiki ay iisang tao lang! Yung may pattern sa username, pati sa pag compose ng statement. Pati dosage ng gamot alam kong pareho ang tama!
ang "Bear" at yung kinuhaan ng Hello_kiki ay "Hello Kitty".....
stuff toy ang mga yun...
malamang mahilig sila sa malambot..
at mahilig makipagtalo kapag bibliya/relihiyon/pananaw ang topic...
well..
tuloy lang :|
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: rickbig41 on June 28, 2013, 09:07:18 AM
Ituloy ang ligaya...wag putulin ang bangayan...
Basta paglabas sa thread na to peace tayo mga sir... Hayaan na lng natin yung mga two face...sila lng din naman ang mahihirapan nyan...
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: hello_kiki on June 28, 2013, 01:08:54 PM
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ang "Bear" at yung kinuhaan ng Hello_kiki ay "Hello Kitty"
Oh nga connected kuya lennon pwede:wink:
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Ituloy ang ligaya...wag putulin ang bangayan...
Basta paglabas sa thread na to peace tayo mga sir... Hayaan na lng natin yung mga two face...sila lng din naman ang mahihirapan nyan...
Correct!
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: lennon12 on June 28, 2013, 01:13:20 PM
sayang terry...habang nandun ka sana sa thread gumagawa na kami ng magandang usapan para sayo...sinayang mo talaga, tama si sir lennon... kung dinerederetso mo lang sana, malapit ka na eh... humihinog ka na sana dun... from birubiruan sana, turning into a real one na yung thread mo...nilipat na nga ng mods sa wanted musician...sayang...willing pa naman si sir lennon ipa experience sayo ang maging rockstar... :-D
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: gnarly on June 29, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
Sa tingin ko si terrybear at hello_kiki ay iisang tao lang! Yung may pattern sa username, pati sa pag compose ng statement. Pati dosage ng gamot alam kong pareho ang tama!
:lol: huli agad.
I am typing this message with tears on my eyes. Kung totoo man ito terry, parang pinaramdam mo ang sakit na ginawa ng isang anak sa isang magulang, ang talikuran. ang dami ko pa namang plano para sa iyo. ang sama ng kalooban ko.dadalhin ko itong sakit hanggang sa hukay ko. :cry:
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on June 29, 2013, 10:10:21 PM
I am typing this message with tears on my eyes. Kung totoo man ito terry, parang pinaramdam mo ang sakit na ginawa ng isang anak sa isang magulang, ang talikuran. ang dami ko pa namang plano para sa iyo. ang sama ng kalooban ko.dadalhin ko itong sakit hanggang sa hukay ko. :cry:
ipagpalagay mo muna ang iyong kalooban, papayaot magbabalik loob si sir terry saiyong piling...
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: hello_kiki on June 29, 2013, 11:13:25 PM
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I am typing this message with tears on my eyes. Kung totoo man ito terry, parang pinaramdam mo ang sakit na ginawa ng isang anak sa isang magulang, ang talikuran. ang dami ko pa namang plano para sa iyo. ang sama ng kalooban ko.dadalhin ko itong sakit hanggang sa hukay ko.
Wow nakaka inggit naman kuya gnarly, never I have encountered such kinda love and kindness to his would be talents, with matching instant parental feelings, ang sweeeeet nyo mga kuya. salamat po mga kuya hehehehe :cute:
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: rickbig41 on June 30, 2013, 12:02:58 AM
Wow nakaka inggit naman kuya gnarly, never I have encountered such kinda love and kindness to his would be talents, with matching instant parental feelings, ang sweeeeet nyo mga kuya. salamat po mga kuya hehehehe :cute:
uy...andiyan ka pala... :) late ka na nag reply...hinahanap ka din ni Sir Gnarly... he wants you to be in his soon to be talents... we are very happy to see you again...kala namin mawawala ka na lang bigla eh..., uy, OT na tayo masyado bossing, back to the topic na... baka ma warningan tayo dito ng mods...
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: CeL1916 on June 30, 2013, 07:06:41 AM
OT: Si terry ba talaga yan, parang troll eh, or si terry ay troll talaga simula palang..
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: badfinger on June 30, 2013, 08:45:02 AM
Guys when we say " Music knows no boundaries" I think we are also talking here about freedom,since it's a form of expression. I fully agree, no questions about it. We can freely write what we want to, play it to whatever type of music we like.
But there is no such thing as "absolute freedom". Ones freedom stops when it steps over another persons freedom. Para bang may kalayaan kang mag segarilyo hanggat gusto mo pero wag kang maninigarilyo dito sa bakuran ko dahil tulad sa yo, I also have the freedom to breathe fresh air and protect my family from the ill effects of smoking.
So, if Christian rock music is acceptable in one denomination, it's okay. If one wants to listen to it, no problemo, but don't feel bad if in one church it is not acceptable.
As I said I stopped listening to it because I cannot meditate God's goodness to me anymore. The beat,the riffs keep ringing in my ears and I find it hard to pray.. This is my personal experience and it might not be true to others. :wink:
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: lennon12 on July 01, 2013, 07:16:06 AM
Guys when we say " Music knows no boundaries" I think we are also talking here about freedom,since it's a form of expression. I fully agree, no questions about it. We can freely write what we want to, play it to whatever type of music we like.
But there is no such thing as "absolute freedom". Ones freedom stops when it steps over another persons freedom. Para bang may kalayaan kang mag segarilyo hanggat gusto mo pero wag kang maninigarilyo dito sa bakuran ko dahil tulad sa yo, I also have the freedom to breathe fresh air and protect my family from the ill effects of smoking.
So, if Christian rock music is acceptable in one denomination, it's okay. If one wants to listen to it, no problemo, but don't feel bad if in one church it is not acceptable.
As I said I stopped listening to it because I cannot meditate God's goodness to me anymore. The beat,the riffs keep ringing in my ears and I find it hard to pray.. This is my personal experience and it might not be true to others. :wink:
got your point...... a GOOD POINT! :)
pero ang pinupunto ko dun sa unang argument e ang boundlessness ng music.
walang mag lilimita sayong tao,
nagbigay ka sample about smoking, I salute you for that, pero wag kakalimutan na ang RELIGION din ay hindi para sa lahat.
pero kung pag uusapan e self expression. (well excuse me di ako ganun ka kristyano)
halimbawa lang gusto kong mag worship, dahil ba sabi nung pastor ko na "nakaka distract ka" e stop na ko?
or sinabi ni pope na, ganitong way ng music blah bla blah, or utos ni punong ministro na eto ang standard.... ewan hehehe.
punto ko lang naman, if I was given the gift of heavy metal music by the Supreme Being, bakit di ko yun gamitin to worship Him?
bakit kailangang limitahin ang GIFT na alam nating boundless?
anyways--->
What other people think of me is none of my business. What other people think of you is none of your business.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: Xelly on July 05, 2013, 11:17:10 AM
bakit kailangang limitahin ang GIFT na alam nating boundless?
Lilimitahan natin yung GIFT natin kung alam natin na distraction na ito sa iba. Kaya tayo tumutugtog sa church/community dahil we serve God. Paano tayo nagseserve? Thru our talent, nabibigyan natin yung church/community ng good quality music para makapagworship sila. Good quality ibig sabihin malinis ka tumugtog, nasa tono vocals, nasa beat ang drums, sakto arrangement etc. para di sila madistract at makapagfocus sa worship.
To simplify, when you worship God, ikaw bahala. Pero when you serve God, kalimutan mo na yung personal preference mo. :-)
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on July 05, 2013, 11:34:06 AM
Agree bro. Yung paraan mo ng pagworship is between you and your God. Ikaw na bahala kung anong music gusto mo.
Pero...
Yup bro. :-)
Lilimitahan natin yung GIFT natin kung alam natin na distraction na ito sa iba. Kaya tayo tumutugtog sa church/community dahil we serve God. Paano tayo nagseserve? Thru our talent, nabibigyan natin yung church/community ng good quality music para makapagworship sila. Good quality ibig sabihin malinis ka tumugtog, nasa tono vocals, nasa beat ang drums, sakto arrangement etc. para di sila madistract at makapagfocus sa worship.
To simplify, when you worship God, ikaw bahala. Pero when you serve God, kalimutan mo na yung personal preference mo. :-)
very good point :)
di ako against dyan, I think kaya lumayo ang discussion kasi pinapasok sa fellowship or sa context ng congregation ang Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music.
pero if we'll focus on the INTENTION of the composer or the artists, (whatever it is) IMHO labas na religion dun, dahil di naman religion ang sagot sa salvation.
kaya ako nag excuse kanina kasi di ako taga church or religious hehehe,
but trust me hehehe my parents planted something in me about my spirituality so YES I believe in GOD.
kaya ko pinupunto ang boundlessness ng MUSIC, dahil ang religion nga ay hindi para sa lahat.
1 more thing, hehehe walang pastor, pope or minister ang magbabawal SA AKIN, or pipigil sakin kung pano ko gustong mag worship... that is just me. when im in a congregation, I am one with them of course. ( I usually pray with my family, or by myself)
because I believe hindi limitado sa religion ang paniniwala ko, same goes with my music.
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Post by: Xelly on July 05, 2013, 11:54:39 AM
^^ Aprub! :-D
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Post by: fretboard on July 05, 2013, 01:21:34 PM
apir! :lol:
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Post by: drazenjake on July 05, 2013, 11:50:23 PM
ano bang sikat na christian rock? hindi ko pa ata napakinggan ang genre na yan hehe :-D
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Post by: guitarcrasher on July 06, 2013, 12:00:32 AM
Let me share din. Extreme din ako sa music. To say main influence ng palying style ko si Mr. John Petrucci. Way back before nung hindi pa ako active sa music puro ako lead, which maingay sa iba hehehe. Then nung lumalim relasyon ko kay Lord through the worship ministry, he taught me that I have to balance everything-if others are being inspired to worship God through this kind/type of music, play that. No same genre fits different congregation, everyone has different tastes especially in music. So as a musician, I was inspired to expound my capability to adopt to other styles of music in order to be an effective minister to others. Its true that when you alone is the one who worship God, He won't care what style of song would you use, all that He's after is your heart-if it really desires His presence.... :)
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Post by: guitarcrasher on July 06, 2013, 12:02:40 AM
ano bang sikat na christian rock? hindi ko pa ata napakinggan ang genre na yan hehe :-D
Marami brother, like skillet specially their song rebirthing & whispers in the dark. We have many bro, check this online radio website: Christianrock.net.
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Post by: badfinger on July 06, 2013, 08:21:57 PM
pero kung pag uusapan e self expression. (well excuse me di ako ganun ka kristyano)
halimbawa lang gusto kong mag worship, dahil ba sabi nung pastor ko na "nakaka distract ka" e stop na ko?
Hi bro :wink:
Sa alam ko meron kasing at least tatlong uri ng worship.
1. Personal worship(alone and usually meditation), 2. Family worship (usually done everyday with the family) 3. Congregational (usually in church or fellowship meetings)
Now, If you can experience true personal worship playing with heavy metal, no one is stopping you from doing that. Walang paki alam ang iba don, karapatan mo yon, freedom of expression applies.
Sa family worship if ok lang ng pamilya mo no problemo amigo! Pero pag may ayaw dapat natin irespeto.
At sa congregational worship, kailangan na rin natin irespesto ang mga kapwa believer natin KUNG nakaka distract nga sa kanila ang music na gusto mong tugtugin, kahit hindi sabihin ng ministro o pastor. Hindi lang kasi ikaw ang nagpunta sa church para mag worship.
Pero pag may congregation na tanggap ang musika mo,go ahead amigo.
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Post by: fretboard on July 06, 2013, 10:59:36 PM
Sa alam ko meron kasing at least tatlong uri ng worship.
1. Personal worship(alone and usually meditation), 2. Family worship (usually done everyday with the family) 3. Congregational (usually in church or fellowship meetings)
Now, If you can experience true personal worship playing with heavy metal, no one is stopping you from doing that. Walang paki alam ang iba don, karapatan mo yon, freedom of expression applies.
Sa family worship if ok lang ng pamilya mo no problemo amigo! Pero pag may ayaw dapat natin irespeto.
At sa congregational worship, kailangan na rin natin irespesto ang mga kapwa believer natin KUNG nakaka distract nga sa kanila ang music na gusto mong tugtugin, kahit hindi sabihin ng ministro o pastor. Hindi lang kasi ikaw ang nagpunta sa church para mag worship.
Pero pag may congregation na tanggap ang musika mo,go ahead amigo.
Hmmmmm missed my point, oh well. Carry on :)
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Post by: RedWinG on July 06, 2013, 11:18:12 PM
IMO. if there some sort of Woodstock-ish event na puro Christian themed ang music, i'd go there and play metal, core, rock or any of it's sub genre.
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Post by: --randz-- on July 09, 2013, 09:29:53 AM
Mga sir pasali po...
Topic: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Share ko lang way back year 2000, yung officemate ko na "Born Again Christian" ay galit na galit sa mga maiingay na tugtog, (metalica, megadeth, sepultura) basta yung maiingay para sa kanya.. at yung "Eagles" daw na band pag daw pag pinakinggan mo yung casette tape na naka "back mask" e mala-demonyo yung lyrics. Imagine, kinukumpiska pa daw nya yung mga casette tapes ng mga student nya. Ang labo po ano? Ang sabi naman namin bakit ka bibili ng tape kung baligtad mong pakikinggan.. e yung cd pag binaligtad mo di tutunog, :-D
Eto po tanong ko : San po nagmula or sino po ang nag-create ng Christian Rock, Metal and Hardcore? E eto pong taong to ay galit sa mga metal na tugtugan.
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Post by: Xelly on July 09, 2013, 09:40:43 AM
Topic: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Share ko lang way back year 2000, yung officemate ko na "Born Again Christian" ay galit na galit sa mga maiingay na tugtog, (metalica, megadeth, sepultura) basta yung maiingay para sa kanya.. at yung "Eagles" daw na band pag daw pag pinakinggan mo yung casette tape na naka "back mask" e mala-demonyo yung lyrics. Imagine, kinukumpiska pa daw nya yung mga casette tapes ng mga student nya. Ang labo po ano? Ang sabi naman namin bakit ka bibili ng tape kung baligtad mong pakikinggan.. e yung cd pag binaligtad mo di tutunog, :-D
Eto po tanong ko : San po nagmula or sino po ang nag-create ng Christian Rock, Metal and Hardcore? E eto pong taong to ay galit sa mga metal na tugtugan.
Topic: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Share ko lang way back year 2000, yung officemate ko na "Born Again Christian" ay galit na galit sa mga maiingay na tugtog, (metalica, megadeth, sepultura) basta yung maiingay para sa kanya.. at yung "Eagles" daw na band pag daw pag pinakinggan mo yung casette tape na naka "back mask" e mala-demonyo yung lyrics. Imagine, kinukumpiska pa daw nya yung mga casette tapes ng mga student nya. Ang labo po ano? Ang sabi naman namin bakit ka bibili ng tape kung baligtad mong pakikinggan.. e yung cd pag binaligtad mo di tutunog, :-D
Eto po tanong ko : San po nagmula or sino po ang nag-create ng Christian Rock, Metal and Hardcore? E eto pong taong to ay galit sa mga metal na tugtugan.
Pero sa tanong mo na yan, sa tingin ko yung idea ay nagsimula sa mga rock/metal/hardcore musicians na Christian.
agreed
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Post by: --randz-- on July 09, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
nagtataka lang ako na bakit ayaw nya nang ganung tugtugan .. e meron namang christian rock o metal.. ibig sabihin ba nun e ayaw nya ng christian rock.. o baka hindi nya alam na merong ganun. :x
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Post by: fretboard on July 09, 2013, 10:10:01 AM
nagtataka lang ako na bakit ayaw nya nang ganung tugtugan .. e meron namang christian rock o metal.. ibig sabihin ba nun e ayaw nya ng christian rock.. o baka hindi nya alam na merong ganun. :x
hmmmm siguro di pa bukas ang isipan nya sa ganung kultura, OR SARADO talaga sya mag isip.
backread ka sir, may mga issues pointed out na same sa case ng kilala mo.
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Post by: Xelly on July 09, 2013, 10:59:32 AM
What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
I think it's great. Period. :-)
Tama!
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Post by: jhrawr6 on July 13, 2013, 02:20:21 PM
What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
* its not about the genre. mapa rock man yan oh metal oh RAP, its about the who sings heartedly .
agree bah? khet anu klaseng music pa yan ., nasa taong kakanta o gagawa ng kanta
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Post by: Siomaiforyou on July 13, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
In regards to how that genre surfaced, If you'd go back through modern music history, rock was streamed out from blues, and from there metal, punk, thrash and so on branched from that genre. How "Christian" was added IMO seems to have been purportedly placed to distinguished from the common themes of rock, metal, hardcore, etc.. of which during its infancy moral society dubbed it as rebel, satanic, anarchaic or what have you. I remember back then the back masking and the devil music expose during the 80's. Certain religious groups burned Hotel California records in a rally deeming them as Satanically inspired as they point out a personality in the album pictures of Anton Lavey founder of the First Church of Satan. Inspite of the protest rock continued to flourish and patronized by the youth. Religious protest seems to have backfired so instead a counter culture seems to had been the likely more an alternative in the cliche thought "if you can't win 'em join 'em"....If they can't stop it might as well sound like them but with a different theme...thus the birth of the Christian on the genre playing a different theme but sound otherwise....
Technically, sound-wise there seems to be no distinction, its only on the theme. Its like a donut having holes, flavor wise makes the difference to make a twist out of it for whatever taste that suits the listener.
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Post by: ebacoids on July 13, 2013, 08:30:21 PM
Hello po mga fellow musicians. First of all, gusto ko lang sabihin na lahat ng mga ideas na pinost dito ay may sense at maganda ang insight. Sabi nga nila "Any intellectual discourse is good because it stimulates the mind by posing valid questions and proposes some answers"
In regards dun sa thread title na "What do you think of Christian Rock and etc?" my response is this: Okay lang kung ganun mo I profess yung faith mo. And if for some, mas na bbless sila kapag sa ganitong form or genre nila nakukuha yung word ni God, then thats okay. Pero ang concern lang siguro is in the larger circle of christianity. Kasi ang christianity and christians has been stereo typed or type classed as clean, malinis, maganda, maayos, decente, proper, walang tattoo, di umiinom, dapat may standards ka na sinusundan and to some extent conservative. Lalo na dito sa pilipinas na hindi pa ganun ka liberated christians ang mga tao. Siguro in the larger circle of christianity hindi pa ganun ka open ang tao to that certain type of rock. Yung metal or hardcore or punk. Mayroon sigurong iba na nakikinig ng ganun, pero generally (stereo type na of christians to, and in regards to my experience with my churchmates), mas mellow or mas magaan sa tenga pakinggan.
Ang iniisip ko naman ay kung mas makakalapit sila na mga tao na nakikinig na sa ganun type ng music by incorporating christian messages to their somewhat metal or hardcore music, then thats good. Kasi Music is an avenue for change. Sa buong history ng mundo, andaming kanta na nakapag bago ng utak ng mga tao.
Thanks for reading :)
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Post by: fretboard on July 16, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
ang gaganda po ng mga sinabi nyo
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Post by: badfinger on July 18, 2013, 01:52:47 PM
Good Point Boss... Maiba lang ng konti, Naalala ko kc naka encounter ako mga Atheist, dadaanin ka nila sa Science na kala mo sila lang ang marurunong, my isa nagsabi kalokohan lang daw yang Bible, napa sabat tuloy ako, hanggang sa kami nagkapalitan ng Idea, nag muka akong TANNGA dahil dko alam mga Scientific terms nya, pero d nya rin nman nasagot mga tinanong ko....
next napunta kami sa Ape to huMan Evolution, natanong ko rin, bakit wala atang miski anong parts & organs ng unggoy na compatible sa tao? gaya ng pwede sa kidney transplant, miski ka nga ipasalin sayo dugo ng unggoy baka dika pumayag...
Pa OT.. share ko lng..
1 Cor. 15: 39
All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beast, another of fishes and another of birds.
Acts 17:26
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the Earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation.
Kaya hindi nga talaga pwede transplant and blood transfusion between human and monkeys/ apes. Pero pag tao sa tao kahit negro pa man o Arabo pwede, Dutsch to Pilipino, arab to Italian .. :wink:
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Post by: badfinger on July 18, 2013, 02:35:49 PM
Good Point Boss... Maiba lang ng konti, Naalala ko kc naka encounter ako mga Atheist, dadaanin ka nila sa Science na kala mo sila lang ang marurunong, my isa nagsabi kalokohan lang daw yang Bible, napa sabat tuloy ako, hanggang sa kami nagkapalitan ng Idea, nag muka akong TANNGA dahil dko alam mga Scientific terms nya, pero d nya rin nman nasagot mga tinanong ko.... sabi nya Evolution talaga Dahilan ng lahat, natanong ko, Bakit ung Amoeba Bacteria, millions of years pa prior to dinosaur's Era, bakit hanggang ngayon Amoeba parin, di man lang nagkaroon ng kahit isang paa? next napunta kami sa Ape to huMan Evolution, natanong ko rin, bakit wala atang miski anong parts & organs ng unggoy na compatible sa tao? gaya ng pwede sa kidney transplant, miski ka nga ipasalin sayo dugo ng unggoy baka dika pumayag... next napunta kami sa BigBang... natanong ko, sa buong buhay ko wala akong nakitang LAHAT ng NASABUGAN naging maayos at gumanda, reality is pinapatay nya pa lahat ng bagay na madadamay sa pagsabog? ni bago ang BigBang di nya rin nasagot... Kahit nga ung Mutation na sinasabi nila, Different Environments daw cause ng mutation, dahilan kung bakit daw tayo magka kaiba-iba ng complexions, hair colors etc.. Sabi ko nman kahit Same Environment talaga magkakaiba-iba ang tao, baka sa bahay nu nalang dimo nman kamukha lahat ng kapatid mo Same or Different Environment?... tapos sinita na kami, kc nag iinit na ung kausap ko.... na kwento ko lang.... bka dumating ang araw maka encounter kyo ng ganyan feeling Genius BARAGIN nyo...
It is like having an abridge dictionary as a result of explosion from a factory. It takes too much faith to believe the evolution myth.
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Post by: ron_rd57 on July 30, 2013, 01:13:41 AM
right on! and i also think it's stupid na genre na ang religion! WTF?
at di ko lang din matiis yung phrase nila na "dapat ganto dapat ganyan nasa bible yan!" ANO NGAYON?? bakit mo ibabase lahat ng kilos mo sa libro na di mo sigurado sino nagsulat!!
okay , don't want this to be another religious debate thread! pero sakin lang "Religion, leave music alone"
actually kaya naman ngkaroon ng Christian rock or ccm is because some music lovers na mananampalataya they love rock music and they want to glorify God at the same time pero syempre in this world we have people who are so legalistic, legalistic christians na nagumpisa pagtawag o to judge a song as a devil music...There is no such things as devil music.....
may mga ngsasabi hardcore music makes a person to violent to kill, rnb makes a person horny this is actually a dumb statement, kahit sabhin mo pang aggressive music ung pinapakingan mo... a persons actions depends on himself/herself and who is ruling you...If you surrendered your Life to God you are led by the spirit.. maybe some of you sasabihin na I just brought these up to justify wrong doing of listening to secular music... there is nothing wrong with listening to secular music, meron ba sa Bible cnasabi patungkol d2?... yup may mga bagay ndi sinabi sa Bible directly pero ndi natin kaylangan gawin katulad ng pagbibisyo at mga pinagbabawal na gamot... pero cnasabi sa Bible we should take good care of our bodies because this body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, so we should avoid those kinds of things that will abuse and destroy our health... but to music meron ba? sabi nga ng isang Pastor, there is no such thing as devil's music, ungodly dress, demonic car, etc. it depends on who's ruling you...
so what about Christian Rock, Christian Hardcore? there is nothing wrong with it.... mas okay nga to e dba? Christ believers expressing himself/herself through his/her preferred genre... Actually sa internet marami mga Christians or "legalistic small minded christians" and naninira ng kapwa Christians.. na cnasabi nila sa CCM artist not of God, illuminati, or satanic roots of Christian rock, etc... actually this is one of the attitudes our Lord Jesus opposed in His time are the legalistic attitude...ung mga pharisees those times... pero sad to say a lot of Christians are like that these days :-( :-( Christ hate legalism!
cyempre ung mga ganitong tugtugin common sense nalang should not be played in a sunday worship environment... cguro sa youth or christian concerts or gigs pwede kasi pag sunday we have different folks in the Church, worship songs for sunday must be music that will bring all people together to worship God... :) :) :)
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Post by: h3adrock3r on July 30, 2013, 02:07:59 PM
"What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?"
it's a heart issue...
at the end of the day, whatever you did or choose.. naglorify ba si God?
:-D
for me, God owns everything. It's just that it has been corrupted by the enemy.
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Post by: mayok on July 30, 2013, 08:08:45 PM
kung pakikinggan ko ok lang lahat naman music pinapakingan ko. kung tutugtugin sa church hindi pwede di masasakyan ng lolo at lola ko yan.
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Post by: fretboard on July 30, 2013, 09:42:50 PM
Well if your lolo and lola told you that Im sorry, they were wrong.
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Post by: mayok on July 30, 2013, 11:26:04 PM
CHRISTIAN Rock / Metal / Hardcore MUSIC pang kristyano na musika at lyrics pang church ang gamit. wrong kaagad?
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Post by: UNIVERSAL_MODERATOR on July 30, 2013, 11:49:44 PM
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right on! and i also think it's stupid na genre na ang religion! WTF?
at di ko lang din matiis yung phrase nila na "dapat ganto dapat ganyan nasa bible yan!" ANO NGAYON?? bakit mo ibabase lahat ng kilos mo sa libro na di mo sigurado sino nagsulat!!
okay , don't want this to be another religious debate thread! pero sakin lang "Religion, leave music alone"
Halatang Alergic sa usapang ganyan... isang MALAKING dahilan jan, ayaw nilang nalilimitahan sila sa mga gusto nilang gawain, nakakasakal nga naman diba?... LOLS... Ang ang katotohonan ang iba ayaw napaguusapan yan, o kung di nman ang iba parang naririndi pag ganyan ang topic... Ayan ang totoo kahit i deny nyo pa ng todo yan...
kala nya siguro ang Biblia iisang tao lang nagsulat... LOLS, para my IDEA ka narin na hindi kalokohan yan eto info...
Ang Biblia pinagsama-samang mga libro na yan na isinulat ng ibat ibang tao sa ibat-ibang panahon, ilan sa kanila, Mangingisda, Magsasaka, Abogado, Doktor, Propeta, mga Hari, mga Apostol kahuli hulian...
Karamihan sa mga batas ng na alam ng TAO ngayon, sa mga isinulat pa nga nila galing kamo...mapa Moral kahit usapang Science pa..
1: wag kang sisiping sa babae sa panahon ng kanyan karumalan "or regla" (wala pang matinong Science noon na magpapaliwanag side effects nyan, inunahan na sila ng Biblia ) 2: maghugas ng kamay bago kumain (kaya nga pinulaan si kristo ng kalaban nila kasi mga apostol nya kumain di man lang naghugas ng kamay bago kumain... batas na kasi kanila yan dati pa) 3: bago duamting panahon ni Columbus, ang paniwala ng tao flat ang mundo (4000+ yrs ago bago pa panahon ni columbus sinasaysay na ng Biblia na ang Mundo ay BILOG) "book of JOB" 4: kalokohan ba UNICORN? siguro kapag paliwanag ng bobong scientist papaniwlaan mo di marunong mag imbestiga.. (pero ung Unicorn na sinasabi sa Bible Unicornis=Rhinoceros yan talaga yan, kaso gusto ng iba kabayong my sungay at papak eh) 5: kaya na kaya ipaliwanag ng Science noon kung bakit kinailangan ng ipagbawal ang PagAasawa sa pinakamalapit na Kamag Anak? 6: 4000yrs ago... inutos kay abraham tuliin ang sanggol sa ika-8 mula sa araw ng kapanganakan.... bakit kaya sa 8th days... ano bang especial sa araw na yan? 1950's lang nadiscover na sa ikawalong araw ang the best na pagtutuli sa buhay ng lalake... yan ang sabi ng experto, hindi ako my sabi.... DUDA? basahin nyo... https://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=13&article=1118 napaka eksakto ng Biblia sa sinasabi nya 4000yrs ago vs 1950's 7: My pakinabang ba Appendix sa Tao? tinutulan ng mga nagmamarunong sa Science yan, kaya mga Doktor dati kasama ng tinatanggal nila ang Appendix kapag my abdominal surgeries sila... ( tao nga naman marunong sa sarili nya... ayaw maniwala sa kasabihang lahat ng bagay my dahilan) kelan lang nadiskubre sa medical Science ang purpose ng Appendix... DUDA? basahin nyo ulit http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-is-the-function-of-t
hindi ako relihiyosong tao, dirin ako nagsisimba... ang Biblia matagal ng pinagtatalunan yan kung kalokohan ba o hindi yan... hindi naman palaging Hiwaga ang nababasa jan... ang iba jan kelangan marunong kalang mag imbestiga para masabi mong totoo yan...yung dating kabaduyan sakin naging interesante sakin... natutunan ko dapat marunong karin mag imbestiga at magtanong, wag karin papadala sa mga Preacher sa panahon ngayon... na ang ginagawa puro kwento nalang na pag tinanong mo sa Biblia bakit ganito bakit ganun ang isasagot sayo eh (masama yan nagdududa ka sa alagad ng Dios.... LOLS ingat kayo sa mga ganyan dahil lang walang alam isagot kaya tatakutin kna..... magaling lang dumaldal sa stage mag isa... at mag pa kwento-kwento) si Kristo na ang nagsabi 2000yrs ago.... bago magpasimula ang panahon ng kawakasan.... maraming lilitaw na mga bulaang Guro at ililigaw ang marami.... eksaktong eksakto sa panahon ngayon.... napakaraming mga religion nagsusulputan.... bakit? malakas kasi pagka kitaan yan eh...
TANONG: bakit kaya pinasulat yan? maraming dahilan..... *kasi tao ang gagamit nyan, maintindihan kya ng tao yan kung unggoy gagawa nyan... *pinasulat yan para sa panahong darating... hanggang sa dumating satin *pinasulat sa tao yan para mas kapani paniwala... kasi kung bigla nalang lumitaw yan sa mundo edi mas Lalong walang maniniwala jan. * ano pa? bka kayo may alam pang dahilan dagdag nyo nalang dito....
lahat ng bagay may katapusan, may limitasyon nalalaman ng tao yan.... sa MUSIKA dapat malaya ka..... (tama sa isang banda)... kaso ang dulo parin kahit ang MUSIKA may limitasyon din....
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: Xelly on July 31, 2013, 12:18:21 AM
@ Mayok & Fretboard Solve yung point ninyong dalawa. Solve ako dun sa Christian = church dahil church = community. As Christians we grow in faith sa community kasi. And Solve din ako na hindi ibig sabihin na Christian music ay pangchurch na. Marami kasing secular Christian music sa ngayon. :-)
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Post by: UNIVERSAL_MODERATOR on July 31, 2013, 12:36:30 AM
pag sinabing kasing Christian Rock hindi naman pwede i etchepwera mo ang ang salitang church... sa kanila ugat nyan eh.. kaso tama rin hindi pang inside the church lang ang Christian Rock... pwede naman kasi gumawa ng christian songs na pang masa at pang radyo... diko lang alam kung ang iba ata dapat sa sekta lang nila pinapatugtog... pero kung about sa Jehova kakantahin mo eh mabuti sa samahan o sekta ka nalang tumugtog kc... my ibang samahan hindi Jehova tawag, my iba Yahweeh, mayroon pa nga Yawooh...dipa kasama jan yung Allah... eh my mga budista pa.. at marami pang iba..
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: mayok on July 31, 2013, 12:50:54 AM
SECULAR Christian music =meaning ? outside the body of Christ? ung church nga. parang contradiction ung term kasi christian music must be used inside the body of Christ.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: crouchdash on July 31, 2013, 12:57:35 AM
What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music? -Way back in college days early 90's siguro there was an album called "the rock stomps here" i forgot the artist na, we covered some of their songs which were hymns turned to rock genre. Back then mejo conservative pa yung church namin, ayun we were really despised and questioned on our morality :), but it opened the door for the younger generations to express themselves more freely, so I guess isa kami sa catalyst ng Rock sa church. :)
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Post by: Xelly on July 31, 2013, 06:59:40 AM
SECULAR Christian music =meaning ? outside the body of Christ? ung church nga. parang contradiction ung term kasi christian music must be used inside the body of Christ.
Example bro is yung With Arms Wide Open by Creed. Sobrang secular (meaning pinapatugtog sa radio, alam ng mga tao Christian man o hindi) ng song na yan pero hindi naman siya ginagamit sa church. Pero pwede naman siya gamitin sa church hindi nga lang siya ginagamit talaga sa church. :-)
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Post by: mayok on July 31, 2013, 09:42:28 AM
kung hindi ginagamit sa loob ng katawan ng Panginoon Hesu Kristo hindi pwede ilagay ang ang tag na " christian music ". pwede siguro" religious rock/metal/hardcore music."
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: fretboard on July 31, 2013, 11:47:59 AM
kung hindi ginagamit sa loob ng katawan ng Panginoon Hesu Kristo hindi pwede ilagay ang ang tag na " christian music ". pwede siguro" religious rock/metal/hardcore music."
read back!
this thread was originally POSTED in rock and roll thread, where people do not preach! we were talking about music and faith, and how we see music as a Christian this is not about your religion! this is not about your church! this is not about your lolo and lola!
please do some back reading!
and the thread's very clear Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
since wala na to sa rock and roll thread, IM OUT!
thanks xelly!
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Post by: mayok on July 31, 2013, 04:22:23 PM
:) sir peace. we were talking exactly about music and faith, and how we see music as a Christian= followers of Christ. and we are in the Gospel and Praise forum . so an avenue for religious music thought and in this topic about, "What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?" and my thought if it is not use inside the church it should not be called Christian music . pwede siguro" spiritual rock/metal/hardcore music."
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Post by: Xelly on July 31, 2013, 08:18:07 PM
:) sir peace. we were talking exactly about music and faith, and how we see music as a Christian= followers of Christ. and we are in the Gospel and Praise forum . so an avenue for religious music thought and in this topic about, "What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?" and my thought if it is not use inside the church it should not be called Christian music . pwede siguro" spiritual rock/metal/hardcore music."
Walang problema bro I respect your stand. :-)
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: kdrexr on August 01, 2013, 02:45:15 AM
Wow nice thread
lets see.. IMO/for me..
What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Ayos na ayos! :D
My playlist goes like this:
When medidating, praying, praise and worship:
hillsong, planetshakers, casting crowns, matt redman, chris tomlin, bethel music and many more.
When having a good mood and would like to relax:
sanctus real, kutless, mercyme, david crowder, newsboys, seventh day slumber, and many more.
When under temptation of the enemy/ battle of the spirit and flesh:
red, decyfer down, disciple, demon hunter, oh sleeper, phinehas, etc.
God Bless Bros/Sis
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: UNIVERSAL_MODERATOR on August 01, 2013, 11:44:32 AM
Christian Rock
Tanong: saka lang ba ako nagiging Christian pag nasa loob ako ng Church? kaya dapat ba for church lang ang Christian Rock?
habang tumatakbo ang panahon mas lalong dumarami ang taong hindi nagkaka interes sa Dios, naagaw kasi ng ibat ibang interes gaya ng, mas masarap tumambay sa Tropa, mas masarap dumiskarte sa crush mo, mas masarap gumimik, inuman with workmates, online games..
ang laging takbo ng tao sa sarili nya hindi naman patuwid eh... kung paano mas yayaman pa, ma popromote s trabaho, paano magkakaroon ng bagay na gusto nila... alam lang nila my Dios, hanggang dun lang, pero ung interes sa mga gawain pang DIOS patay na patay (parang ako)...
Hindi ba mas-dapat pa ngang ilabas ang Christian Songs? para naambunan din ang mga tao at nakakapag isip-isip sa kababuyang nagagawa nila?... pwede namang gumawa ng kanta ung tipong napapa isip yung tao sa masamang gawain nya.. wag mo lang idamay pangalan ng religion mo pag ggwa ka ng ganung songs...
Yung kanta ni Bassilyo=Lord Ptawad? maganda meaning ng kanta, kaso ang Baho lang ng Music Video... hindi sya rock... pero pwede nman maging ganun pag sa Christian Rock diba? siguro wag lang tipo ng Christian Rock na pang Head-Bangan tulakan at nagiging wild na taga pakinig mo.. parang babuyan at bastusan na kc pag ganun...
Pero wag naman ilalabas mo pa yung mga songs of praise dedicated para s religion mo at dedicated lang pag tuwing sunday.... iba na kasi yun....
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: RedWinG on August 01, 2013, 11:48:55 PM
if Jesus Himself is sitting in the front row of a concert where people can play their music, i would play the Hallelujah chorus with a Metal rendition.
King David danced when he was able to retrieve the Ark of the Covenant and for some, he looked like a fool. if the Spirit in you tells you to play the music of your preference to express your faith, walang problema yun. if your church limits you from doing what the Spirits commands you, eh medyo pagisipan natin kung ano bang church yan.
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Post by: kimpoy19 on August 07, 2013, 09:47:40 PM
i would like to share my opinions about hard or metal christian songs.
If you remember the song Healer which was in Hillsong? it is a powerful song that may lead you to extreme and high soul of worship. At the end, the singer/composer (forgot the name) is not telling the truth about himself, that his a cancer survivor, In the other hand he repent.
while Brian Welch is a former lead guitarist of Korn that turned to be christian still plays hard/metal music but if you see how he worship and delivers the message of truth is reflected in him.
Therefore, for me type of music is just a part. the very important is how the Holy Spirit lives in you and your desire to share the message of salvations.
God speed! Live a life for God.
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Post by: ron_rd57 on August 07, 2013, 10:41:20 PM
i would like to share my opinions about hard or metal christian songs.
If you remember the song Healer which was in Hillsong? it is a powerful song that may lead you to extreme and high soul of worship. At the end, the singer/composer (forgot the name) is not telling the truth about himself, that his a cancer survivor, In the other hand he repent.
while Brian Welch is a former lead guitarist of Korn that turned to be christian still plays hard/metal music but if you see how he worship and delivers the message of truth is reflected in him.
Therefore, for me type of music is just a part. the very important is how the Holy Spirit lives in you and your desire to share the message of salvations.
God speed! Live a life for God.
TAMA! :) :) saka eto maganda article galing kay Ptr Ed Lapiz
Ang daming MYTHS about Christians: "ANG CHRISTIAN, hindi kumakain nito, hindi umiinom noon, hindi mahilig sa ganitong activity, hindi nakikinig sa ganung music, hindi nanonood ng ganitong cine, hindi nagsusuot ng ganitong damit, etc. etc."
SINO ANG MAY SABI???
Most of those are just personal opinions or preferences. WALANG IISANG CHRISTIAN TYPE OR PROTOTYPE. As many as there are Christians, there will be many types, tastes, degrees of spiritual maturity, outlooks, preferences, etc. It is oppressive to make everyone fit into one straightjacket designed by a few who try to Lord it over everyone else.
God is not a God of sameness but a God of variety. Instead of saying "Ang Christian, hindi kumakain ng ganito" just say "AKO, hindi kumakain ng ganyan kasi conviction ko." HUWAG I-IMPOSE SA IBA ANG PANINIWALA O PREFERENCE mo. Dyan nakakasakal ang ilang Christians. Gusto lahat sumunod sa style nila.
If they are a Christian metal na kahit na ung vocalist ng growl or scream.. it is still skill that came from God... saka hardcore music is very uplifting...makes me agressive at work, I even listen to it sa mga gym workouts ko.. :-D as a Believer of Christ we must to be agressive in life, sa Matthew 11:12, Kingdom of God is forcefully advancing.. so we to must advance and be agressive in life... :-D listening to this kind of music, really makes me motivated not to quit but to face challenges in life... :) :)
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: kdrexr on August 08, 2013, 12:41:33 AM
sir kimpoy19 and sir ron_rd57
"salute" very good point po :-D
God Bless
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: Rageworx on August 10, 2013, 01:22:41 PM
My input lang...
How do we Christians reach out to "metal" music listeners... It's with metal-sounding Gospel music. It's an avenue wherein they would relate to and they would have this idea na "meron palang ganun". Same goes with the Hip-hop (Rap), Ska, and other genres of Gospel music. Music is universal, what matters is yung message that we convey thru those that we play... :-D
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Post by: kimpoy19 on August 10, 2013, 03:19:32 PM
yeah...
As long as our heart is filled with the love of GOD, strengthened by our faith in Jesus Christ and our desire is to follow the great commission ok na ok yung. But syempre, we must put our music in proper places. :)
GOD BLESS. Pray to God for the revelations. :)
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Post by: ozborne on August 14, 2013, 02:30:49 PM
opinion ku lang doon sa mga tumutugtog ng ganitong genre " kung gusto natin mag play ng heavy rock play it loud and proud ipakita na natin ang galing at talento sa ating instrumento. Pero huwag nang gamitin ang katagang Christian metal. para sa akin it is just heavy metal. :cool:
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: kulitdavao on August 14, 2013, 03:49:03 PM
Para sa akin walang problema. Expression yun ng Banda or Artist. Banda sila in the first place.
Hardcore? Ok lang yun. Make it sure na galingan nila ang pagka gawa ng kanta. Ayusin ang letra at areglo.
Kung sa Diyos nila iniaalay ang kanta dapat The Best kahit na ano pang Genre.
2 cents lang po
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: Jhoseph on August 26, 2013, 06:29:08 PM
All I can say is :
Christian Rock music? -- hmmm. Bantayan ang buhay ng mga nagpapatronize ng Christian rock music throughout their earthly lives. If they grew deep, strong and faithful to the Lord as they grow old despite severe trials, pain and testing without giving up, and if their lives bears fruit that is according to God's wod, and if their lives became channel of blessings to others - not a stumbling block... then its OK for me 100%!!!!
Satan is a master of disguise. He can appear to us like an angel in angel clothings. No wonder he can lead people astray into believing that we still follow God thru the Christian music by polluting its true escence by incorporating the Christian rock music into our church.
He can disguise Christian Rock music to induce his influence into our Christian life. How well can we say that we are strong against his viles and deceptions and remain true to God while indulging ourselves into earthly cravings for music that is tainted with Satanic melodies? God will be the judge, our conscience will be the witness.
Baka di natin namamalayan e yung iba pala sa mga Christian musicians ay Christian Rock star pag Sundays, pero during weekdays nakikinig na pala at avid fans ng mga Rock Stars tulad ni Curt Cobain, Queen, LED Zepellin and many more dahil nga inspirations nila ang Rock music.
Baka rin yung ibang mga Christian Rock music na tinutugtog at pinapakingan ng mga kapatid nating rakista ay di naman talaga nagle lead ng deep and true relationship with the Lord, but just enhancing their emotions and devotions to Christian rock music. Pansin lang kasi ng marami e yung ibang mga Christian Rock music di naman malinaw ang lyrics ng kanta, yung iba nga e parang puro sigaw na lang.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: uncle_itlog on August 27, 2013, 12:27:10 AM
What I think is that Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music or even the CCMA are hypocritical. I also don't buy the "para makapag-convert ng mga rakista at metalheads" alibi. My opinion is that it's all about money (because it's show business) and self-elation. I don't mean to offend anyone, opinion ko lang po ang lahat.
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Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on August 27, 2013, 01:33:33 AM
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: kulitdavao on August 27, 2013, 08:47:15 AM
Di natin kaya hatulan at makikita ang laman ng puso. Rakista nga pero worshiper naman. Hillsong nga ang tugtugan pero pasikat at sarili ang tinataas.
May magandang story sa Bible
Luke 18:9-14
The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: Jhoseph on August 28, 2013, 02:28:15 AM
Many psychologist believes that (many - not all) metal and rock music induces hates, depressions, discontent and many other negative attitudes & characters. Early rock/metal music has backward meanings (discover it using backward masking) that plunge into the subliminal minds of the listener.
but Of course, this topic will never produce and proclaim any winner from either side. Parang kwentong barbero ito about "alin ang nauna, itlog o manok?"
Both sides has a good point of view but at the same time, had a loopholes in it.. there goes the dilemna.
ex: To evangelize the rakista.. you must become a rakista too. (wait sabi ng mga pilosopo: ibig bang sabihin, para ma-evangelize ang mga prostitute, you should become a prostitute too? to evangelize the killers, should we must be a killer too?)
Some said: E di ba nga si Kristo, para mailigtas nya ang mga tao naging tao din sya? At para ma-evangelize nya ang mga sinners, prostitutes at tax collectors e nakisalamuha siya sa mga ito? -- Aba, 100% tama nga naman. Pero teka, as we follow the story, Jesus never became a tax-collector nor committed a sin and did not hire a prostitute. Instead, the tax-collector has chaged. (Mary Magdalene quit being a prosti.) --- there was a CHANGe that happened.
Everybody is entitled to experience this genre whether we like it or not. God is patient and understanding. Having said so, there may have a small percentage of TRUTH na may mga Christian Rock music na naging instrumento para ma-convert ang isang tao and may continue to follow and practice Christian rock musics within a period of his/her life, but eventually, gradually and slowly his passion for rock music will cease and SHOULD cease.
Why?
- Like a caterpillar that encased itself into a cocoon, sooner or later, it will morph. As a creature that turned into a beautiful butterfly, once it looks back to its former life it should see and realize how ugly it is being a 'kadiring uod'
The Bible itself gives us the clue: Romans 12:2 "Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.(NIV)"
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on August 28, 2013, 02:51:08 AM
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Post by: rednas on August 28, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
Eto ang masasabi ni Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins) sa Christian Rock:
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: ron_rd57 on August 29, 2013, 03:25:31 AM
haii nako ang daming mga legalistic na kristyano... may nilagay ba sa bible patungkol sa secular music at sa Godly music? wala naman dba? there are a lot of things na dapat pg focusan ng mga mananampalataya, tinutuon pa nila ung wala naman sa Bible.. saka Christian rock, dba mas okay na un kesa sa mga cnasabi nyo na secular music...tsk tsk...
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Post by: RedWinG on August 29, 2013, 07:24:49 AM
asus, tagal tagal ko na nakikinig sa Led Zep, Nirvana, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, kahit Black Metal pa pinapakinggan ko. di naman ako nagkakaproblema i-reconcile pagiging Christian ko at music na hilig ko.
different folks, different strokes.
I play their music but i don't have to live their lives...
Alien????
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Post by: dtmateo on August 29, 2013, 07:56:26 AM
I play mostly pop, hard rock and heavy metal in one of my bands but I also have another band and we play original Christian songs.
I feel that hard rock and Christian lyrics don't mix well. When I listen to Christian rock bands I tend to just completely ignore the lyrics and just listen to the melody. It's like putting onion into ice cream.
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Post by: ozborne on August 31, 2013, 01:10:54 AM
kunting idea lang. yun rock and roll eh galing din sa gospel music at blues at iba ibang influences. si elvis din ay dating gospel singer bago naging king of rock n roll. pero ngayon baligtad yun heavy metal ay naging Christian metal. Ang masasabi ko lang ok lang siguro yan sa mga bata pa dumaan naman tayo sa ganyang stage ng pagiging rockers pero sa pag mature ng ating age gayun din sa taste ng music nag iba din. kaya dyan nagkaiba ng pananaw ... :-)
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: AkoSiOann on September 13, 2013, 02:51:09 PM
"What do I think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?" okay lang. hehehe :-D At the end it's always about the heart and the motive naman eh. Gaya nga ng sinabi ng kilala kong youth pastor: "Ang tanong, anong genre ba ng music ang nakakalugod sa Diyos?" :)
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Post by: washburny on September 16, 2013, 01:04:57 PM
Note: my sharing is intended only for brethren in faith. Not for consumption sa iba ang faith. Kasi baka maging preachy ang dating... intention ko eh encourage lang to dig deeper sa point of viw ko atbaka tama or mali. Berean mode is encouraged :)
Yung metal ang harcore is not for me. Yung rock depende if anu purpose ko gagamitin. If to give honor and reverence to the Everlasting Father, eh hindi ko gagamitin ang rock music. If for celebration, thanks giving, jubilee or may gusto ako i-reach out na group to convey a message eh pwede ko i-consider. Yung mga hillsong na may distortion at over drive ginagamit sa church na member ako dati sa Praise & Worship service. Hindi naman ako umaapela at kumontra. Nung kabataan ko kasi eh preference ko din naman yon. I sing in agreement with the congregation pero I need extra focus para di ako madala ng syncopated beat at adrenalin rush. Kasi pag nadala ako eh it's no longer about Jesus ang puwedeng maging epekto. May mga song na natural lang ang epekto nya is to stay connected and fouced. May rock lang talaga na mas nagdo-dominate yung carnal man in me na magsaya at di na magpuri in spirit and in truth. Siguro ako lang yon. Baka mas estable na yung iba sa inyo sa focus than me.
Paki check nyo nlang if nagpo-produce ng fruitfulness yung rock.metal at hardcore na may christian terms sa buhay inyo. If wala bunga na biblical eh malamang personal edification lang. Pag personal edification eh mas suitable na mag isa lang ginagawa, If for the edification of the whole body then puwede gamitin sa corporate worship. Sa tingin nyo puwede ba pang corporate worship? Palagay ko hindi ata
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Post by: kimpoy19 on October 01, 2013, 05:19:11 PM
Some people creates their own limitation. :) God needs your heart. :)
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Post by: ohgravity20 on October 30, 2013, 02:22:08 AM
Pag metal ba, dapat negative palagi, rebellious dapat? Akala ko music pinaguusapan? I think nasa creativity nalang ng artist yun, at syempre may limitations rin siguro to.
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Post by: blacksmith on October 31, 2013, 10:38:27 AM
Quote
Pag metal ba, dapat negative palagi, rebellious dapat? Akala ko music pinaguusapan? I think nasa creativity nalang ng artist yun, at syempre may limitations rin siguro to.
"Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial." Sa tingin ko dapat din natin tignan yung proseso ng pag gawa nung music (or paano at under what circumstances or influence na conceive yung music na pinapakinggan o gagamitin natin). A good question to ask is "who wrote it and who or for what purpose was it written for?", "how was this piece of music inspired?"
We should always be reminded to be mindful of what we bring as an offering. Hindi enough ang good intention lang. Kelangan maingat din tayo. Tandaan, Lucifer was once a worship leader before he fell. In my experience, eto naging helpful na guideline ko. If in doubt, DONT!
My 2 cents :D
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Post by: ohgravity20 on October 31, 2013, 02:00:16 PM
"Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial." Sa tingin ko dapat din natin tignan yung proseso ng pag gawa nung music (or paano at under what circumstances or influence na conceive yung music na pinapakinggan o gagamitin natin). A good question to ask is "who wrote it and who or for what purpose was it written for?", "how was this piece of music inspired?"
We should always be reminded to be mindful of what we bring as an offering. Hindi enough ang good intention lang. Kelangan maingat din tayo. Tandaan, Lucifer was once a worship leader before he fell. In my experience, eto naging helpful na guideline ko. If in doubt, DONT!
My 2 cents :D
Ganda ng point mo sir. Ako as long tolerable like walang gaanong screams okay pa naman. Pero hindi talaga ako nakikinig ng ganun music. Parang ang hirap magworship sa ganung mga kanta e.
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Post by: mokongjin on November 07, 2013, 09:38:08 PM
Sakin Kasi inaaya akong maging guitar player sa Church sa Every Nation ng kapit bahay namin, wether lead guitar or rhythm. Ok lang naman ang tugtugan pero di ako sumama kasi di ko trip eh. Christian music is always great pero as a musician di un ung paraan ko para sa panata sa diyos kaya ako tumanggi. heheheehe
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Post by: klaide92 on March 06, 2014, 08:13:12 PM
For me, nasa PUSO lang yan at motibo. Period. ^-^
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Post by: prayman on March 06, 2014, 11:28:13 PM
I like christian rock bands like decyferdown, skillet, seventhdayslumber etc.. mas ok pakinggan kasi atleast positive lyrics at siyempre mahuhusay din talga tugtugan... pero i realized yung ganito type ng music may pinipili din tlaga venue, crowd at culture, yung kinicreate na ambience nito hindi bagay lalo na sa church..mas bagay mga jazz, ballads, country etc.. pero i still love rock music and i'm a christian! peace :-D
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Post by: nixxsantos@AGOH on March 07, 2014, 11:57:06 AM
they were called CROSSROAD MUSICS according to a pastor na kakilala ko. They were which of those musics na ME KAHATI ANG LORD SA GLORY. Nakipagtalo din sakin ang isa kong brother in Christ because mahilig sya dito. Dhil nga it takes heart daw as a worship para makabuo ng ganung kahihirap na piece. "BUT" the Bible says, "WAGAS NA PAG IBIG AND NAIS KO, HINDI ANG HANDOG" This opinion came from a pastor na nagbabanda din. Wala namang masama daw minsan, pero piliin pa din daw natin ang tutugtugin. Wanna share you this REAL STORY OF MINE, that the Lord had allowed me to know in SPIRIT:
Because i have saved to my playlist a hardcore type one sa aking Cellphone nung nakaraan, just because of the song message. And nakatulugan ko ung mp3 ko na tumutugtog pa din pala. nasa dulo sya ng playlist ko. and bigla akong nagsing 4am ng madaling araw sa part na song na iyon. and ang sakit sa tenga, di ko kinaya kaya pinatay ko, kasabay pa kasi nun ay nagtatahulan lahat ng aso sa paligid ng bahay namin, and maraming mga pusang nagngangalit ang noise sa bubungan sa tapat ko.bigla akong nagtoungues nun at nagatog naginig buong katawan ko. dahil i discerned an evil manifestation that time. So its another warfare i thought that time. and so i prayed and worship, and rebuke the spirit na umatake skin nun. after nung irebuke ko, BIGLANG TUMAHIMIK. nawala lahat ng ingay.
after 2days, i called and ask a pastor na kasama namin sa banda kung bakit ganun ang nagyare. so he explained the things as I have shared above. and i deleted those songs to my playlist now.
I pray in Jesus name, that He would allow His grace to reach you, and give you the discernment in this aspect. God bless us indeed!
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: nixxsantos@AGOH on March 07, 2014, 12:00:35 PM
they were called CROSSROAD MUSICS according to a pastor na kakilala ko. They were which of those musics na ME KAHATI ANG LORD SA GLORY. Nakipagtalo din sakin ang isa kong brother in Christ because mahilig sya dito. Dhil nga it takes heart daw as a worship para makabuo ng ganung kahihirap na piece. "BUT" the Bible says, "WAGAS NA PAG IBIG AND NAIS KO, HINDI ANG HANDOG" This opinion came from a pastor na nagbabanda din. Wala namang masama daw minsan, pero piliin pa din daw natin ang tutugtugin. Wanna share you this REAL STORY OF MINE, that the Lord had allowed me to know in SPIRIT:
Because i have saved to my playlist a hardcore type one sa aking Cellphone nung nakaraan, just because of the song message. And nakatulugan ko ung mp3 ko na tumutugtog pa din pala. nasa dulo sya ng playlist ko. and bigla akong nagsing 4am ng madaling araw sa part na song na iyon. and ang sakit sa tenga, di ko kinaya kaya pinatay ko, kasabay pa kasi nun ay nagtatahulan lahat ng aso sa paligid ng bahay namin, and maraming mga pusang nagngangalit ang noise sa bubungan sa tapat ko.bigla akong nagtoungues nun at nangatog nanginig buong katawan ko. dahil i discerned an evil manifestation that time. So its another warfare i thought that time. and so i prayed and worship, and rebuke the spirit na umatake skin nun. after nung irebuke ko, BIGLANG TUMAHIMIK. nawala lahat ng ingay.
after 2days, i called and ask a pastor na kasama namin sa banda kung bakit ganun ang nagyare. so he explained the things as I have shared above. and i deleted those songs to my playlist now.
I pray in Jesus name, that He would allow His grace to reach you, and give you the discernment in this aspect. God bless us indeed!
they were called CROSSROAD MUSICS according to a pastor na kakilala ko. They were which of those musics na ME KAHATI ANG LORD SA GLORY. Nakipagtalo din sakin ang isa kong brother in Christ because mahilig sya dito. Dhil nga it takes heart daw as a worship para makabuo ng ganung kahihirap na piece. "BUT" the Bible says, "WAGAS NA PAG IBIG AND NAIS KO, HINDI ANG HANDOG" This opinion came from a pastor na nagbabanda din. Wala namang masama daw minsan, pero piliin pa din daw natin ang tutugtugin. Wanna share you this REAL STORY OF MINE, that the Lord had allowed me to know in SPIRIT:
Because i have saved to my playlist a hardcore type one sa aking Cellphone nung nakaraan, just because of the song message. And nakatulugan ko ung mp3 ko na tumutugtog pa din pala. nasa dulo sya ng playlist ko. and bigla akong nagsing 4am ng madaling araw sa part na song na iyon. and ang sakit sa tenga, di ko kinaya kaya pinatay ko, kasabay pa kasi nun ay nagtatahulan lahat ng aso sa paligid ng bahay namin, and maraming mga pusang nagngangalit ang noise sa bubungan sa tapat ko.bigla akong nagtoungues nun at nangatog nanginig buong katawan ko. dahil i discerned an evil manifestation that time. So its another warfare i thought that time. and so i prayed and worship, and rebuke the spirit na umatake skin nun. after nung irebuke ko, BIGLANG TUMAHIMIK. nawala lahat ng ingay.
after 2days, i called and ask a pastor na kasama namin sa banda kung bakit ganun ang nagyare. so he explained the things as I have shared above. and i deleted those songs to my playlist now.
I pray in Jesus name, that He would allow His grace to reach you, and give you the discernment in this aspect. God bless us indeed!
And what, if you may please, are those songs na nasa playlist mo? Thanks.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: prayman on March 10, 2014, 10:40:01 PM
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Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: prayman on March 10, 2014, 11:08:16 PM
ok lang naman siguro rock huwag lang metal at hardcore.. hindi po ako against sa ganyan genre actually yan din sir tugtugan ko dati..my point is sa culture na meron tayo sa pinas specially sa church hindi pwede mga ganyan style ng music..so para wala maoffend na kapatiran dapat may limitation na tayo pag dating sa ganyan style ng tugtugan. hehe. peace brothers! Godbless :)
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: ron_rd57 on March 10, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
wala naman kasi sa Bible yan mga sinasabi nyo na masama ang christian hardcore music., christian rock, etc.. even those Christians who criticize believers who listen to "secular" music... :eek: wala rin sa bible ung topic na un regarding secular music... bakit kaylangan nyong icriticize ang iba or ijudge sila? ang dami daming bagay dapat mas puhunan ng pansin na nsa bible... saka kasi pag sinabi nyo na mali ang christian rock or christian metal parang hinuhusgahan nyo na rin ung mga Christian musicians........ wag nyong gayahin ang mga pharisees nung time ni Jesus, stop being legalistic and narrow minded... .. :)
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: iyzburg on March 12, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Not because the Bible doesn't explicitly say "do not do this ______", does that mean it's not there. Well, dito na papasok iyung sinasabi nung ibang nag-reply na discernment, wisdom, etc.
When I 'judge' whether a music is worth listening or playing to as masama or hindi, the context is: Christ, His cross, His message, His person, His church. Why, doon ang mga basehan palagi kapag you're viewing in a Christian point of view. So when I say na this music, band, or whatnot is not ok for me, I'm not saying that the artist is bad.
Example. I am a Christian. There is this very good song I used to like, but sadly the lyrics say, "...the healing hands held back by the deepened nail, follow the God that failed." So, as a Christian, would I consider this song to be included in my repertoire nowadays? Of course not. I can say na masama siya for me, because the allusion to Christ is, for my judgement, an injustice to Him.
Example 2. I am a Christian. A 'Christian Artist' makes a song, but it's lyrics say what many Christians will deem heretic. Ito iyung problem ng CCM today as complained by many Christians. There are artists who market themselves as Christian, but are in fact what many Christians will again say as unconverted, has faulty theology, etc. Take note, they do not lightly label someone as such, but base their 'judgement' on many things like, the artist's lifestyle, his lyrics, etc. Take a look at Brian "Head" Welch. He made ripples when he announced he became a Christian. But many now doubt his testimony, because of the same thing I mentioned: his lifestyle, his friends, his lyrics, etc. So, if I see a song that for me is contradictory to any of those mentioned Christ-centered standards, kahit Christian band gumawa, I wouldn't use it sunday service lineup.
So iyung counter-charges like: - judging things like this, is Pharisaical legalism, bigotry, and narrow mindedness - the apparent quack labeling of music/ventures as secular or otherwise - and all that call the Christian preferences for purity as unreasonable
are just from those who misunderstand that we are looking at all these in a Christian worldview. As much as someone can call any music as acceptable because it charges him/her emotionally while discounting many other music as boring, that person also is also judging with his/her own worldview. As for Christians, for example basing from some of the replies to this post, are looking at music that is useful in a Church environment. Others, iba naman.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: ron_rd57 on March 13, 2014, 12:32:46 AM
Not because the Bible doesn't explicitly say "do not do this ______", does that mean it's not there. Well, dito na papasok iyung sinasabi nung ibang nag-reply na discernment, wisdom, etc.
When I 'judge' whether a music is worth listening or playing to as masama or hindi, the context is: Christ, His cross, His message, His person, His church. Why, doon ang mga basehan palagi kapag you're viewing in a Christian point of view. So when I say na this music, band, or whatnot is not ok for me, I'm not saying that the artist is bad.
Example. I am a Christian. There is this very good song I used to like, but sadly the lyrics say, "...the healing hands held back by the deepened nail, follow the God that failed." So, as a Christian, would I consider this song to be included in my repertoire nowadays? Of course not. I can say na masama siya for me, because the allusion to Christ is, for my judgement, an injustice to Him.
Example 2. I am a Christian. A 'Christian Artist' makes a song, but it's lyrics say what many Christians will deem heretic. Ito iyung problem ng CCM today as complained by many Christians. There are artists who market themselves as Christian, but are in fact what many Christians will again say as unconverted, has faulty theology, etc. Take note, they do not lightly label someone as such, but base their 'judgement' on many things like, the artist's lifestyle, his lyrics, etc. Take a look at Brian "Head" Welch. He made ripples when he announced he became a Christian. But many now doubt his testimony, because of the same thing I mentioned: his lifestyle, his friends, his lyrics, etc. So, if I see a song that for me is contradictory to any of those mentioned Christ-centered standards, kahit Christian band gumawa, I wouldn't use it sunday service lineup.
So iyung counter-charges like: - judging things like this, is Pharisaical legalism, bigotry, and narrow mindedness - the apparent quack labeling of music/ventures as secular or otherwise - and all that call the Christian preferences for purity as unreasonable
are just from those who misunderstand that we are looking at all these in a Christian worldview. As much as someone can call any music as acceptable because it charges him/her emotionally while discounting many other music as boring, that person also is also judging with his/her own worldview. As for Christians, for example basing from some of the replies to this post, are looking at music that is useful in a Church environment. Others, iba naman.
of course you won't use metal and rock music kahit na christian rock pa yan for sunday service.... :lol: :lol: :lol: the issue here is whether its wrong or not... :) saka that the word of God the Bible itself ay kumpleto na, raising up issues like secular music or types of music, just makes some young Christians confuse.. a lot of issues like drinking wine and beer,sexual perversion, etc is in the Bible, while taking drugs, smoking, etc..is also in the bible in the context na (1corinthians6:17-20) "our body is the temple of the holy spirit" so we should take care of our bodies and live healthy, and also in the context of "genesis 1:28" man's ultimate purpose to dominate the earth for God..so we should dominate the earth and everything on it and not let the earth dominate us..but sad thing is that man is dominated by a lot of different like drugs that came from plants... at madami pang mga issue ang nasa Bible na nacocompromise na ng mga Christians... pero what about music? its a minor issue, i don't think meron issue in the context of secular music or genre of music, na makikita kayo...
yup that's right we should always follow the guidance of the holy spirt, God gave us the gift of discernment... pero we should know that the legalistic and dogmatic kind of attitude is what Christ opposed in His time.. learn to live a life of balance, not compromising and not being legalistic... :)
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: jolam1431 on March 13, 2014, 11:07:50 AM
I was not able to back read so I dont exactly knew what our fellow brothers had contributed.
But I guess, i will always boils down to this, what would Jesus do if He were in our shoes? If its a Christian music with lyrics that are theologically sound and not promoting a different gospel other than what the apostles teach, I believe it's ok but then a again the genre should always be considered based on any given situation.
If you are worshiping with the old generations, metal and hardrock will not minister to them. If its mostly young people then go if it would help them focus their hearts and minds to God and not to you... As some of our brothers who have already pointed out, we should always exercise discernment in this area... Let us be careful that the focus is always be to God. Baka sa kalaunan ang music na ang winoworship natin at hindi na ang Diyos natin. Servant hood will also play a vital role in this area, a faithful servant always look for ways how to please his master. So the question is, who are we pleasing in doing these things, our Master, the people or ourselves? Also, if what we are doing is not actually meeting the spiritual need of the crowd, then I guess we have to rethink and pray for the leading of the Holy Spirit. Baka pagkatapos ng event all we hear from the people is, "ang galing ng banda, ang galing ng tugtugan" instead of "I really felt the presence of God and clearly understand the message that is really meant for me," then tayo at ang music na ang focus ng mga tao at hindi na si Lord.
As for the secular music, again we should be careful in our choice kasi there are songs which seem to us as harmless but subtlety promotes, sexual promiscuity, rebellion, illicit affairs/adultery, drugs, and other form of ungodliness pero hindi naman lahat... There are times that we cannot really control the situation and were forced to listen to these songs when it will be played in the environment where we are in, like restaurants, jeepneys, etc... but listening and singing these songs are two different things.... Coz' singing them is already tantamount to confessing and agreeing with the idea that the composer/artist wants to project. So doon ang danger noon, its not about being judgmental but being careful and discerning always acting and living on the things that will bring glory and honor to our God....
Mensan kasi nadadala tayo ng mga secular music kasi very appealing yung song in terms of melody, tempo at magagaling yung mga artists. When you listen to the guitar and bass lines the best talaga. But then again, we have to consider the lyrics and its message.
Just my 2 cents...
God bless
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: ejecruz on March 13, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Well for me, it should be simple as "if the artist, music and lyrics glorifies God" then it's OK.. sabi nga sa Matthew 12:30 “Whoever is not with me is against me". So it's our job to research for the artist's life.. the lyrics bago natin pakingan nang pakingan ang isang kanta.. kasi sabi nga sa science, ang human brain is naka-prewire sa music.. para daw tong sponge sa music na absorb lang nang absorb.. so dapat maging mapili talaga tayu sa music na pakikingan natin dahil kaya nitong ibahin kung pano tayu mag-isip.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: nixxsantos@AGOH on March 14, 2014, 03:04:35 PM
And what, if you may please, are those songs na nasa playlist mo? Thanks.
Pillars..Skillet... but i just share this to not prove something. its just a sharing guys. so don't take it personally. God doesn't please @ arguments that causes divisions and hurts.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: ron_rd57 on March 15, 2014, 08:45:53 PM
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: dencious on March 19, 2014, 09:01:07 PM
Pinagpalang araw po sa lahat,
Makikibahagi lang po ng kaalaman batay sa usaping ito.
As a Christian Musician diba po we are the guide of the congregation and we guide them and bring them to the pressence of the Lord. if thats the case should we sing or play a song that the people can understand and feel every lyrics of the song? but pano po maiinitindihan ng tao kung ang kantang kinakanta ay pasigaw or puro ingay?
Naniniwala po akong alam ng Panginoon kung ano ang nangingibabaw na mutibo sa ating puso sa pag awit man o sa pag-gawa ng mga kantang ito.
ito ay aking pananaw lang po.
salamat po at God bless sa lahat.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: ambagel on May 03, 2014, 01:33:19 PM
:) Pray that in every music you won't fall into a temptation.... in every thing Satan can use or handle you... so be aware... but God is powerful to manage especially pag siya talaga ang sentro ng music..
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: Garner on May 27, 2014, 06:03:34 AM
What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
IMHO, branding lang siya. ROCK MUSIC - ganito lang dapat. But when you add "Christian" to it (Christian Rock), Christians (believers) who don't usually listen to rock music would actually have the "interest" to listen to it. I listen to different types of music but there are some people who don't. This is an opportunity/chance for them "Christian Rock bands" / Producers to expand their market. Dito sa Pinas, wala ako alam na ganito pero maraming artists/musicians na Christians like Barbie and Quest pero hindi sila Christian rock and Christian Hiphop :-D
Nasa atin pa din kung ano at sino ang dapat natin pakinggan at suportahan. "The devil can't read your mind" so he would throw almost anything at you just to deceive you. Basta para saken most important thing is always guard our hearts, minsan sobrang ganda ng kanta at sobrang galing ng artist pero the way they live their lives doesn't seem to advance God's kingdom (you know what I mean). Sabi nga ni BlackSmith, be mindful.
1 Corinthians 10:32 (NIV) Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God—
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: darkcheddar on September 25, 2014, 12:21:26 AM
I like christian rock bands like decyferdown, skillet, seventhdayslumber etc.. mas ok pakinggan kasi atleast positive lyrics at siyempre mahuhusay din talga tugtugan... pero i realized yung ganito type ng music may pinipili din tlaga venue, crowd at culture, yung kinicreate na ambience nito hindi bagay lalo na sa church..mas bagay mga jazz, ballads, country etc.. pero i still love rock music and i'm a christian! peace :-D
I agree :) As long as positive ang lyrics, ok yun kahit gaano kabigat. Pero hindi talaga sila pwede sa church :D
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: lawliet on September 29, 2014, 06:35:56 PM
Yep di bagay sa Worship Service ang heavy music.
Sa secular I like The Faceless, After the Burial, Sepultura, Pantera, Metallica, Dying Fetus, Opeth... (Yes I delete the ones with lyrics not acceptable in my playlists.)
Christian Bands: Living Sacrifice... only. Lol kelangan ko maghanap ng iba, parang di ko type kasi mga Demon Hunter etc.
Title: Re: What do you think of Christian Rock / Metal / Hardcore Music?
Post by: Zacchary_amadeus on June 03, 2015, 07:57:39 PM
I listen to stryoer and deliverance and demon hunter