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LouieAzcona

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Re: ASTIG na crash?
« Reply #75 on: January 22, 2008, 01:12:44 AM »
whats a marching cymbal?

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Re: Durable Crash for Studio Rental?
« Reply #76 on: January 22, 2008, 01:52:43 AM »
bro, meron kami na-try na studio, parehong ride yung dalawang cymbals nila, siguro mas makakatipid ka kung ganun, baka kasi medyo matagalan yun bago mabungi... :-)

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Re: Durable Crash for Studio Rental?
« Reply #77 on: January 22, 2008, 03:36:26 AM »
bnew b8s... or staggs! naks! :-)
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Re: ASTIG na crash?
« Reply #78 on: January 22, 2008, 11:10:49 AM »
whats a marching cymbal?

pang marching band na cymbals..hehehehe...
gamit nung may mga torotot,lyre tapos may mga chicks na may hawak na baton! na nakakagigil,ehehehehe

back to topic,,
ok yung scimitar, kaso wala na ata nun ngayun! yung ride ko na scinitar buhay pa! 12 yrs na ata sakin yun! may konting punit na sya! pero dipa naman naaapektuhan ang tunog, naalala ko nung unang dumating yun! wala pakong cymbal stand. so diko sya magamit, so nilagay ko lang sya sa stand ng mic yung mga screw dun na pedeng pasukan ng cymbals.2 yrs ata bago ko nabilhan ng stand yun! awa ng dyos! di sya nasira.. pero yung crash.. tagal din bago nasira. mga 9 yrs..yung hi-hats ko! wala atang balak masira yun! kahit anong lakas ng palo ko! ayaw masira.

kahit ano namang cymbals lagay mo sa studio mo kung balatuba talaga mga nag jajam sau masisira talaga... kaya dapat may rules tlga. break it! you pay! ehehehe!
suggest ko lang. 2 ride gamitin! or hihats din! as a crash. para pag nasira ung isa may nakaabang na agad! tsaka makapal na hihats bilhin para! ummmmp! swabe!
ehemmm..... sikretong malufit.. sabog ang lapay mo girl! - wag kana! pweh!

LouieAzcona

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #79 on: January 22, 2008, 03:56:31 PM »
onga noh
magandang idea ung dalawang ride ang gagamitin. hindi ko naisip yan ah. maraming salamat sa mga tips kapatid!


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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #80 on: January 22, 2008, 07:03:24 PM »
oo sir I agree sa Scimitar,, I bought a drumkit worth 4k only!!(what a steal) may kasama na scimitar ride and hihats(pang 3rd na ata ako nito e), an tagal na daw nung kit at cymbals na un,, minodify ko nlng at hanggang ngayon ung SCIMITAR na hithats and ride andito parin at buong buo ni wala manlang dent kahit isa,, 4yrs na sakin eto tapos 3rd hand ko pa nabili eto,, sobrang tibay tlga ng scimitar wala na nga lang logo,, un lng dude advice lang if may avail pang scimitar un ang try mu or staggs,, that's the best way!!! :-D
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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #81 on: January 22, 2008, 07:57:36 PM »
try looking for Z's! they are zildjians. there heavy and they last long. or just get heavier cymbals. mga medium-heavy weight.

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #82 on: January 22, 2008, 10:43:04 PM »
Para sa akin kung bibili ako ng cymbals ang bibilin ko eh yung high end na. kasi mahal maintenance eh haha! kasi isipin mo kung for example lang ha:

Planet Z bibilin mo di ba tas pang-studio. gaya ng sabi nila di naglalast. so bili ka na naman ng bago niyan planet z na naman and so on. kung ganon din mangyayare edi magsesave na lang ako maigi for high end.

Suggest ko inspect mo yung sticks ng drummer kung mejo me kaskas na o madami na damage. magprovide ka na lang ng malinis na stick kasi nakaka add o mas lalaki damage pag ang ginamit na sticks eh panay kas kas na eh.

Pwede rin sabihan mo yung drummer na na pakiingatan ang gamit kasi high end ang mga toh. Pwede sila pagsabihan in a nice way haha anyway it its your property naman di ba?

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #83 on: January 22, 2008, 10:45:50 PM »
Pahabol. Magalit ka na bro haha property mo yan eh bigyan mo warning.
Yung iba nga pinapaban na sa studio eh haha! Sabihan mo ganito oh
"mukhang di na pagtugtog ginagawa niyo ah kung me balak kayo manira
ng gamit wag dito ah, pampractice mga gamit dito at hindi ito mga gamit
na dapat eh wasakin panglikha toh ng music hindi ingay!" haha!!!!
ganyan mga naririnig kong linya sa mga may aring napuno na eh haha!!!

eto pa: "sa susunod boy kung ganyan ka pa rin pumalo magdala ka na ng sarili mong cymbals ah!!" haha:))
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Re: ASTIG na crash?
« Reply #84 on: January 22, 2008, 10:50:51 PM »
pang marching band na cymbals..hehehehe...
gamit nung may mga torotot,lyre tapos may mga chicks na may hawak na baton! na nakakagigil,ehehehehe

back to topic,,
ok yung scimitar, kaso wala na ata nun ngayun! yung ride ko na scinitar buhay pa! 12 yrs na ata sakin yun! may konting punit na sya! pero dipa naman naaapektuhan ang tunog, naalala ko nung unang dumating yun! wala pakong cymbal stand. so diko sya magamit, so nilagay ko lang sya sa stand ng mic yung mga screw dun na pedeng pasukan ng cymbals.2 yrs ata bago ko nabilhan ng stand yun! awa ng dyos! di sya nasira.. pero yung crash.. tagal din bago nasira. mga 9 yrs..yung hi-hats ko! wala atang balak masira yun! kahit anong lakas ng palo ko! ayaw masira.

kahit ano namang cymbals lagay mo sa studio mo kung balatuba talaga mga nag jajam sau masisira talaga... kaya dapat may rules tlga. break it! you pay! ehehehe!
suggest ko lang. 2 ride gamitin! or hihats din! as a crash. para pag nasira ung isa may nakaabang na agad! tsaka makapal na hihats bilhin para! ummmmp! swabe!
natatandaan ko tuloy yung kasamahan ko haha. yung ride gawin daw hi hat:)) laki haha para daw matagal  yung sizzle at vibration

LouieAzcona

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #85 on: January 23, 2008, 07:21:29 AM »
mga crash ride ba sinkapal ng ride? sorry sa mga tanong ko ah, di kasi ako drummer eh

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #86 on: January 23, 2008, 12:50:51 PM »
di ata.. alam ko medyo manipis yung mga yun.
magandang idea yang 2 ride gamitin! kaso siempre. pag medyo marurunong na nagjajam sa studio mo. medyo maiinis yun dahil iba sa pandinig nila ang tunog ng ride as a crash! (pero sakin oks lang! mapapractice pa left hand ko mag bell sa left side ride! ehehehe) palitan mo na lang ng crash tlga kung alam mong marunong magjajam sa studio mo.

o.t ata.sowee.
sa tingin ko! sa studio dapat i testing yung "Stagg" na mga cymbals.. malaman natin ang durability. ehehehe.. sa tingin ko lang naman ha! balak ko kasi bumili! kaso, sa mahal ng mga cymbals ngayon(pwera stagg.sipsip!) siempre hindi ka bibili ng madaling masira..kaya research muna... sino dyan merong studio stagg pinapagamit na cymbals? ilang araw ? este ilang buwan inabot? ehehehehe! joke lang! amen!
ehemmm..... sikretong malufit.. sabog ang lapay mo girl! - wag kana! pweh!

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #87 on: January 23, 2008, 01:14:45 PM »
Good idea sir, sa mga music studio owners na stagg cymbals ang gamit, we would like to hear from you!

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2008, 03:10:14 PM »
Mukhang walang gustong sumubok. eehehehe! joke
ehemmm..... sikretong malufit.. sabog ang lapay mo girl! - wag kana! pweh!

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2008, 04:39:11 PM »
naka stagg na yung red damien rehearsal studio. dh tska sh crashes..3 months na sa kanila oks pa rin..
alvin.

LouieAzcona

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #90 on: January 26, 2008, 07:50:26 PM »
waaah namimis ko na red damien. yun na siguro ang hari ng mga rehearsal studios!

may natry na akong stagg. sobrang nipis, kahapon naman, may nagdala ng stagg dito sa studio, makapal. hindi ko nga lang natanong kung magkano ang brand new. pero mukang matibay xa eh. pag hinawakan mo, para kang humawak ng B8.

are there other factors that make cymbals durable aside from thickness?

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2008, 10:12:34 AM »


yes man. b20 bronze cymbals are more durable than b8's.

and cast cymbals are wayyyyyy more durable than sheet cymbals.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #92 on: January 28, 2008, 03:46:07 PM »
kung pang rehearsal studio...check mo yung mga cymbals na pang metal or rock...basta pang heavy playing  :-) mas makapal yun
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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2008, 03:50:13 PM »
kung pang rehearsal studio...check mo yung mga cymbals na pang metal or rock...basta pang heavy playing  :-) mas makapal yun


specifically, anong pangalan ng mga cymbals na yan?

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #94 on: January 29, 2008, 11:26:56 AM »
check out the myra cymbals of stagg.. :wink:

btw to the studio owners or gusto magtayo ng studio, lifespan of a cymbals is diffrent when used personally and for studio use, of course mas matagal buhay ng personal use..no matter what brand it is :wink:
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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #95 on: January 29, 2008, 01:45:14 PM »
check out the myra cymbals of stagg.. :wink:

btw to the studio owners or gusto magtayo ng studio, lifespan of a cymbals is diffrent when used personally and for studio use, of course mas matagal buhay ng personal use..no matter what brand it is :wink:

narealize ko nga yan. kung pwede lang na takip ng kaldero ang gagamitin, yun talaga ang ilalagay ko.

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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #96 on: February 20, 2008, 10:07:08 PM »
Sa mga studio owners, tip ko lang, Try to put 2 crash cymbals like a 16 and an 18 inches crash so that the drummers can have option to hit both cymbals thus not punishing 1 crash cymbal to death. I have 2 crashes in my Studio so far so good wala pang yupi. 1 is a B8 16" (rock crash) and the other is PST5 18" (Med-Thin crash).

delikado jan yung pst5. for me, hindi rin masyadong effective yan kasi some drummers are used to hit 2 or more crashes.. :-) pero ok yan na di pa rin nasisira.. :-)
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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #97 on: February 22, 2008, 07:38:03 AM »
para sakin paiste rude medium heavy or heavy, z custom medium heavy or heavy, kung merong ganun heheh tapos 18". medyo mahal pero  siguro naman hindi ma stress yung may ari ng studio kakapalit ng cymbals.

wala pa yatang available na heavy cymbals satin, suportahan na lang natin pag may nagpadating na.  :-D


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Re: Cymbals for studios
« Reply #98 on: February 23, 2008, 10:18:33 PM »
are there other factors that make cymbals durable aside from thickness?

actually usage/technique talaga ang primary determining factor sa cymbal durability. thickness does not necessarily mean more durable, as a thicker cymbal is also more rigid and stiff, meaning that the cymbal cannot flex with the impact of a hit and thus is more prone to breakage. parang halaman lang yan. yung cogon (ie thin cymbal), kala mo pipitsugin, kaso kung malakas yung hangin (ie malakas ang palo) eh di makikisabay lang siya sa ihip ng hangin na yun. kaso yung puno (ie thick cymbal), kala mo ang tibay, kaso kung malaks yung hangin baka tumumba (magcrack na lang bigla)... pwera lang kung sablay talaga pumalo yung gumagamit, in which case wala talagang laban ang cymbal.

at dahil sablay nga pumalo ang mga madalas gumamit sa studio, at dahil din na crash talaga ang #1 problem ng mga drumset sa mga studio... well, tama si warner (sinabi na niya ito either dito o sa iba pang thread): ride ang dapat isalang na crash. ang isang madalas ma-overlook kasi eh yung taper ng cymbal. ang crash kasi, panipis nang panipis mula bell hanggang umabot sa edge. ang ride/hihat naman, onti lang ang ninipis ng edge sa bell. kaya kung tignan mo ang 20" medium ride tsaka 20" medium crash, mas makapal ang edge nung ride kahit pareho silang medium. kaya kahit hindi sila super kapal (at dahil dun, hindi rin sobrang stiff), mas matibay ang mga medium thin hanggang medium na ride bilang crash, kesa sa mga crash talaga. kaya nakakainis din mga studio na WALANG ride kaso madami crash, tapos lahat naman punit.

kaya yun. dalawang ride (isang 18" tsaka isang 20" siguro, o kahit dalawang 20" na magkaiba ang kapal) tapos hats (syempre), solb na yun. so what kung hindi swabe yung crash sound... eh barag din naman yung mga papalo eh.

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Re: Recommended cymbals for rehearsal studios
« Reply #99 on: March 02, 2008, 09:36:58 AM »
well use Z customs... or better yet the original zildjian "Z" if they are still available... definitley won't break.. why? they are cast and DUH!!?? so F%$kin THICK!!!!! :evil: