Author Topic: I officially declare Zoom as the king of cheese (Read 20475 times)

skunkyfunk · « **on:** April 03, 2008, 03:48:53 PM »

I've given up. These things really worsen the signal chain. You have a glorious sound coming from your guitar directly to your amp, and once you start putting any Zoom product between the guitar and amp, the signal degrades so badly, that you can start hearing 10111111010101010101001 10111111010101010101001 1111111010101010101001 101111110101010101111101 quality in your signal. Mics cannot lie. Presence and organic-ness is lost instantly.

I have yet to see Zoom come up with something like a TC Electronics product.

sweeplikevai · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:34:42 PM »

sorry for the noob question.. pero sir whats 10111111010101010101001 10111111010101010101001 1111111010101010101001 101111110101010101111101 quality in your signal.?

fraudulentzodiac · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:37:07 PM »

Quote from: sweeplikevai on April 03, 2008, 04:34:42 PM

sorry for the noob question.. pero sir whats 10111111010101010101001 10111111010101010101001 1111111010101010101001 101111110101010101111101 quality in your signal.?

digital.

nathanmanansala · « **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:45:29 PM »

ultra. fuzz.
power. drive.

nuff said.

tito rens · « **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:49:22 PM »

Personally I find the delay of zoom products (I used to have a 1010, then 2020, and lastly a 707) above average. Its not the greatest digital delay in the market... but it doesn't suck!

Just my humble opinion.

sweeplikevai · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:53:45 PM »

Quote from: fraudulentzodiac on April 03, 2008, 04:37:07 PM

digital.

i see,, k lang yun, my g2 works fine with me, as of now..

Poundcake · « **Reply #6 on:** April 03, 2008, 04:55:06 PM »

I used Zoom for 8 years (505 and GFX-4). The GFX-4 was very fun to use and I got some good tones out of it. Pero kung papakinggan ko na ngayon, di na as good yung maririnig ko. Hehehe

Bel Sayson · « **Reply #7 on:** April 03, 2008, 05:03:10 PM »

Years back, I used to own entry level Zooms 1010, 2020, and other supposed improved models. Since I was a struggling musician then, I really didnt have enough options. But when I got enough dough to buy numerous Boss pedals and other boutique effects, I promised myself not to buy a Zoom again. Until the new G7 and G9 arrived...

They are okay. I still mix them up with other stomp boxes but basically they perform what I need to have in live settings. Bars in the Philippines have so little space to accommodate a bedspace filled of effect pedals so I really do not need to go rockstar and bring them all...

tito rens · « **Reply #8 on:** April 03, 2008, 05:07:03 PM »

Quote from: Bel Sayson on April 03, 2008, 05:03:10 PM

Years back, I used to own entry level Zooms 1010, 2020, and other supposed improved models. Since I was a struggling musician then, I really didnt have enough options. But when I got enough dough to buy numerous Boss pedals and other boutique effects, I promised myself not to buy a Zoom again. Until the new G7 and G9 arrived...

They are okay. I still mix them up with other stomp boxes but basically they perform what I need to have in live settings. Bars in the Philippines have so little space to accommodate a bedspace filled of effect pedals so I really do not need to go rockstar and bring them all...

Hi sir, I've heard about the G7s and G9s but I haven't had the time to test them. Are they really that big an improvement compared to the previous GFX series? In what ways/fields have they improved?

chito_eoi · « **Reply #9 on:** April 03, 2008, 05:11:27 PM »

compared to other multi effects prices in the market, ZOOM products are much cheaper!
parang budget meal yung zoom

i used to own a
Zoom 4040 = Panalo! My 1st Multi effect, traded for an AX1500G kase mas matapang yung tunog ng dist ng korg
505II = got this after i dispose all of my gears kase di na uso yung banda

G2.1U = my 1st aqcuisition here at Philmusic (tnx zasam!), I hate the dirt sound!, pero panalo yung mga modulations nya. 1 week lang sakin.

maselan lang yung tenga mo dodgie

, pero for an average musician like me... panalo pa rin yung mga Zoom Products!

chadrobles · « **Reply #10 on:** April 03, 2008, 05:11:41 PM »

i still recall the "look who's zooming?" ad back then..was still in high school

well, i have nothing against zoom, never had the chance to own one.

BAMF · « **Reply #11 on:** April 03, 2008, 05:29:08 PM »

Quote from: skunkyfunk on April 03, 2008, 03:48:53 PM

I've given up. These things really worsen the signal chain. You have a glorious sound coming from your guitar directly to your amp, and once you start putting any Zoom product between the guitar and amp, the signal degrades so badly, that you can start hearing 10111111010101010101001 10111111010101010101001 1111111010101010101001 101111110101010101111101 quality in your signal. Mics cannot lie. Presence and organic-ness is lost instantly.

I have yet to see Zoom come up with something like a TC Electronics product.

You haven't heard mine

. Okay okay hahaha. Tama na yabang

Punta ka na lang sa April 26 EB, then wait for the band Codename Adobo. Their lead guitarist will be using a Zoom G2 na me kalikot ko na. Hear for yourself na lang.

sweeplikevai · « **Reply #12 on:** April 03, 2008, 05:42:31 PM »

Quote from: BAMF on April 03, 2008, 05:29:08 PM

You haven't heard mine . Okay okay hahaha. Tama na yabang

Punta ka na lang sa April 26 EB, then wait for the band Codename Adobo. Their lead guitarist will be using a Zoom G2 na me kalikot ko na. Hear for yourself na lang.

ayus... may paraan pa pala..

markv · « **Reply #13 on:** April 03, 2008, 05:57:28 PM »

noong high school ako uso ang 'pahabaan ng multi-effects' akala mo keyboard ang dala..

pings15 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 03, 2008, 06:17:44 PM »

di naman siguro, cguro may ilang factors din..

tweaking, amp, player..

i watched a small gig lang dito sa amin, forgot the band name, i noticed wow good tone buong buo,.. tpos when i get a little closer nakanamp**a naka G9 pala..

pero may ilan rin ako narinig na guitarist na naka G9 pero sheeeeet yung tunog..

oloc · « **Reply #15 on:** April 03, 2008, 06:21:56 PM »

AFAIK, Francis Reyes uses a Zoom... i would say he doesnt sound 100101010101000110100 at all...

sidangelo · « **Reply #16 on:** April 03, 2008, 06:26:25 PM »

Quote from: oloc on April 03, 2008, 06:21:56 PM

AFAIK, Francis Reyes uses a Zoom... i would say he doesnt sound 100101010101000110100 at all...

hahaha!

fretburner · « **Reply #17 on:** April 03, 2008, 06:30:50 PM »

Steve Vai uses a Zoom. Yes, he's got a very processed sound, but still pretty good.

Some people swear by their G9's. And I've heard my bro's G7, and it's pretty decent for high gain stuff, and I'm sure I can get good tones from it if I can tweak it.

markitut · « **Reply #18 on:** April 03, 2008, 07:00:06 PM »

haha.. tunog binaries ba?
ako rin nagkaroon rin ako ng gfx5..
nagsisisi ako nun bat binili ko yun..
mahal kasi eh.. sana ng g2 nalang ako..

badongrodrigs · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2008, 07:10:16 PM »

im sure the threadstarter was talking about RECORDING, not live.

spankyrigor · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2008, 07:33:23 PM »

oonga. anung zoom ba yan dodj? baka naman yung zoom 1010 mo na sobrang mahal mo nung college pa tayo, bumili ka pa ng expression pedal.

progressive_pilipinas · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2008, 07:38:48 PM »

5 years ago, id sell my soul for a 707. haha!

stringman · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2008, 07:50:29 PM »

Quote from: fretburner on April 03, 2008, 06:30:50 PM

Steve Vai uses a Zoom. Yes, he's got a very processed sound, but still pretty good.

Some people swear by their G9's. And I've heard my bro's G7, and it's pretty decent for high gain stuff, and I'm sure I can get good tones from it if I can tweak it.

I heard a Francis Magalona song where Perf was playing the guitar ganda nang sound parang Steve Vai yung sound. Nung nag YM kami ni Perf sabi niya he was using a GFX-8 at that time.

dullFingers · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2008, 08:16:52 PM »

Quote from: spankyrigor on April 03, 2008, 07:33:23 PM

oonga. anung zoom ba yan dodj? baka naman yung zoom 1010 mo na sobrang mahal mo nung college pa tayo, bumili ka pa ng expression pedal.

i still have my zoom 1010 with me. my very first guitar processor. so far ok naman sya for an average musician like me.

chromeknive · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2008, 08:25:14 PM »

I agree, skunky.

When recording my guitar I always take the zoom pedal out of the chain. My zoom G2 is really just my live/rehearsal "swiss knife".

The zoom takes away some sizzle and roundness from your tone.

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Author Topic: I officially declare Zoom as the king of cheese (Read 20475 times)